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Re: [Jabref-users] Groups using not possible
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From: Haines B. <ha...@hi...> - 2016-06-12 17:23:49
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On Sun, Jun 12, 2016 at 04:31:54PM +0200, Tob...@gm... wrote: > Dear Haines, > > I'm sorry for the problems you have with the way Jabref handles groups > in the new version. Let me explain what happened: Previously, the > group membership was stored at the end of the file in one of these > Jabref comments. This behaviour had some disadvantages, so we changed > it. Now Jabref rembers the group information in the bibtex entry > itself (BibEntry). So your entries now have a groups field (have a > look at the bibtex source), where the names of the static groups are > saved. > > Because only the names of the groups are stored in this new field, > JabRef can no longer differentiate between groups with the same > name. This might be a bit inconvienent, but you can fix it easily by > giving the groups different names and then manually correcting the > assignments. > > I hope this helps for now. If you still experience problems, please > post them on github. https://github.com/JabRef/jabref/issues Best, > Tobias Thanks, Tobias, that was a big help. The only problem I have is that when I change the name of a group and associate an entry to it, the other groups with same name are highlighted. When I try to remove these others from being associated with the entry, the original association is also lost. I'll bring this up in github. Haines Brown > > -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht----- > Gesendet: Sunday, 12 June 2016 um 15:45:13 Uhr > Von: jab...@li... > An: jab...@li... > Betreff: Jabref-users Digest, Vol 115, Issue 2 > Send Jabref-users mailing list submissions to > jab...@li... > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/jabref-users > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > jab...@li... > > You can reach the person managing the list at > jab...@li... > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of Jabref-users digest..." > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Re: Groups using not possible (Bernhard Kleine) > 2. Re: Groups using not possible (Bernhard Kleine) > 3. Re: Groups using not possible (Haines Brown) > 4. Re: Groups using not possible (Bernhard Kleine) > 5. Re: Groups using not possible (Haines Brown) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Sun, 12 Jun 2016 11:44:07 +0200 > From: Bernhard Kleine <ber...@gm...> > Subject: Re: [Jabref-users] Groups using not possible > To: jab...@li... > Message-ID: <4c3...@gm...> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="windows-1252" > > Am 10.06.2016 um 07:13 schrieb Bernhard Kleine: > > > I started using groups with the previous jabref version. I have some > > 1300 bibentries and groups are as large as 140 or as small as 3 entries. > > > > When I want to display groups, however, I tried en vain to see the > > selected entries, mostly jabref adds the entry selected to a groups when > > clicking on a group. This is not the behaviour I am used to. How to > > display a group and not add or delete entries from group without the > > risk to do the wrong? It is not obvious. > > > > Bernhard > I looked in detail: I had selected a group of 13 entries. I added the > pdf location of one of this papers to jabref in the "allgemein > (General?)" dialogue of the edit article form. When I finished adding > the pdf location, the selection of the 13 papers in the group got lost. > Clicking on the group in the Group form did not bring up the selection > again, but deleted the selected entry from the group. Re-clicking added > it again, but still the selection was gone. I do not find a simple way > to select a group when a paper is selected in that group. > > Bernhard > > spitzhalde9 > > 79853 lenzkirch > > ber...@gm... > > www.b-kleine.com, www.urseetal.net > > - > > thunderbird mit enigmail > > GPG schl?ssel: D5257409 > > fingerprint: > > 08 B7 F8 70 22 7A FC C1 15 49 CA A6 C7 6F A0 2E D5 25 74 09 > > -------------- next part -------------- > A non-text attachment was scrubbed... > Name: signature.asc > Type: application/pgp-signature > Size: 819 bytes > Desc: OpenPGP digital signature > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 2 > Date: Sun, 12 Jun 2016 13:05:03 +0200 > From: Bernhard Kleine <ber...@gm...> > Subject: Re: [Jabref-users] Groups using not possible > To: jab...@li... > Message-ID: <ccd...@gm...> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="windows-1252" > > Am 12.06.2016 um 11:44 schrieb Bernhard Kleine: > > Am 10.06.2016 um 07:13 schrieb Bernhard Kleine: > > > >> I started using groups with the previous jabref version. I have some > >> 1300 bibentries and groups are as large as 140 or as small as 3 entries. > >> > >> When I want to display groups, however, I tried en vain to see the > >> selected entries, mostly jabref adds the entry selected to a groups when > >> clicking on a group. This is not the behaviour I am used to. How to > >> display a group and not add or delete entries from group without the > >> risk to do the wrong? It is not obvious. > >> > >> Bernhard > > I looked in detail: I had selected a group of 13 entries. I added the > > pdf location of one of this papers to jabref in the "allgemein > > (General?)" dialogue of the edit article form. When I finished adding > > the pdf location, the selection of the 13 papers in the group got lost. > > Clicking on the group in the Group form did not bring up the selection > > again, but deleted the selected entry from the group. Re-clicking added > > it again, but still the selection was gone. I do not find a simple way > > to select a group when a paper is selected in that group. > > > > Bernhard > Unselecting "gruppenzugeh?rigkeit bearbeiten (manage entries in a > group?)" did allow me again to select groups. It is not mentioned in the > German Manual. > Bernhard > > -- > -- > spitzhalde9 > 79853 lenzkirch > ber...@gm... > www.b-kleine.com, www.urseetal.net > - > thunderbird mit enigmail > GPG schl?ssel: D5257409 > fingerprint: > 08 B7 F8 70 22 7A FC C1 15 49 CA A6 C7 6F A0 2E D5 25 74 09 > > > -------------- next part -------------- > A non-text attachment was scrubbed... > Name: signature.asc > Type: application/pgp-signature > Size: 819 bytes > Desc: OpenPGP digital signature > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 3 > Date: Sun, 12 Jun 2016 08:18:30 -0400 > From: Haines Brown <ha...