Yes, RML can do multiple queries on one page. It can actually do pretty
much anything that can be programmed. As for pdfs and other formats,
currnetly the idrs will only generate text based formats (html, xml,
wml...). Perhaps having the IDRS generate XML, and then use XSL to
transform the report into a pdf using filters? You could also generate
HTML and use a html->pdf translator (i know there are a few for java).
If XML can be generated properly we could generate PDF via FOP, as some other standard reports in our system do it.
for HTML the conversion might also work and smaller layouts (especially WML or other handheld/PDA formats) it seems even more useful.
I was hoping the PDF output is already "built in" to save us an extra step, but if the report generation before that step works well we can stand it.
How about direct printing (to system printers), is that supported or does it require a browser/viewer for each format and that one does the printing?
I am especially thinking about the new printing (and preview) features of JDK1.3.1 and 1.4 which open a broader variety of printing than before.
Plus: Is there a development GUI such as DataVision (more like Crystal Reports and not a real competition in OUR project as its author "confessed") seems to have?
If not, do you see such tools possible and would those be interesting (we CAN create them if the project has use for idrs...)
Especially plugins for JBuilder 4-6 and Eclipse (or at least one) are in my mind, maybe (if there is demand and developers) also for NetBeans/Forte, though Sun has been very "high-nosed" about such developments in the past
(e.g. regarding requests about i18n issues in NetBeans the assume the world just to belong of USA and Japan...)
Best Regards,
Werner Keil
CEO/CSA
Survey Computing
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Especially for Eclipse (also JBuilder though it is not directly embedded) Tomcat is
1. Embedded directly into the SDK being part of the documentation and help system (local webapps that can "reach out" into web-based ones, too)
2. Reachable and startable via a special Tomcat plugin (which I know and also contributed the German, Bulgarian and parts of the English translation...) Such a plugin (maybe and extension to the Tomcat one?) is also what I have in mind for Eclipse.
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There is no direct support for printing. If there is no need for a full fledged web server, a facade web context (which i have done before) can be created to allow RML pages to be generated without the servlet infrastructure.
THere is no designer or GUI. The best way I have found to use the system is to first design the page staticly, and then insert the RML to activate it. While I have considered building such a tool, I have not yet had the time or the recources to begin. Currently I am working on migrating RML to a true XML dialect and other developers are working on the servlet infrastructure.
In my head I have plaid with the idea of an RML debuging platform independant of the IDE by stepping through each "chunk" object and having an interface to transfer what chunk it is visually to the ide. I have not had time though to pursue this idea.
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Hello,
Yes, RML can do multiple queries on one page. It can actually do pretty
much anything that can be programmed. As for pdfs and other formats,
currnetly the idrs will only generate text based formats (html, xml,
wml...). Perhaps having the IDRS generate XML, and then use XSL to
transform the report into a pdf using filters? You could also generate
HTML and use a html->pdf translator (i know there are a few for java).
the best way to start is to get the latest binaried from
http://prdownloads.sourceforge.net/idrs/idrs_2.0a3.zip and to follow the
docs at http://idrs.sourceforge.net/alpha.html .
Hope the idrs helps in what you need!
Marc Boorshtein
IDRS Project Leader
Thanks.
If XML can be generated properly we could generate PDF via FOP, as some other standard reports in our system do it.
for HTML the conversion might also work and smaller layouts (especially WML or other handheld/PDA formats) it seems even more useful.
I was hoping the PDF output is already "built in" to save us an extra step, but if the report generation before that step works well we can stand it.
How about direct printing (to system printers), is that supported or does it require a browser/viewer for each format and that one does the printing?
I am especially thinking about the new printing (and preview) features of JDK1.3.1 and 1.4 which open a broader variety of printing than before.
Plus: Is there a development GUI such as DataVision (more like Crystal Reports and not a real competition in OUR project as its author "confessed") seems to have?
If not, do you see such tools possible and would those be interesting (we CAN create them if the project has use for idrs...)
Especially plugins for JBuilder 4-6 and Eclipse (or at least one) are in my mind, maybe (if there is demand and developers) also for NetBeans/Forte, though Sun has been very "high-nosed" about such developments in the past
(e.g. regarding requests about i18n issues in NetBeans the assume the world just to belong of USA and Japan...)
Best Regards,
Werner Keil
CEO/CSA
Survey Computing
Especially for Eclipse (also JBuilder though it is not directly embedded) Tomcat is
1. Embedded directly into the SDK being part of the documentation and help system (local webapps that can "reach out" into web-based ones, too)
2. Reachable and startable via a special Tomcat plugin (which I know and also contributed the German, Bulgarian and parts of the English translation...) Such a plugin (maybe and extension to the Tomcat one?) is also what I have in mind for Eclipse.
Not really sure what you mean. Could you go into some further detail?
THanks
Marc
There is no direct support for printing. If there is no need for a full fledged web server, a facade web context (which i have done before) can be created to allow RML pages to be generated without the servlet infrastructure.
THere is no designer or GUI. The best way I have found to use the system is to first design the page staticly, and then insert the RML to activate it. While I have considered building such a tool, I have not yet had the time or the recources to begin. Currently I am working on migrating RML to a true XML dialect and other developers are working on the servlet infrastructure.
In my head I have plaid with the idea of an RML debuging platform independant of the IDE by stepping through each "chunk" object and having an interface to transfer what chunk it is visually to the ide. I have not had time though to pursue this idea.