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From: Carl B. <C.P...@hu...> - 2005-12-01 14:48:45
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Hi Alex I am going to use HyperContent for our University News which is held in the campus portal. Initially, what I though was to have an index page which would generate links to each of the news stories and then use a uportal channel to scrape that content in. But now I'm thinking that perhaps an RSS channel is probably better. Whilst I have set up the ability to create an rss file in hypercontent, the user actually has to do it. Have you produced anything there at Columbia that would produce that RSS file automatically from the site structure in the same way that navigation is created? Thanks Carl -- ************************************ Carl Barrow Systems Integrator e-Services The University of Hull Cottingham Road Hull HU6 7RX Ext. 6838 ************************************ |
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From: Alex V. <av...@co...> - 2005-12-01 15:31:33
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Hi Carl, I actually just set up an RSS feed for the JA-SIG home page, which is being moved to HyperContent (it's not live yet). I set it up to use a navigation template to build a list of the 5 most recent news stories <nav-template sortchildren="by-date" childsortorder="descending" maxchildren="5" > <nav-template pattern="/news/*.xml" /> </nav-template> The XSL to produce the RSS is pretty simple, and I'm happy to share that if you'd like, although it's a little unique in this case because a news item on the JA-SIG site may actually point off-site, so the XML source is probably different than what you're working with. I just used the metadata title, description and date fields to populate each item, and use the title and description of the navigation file for the channel itself. Let me know if you want to see more, I could zip up the JA-SIG home page project so you can have a look at how its set up. Cheers, Alex On Dec 1, 2005, at 9:47 AM, Carl Barrow wrote: > Hi Alex > > I am going to use HyperContent for our University News which is held > in the campus portal. Initially, what I though was to have an index > page which would generate links to each of the news stories and then > use a uportal channel to scrape that content in. But now I'm > thinking that perhaps an RSS channel is probably better. Whilst I > have set up the ability to create an rss file in hypercontent, the > user actually has to do it. Have you produced anything there at > Columbia that would produce that RSS file automatically from the site > structure in the same way that navigation is created? > > Thanks > Carl > > -- > ************************************ > > Carl Barrow > Systems Integrator > e-Services > The University of Hull > Cottingham Road > Hull > HU6 7RX > Ext. 6838 > ************************************ > > > > ------------------------------------------------------- > This SF.net email is sponsored by: Splunk Inc. Do you grep through log > files > for problems? Stop! Download the new AJAX search engine that makes > searching your log files as easy as surfing the web. DOWNLOAD SPLUNK! > http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_id=7637&alloc_id=16865&op=click > _______________________________________________ > Hypercontent-users mailing list > Hyp...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/hypercontent-users > |
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From: Carl B. <C.P...@hu...> - 2005-12-01 16:02:37
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Hi Alex Thats exactly what I want to do here. I'd like to take a look at how you set it up so the JA-SIG home page project would be great as a starting point. I take it this in HC 2? I actually need to move the JA-SIG -UK (http://www.ja-sig.org.uk/) site into Hypercontent over the next few weeks. On another note, the LDAP login module seems to plug in very easilly, I'm just having a few problems with some settings at this end. I'm waiting for someone to get back to me on that. I'll let you know how things go as soon as I have it running. Cheers Carl Alex Vigdor wrote: > Hi Carl, > I actually just set up an RSS feed for the JA-SIG home page, which > is being moved to HyperContent (it's not live yet). I set it up to > use a navigation template to build a list of the 5 most recent news > stories > > <nav-template sortchildren="by-date" childsortorder="descending" > maxchildren="5" > > <nav-template pattern="/news/*.xml" /> > </nav-template> > > The XSL to produce the RSS is pretty simple, and I'm happy to share > that if you'd like, although it's a little unique in this case because > a news item on the JA-SIG site may actually point off-site, so the XML > source is probably different than what you're working with. I just > used the metadata title, description and date fields to populate each > item, and use the title and description of the navigation file for the > channel itself. > > Let me know if you want to see more, I could zip up the JA-SIG home > page project so you can have a look at how its set up. > > Cheers, > Alex > > On Dec 1, 2005, at 9:47 AM, Carl Barrow wrote: > >> Hi Alex >> >> I am going to use HyperContent for our University News which is held >> in the campus portal. Initially, what I though was to have an index >> page which would generate links to each of the news stories and then >> use a uportal channel to scrape that content in. But now I'm >> thinking that perhaps an RSS channel is probably better. Whilst I >> have set up the ability to create an rss file in hypercontent, the >> user actually has to do it. Have you produced anything there at >> Columbia that would produce that RSS file automatically from the site >> structure in the same way that navigation is created? >> >> Thanks >> Carl >> >> -- >> ************************************ >> >> Carl Barrow >> Systems Integrator >> e-Services >> The University of Hull >> Cottingham Road >> Hull >> HU6 7RX >> Ext. 6838 >> ************************************ >> >> >> >> ------------------------------------------------------- >> This SF.net email is sponsored by: Splunk Inc. Do you grep through >> log files >> for problems? Stop! Download the new AJAX search engine that makes >> searching your log files as easy as surfing the web. DOWNLOAD SPLUNK! >> http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_id=7637&alloc_id=16865&op=click >> _______________________________________________ >> Hypercontent-users mailing list >> Hyp...@li... >> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/hypercontent-users >> > > > > ------------------------------------------------------- > This SF.net email is sponsored by: Splunk Inc. Do you grep through log > files > for problems? Stop! Download the new AJAX search engine that makes > searching your log files as easy as surfing the web. DOWNLOAD SPLUNK! > http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_id=7637&alloc_id=16865&op=click > _______________________________________________ > Hypercontent-users mailing list > Hyp...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/hypercontent-users -- ************************************ Carl Barrow Systems Integrator e-Services The University of Hull Cottingham Road Hull HU6 7RX Ext. 6838 ************************************ |
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From: Alex V. <av...@co...> - 2005-12-01 18:16:14
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Hi Carl, I uploaded a zip of the JA-SIG home page to the HyperContent wiki space at https://clearinghouse.ja-sig.org/wiki/pages/viewpage.action?pageId=12492 It is for HC2, and I can't remember whether it has been affected by any of the handful of bug fixes made sine RC1. It uses a new feature of HC2 where you can load one output into another; it loads the RSS that is generated from the News section into the home page where it renders the most recent RSS to HTML. The same logic is used to render the news archive RSS to HTML. I am going to try and cut the final release tomorrow, in time for the JA-SIG conference here. We've been running for a month with no crashes, about 5 restarts for bug fixes, and in that month 30 users have logged in 842 times, registered 156,000 unique page views and published 26,494 pages. We're about 1/3 migrated from v1.4 . . . I'll post the LDAP login module source up to the wiki as well, in case you need to tinker with it. Cheers, Alex On Dec 1, 2005, at 11:01 AM, Carl Barrow wrote: > Hi Alex > > Thats exactly what I want to do here. I'd like to take a look at how > you set it up so the JA-SIG home page project would be great as a > starting point. I take it this in HC 2? I actually need to move the > JA-SIG -UK (http://www.ja-sig.org.uk/) site into Hypercontent over > the next few weeks. > > On another note, the LDAP login module seems to plug in very > easilly, I'm just having a few problems with some settings at this > end. I'm waiting for someone to get back to me on that. I'll let you > know how things go as soon as I have it running. > > Cheers > Carl > > > > Alex Vigdor wrote: > >> Hi Carl, >> I actually just set up an RSS feed for the JA-SIG home page, >> which is being moved to HyperContent (it's not live yet). I set it >> up to use a navigation template to build a list of the 5 most recent >> news stories >> >> <nav-template sortchildren="by-date" childsortorder="descending" >> maxchildren="5" > >> <nav-template pattern="/news/*.xml" /> >> </nav-template> >> >> The XSL to produce the RSS is pretty simple, and I'm happy to share >> that if you'd like, although it's a little unique in this case >> because a news item on the JA-SIG site may actually point off-site, >> so the XML source is probably different than what you're working >> with. I just used the metadata title, description and date fields to >> populate each item, and use the title and description of the >> navigation file for the channel itself. >> >> Let me know if you want to see more, I could zip up the JA-SIG home >> page project so you can have a look at how its set up. >> >> Cheers, >> Alex >> >> On Dec 1, 2005, at 9:47 AM, Carl Barrow wrote: >> >>> Hi Alex >>> >>> I am going to use HyperContent for our University News which is held >>> in the campus portal. Initially, what I though was to have an index >>> page which would generate links to each of the news stories and >>> then use a uportal channel to scrape that content in. But now I'm >>> thinking that perhaps an RSS channel is probably better. Whilst I >>> have set up the ability to create an rss file in hypercontent, the >>> user actually has to do it. Have you produced anything there at >>> Columbia that would produce that RSS file automatically from the >>> site structure in the same way that navigation is created? >>> >>> Thanks >>> Carl >>> >>> -- >>> ************************************ >>> >>> Carl Barrow >>> Systems Integrator >>> e-Services >>> The University of Hull >>> Cottingham Road >>> Hull >>> HU6 7RX >>> Ext. 6838 >>> ************************************ >>> >>> >>> >>> ------------------------------------------------------- >>> This SF.net email is sponsored by: Splunk Inc. Do you grep through >>> log files >>> for problems? Stop! Download the new AJAX search engine that makes >>> searching your log files as easy as surfing the web. DOWNLOAD >>> SPLUNK! >>> http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_id=7637&alloc_id=16865&op=click >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Hypercontent-users mailing list >>> Hyp...@li... >>> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/hypercontent-users >>> >> >> >> >> ------------------------------------------------------- >> This SF.net email is sponsored by: Splunk Inc. Do you grep through >> log files >> for problems? Stop! Download the new AJAX search engine that makes >> searching your log files as easy as surfing the web. DOWNLOAD >> SPLUNK! >> http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_id=7637&alloc_id=16865&op=click >> _______________________________________________ >> Hypercontent-users mailing list >> Hyp...@li... >> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/hypercontent-users > > > -- > ************************************ > > Carl Barrow > Systems Integrator > e-Services > The University of Hull > Cottingham Road > Hull > HU6 7RX > Ext. 6838 > ************************************ > > |
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From: Carl B. <C.P...@hu...> - 2005-12-02 15:03:53
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Thanks Alex, I've set that up with basic templates and it's working great here, Once I've added the Uni visuals to it should work well the the new Uni homepage. Cheers Carl Alex Vigdor wrote: > Hi Carl, > I uploaded a zip of the JA-SIG home page to the HyperContent wiki > space at > > https://clearinghouse.ja-sig.org/wiki/pages/viewpage.action?pageId=12492 > > It is for HC2, and I can't remember whether it has been affected by > any of the handful of bug fixes made sine RC1. It uses a new feature > of HC2 where you can load one output into another; it loads the RSS > that is generated from the News section into the home page where it > renders the most recent RSS to HTML. The same logic is used to render > the news archive RSS to HTML. I am going to try and cut the final > release tomorrow, in time for the JA-SIG conference here. We've been > running for a month with no crashes, about 5 restarts for bug fixes, > and in that month 30 users have logged in 842 times, registered > 156,000 unique page views and published 26,494 pages. We're about 1/3 > migrated from v1.4 . . . > > I'll post the LDAP login module source up to the wiki as well, in case > you need to tinker with it. > > Cheers, > Alex > > On Dec 1, 2005, at 11:01 AM, Carl Barrow wrote: > >> Hi Alex >> >> Thats