ipodlinux-devel

[Ipodlinux-devel] gen 4

[Peter <pet...@si...>]

Hi,
     A friend of mine got an ipod for christmas and he wanted me to put 
some music in it.  Problem is, I use an old Mac OS 9 computer for 
playing mp3s, my OS X laptop has no mp3s on it and no room for them, my 
windows computer refuses to run iTunes, it just quits instantly, 
(possibly because it doesn't like my driver debugger, I need to try it 
without that loaded).  And none of my linux or BSD computers have any 
mp3s either.  It seems the only way I can put mp3s on his computer 
would be to ftp them like 10 at a time from the OS 9 to the OS X and 
then copy them from there to the ipod which is a pain in the ass and 
then if he wants to use any other computer to get songs, he can't 
because they're limited to one computer.

    I think its an ipod mini which would mean gen 4?  Its small, 20 GB, 
"MP000 Model: MP102" on the back.  The "About screen" says Version 
3.0.1 Model PE435 A, I take the "435" to mean gen 4.

   I told him I'm sure there are hacks on the web to fix all these 
issues, and that I heard you could put linux on them.  But then I see 
that you don't have gen 4 yet.  What would happen if I tried the OS X 
gui linux loader and tried to put linux on this probable gen 4 ipod?  
Would it just not work?  Would it mess things up?  Could I reinstall 
the firm ware?  What's the stumbling point for getting the code to work 
on it?  Is gen 4 firmware totally different or is it just that you 
haven't tested it yet?

    I'm hoping you'll tell me, that you don't know if it works or not 
and that I should try the loader with some debug flag on and that the 
loader is capable of reloading the apple firmware in case of screw ups. 
  My friend isn't going to be here for very long so please email me back 
as soon as possible.  Thanks and you should put the exact reasons why 
the gen 4's don't work on your wiki for future googlers.  When I read 
"unsupported", I sometimes think "works but extremely buggy".

                      - Peter

Re: [Ipodlinux-devel] gen 4

[Tom P. <to...@ca...>]

Peter <pet...@si...> wrote:

>     A friend of mine got an ipod for christmas and he wanted me to put
>some music in it.  Problem is, I use an old Mac OS 9 computer for
>playing mp3s, my OS X laptop has no mp3s on it and no room for them, my

If you can mount the mp3s on a linux (or maybe os x) machine then you can use
SyncPOD http://freshmeat.net/projects/syncpod/ which simply copies a directory
of mp3s onto the ipod with the appropriate database manipulations. There are
also a number of other such programs to copy mp3s to the ipod from linux. You
can't just copy the mp3s on with cp, you have to put them in a special
place and create a database that the ipod uses to generate the menus and find
the files in it's filesystem (it doesn't do this itself when it boots).

If os 9 doesn't allow you to share the mp3s on a network, then maybe one of
the linux ftp filesystems will work?

If you have less than 10GB of mp3s to sync, mount the ipod on your linux box.
ftp the mp3s to the ipod and put them in a temporary directory. Then use
syncpod to sync them from the temp directory on the ipod to the ipod's own
structure (which will copy them, hence you can only use half the ipod). Then
delete the temporary directory if you want to use the ipod to sneakernet
other random files.

The only issue is that SyncPOD is such that if you delete the source
directory, it will sync this change and delete all the music on the ipod --
it's designed to sync your computer's collection with the ipod. This is a
problem if you want to sync more songs after you have deleted the
temporary directory.

--
Tom Parker - to...@ca...
           - http://www.carrott.org

Re: [Ipodlinux-devel] gen 4

[Philipp P. <phi...@gm...>]

I would use "ephpod" (its a schmall windows program)

http://www.ephpod.com/

to copy the mp3 files to the ipod! you can even make an ephpod folder, with=
in=20
you place some directory references(is this the correct english word?) and =
if=20
ephpod is correctly configured just pressing on the sync and quit button in=
=20
the start-programm-menu  is doing everything for you!
have fun!

