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[Adam Pribyl <covex@ah...>]

Confirming, please fill a bug in icewm bug tracker and add the describtion 
as you did below. 
I'd also like icewmtray to be possible to run only once,

Icewmtray is a native part of icewm, I do not think it's anyhow 
unmaintained.

Adam Pribyl

On Wed, 29 Sep 2004, Jozef Riha wrote:

> > On Tue, 28 Sep 2004, Jozef Riha wrote:
> what i do is
> 
> either:
> 
> start icewmtray, then again, and again and again..
> 
> or:
> 
> start licq/psi, kill it, start licq/psi again, kill it, ...
> 
> the thing might be that my taskbar is 38 pixels high (i stretched linux.xpm cause i like bigger icons in the toolbar). please try the above steps w/ the increased height of the task bar.
> 
> thank you. icewmtray seems a bit unmaintained to me but i hope someone would be able to fix this annoying bug.
> 
> cheers,
> 
> -- joe

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[<zefo@se...>]

> On Tue, 28 Sep 2004, Jozef Riha wrote:
> 
> > hi,
> > 
> > while i was playing w/ iceWM 1.2.16 i found out that everytime i run icewmtray it decreases the height of the taskbar by a few pixels. can anyone replicate this?
> 
> Steps to reproduce? (I tried to kill, start, kill, start.. icewmtray and 
> it works ok. What application are you running in tray?)
> 
> > cheers,
> > 
> > -- joe
> 
> Adam Pribyl
> 
what i do is

either:

start icewmtray, then again, and again and again..

or:

start licq/psi, kill it, start licq/psi again, kill it, ...

the thing might be that my taskbar is 38 pixels high (i stretched linux.xpm cause i like bigger icons in the toolbar). please try the above steps w/ the increased height of the task bar.

thank you. icewmtray seems a bit unmaintained to me but i hope someone would be able to fix this annoying bug.

cheers,

-- joe

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[Adam Pribyl <covex@ah...>]

On Tue, 28 Sep 2004, Jozef Riha wrote:

> hi,
> 
> while i was playing w/ iceWM 1.2.16 i found out that everytime i run icewmtray it decreases the height of the taskbar by a few pixels. can anyone replicate this?

Steps to reproduce? (I tried to kill, start, kill, start.. icewmtray and 
it works ok. What application are you running in tray?)

> cheers,
> 
> -- joe

Adam Pribyl

notes (and RFE) on taskbar themes

[F. Kater <f.kater2@gm...>]

Hi,

some notes on theming the taskbar: If I am not wrong you can't change
the following by a taskbar theme:

* there is always a square (border) around the taskbar buttons

* the bottom of the buttons is slightly different from the bottom
  of the taskbar, the buttons are a bit smaller (you'll notice that
  especially when the taskbar is on top and then maximize a window).

* you can't change the space between taskbar buttons


To solve all this in one step, I would like to add an idea as a RFE: To
draw a taskbar it would be best if we had just a chain of xpm images
(rather thinking in terms of background/foreground). In this way 3d
effects of pressed or released buttons, the width of spaces etc are in
the hands of the theme. And, as the buttons itself ARE the taskbar there
would be no background necessary. A possible chain of the xpm images
could be:

1 taskbarEdgeLeft
2 tastbarStartbuttonActive/Inactive
3 taskbarButtonLeftActive/Inactive
4 taskbarButtonCenterActive/Inactive
5 taskbarButtonRightActive/Inactive
6 taskbarTrayBackground
7 taskbarEdgeRight

Felix

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[<zefo@se...>]

hi,

while i was playing w/ iceWM 1.2.16 i found out that everytime i run icewmtray it decreases the height of the taskbar by a few pixels. can anyone replicate this?

thank you.

cheers,

-- joe

Re: Excluding GNOME panel & desktop from quick switch?