exactly what I want to do here. I'd like to take a look at how >> you set it up so the JA-SIG home page project would be great as a >> starting point. I take it this in HC 2? I actually need to move the >> JA-SIG -UK (http://www.ja-sig.org.uk/) site into Hypercontent over >> the next few weeks. >> >> On another note, the LDAP login module seems to plug in very >> easilly, I'm just having a few problems with some settings at this >> end. I'm waiting for someone to get back to me on that. I'll let >> you know how things go as soon as I have it running. >> >> Cheers >> Carl >> >> >> >> Alex Vigdor wrote: >> >>> Hi Carl, >>> I actually just set up an RSS feed for the JA-SIG home page, >>> which is being moved to HyperContent (it's not live yet). I set it >>> up to use a navigation template to build a list of the 5 most recent >>> news stories >>> >>> <nav-template sortchildren="by-date" childsortorder="descending" >>> maxchildren="5" > >>> <nav-template pattern="/news/*.xml" /> >>> </nav-template> >>> >>> The XSL to produce the RSS is pretty simple, and I'm happy to share >>> that if you'd like, although it's a little unique in this case >>> because a news item on the JA-SIG site may actually point off-site, >>> so the XML source is probably different than what you're working >>> with. I just used the metadata title, description and date fields >>> to populate each item, and use the title and description of the >>> navigation file for the channel itself. >>> >>> Let me know if you want to see more, I could zip up the JA-SIG home >>> page project so you can have a look at how its set up. >>> >>> Cheers, >>> Alex >>> >>> On Dec 1, 2005, at 9:47 AM, Carl Barrow wrote: >>> >>>> Hi Alex >>>> >>>> I am going to use HyperContent for our University News which is >>>> held in the campus portal. Initially, what I though was to have an >>>> index page which would generate links to each of the news stories >>>> and then use a uportal channel to scrape that content in. But >>>> now I'm thinking that perhaps an RSS channel is probably better. >>>> Whilst I have set up the ability to create an rss file in >>>> hypercontent, the user actually has to do it. Have you produced >>>> anything there at Columbia that would produce that RSS file >>>> automatically from the site structure in the same way that >>>> navigation is created? >>>> >>>> Thanks >>>> Carl >>>> >>>> -- >>>> ************************************ >>>> >>>> Carl Barrow >>>> Systems Integrator >>>> e-Services >>>> The University of Hull >>>> Cottingham Road >>>> Hull >>>> HU6 7RX >>>> Ext. 6838 >>>> ************************************ >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> ------------------------------------------------------- >>>> This SF.net email is sponsored by: Splunk Inc. Do you grep through >>>> log files >>>> for problems? Stop! Download the new AJAX search engine that makes >>>> searching your log files as easy as surfing the web. DOWNLOAD >>>> SPLUNK! >>>> http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_id=7637&alloc_id=16865&op=click >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Hypercontent-users mailing list >>>> Hyp...@li... >>>> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/hypercontent-users >>>> >>> >>> >>> >>> ------------------------------------------------------- >>> This SF.net email is sponsored by: Splunk Inc. Do you grep through >>> log files >>> for problems? Stop! Download the new AJAX search engine that makes >>> searching your log files as easy as surfing the web. DOWNLOAD SPLUNK! >>> http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_id=7637&alloc_id=16865&op=click >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Hypercontent-users mailing list >>> Hyp...@li... >>> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/hypercontent-users >> >> >> >> -- >> ************************************ >> >> Carl Barrow >> Systems Integrator >> e-Services >> The University of Hull >> Cottingham Road >> Hull >> HU6 7RX >> Ext. 6838 >> ************************************ >> >> > > > > ------------------------------------------------------- > This SF.net email is sponsored by: Splunk Inc. Do you grep through log > files > for problems? Stop! Download the new AJAX search engine that makes > searching your log files as easy as surfing the web. DOWNLOAD SPLUNK! > http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_id=7637&alloc_id=16865&op=click > _______________________________________________ > Hypercontent-users mailing list > Hyp...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/hypercontent-users -- ************************************ Carl Barrow Systems Integrator e-Services The University of Hull Cottingham Road Hull HU6 7RX Ext. 6838 ************************************ |
