Re: [Hypercontent-users] Hypercontent integration with uPortal 2.5.1

[tom t. <j_l...@ya...>]

Hi,

We are doing a feasibility to determine is
HyperContent suits our needs?

We are new to HyperContent but not to uPortal as we
have successfully finished our development on uPortal
2.5.1. 

But after reading some of the blobs, we have come to a
situation to ask ARE THESE POSSIBLE or not.?

Let me explain....

We have developed PORLETS using jsps. We do not have
any other XML or Webproxy channel developed. The
requirement is some of our jps got some
contents(static) in between that is provided by
Content Providers. The content Providers need to
change the content of these quite often. We can
seperate this piece and put as a jsp include (if
need). What we need is put this piece on Hypercontent
and refer it as a resource id from the parent jsp
(which is on uPortal). The ultimate rendering is done
at uPortal level.

Is this faciliated by the HyperContent 2.0. Right now
we do not want to host the entire site on HyperConent
as not everything is static rest of it will be on
Subverstion. We only want to exposed things which will
be changed by the content providers. We want to keep
uPortal as the main Rendering point.


Is this something possible.?




--- al <al...@bi...> wrote:

> Hi Paul,
> I've embedded some responses below.
> 
> On Thu, 31 Aug 2006 09:54:55 -0700, Paul Howard
> wrote
> 
> > * How exactly do these two products work together?
> 
> As Carl pointed out, there is no tight or required
> coupling between uPortal and HyperContent 2.  You 
> can achieve single sign-on between the two using
> CAS, and you can use HyperContent to manage 
> static or dynamic content that will be published as
> a Web Proxy or XML channel in uPortal; this is 
> done by pointing uPortal to the URL of the content
> in HyperContent, or to the URL of a static build of 
> that content produced by HyperContent.
> 
> > 
> > * How much do I need to learn about uPortal in
> general and our  
> > installation of it in particular in order to grok
> Hypercontent?
> 
> No knowledge of uPortal is required to grok
> HyperContent; it is required only if you desire to 
> integrate some of the content into the portal.  See
> above.
> 
> > 
> > * Is the idea to use the CMS to create/edit
> content that is intended 
> >  to be served through a portal channel (e.g., news
> stories, etc.)?
> 
> This is a possible use case, though HC is often used
> to created & edit content that is destined for a 
> regular non-portal site.  You can also publish the
> content to a static site and to an XML format such 
> as RSS for repurposing content into the portal.
> 
> > 
> > * Could it also be used to create/edit mainly
> static content, but  
> > perhaps with a sidebar containing dynamic content
> generated by the  
> > portal (similar to the concept of "modules" in a
> CMS like Drupal)?
> 
> HyperContent was originally developed with the
> intent of producing static content; it is also
> possible 
> to deliver dynamic content thanks to the
> introduction of modal pipelines in HC 2.0.  HC does
> not 
> have a strict notion of "modules", though one can
> take a variety of approaches in the design of XML 
> and XSL to achieve such an effect. Some interesting
> integration can occur between static and 
> dynamic content using AJAX to embed dynamic content
> in a static page.
> 
> > 
> > * How exactly would one go about accomplishing
> either of these  
> > scenarios?
> 
> See above.
> 
> > 
> > * Is there some third way that I'm missing?
> 
> Depends where you want to get!  
> 
> > 
> > The XML/XSLT template design process is also
> something of a mystery  
> > to me. Is there a good tutorial somewhere for
> someone who already  
> > knows how to turn design comps into XHTML CSS
> templates?
> 
> You can try 
> 
> http://www.w3schools.com/xsl/
> 
> Or do a google search for other alternatives. My
> favorite reference is 
> 
> http://www.zvon.org/xxl/XSLTreference/Output/
> 
> but it is not a tutorial!
> 
> > Finally, Hypercontent seems (to my eyes, anyway)
> to be similar in  
> > design and execution to some other (more mature?)
> products like  
> > OpenCMS and Apache's Lenya. Could someone explain
> to me what sets  
> > Hypercontent apart from these other products?
> 
> As CMSs are becoming fairly commoditized, there is a
> tremendous amount of overlap in the 
> functionality of these systems.  There are a few
> features unique to HC, such as vCard editing with 
> LDAP integration and batch image processing
> (resizing & watermarking). From the UI perspective,
> the 
> approach in HC2 of navigating using the site
> preview, with a management bar across the top, is 
> unique and perhaps more user friendly than more
> abstracted directory or node based navigation 
> schemes.  This is supported by anecdotal evidence
> from users who have migrated from HC 1.4 
> (which had exclusively directory-based navigation)
> to 2.0.
> 
> Cheers,
> Alex
> 
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