[<dakilla@gm...>]

On Tue, 28 Sep 2004 06:34:13 +1000, Paul Gear <paul@...> wrote:
> Hi folks,
> 
> Is there a way i can get rid of "Top Panel" and "Desktop" from the quick
> switch list in GNOME?  They always seem to insert themselves between my
> two most recent apps, requiring me to Alt-Tab twice to get the desired
> effect.  I searched the list archives and couldn't find any reference to
> this.

http://www.icewm.org/manual/icewm-14.html#winoptions


da.killa

Excluding GNOME panel & desktop from quick switch?

[Paul Gear <paul@ge...>]

Hi folks,

Is there a way i can get rid of "Top Panel" and "Desktop" from the quick
switch list in GNOME?  They always seem to insert themselves between my
two most recent apps, requiring me to Alt-Tab twice to get the desired
effect.  I searched the list archives and couldn't find any reference to
this.

I'm using icewm 1.2.16-1 with gnome-panel 2.6.2-3 on Debian sarge.

Thanks in advance,
Paul
<http://paulgear.webhop.net>;
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Re: set width of task bar buttons?

[Adam Pribyl <covex@ah...>]

On Fri, 24 Sep 2004, F. Kater wrote:

> Hi,
> 
> it seems that icewm uses min and max values for the width of task bar
> buttons depending on how many buttons are shown.

Are there any preferences for this? (I dono..)
If not, then this seems as good RFE to me. (Then set min=max and you have 
fixed width.)

> Felix

Adam Pribyl

set width of task bar buttons?

[F. Kater <f.kater2@gm...>]

Hi,

it seems that icewm uses min and max values for the width of task bar
buttons depending on how many buttons are shown.

Can I somehow set a fix width for all task bar buttons (so that the
width is always the same)?

Felix

Re: Can I change window key bindings?

[Tiberiu Micu <tibimicu@gm...>]

On Thu, 23 Sep 2004 00:02:09 +0200
Peter Mutsaers <plmuon@...> wrote:

> Hello,
> 
> I want to change some of the default window-key actions,
> e.g. I want to lower a window while not loosing focus on alt+mouse3
> (instead of resizing).
> 
> Is this kind of bindings configurable?
> 
> Is it possible to lower a window without loosing focus?

Check the preferences file (usually located in $HOME/.icewm directory).

For example:

[ewsdmed@... .icewm]$ pwd
/home/ewsdmed/.icewm
[ewsdmed@... .icewm]$ grep KeyWinLower preferences
KeyWinLower="Alt+F3"

-- 
Tibi

Re: start program when clicks on root window?

[Tiberiu Micu <tibimicu@gm...>]

On Thu, 23 Sep 2004 00:15:36 +0200
"F. Kater" <f.kater2@...> wrote:

> Hi,
> 
> I'd like to
> 
> 
> * start a program (maybe via a script) when clicking on the root
> window with the left mouse button

I don't think it's possible.
 
> * disable the menu appearing when clicking on the root window with the
> right button

Play with this:

[ewsdmed@... .icewm]$ grep -B1 Root preferences
#  Manage root window (EXPERIMENTAL - normally enabled!)
# GrabRootWindow=1 # 0/1
--
#  Bitmask of root window button click to use in window manager
# UseRootButtons=255 # [0-255]



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Tibi

Copy/paste buffer is too small

[Wilco Beekhuizen <wbeekhui@st...>]

First of all I don't know if this problem is totally icewm related.
When selecting text from an app (lets say mozilla) and pasting that into 
vim I can get about 4000 characters copied.
I select the text and paste it with the middle mouse button. When 
selecting lots of text I only get one weird character instead of the text.
Do I need an external app to handle this?

Hide Menu

[Dominik Gunreben <dominik.gunreben@gm...>]

Hi,

I want to install a Surf Terminal, so I want to disable any access to 
Shells. So I have to remove the Entry "Restart Xterm" (or something like 
that I have the german version :-) in the Menu which can be reach with 
STRG-ESC or the right mouse button. How can I hide this entry or diable 
the whole menu?

Thanks a lot

Dominik

start program when clicks on root window?

[F. Kater <f.kater2@gm...>]

Hi,

I'd like to


* start a program (maybe via a script) when clicking on the root window
with the left mouse button

* disable the menu appearing when clicking on the root window with the
right button


Can I somehow configure icewm this way?