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From: John F. <ja...@co...> - 2005-12-01 18:33:55
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At 11:01 AM 12/1/2005, Carl Barrow wrote: >Hi Alex > >Thats exactly what I want to do here. I'd like to take a look at how you >set it up so the JA-SIG home page project would be great as a starting point. If you want to see what the new site looks like...go here (temporary URL). http://clearinghouse.ja-sig.org:10080/ TO ALEX: I just noticed that the "Visit the news archive" link seems to be broken (I just fixed it by adding text/html as the content type for the first output element in for the News Archive xml-doc in the project definitions file). If you built a zip for download recently you should do it again. >I take it this in HC 2? I actually need to move the JA-SIG -UK >(http://www.ja-sig.org.uk/) site into Hypercontent over the next few weeks. When you do that, let me know in case I need to change any links on the new JA-SIG HC site. While Alex did most of the work setting it up I'm going to be maintaining it. >On another note, the LDAP login module seems to plug in very easilly, >I'm just having a few problems with some settings at this end. I'm >waiting for someone to get back to me on that. I'll let you know how >things go as soon as I have it running. > >Cheers >Carl > > > >Alex Vigdor wrote: > >>Hi Carl, >> I actually just set up an RSS feed for the JA-SIG home page, which >> is being moved to HyperContent (it's not live yet). I set it up to use >> a navigation template to build a list of the 5 most recent news stories >> >><nav-template sortchildren="by-date" childsortorder="descending" >>maxchildren="5" > >> <nav-template pattern="/news/*.xml" /> >></nav-template> >> >>The XSL to produce the RSS is pretty simple, and I'm happy to share that >>if you'd like, although it's a little unique in this case because a news >>item on the JA-SIG site may actually point off-site, so the XML source is >>probably different than what you're working with. I just used the >>metadata title, description and date fields to populate each item, and >>use the title and description of the navigation file for the channel itself. >> >>Let me know if you want to see more, I could zip up the JA-SIG home page >>project so you can have a look at how its set up. >> >>Cheers, >> Alex >> >>On Dec 1, 2005, at 9:47 AM, Carl Barrow wrote: >> >>>Hi Alex >>> >>>I am going to use HyperContent for our University News which is held in >>>the campus portal. Initially, what I though was to have an index >>>page which would generate links to each of the news stories and then >>>use a uportal channel to scrape that content in. But now I'm thinking >>>that perhaps an RSS channel is probably better. Whilst I have set up >>>the ability to create an rss file in hypercontent, the user actually has >>>to do it. Have you produced anything there at Columbia that would >>>produce that RSS file automatically from the site structure in the same >>>way that navigation is created? >>> >>>Thanks >>>Carl >>> >>>-- >>>************************************ >>> >>>Carl Barrow >>>Systems Integrator >>>e-Services >>>The University of Hull >>>Cottingham Road >>>Hull >>>HU6 7RX >>>Ext. 6838 >>>************************************ >>> >>> >>> >>>------------------------------------------------------- >>>This SF.net email is sponsored by: Splunk Inc. Do you grep through log files >>>for problems? Stop! Download the new AJAX search engine that makes >>>searching your log files as easy as surfing the web. DOWNLOAD SPLUNK! >>>http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_id=7637&alloc_id=16865&op=click >>>_______________________________________________ >>>Hypercontent-users mailing list >>>Hyp...@li... >>>https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/hypercontent-users >> >> >> >>------------------------------------------------------- >>This SF.net email is sponsored by: Splunk Inc. Do you grep through log files >>for problems? Stop! Download the new AJAX search engine that makes >>searching your log files as easy as surfing the web. DOWNLOAD SPLUNK! >>http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_id=7637&alloc_id=16865&op=click >>_______________________________________________ >>Hypercontent-users mailing list >>Hyp...@li... >>https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/hypercontent-users > > >-- >************************************ > >Carl Barrow >Systems Integrator >e-Services >The University of Hull >Cottingham Road >Hull >HU6 7RX >Ext. 6838 >************************************ > > > >------------------------------------------------------- >This SF.net email is sponsored by: Splunk Inc. Do you grep through log files >for problems? Stop! Download the new AJAX search engine that makes >searching your log files as easy as surfing the web. DOWNLOAD SPLUNK! >http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_id=7637&alloc_id=16865&op=click >_______________________________________________ >Hypercontent-users mailing list >Hyp...@li... >https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/hypercontent-users |
