Re: [Hwgui-developers] suggestion to Admins

[Maurizio la C. <m.l...@gm...>]

Hi,

2012/9/27 oleksa <m.o...@uk...>

> Hi!
>
> In the first thanks for responce.
>
> You're welcome.

> .....
> I'm wrote before about the situations near the hwgui development, change
> not tested before commit to svn, they does for their needs, without discuss
> on dev list.
>

Yes, I know and remember that problem.
In effects the hwgui development, apart some marginal contribution,
currently is made only by Basso.
This was a great aid for the project as it was languishing after the Kresin
lack, but caused much problems because:
a. Basso is a vulcanic developer, but no devoted to strong sharing his ideas
b. most of his development (of Basso, of course) is targeted to integrate
his designer (an alternative to the one in the repository) and this tool is
shared by Basso only in the executable format, not in source. So, any
action is not discussed and concerted with group but is first tested to be
compatible with the designer (this mainly is what induced me to stop to
develop in HwGUI)
c. the initial framework is largely changed and the code isn't more easily
readable to the people using the Kresin skeleton

I don't think that hwgui is a stable now for the next release (maybe for
> xHarbour), and dev list not closed for discuss that. And this proves what I
> said - their needs.
>

I don't would you forget, anyway, the importance of Basso contribution in
making alive the project.


> I read this message, and i read the next:
> -----
> You will recieve another email when that import is complete. That means
> that you and any other developers should do a fresh checkout using the new
> repository location when it is ready (see the "code" tab). Please be aware
> that large repositories may take a long time.
> -----
> do you receive the next email from sf for the ready status of that? I not.
>
>
Yes, and I thought also other members did receive it:

Your cloned repository code in project hwgui is now ready for use.
> Old repository url: http://hwgui.svn.sourceforge.net/svnroot/hwgui
> New repository checkout command: svn checkout --username=mlacecilia
> svn+ssh://mlacecilia@svn.code.sf.net/p/hwgui/code/trunk hwgui-code
> You and any other developers should do a fresh checkout using the new
> repository location.


Obvioulsy the right folder to point is:
  svn.code.sf.net/p/hwgui/code/trunk/hwgui


> The project is going through difficult times, but that does not mean that
> we should make any changes to make it appear that the project alive.
>
>
I agree.


>
> And another thing, I think administrators should take care of the project,
> monitor, advise, coordinate or not? So, I think it is better to experiment
> start another branch or create a new folk of project, maybe this will give
> new life to project.
> I'm understand that we are the people, and sometimes we have no free time,
> but would like to be a better for the project.
>
>
I'm sorry, but my contribution was mainly in taking over administration
when the project frozen because Kresin lacked and in driving Basso to
manage the commits as best as possible.
I worked a lot of time committing and documenting the patches made by Basso
(some developer was laughing at me...), When he started to do by itself I
abandoned HwGUI development for the reasons above. Currently, I use for
some business projects an old version partially patched by me (and very
uncompatible with the current code) .
I understand your wishes, but are the same I had many time ago. Now, I
think, the project could take new life only restarting as you said,
counting on the participation of a larger group than one single guy.

BR
Maurizio