Felix

Can I change window key bindings?

[Peter Mutsaers <plmuon@gm...>]

Hello,

I want to change some of the default window-key actions,
e.g. I want to lower a window while not loosing focus on alt+mouse3
(instead of resizing).

Is this kind of bindings configurable?

Is it possible to lower a window without loosing focus?

TIA,

Peter Mutsaers

Re: autostart application when icewm is started?

[Adam Pribyl <covex@ah...>]

On Wed, 22 Sep 2004, F. Kater wrote:

> Hi,
> 
> is there an option (e.g. in the preferences etc.) where I can place the
> programs I want to be started right after icewm is started?

also:
http://www.icewm.org/FAQ/IceWM-FAQ-1.html#ss1.2
http://www.icewm.org/FAQ/IceWM-FAQ-4.html#ss4.3


> 
> Felix
> 

Re: autostart application when icewm is started?

[<dakilla@gm...>]

On Wed, 22 Sep 2004 09:28:56 +0200, F. Kater <f.kater2@...> wrote:

> is there an option (e.g. in the preferences etc.) where I can place the
> programs I want to be started right after icewm is started?

http://www.icewm.org/manual/icewm-3.html#ss3.3
 
> Felix

da.killa

autostart application when icewm is started?

[F. Kater <f.kater2@gm...>]

Hi,

is there an option (e.g. in the preferences etc.) where I can place the
programs I want to be started right after icewm is started?

Felix

Re: transparent aterm as default xconsole-- Mouse cut-paste

[The Other <sstubbs@sh...>]

> It is possible as with any other unix app - simply select/mark the tex=
t
> with left mouse button, then place cursor to app where you want to hav=
e a
> text pasted and press middle mouse button (if you do not have 3 button=

> mouse enable middle mouse button emulation in xorg.conf and click righ=
t
> and left mouse button together).
>
> Adam Pribyl

Thanks Adam!   I have a 2-button wheel mouse.  I got the wheel working i=
n  =

XWindows, but didn't know how to paste.   The Left-Right combined mouse =
 =

click does indeed paste in Xterm for me.

Stephen.

Re: transparent aterm as default xconsole

[Adam Pribyl <covex@ah...>]

On Mon, 20 Sep 2004, The Other wrote:

> 
> And now a question for you.    :)
> 
> I'm using Xterm with IceWM at the moment.  I've not been able to find a  
> way to copy and cut text from the Xterm session to another Xterm session.   
> Is this possible?
> 
> Stephen Stubbs.

It is possible as with any other unix app - simply select/mark the text 
with left mouse button, then place cursor to app where you want to have a 
text pasted and press middle mouse button (if you do not have 3 button 
mouse enable middle mouse button emulation in xorg.conf and click right 
and left mouse button together).

Adam Pribyl

Re[2]: transparent aterm as default xconsole

[Matt Cahill <m-cahill@ro...>]

Thanks for the tip.  I took care of the aterm problem a while ago, but
I'll look at your tip when I get home to see if it's more efficient (I
can't remember my fix/kludge).

As for aterm, yes I can copy text within an aterm window (mouse-over
to copy, middle button to paste), or from other non-terminal windows.

Cheers,

Matt


Monday, September 20, 2004, 8:54:58 AM, you wrote:

TO> 09/20/04

TO> Hello Matt,

TO> Rather than using IcePref2 to start Aterm, have you tried editing the Menu
TO> or Programs file (depending on where you'd like to see Aterm) and starting
TO> Aterm there?

TO> In my menu file, I have this entry for Xterm.  The format is: Program
TO> Name, Program Icon, Program Executable
TO> (I could also have made this entry in the Programs file.)

TO> prog   _Xterm   /usr/share/icewm/icons/xterm_32x32.xpm    /usr/bin/xterm
TO> -fn 9x15

TO> Notes:
TO> 1)  The underscore before the X in Xterm gives the keyboard shortcut key
TO> to the X.  You could move the underscore to anywhere within Xterm to use a
TO> different letter for the shortcut key.
TO> 2)  As you can see, xterm is accepting the parameter  -fn 9x15  ,   to set
TO> the size of the Xterm window, and consequently the font size.


