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2020-04-07
2020-04-08
  • v77

    v77 - 2020-04-07

    (tl;dr) Just some harebrained ideas from a fool. You can close this page.

    Yes, that's true!
    Most people are ready to believe anything. The issue we are currently facing with ImDisk Toolkit is the same than the one for the coronavirus.
    Here in France, we have several scandals around this disease. Our government has made everything to slow down the use of chloroquine and tests, and is still doing that.
    The chloroquine... a drug known since 50 years. They are doing as if we didn't know the side effects, as if it was something new. A new study? Who is ready to give his ill mother a placebo?
    And in the meantime, people are dying.

    It's the same with cancer. Who is aware we are now able to cure most forms of cancer, even in the last stage? Who knows the treatment of Laurent Schwartz?
    But like with the coronavirus, there is no money to do for the industry. No new patent. There are only existing, known substances.

    Money, money, money...

    And yes, the same for this software. Antivirus vendors are ready to anything to maximize their profit.
    To make think people that their product detects more threats than the other ones, they use any doubt, bad reputation, to give more alerts.
    "Oh yes, this one detects more things than the others!"... even if these new things are parts of the system, or legitimate and open source softwares... Ready to destroy their own system to feel more secure.
    Therefore, the most used antiviruses are those that give the largest number of false positives.

    Of course, I could just tell the users of ImDisk Toolkit to ignore the alerts of their antivirus. But as Google also uses antiviruses, this also means to be no longer indexed, like it already happened.
    Really, antiviruses rule the computing world... and therefore nowadays, the world itself.

     

    Last edit: v77 2020-04-07
  • Wizard

    Wizard - 2020-04-07

    While I totally agree with you here, and actually have the opinion that, despite your decription here, the world is actually even in worse shape than that. Is it a really big deal if imtoolkit doesn't get indexed by google ? Perhaps instead of an easy .exe distribute it here as a passworded ZIP to prevent any scanners from scanning it all together? That would I think at least prevent Google from "seeing" anything bad about it. Still a local scanner could start flashing when the user unpacks the ZIP, but that's a risk any user will have with most downloads anyways ?

     
    • v77

      v77 - 2020-04-07

      But a lot of users will find that suspect. Trying to hide something, a software detected as a malware by a lot of antiviruses... not really the better way for inspiring trust.
      I am not making open source softwares to hide something.

      That said, the last trick seems to work, at least for now. The number of alerts is quite stable: 3 for the 64-bit build, and 7-8 for the 32-bit build.

      The last possibility would be to remove the SFX module. That means to distribute a .zip file, and after decompression, the user would have to manually start the installation.
      But in this form, a lot of users will try to use it directly, because they will see RamDiskUI.exe, MountImg.exe, and so on. But the driver still requires a proper install, and the other executables require to stay at the same place to be started with the system if required. There is also the issue with the files in use (for instance RamDyn.exe for the dynamic ramdisks).
      So an install is hardly avoidable.
      Therefore, I would have to find a way to force, or at least encourage, the users to still make the install.

       
  • Wizard

    Wizard - 2020-04-07

    I actually meant to simply put the installer inside a passworded ZIP. When they unpack, all they see is what you'd normally download directly from here and start that .exe the way it always has been... This "method" would just prevent Google's prying eyes inside the .exe making it impossible for users to download the .exe from here because most use Chrome and then it would block that...

     
    • v77

      v77 - 2020-04-07

      and start that .exe the way it always has been...

      That will not be the case, because their antivirus will complain when they'll click on the .exe.
      A lot of people blindly trust their antivirus, and don't even read the message it gives. All they see is an alert, and so something to remove.

       
  • ccchan

    ccchan - 2020-04-08

    let us know if anything layman could do.

    thank you.

    and take care everybody.

     

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