ipodlinux-devel

[Ipodlinux-devel] hello

[Florin B. <fl...@bn...>]

hi everyone!

this project sounds very interesting -- i own an ipod (mac version) and 
an ibook, running both os 9.2 and linux.

i'm very interested in running linux on my ipod, for two reasons:

(1) the possibility of playing OGG files. i read on the website that 
it's almost possible (80% realtime). any chances in the near future of 
that becoming real-time?

(2) the possibility to change my ipod's behavior. ipod has some really 
nice features, but it would be simply great to be able to change those.

as i understand from your website, there is some work to be done in the 
area of drivers and GUI.

as soon as i get home i'll try to reproduce the work as described on the 
website (that is making the linux kernel boot).

is there at the time being any serious effort to make the ipod usable 
with linux, or is work more or less stalled?

i'm familiar with c/c++, and i also wrote some linux character devices 
(mainly for big CCD cams). i'm aware that this might not be enough to 
undestand all implications of the ipod/linux hack, but i'm learning fast :-)

is there anything special i can attempt?

regards,
florin.

Re: [Ipodlinux-devel] hello

[Bernard L. <le...@bo...>]

Hi Florin,

To answer your second question first, work is on-going on the project. 
I'm still trying to get hardware support into the kernel for all the
iPod devices.  I'm getting there but its slow going.  Currently I am
working on the power management aspects to see what I can do about
limiting battery usage.

Regarding the Ogg playback, sofar I haven't tried to optimise it and no
experts in this area have come forward with any suggestions on how to do
it!  Just last week there was comment on the Tremor mailing list about
some updates - I'm hoping that their next release will have some
speed-ups.

Other than the kernel work the biggist missing part is a GUI.  I had
thought to use Microwindows (since its already part of the uClinux build
tree).  I custom display driver needs to be written so to allow
Microwindows to use the iPod display.  The driver could be based on the
current framebuffer so it shouldn't be too hard.

On that front I'd be interested to hear from any graphically minded
people what the GUI could look like...

cheers,
bern.

On Sun, 2003-03-30 at 15:28, Florin Boariu wrote:
> hi everyone!
> 
> this project sounds very interesting -- i own an ipod (mac version) and 
> an ibook, running both os 9.2 and linux.
> 
> i'm very interested in running linux on my ipod, for two reasons:
> 
> (1) the possibility of playing OGG files. i read on the website that 
> it's almost possible (80% realtime). any chances in the near future of 
> that becoming real-time?
> 
> (2) the possibility to change my ipod's behavior. ipod has some really 
> nice features, but it would be simply great to be able to change those.
> 
> as i understand from your website, there is some work to be done in the 
> area of drivers and GUI.
> 
> as soon as i get home i'll try to reproduce the work as described on the 
> website (that is making the linux kernel boot).
> 
> is there at the time being any serious effort to make the ipod usable 
> with linux, or is work more or less stalled?
> 
> i'm familiar with c/c++, and i also wrote some linux character devices 
> (mainly for big CCD cams). i'm aware that this might not be enough to 
> undestand all implications of the ipod/linux hack, but i'm learning fast :-)
> 
> is there anything special i can attempt?
> 
> regards,
> florin.
> 
> 
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Re: [Ipodlinux-devel] hello

[Carlos <ca...@pe...>]

El lun, 31 de 03 de 2003 a las 10:37, Bernard Leach escribi=F3:
> Hi Florin,
>=20

Hi people

> To answer your second question first, work is on-going on the project.=20
> I'm still trying to get hardware support into the kernel for all the
> iPod devices.  I'm getting there but its slow going.  Currently I am
> working on the power management aspects to see what I can do about
> limiting battery usage.

And you are doing a really amazing work, thanks!!!

>=20
> Regarding the Ogg playback, sofar I haven't tried to optimise it and no
> experts in this area have come forward with any suggestions on how to do
> it!  Just last week there was comment on the Tremor mailing list about
> some updates - I'm hoping that their next release will have some
> speed-ups.
>=20
> Other than the kernel work the biggist missing part is a GUI.  I had
> thought to use Microwindows (since its already part of the uClinux build
> tree).  I custom display driver needs to be written so to allow
> Microwindows to use the iPod display.  The driver could be based on the
> current framebuffer so it shouldn't be too hard.
>=20
> On that front I'd be interested to hear from any graphically minded
> people what the GUI could look like...

And what about using the framebuffer gtk2?

I think it only needs a framebuffer driver and don't need any additional
driver.

I was thinking on develop a GUI with gtk2 so we could also test it with
Linux && X as a normal application and just recompile it with
framebuffer support and put it inside iPod.


The web project is: http://www.directfb.org/gtk.xml

>=20
> cheers,
> bern.

Cheers and thanks for all your work bern.
>=20
> On Sun, 2003-03-30 at 15:28, Florin Boariu wrote:
> > hi everyone!
> >=20
> > this project sounds very interesting -- i own an ipod (mac version) and=
=20
> > an ibook, running both os 9.2 and linux.
> >=20
> > i'm very interested in running linux on my ipod, for two reasons:
> >=20
> > (1) the possibility of playing OGG files. i read on the website that=20
> > it's almost possible (80% realtime). any chances in the near future of=20
> > that becoming real-time?
> >=20
> > (2) the possibility to change my ipod's behavior. ipod has some really=20
> > nice features, but it would be simply great to be able to change those.
> >=20
> > as i understand from your website, there is some work to be done in the=
=20
> > area of drivers and GUI.
> >=20
> > as soon as i get home i'll try to reproduce the work as described on th=
e=20
> > website (that is making the linux kernel boot).
> >=20
> > is there at the time being any serious effort to make the ipod usable=20
> > with linux, or is work more or less stalled?
> >=20
> > i'm familiar with c/c++, and i also wrote some linux character devices=20
> > (mainly for big CCD cams). i'm aware that this might not be enough to=20
> > undestand all implications of the ipod/linux hack, but i'm learning fas=
t :-)
> >=20
> > is there anything special i can attempt?
> >=20
> > regards,
> > florin.
> >=20
> >=20
> >=20
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