TO> And now a question for you.    :)

TO> I'm using Xterm with IceWM at the moment.  I've not been able to find a
TO> way to copy and cut text from the Xterm session to another Xterm session.
TO> Is this possible?

TO> If not, does Aterm support keyboard or mouse cut and paste?

TO> If Aterm doesn't, do you know of any terminal program that does?

TO> I would like to avoid installing Gnome or KDE libraries to use the
TO> proposed Xwindows terminal program.  I'm building a LinuxFromScratch
TO> system for music work, on an older PII-350Mhz box, and prefer to keep all
TO> programs down to minimal size.

TO> Thanks for any suggestions you may have.
TO> Stephen Stubbs.

TO> On Mon, 6 Sep 2004 12:07:47 -0400, Matt Cahill <m-cahill@...> wrote:
>>   I'm continuing to trick-out & find-out how far I can push Icewm.  One
>> question I have:  rather than xterm, I'd like to switch to aterm as it
>> supports transparency.  However, when - in IcePref2 - I replace the
>> console
>> command 'xterm' with 'aterm -tr' (which allows transparency), it doesn't
>> read
>> the flag and is thus not transparent.  However, if I type 'aterm -tr' in
>> the
>> address bar it works fine.  Does icewm strip the additional option from
>> the
>> preferences file?
>>
>>   Thanks for any advice :)
>>
>> M




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Re: transparent aterm as default xconsole

[The Other <sstubbs@sh...>]

09/20/04

Hello Matt,

Rather than using IcePref2 to start Aterm, have you tried editing the Me=
nu  =

or Programs file (depending on where you'd like to see Aterm) and starti=
ng  =

Aterm there?

In my menu file, I have this entry for Xterm.  The format is:  Program  =

Name, Program Icon, Program Executable
(I could also have made this entry in the Programs file.)

prog   _Xterm   /usr/share/icewm/icons/xterm_32x32.xpm    /usr/bin/xterm=
   =

-fn 9x15

Notes:
1)  The underscore before the X in Xterm gives the keyboard shortcut key=
  =

to the X.  You could move the underscore to anywhere within Xterm to use=
 a  =

different letter for the shortcut key.
2)  As you can see, xterm is accepting the parameter  -fn 9x15  ,   to s=
et  =

the size of the Xterm window, and consequently the font size.


And now a question for you.    :)

I'm using Xterm with IceWM at the moment.  I've not been able to find a =
 =

way to copy and cut text from the Xterm session to another Xterm session=
.   =

Is this possible?

If not, does Aterm support keyboard or mouse cut and paste?

If Aterm doesn't, do you know of any terminal program that does?

I would like to avoid installing Gnome or KDE libraries to use the  =

proposed Xwindows terminal program.  I'm building a LinuxFromScratch  =

system for music work, on an older PII-350Mhz box, and prefer to keep al=
l  =

programs down to minimal size.

Thanks for any suggestions you may have.
Stephen Stubbs.

On Mon, 6 Sep 2004 12:07:47 -0400, Matt Cahill <m-cahill@...> wro=
te:
>   I'm continuing to trick-out & find-out how far I can push Icewm.  On=
e
> question I have:  rather than xterm, I'd like to switch to aterm as it=

> supports transparency.  However, when - in IcePref2 - I replace the  =

> console
> command 'xterm' with 'aterm -tr' (which allows transparency), it doesn=
't  =

> read
> the flag and is thus not transparent.  However, if I type 'aterm -tr' =
in  =

> the
> address bar it works fine.  Does icewm strip the additional option fro=
m  =

> the
> preferences file?
>
>   Thanks for any advice :)
>
> M

Re: IceWM brief user card

[Mikhail Ramendik <mr@ra...>]

Adam Pribyl wrote:

> > For now it's unfinished but quite readable. Feedback would be much
> > appreciated.
> > 
> > http://www.ramendik.ru/docs/iceuser.html
> 
> I think you took a really big piece of cake. 

