+1 here too with Bryce's reasoning.

On Aug 17, 2013 6:30 AM, "Ted Gould" <ted@gould.cx> wrote:

On Fri, 2013-08-16 at 17:14 -0700, Bryce Harrington wrote:
On Fri, Aug 16, 2013 at 03:24:55PM -0400, Tony Sebro wrote:
> On Wed, 2013-08-14 at 16:24 -0400, Tony Sebro wrote:
> >>TL,DR:  Please vote on whether to allow LibreTees to print and sell
> >>T-shirts and other promotional material items for Inkscape, where a
> >>portion of the proceeds gets donated back to Inkscape (or a project or
> >>charity of Inkscape's choosing).
> On 08/16/2013 05:30 AM, Tavmjong Bah wrote:
> >
> > I don't have any problems with this. What do others think?
> >
> > Tav
> Thanks, Tav. Does anyone else want to weigh in?

Googling inkscape t-shirts shows some existing products out there:


Based on a look at libretees.com's kickstarter page, I like that their
motivation sounds more aligned with improving marketing of FOSS
projects, rather than merely cashing in.  Thus I would vote to approve.

It would make my decision easier if we could see the design first,
although I know this gets to be a chicken-and-egg problem (why fund
making a design, if they don't know whether or not we'll approve it).
However, I would hope to see two things in their design:

  1.  Nothing offensive.  Obviously.
  2.  High calibre design.  Inkscape is a drawing tool, and will be
      judged based on the design quality of the advertisement.

But I don't think it's necessary to condition my vote based on these; I
think their effort's success or failure will already be dependent on
achieving both goals.  So +1 from me.


> Best,
> -Tony
> >>Longer version:
> >>Hi, all.
> >>
> >>Earlier this week, I was approached by Jared Contrascere of LibreTees
> >>(www.libretees.com), a start-up for-profit company that plans to
> >>design, print, and market t-shirts and stickers bearing the names and
> >>logos of various leading FLOSS projects.  They're interested in
> >>creating t-shirts for the Inkscape project.
> >>
> >>Bear in mind that, under the newly-ratified (but as of now
> >>unpublished) TM policy, LibreTees would be able to create and sell
> >>merchandise bearing the Inkscape name and logo without additional
> >>permission, *provided* that they were only using unmodified graphics
> >>from Inkscape.com.  As you can see from the link, LibreTees tends to
> >>create modified versions of project logos in their designs.
> >>
> >>Jared has sent an official request to create promotional materials for
> >>Inkscape; I've attached it below.  He's also been in touch with Jon
> >>from Inkscape's Press Relations team.  In addition, I spoke to him by
> >>phone today, and can add the following info:
> >>
> >> target retail price for the shirts:  undecided, but likely $12.50 to
> >>$15 USD.
> >> Once the official website launches, Libretees.com will turn into an
> >>e-retailer site selling t-shirts with designs for multiple FLOSS
> >>projects.
> >> Some portion (yet to be determined) will be donated back to the
> >>project or to a charity of the project's choosing.
> >> They're looking to find a t-shirt manufacture that doesn't use
> >>sweatshop labor
> >> conservative target date for first printing:  November 2013
> >>
> >>Open question:  I don't know if they plan to release any t-shirt
> >>design under a Creative Commons license.
> >>
> >>Based on the above, I ask the Inkscape Committee to please vote to
> >>approve Libretee's request to approve the creation of Inkscape
> >>promotional materials.
> >>
> >>If you have any questions or need any additional information, please
> >>let me know.
> >>
> >>Best,
> >>-Tony
> >>
> >>-------- Original Message --------
> >>Tony,
> >>
> >>I'm with LibreTees, a recently-launched project that promotes
> >>free/open software through consumer and commodity activism. This is
> >>similar to the idea behind (RED) products being sold to help fight
> >>AIDS, or people buying a Toyota Prius to encourage a lesser negative
> >>impact on the environment.
> >>
> >>We want to sell t-shirts in one place on the Internet that promotes
> >>and benefits the free/open source community. In addition to that, we
> >>want to contribute funds back to these projects to cover hosting fees
> >>and other project-related costs. Further, we want to have a positive
> >>impact on our local community here in Washington, DC.
> >>
> >>We currently have a Kickstarter campaign in progress, and we are very
> >>interested in producing an Inkscape shirt for display and sale on our
> >>Kickstarter site. This campaign can currently be viewed
> >>at  www.libretees.com.
> >>
> >>Please let me know if we could have permission to create promotional
> >>wear/materials for the Inkscape project. If you have any questions for
> >>me, please let me know!
> >>
> >>Best,
> >>Jared
> >>
> >>-- 
> >>Jared N. Contrascere
> >>President :: LibreTees, LLC
> >>Phone - (703) 599-6233
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>______________________________________________________________________
> >>Message sent via Atmail Open - http://atmail.org/
> >>
> >>
> >
> -- 
> Tony Sebro, General Counsel, Software Freedom Conservancy
> +1-212-461-3245 x11
> tony@sfconservancy.org
> www.sfconservancy.org

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