@hi...> > Subject: Re: [Jabref-users] Groups using not possible > To: jab...@li... > Message-ID: <201...@en...> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii > > I've complained several times in another thread, so far no response, > that JabRef 3.4 destroyed the @Comment{jabref-meta: groupstree: section > of my .bib databases. The group tree is present, but has lost all > keywords. > > I don't see how this could have happened through my blundering. I can > recover that section from all my databases from a backup when still > running JabRef 9.10 two weeks ago. I did this with a database, but a > major problem remains. If I create a new group, it is not added to the > groupstree, but is recorded somewhere else. Also, creating a link from > an entry to a group creates a link to all groups with the same name. > > Please!!! Someone tell me what's going on. Has a new group mechanism > been created? Where is that information being stored? Was it supposed to > recover groupstree data from the .bib databases? > > I'll have to create links from entries to groups by entering the > information into the databases by hand, but I worry that JabRef 3.4 will > again destroy that information. > > Haines Brown > > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 4 > Date: Sun, 12 Jun 2016 14:22:30 +0200 > From: Bernhard Kleine <ber...@gm...> > Subject: Re: [Jabref-users] Groups using not possible > To: jab...@li... > Message-ID: <589...@gm...> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="windows-1252" > > Am 12.06.2016 um 14:18 schrieb Haines Brown: > > I've complained several times in another thread, so far no response, > > that JabRef 3.4 destroyed the @Comment{jabref-meta: groupstree: section > > of my .bib databases. The group tree is present, but has lost all > > keywords. > > > > I don't see how this could have happened through my blundering. I can > > recover that section from all my databases from a backup when still > > running JabRef 9.10 two weeks ago. I did this with a database, but a > > major problem remains. If I create a new group, it is not added to the > > groupstree, but is recorded somewhere else. Also, creating a link from > > an entry to a group creates a link to all groups with the same name. > > > > Please!!! Someone tell me what's going on. Has a new group mechanism > > been created? Where is that information being stored? Was it supposed to > > recover groupstree data from the .bib databases? > > > > I'll have to create links from entries to groups by entering the > > information into the databases by hand, but I worry that JabRef 3.4 will > > again destroy that information. > > > > Haines Brown > I know that there were changes in the group function. But I do not know > whether your problem is related. My groups at least were maintained when > I updated jabref to 3.4. > Regards > Bernhard > > -------------- next part -------------- > A non-text attachment was scrubbed... > Name: signature.asc > Type: application/pgp-signature > Size: 819 bytes > Desc: OpenPGP digital signature > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 5 > Date: Sun, 12 Jun 2016 09:45:02 -0400 > From: Haines Brown <ha...@hi...> > Subject: Re: [Jabref-users] Groups using not possible > To: jab...@li... > Message-ID: <201...@en...> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii > > On Sun, Jun 12, 2016 at 02:22:30PM +0200, Bernhard Kleine wrote: > > Am 12.06.2016 um 14:18 schrieb Haines Brown: > > > I've complained several times in another thread, so far no response, > > > that JabRef 3.4 destroyed the @Comment{jabref-meta: groupstree: section > > > of my .bib databases. The group tree is present, but has lost all > > > keywords. > > > > > > I don't see how this could have happened through my blundering. I can > > > recover that section from all my databases from a backup when still > > > running JabRef 9.10 two weeks ago. I did this with a database, but a > > > major problem remains. If I create a new group, it is not added to the > > > groupstree, but is recorded somewhere else. Also, creating a link from > > > an entry to a group creates a link to all groups with the same name. > > > > > > Please!!! Someone tell me what's going on. Has a new group mechanism > > > been created? Where is that information being stored? Was it supposed to > > > recover groupstree data from the .bib databases? > > > > > > I'll have to create links from entries to groups by entering the > > > information into the databases by hand, but I worry that JabRef 3.4 will > > > again destroy that information. > > > > > > Haines Brown > > > I know that there were changes in the group function. But I do not know > > whether your problem is related. My groups at least were maintained when > > I updated jabref to 3.4. > > Regards > > Bernhard > > I really would like to know what this new groups mechanism is. CHANGELOG > suggests that with JabRef 3.3 the data held in the jabref-meta: > groupstree: sections of bibliographic databases was transferred to > something called "BibEntry". I find it succeeded for some databases, but > not all. > > I see that JabRef now generates a host of files under > /usr/local/share/JabRef/jabref-master/... and apparently overwriting > them are user's preferences in ~/Xjabref-master/.... Unfortunately I was > unable to locate a BibEntry there. There are MSBibEntry.java files, but > these hold no specific group information. > > So my questions are: > > a) What and where is this "BibEntry"? It apparently is not the name of a > file. > > b) Was it intended that this BibEntry preserve the original groups > hierarchy? It does not seem to distinguish groups organized in > hierarchic fashion. Even where I've restored the group tree > functionality, groups with same name but situated in different places in > the tree are not distinguished. Is BibEntry just a flat file database? > > c) How could all group data be lost when I moved up from JabRef 9.10 to > JabRef 3.4? Is there something I should have done to prevent it? While I > can recover old group hierarchies data, I don't want to loose recent > additions again. > > Haines Brown > > > > ------------------------------ > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > What NetFlow Analyzer can do for you? Monitors network bandwidth and traffic > patterns at an interface-level. Reveals which users, apps, and protocols are > consuming the most bandwidth. Provides multi-vendor support for NetFlow, > J-Flow, sFlow and other flows. 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