Well, it's not a problem in and of itself. If this document is actually
going to be useful, I don't mind spending some forces on it (although
I'll probably only get to it again in early October; but I'll carefully
look at feedback before that). 

I'll be honest and reveal the egoistic motive. One of my main aims is to
put something user-oriented into my open portfolio. I'm a tech writer
with several years of experience, but I don't have much to show to a
potential employer; all my commercial write-ups are under NDAs. I wrote
some technical stuff (the Trash specification - it still needs some
updates but  is mostly done). And now I went for some user stuff.

But, I'm also an IceWM fan, and especially like the idea of a "locked
down desktop" that one can easily make with IceWM. I feel this kind of
desktop needs a user document. So I'm writing one.

> You should think a lot about 
> where is the border you do not want to cross within your describtion, as 
> you are describing very esential things and you can quicky dive very deep 
> in them. (e.g. you are describing desktop with taskbar visible, but 
> administrators can setup desktop the way where taskbar is hiding etc. 
> But describing all the variants will make document too complicated.)

Agreed.

My idea is to write the document for a more or less typical default
setup. And then to offer it to those who set up "locked down desktops",
so they can tweak it as necessary.

As I'm writing this answer, I just had an idea. I think I'll write a
"tweaking guide" for this document, explaining where and what one should
change before giving this to the user. A sort of "meta-documentation"
(documentation that tells how to tweak documentation)

> Pictures will be very very helpfull. You can either make screenshot or 
> (what I personaly prefere) to draw some schematic ones (maybe ascii art 
> could be used).

I'm really bad at drawing, so I'll just do the screenshots...

Yours, Mikhail Ramendik

Re: IceWM brief user card

[Adam Pribyl <covex@ah...>]

On Sat, 18 Sep 2004, Mikhail Ramendik wrote:

> For now it's unfinished but quite readable. Feedback would be much
> appreciated.
> 
> http://www.ramendik.ru/docs/iceuser.html

I think you took a really big piece of cake. You should think a lot about 
where is the border you do not want to cross within your describtion, as 
you are describing very esential things and you can quicky dive very deep 
in them. (e.g. you are describing desktop with taskbar visible, but 
administrators can setup desktop the way where taskbar is hiding etc. 
But describing all the variants will make document too complicated.)

Pictures will be very very helpfull. You can either make screenshot or 
(what I personaly prefere) to draw some schematic ones (maybe ascii art 
could be used).

> Yours, Mikhail Ramendik

Adam Pribyl

Re: Custom menu on FC2

[Arjun Asthana <arjunasthana@gm...>]

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Hi,

SANS <sandeep_from@...> wrote:
> Hello,
>
> I have just installed IceWM 1.2.16 on FC2.
> Post installation when I boot into IceWM the menus
> shown are the same as Gnome.
>
> (1) How can I can modify these menus. What file
> modification is required.
Easy way:
# icewm-menu-gnome{1|2} --list <kde or gnome menu dir> > newmenu
and add file newmenu to your .icewm/menu file.
Manual way:
Edit .icewm/menu. For more info, see man icewm

> (2) When I move mouse from one menu item to another,
> the sub-menus do not branch out automatically.
> I need to click on the menu for the tree to expand.
> Is this a bug or known functionality ?
MenuMouseTracking=1
in .icewm/preferences

> (3) How to make IceWM my default and only WM option.
> Pointers and advices are deeply thanked.

backup your .xinitrc or .xsession or .Xclients. Most probably it will be
.xinitrc. Edit it and put the following in it:
- -=-=-=-=-=-=-START=======
#!/bin/sh
exec icewm-session
- -=-=-=-=-=-=-END=========

All the programs that you want to start automatically should come before the
exec part and should end with an ampersand (&). eg. if you want to run aterm
each time, the file will be:
- -=-=-=-=-=-=-START=======
#!/bin/sh
aterm &
exec icewm-session
- -=-=-=-=-=-=-END=========

It is just like any other shell script.

> regards,
> sans

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