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Re: [infomap-nlp-devel] PERL/CGI: associate -v or -p: bad options?
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From: Scott C. <ced...@gm...> - 2006-10-24 17:32:57
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As a short-term non-fix, we may also want to clean up the webif code
so as not to get people's hopes up. I'd also like to get the spectrum
plotter released...
Thanks for refreshing my memory on -p and -v. I'm not even sure
whether I could find a copy of the code that has these implemented, so
I'm glad to hear that you've got one.
Scott
On 10/24/06, Dominic Widdows <wi...@ma...> wrote:
> Dear Zbynek,
>
> Sorry for not responding sooner. I see what your problem is now. When
> we cleaned up the infomap codebase for public release, we only had a
> couple of months before the project's funding ended, and decided that
> the clustering and contrasting pairs options were bleeding edge and
> optional. So we left them out, hoping to put them into later releases.
>
> We only released the web interface code more recently, and in a
> "strictly beta" fashion - it hasn't been through the same cleaning up
> process. It turns out that the Perl web interface code is making
> calls against options in the core C infomap engine that won't be
> there in your release.
>
> I will think about trying to solve this (and Scott, if you have any
> time to help, that would be great). I was never 100% happy with the
> former clustering code, it wasn't a great clustering algorithm, and
> it was very wrapped in to the "associate" executable. It might be
> much easier to create and maintain a more modular architecture, where
> associate writes out the vectors to be clustered (e.g. the top 200)
> to a file using the "-f" option, and clustering libraries read these
> files. It wouldn't be as efficient, but I don't believe that this
> would make too much difference in practice (not for a single user
> running the algorithm once as part of a browser interface - other
> latencies are greater than writing and reading a file some where on
> your web server).
>
> This way we could write or reuse many clustering algorithms quite
> easily. It's also the way that the Java word spectrum plotter works.
>
> If you want to try wrapping in the clustering algorithm from the
> original infomap source, I could send you the files and try to help
> you. But it may actually take longer, I'm not sure.
> Best wishes,
> Dominic
>
> On Oct 24, 2006, at 5:19 AM, Zbynek Studenovsky wrote:
>
> > Dear Scott,
> >
> > thank you for your prompt respond. Unfortunately, I am not able to run
> > associate from the command line with the -p or -v options. The only
> > available options are in the attached man file (associate_man.txt)
> > and here:
> >
> > Usage:associate [-w | -d | -q]
> > [-i type_of_input(d or w)] [-f vector_output_file]
> > ( [-t] | [-m model_dir] )
> > [-c <model_tag>]
> > [-n num_neighbors] [-f vector_output_file]
> > <pos_term_1> [pos_term_2 ... pos_term_n]
> > [NOT neg_term_1 ... neg_term_n]
> >
> > Task: -w associate words (DEFAULT)
> > -d associate documents
> > -q print query vector
> >
> > I have also compiled a new version of associate from CVS (1.2) and
> > it runs
> > with the same results.
> >
> > I think the problem could be an old code in the public version of
> > associate
> > in Infomap 0.8.6 and I think no one is able to run associate with -
> > v or -p
> > options. It would be nice, if you or Beate Dorow could add a
> > revision of
> > associate in CVS.
> >
> > Many thanks for your help and best regards
> >
> > Zbynek Studenovsky
> > -----------------------------------------
> > email: zb...@ma...
> > homepage: http://homepage.mac.com/zbynek
> >
> > Am 23.10.2006 18:13 Uhr schrieb "Scott Cederberg" unter
> > <ced...@gm...>:
> >
> >> Hi Zbynek,
> >>
> >> I'm glad to hear that you've gotten the Web frontend working.
> >> Are you able to run associate from the command line with the -p or -v
> >> options?
> >>
> >> Unfortunately I'm not that familiar with these options... I'll
> >> give them a try tonight when I get home, though, to see if they work
> >> in my version of the software.
> >>
> >>
> >> Scott
> >>
> >> On 10/23/06, Zbynek Studenovsky <zb...@ma...> wrote:
> >>> Dear Sirs,
> >>>
> >>> I use a Infomap software to build a language model (Greek New
> >>> Testament and
> >>> LXX) for my doctoral thesis. For publishing I would like to make
> >>> my model
> >>> available for another researches via www. For this reason I have
> >>> installed
> >>> on my system (Mac OS X 10.3.9 PowerPC) an Infomap demo PERL and
> >>> CGI scripts
> >>> from CVS (webif) directory. All scripts are running great and I
> >>> can search
> >>> for nearest neighbors of related words and retrieve documents
> >>> without
> >>> problems, also with negative keywords.
> >>>
> >>> Regrettably, I am unable to search for "clustered results" and
> >>> "contrasting
> >>> pairs" with my version of associate (?) - my Apache server
> >>> (version 1.3)
> >>> records in error_log "Bad option: -v" for "clustered results" and
> >>> "Bad
> >>> option: -p" for "contrasting pairs".
> >>>
> >>> My question is: Is the 'problem' in air file code (lines 74-79):
> >>>
> >>> #71 sub associate(){
> >>> #72 $command = "associate -w -c " . $input{'corpus'};
> >>> #73 if( $input{'contrast'} eq 'clustered' ){
> >>> #74 $command = $command . " -v clusters " . $input{'results'} .
> >>> " "
> >>> #75 . $input{'clusters'};
> >>> #76 }
> >>> #77 if( $input{'contrast'} eq 'pairs' ){
> >>> #78 $command = $command . " -p";
> >>> #79 }
> >>>
> >>> or in my installed 'old' version of associate?
> >>>
> >>> Many thanks for your help and best regards from Prague
> >>>
> >>> Zbynek Studenovsky
> >>> -----------------------------------------
> >>> email: zb...@ma...
> >>> homepage: http://homepage.mac.com/zbynek
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >
> >
> > <associate_man.txt>
>
>
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