On Saturday 25 December 2004 20:44, Peter wrote:
> Hi,
>      A friend of mine got an ipod for christmas and he wanted me to put
> some music in it.  Problem is, I use an old Mac OS 9 computer for
> playing mp3s, my OS X laptop has no mp3s on it and no room for them, my
> windows computer refuses to run iTunes, it just quits instantly,
> (possibly because it doesn't like my driver debugger, I need to try it
> without that loaded).  And none of my linux or BSD computers have any
> mp3s either.  It seems the only way I can put mp3s on his computer
> would be to ftp them like 10 at a time from the OS 9 to the OS X and
> then copy them from there to the ipod which is a pain in the ass and
> then if he wants to use any other computer to get songs, he can't
> because they're limited to one computer.
>
>     I think its an ipod mini which would mean gen 4?  Its small, 20 GB,
> "MP000 Model: MP102" on the back.  The "About screen" says Version
> 3.0.1 Model PE435 A, I take the "435" to mean gen 4.
>
>    I told him I'm sure there are hacks on the web to fix all these
> issues, and that I heard you could put linux on them.  But then I see
> that you don't have gen 4 yet.  What would happen if I tried the OS X
> gui linux loader and tried to put linux on this probable gen 4 ipod?
> Would it just not work?  Would it mess things up?  Could I reinstall
> the firm ware?  What's the stumbling point for getting the code to work
> on it?  Is gen 4 firmware totally different or is it just that you
> haven't tested it yet?
>
>     I'm hoping you'll tell me, that you don't know if it works or not
> and that I should try the loader with some debug flag on and that the
> loader is capable of reloading the apple firmware in case of screw ups.
>   My friend isn't going to be here for very long so please email me back
> as soon as possible.  Thanks and you should put the exact reasons why
> the gen 4's don't work on your wiki for future googlers.  When I read
> "unsupported", I sometimes think "works but extremely buggy".
>
>                       - Peter
>
>
>
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Re: [Ipodlinux-devel] gen 4

[Antonio V. <win...@gm...>]

On Mon, 27 Dec 2004 11:24:06 +0100, Philipp Pap <phi...@gm...> wrote:
> I would use "ephpod" (its a schmall windows program)
> 
> http://www.ephpod.com/
> 
> to copy the mp3 files to the ipod! you can even make an ephpod folder, within
> you place some directory references(is this the correct english word?) and if
> ephpod is correctly configured just pressing on the sync and quit button in
> the start-programm-menu  is doing everything for you!
> have fun!
> 
> On Saturday 25 December 2004 20:44, Peter wrote:
> > Hi,
> >      A friend of mine got an ipod for christmas and he wanted me to put
> > some music in it.  Problem is, I use an old Mac OS 9 computer for
> > playing mp3s, my OS X laptop has no mp3s on it and no room for them, my
> > windows computer refuses to run iTunes, it just quits instantly,
> > (possibly because it doesn't like my driver debugger, I need to try it
> > without that loaded).  And none of my linux or BSD computers have any
> > mp3s either.  It seems the only way I can put mp3s on his computer
> > would be to ftp them like 10 at a time from the OS 9 to the OS X and
> > then copy them from there to the ipod which is a pain in the ass and
> > then if he wants to use any other computer to get songs, he can't
> > because they're limited to one computer.
> >
> >     I think its an ipod mini which would mean gen 4?  Its small, 20 GB,
> > "MP000 Model: MP102" on the back.  The "About screen" says Version
> > 3.0.1 Model PE435 A, I take the "435" to mean gen 4.
> >
> >    I told him I'm sure there are hacks on the web to fix all these
> > issues, and that I heard you could put linux on them.  But then I see
> > that you don't have gen 4 yet.  What would happen if I tried the OS X
> > gui linux loader and tried to put linux on this probable gen 4 ipod?
> > Would it just not work?  Would it mess things up?  Could I reinstall
> > the firm ware?  What's the stumbling point for getting the code to work
> > on it?  Is gen 4 firmware totally different or is it just that you
> > haven't tested it yet?
> >
> >     I'm hoping you'll tell me, that you don't know if it works or not
> > and that I should try the loader with some debug flag on and that the
> > loader is capable of reloading the apple firmware in case of screw ups.
> >   My friend isn't going to be here for very long so please email me back
> > as soon as possible.  Thanks and you should put the exact reasons why
> > the gen 4's don't work on your wiki for future googlers.  When I read
> > "unsupported", I sometimes think "works but extremely buggy".
> >
> >                       - Peter
> >
> >

I've got a related problem:

My main home machine is MAC so i formatted the ipod using the mac.
This was flawless :)

Now, when I try to dock the ipod to a windows machine they can't read
the data partition, since it's HFS+.

So, my question is, if I format the ipod on windows, will I be able
to sync mac->ipod correctly? Will I have to update the ipod firmware
from windows instead of mac also?

ps. I got no windows machine at home, only mac and linux...

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