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From: Alex V. <av...@co...> - 2005-12-01 19:00:19
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On Dec 1, 2005, at 1:33 PM, John Fereira wrote: > > TO ALEX: I just noticed that the "Visit the news archive" link seems > to be broken (I just fixed it by adding text/html as the content type > for the first output element in for the News Archive xml-doc in the > project definitions file). If you built a zip for download recently > you should do it again. Thanks for catching that error. I cleaned up a few more bad content-type attributes, all my fault to begin with, and added an "ignore-directory" for "/manual/" so we don't get any publishing errors. I zipped up the project with the fixes and posted it on the Wiki. Alex |
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From: John F. <ja...@co...> - 2005-12-02 16:34:50
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At 01:59 PM 12/1/2005, Alex Vigdor wrote: >On Dec 1, 2005, at 1:33 PM, John Fereira wrote: >> >>TO ALEX: I just noticed that the "Visit the news archive" link seems to >>be broken (I just fixed it by adding text/html as the content type for >>the first output element in for the News Archive xml-doc in the project >>definitions file). If you built a zip for download recently you should >>do it again. > >Thanks for catching that error. I cleaned up a few more bad content-type >attributes, all my fault to begin with, and added an "ignore-directory" >for "/manual/" so we don't get any publishing errors. I zipped up the >project with the fixes and posted it on the Wiki. I was going to ask about the usage of ignore-directory. For the ja-sig site I want to be able to manage and publish files with the following path /conferences/*/*.xml. However, during the development of a new conference I still want to use hypercontent to edit/manage the conferences related files (i.e. conferences/06summer/*.xml) but I don't want them published until they're ready. How can I do that. |
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From: Alex V. <av...@co...> - 2005-12-02 16:48:10
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Hi John, The way we usually handle sections that are not ready to go live is to "hide" the entry point file, e.g. conferences/06summer/index.xml. The hide function is available on the revisions screen. This prevents that conference page from showing up in any automatically generated navigation, but does not prevent the other pages from being published - they simply aren't linked from anywhere. This has worked fine for us, but if you would like to see the ability to prevent an entire directory from being published at all, please enter it as a feature request in Jira. Alex On Dec 2, 2005, at 11:34 AM, John Fereira wrote: > At 01:59 PM 12/1/2005, Alex Vigdor wrote: > >> On Dec 1, 2005, at 1:33 PM, John Fereira wrote: >>> >>> TO ALEX: I just noticed that the "Visit the news archive" link >>> seems to be broken (I just fixed it by adding text/html as the >>> content type for the first output element in for the News Archive >>> xml-doc in the project definitions file). If you built a zip for >>> download recently you should do it again. >> >> Thanks for catching that error. I cleaned up a few more bad >> content-type attributes, all my fault to begin with, and added an >> "ignore-directory" for "/manual/" so we don't get any publishing >> errors. I zipped up the project with the fixes and posted it on the >> Wiki. > > I was going to ask about the usage of ignore-directory. > > For the ja-sig site I want to be able to manage and publish files with > the following path /conferences/*/*.xml. However, during the > development of a new conference I still want to use hypercontent to > edit/manage the conferences related files (i.e. > conferences/06summer/*.xml) but I don't want them published until > they're ready. How can I do that. > |
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