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From: Alexander S.K. <al...@be...> - 2013-06-20 12:59:00
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I prepare sources for uploading them to github, it's a good time to change the directories structure, if needed. Are there any suggestions ? Regards, Alexander. |
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From: Luiz R. C. <lu...@xh...> - 2013-06-20 13:10:37
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Alex Please, no github, stay all hwgui only on SVN Regards Luiz 2013/6/20 Alexander S.Kresin <al...@be...> > I prepare sources for uploading them to github, it's a good time to > change the directories structure, if needed. Are there any suggestions ? > > Regards, Alexander. > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > This SF.net email is sponsored by Windows: > > Build for Windows Store. > > http://p.sf.net/sfu/windows-dev2dev > _______________________________________________ > Hwgui-developers mailing list > Hwg...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/hwgui-developers > |
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From: oleksa <m.o...@uk...> - 2013-06-20 13:29:36
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Hi! Can you explain your choice of only SVN? Regards, Alexey Myronenko --- Оригінальне повідомлення --- Від кого: "Luiz Rafael Culik" <lu...@xh...> Дата: 20 червня 2013, 16:10:40 > Alex > > Please, no github, stay all hwgui only on SVN > > > Regards > > Luiz > > > > > > > > 2013/6/20 Alexander S.Kresin <al...@be...> > > I prepare sources for uploading them to github, it's a good time to > > > > change the directories structure, if needed. Are there any suggestions ? > > > > > > Regards, Alexander. > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > > > This SF.net email is sponsored by Windows: > > > > > > Build for Windows Store. > > > > http://p.sf.net/sfu/windows-dev2dev > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > Hwgui-developers mailing list > > Hwg...@li... > > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/hwgui-developers > > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > This SF.net email is sponsored by Windows: > > Build for Windows Store. > > http://p.sf.net/sfu/windows-dev2dev > > _______________________________________________ > Hwgui-developers mailing list > Hwg...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/hwgui-developers |
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From: Alexander S.K. <al...@be...> - 2013-06-21 06:08:10
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Luiz, please, clarify your point. Does you suggest to leave all as it is and work on current SVN branch, or you mean that it is better to use for the new HwGUI repository only the Sourceforge SVN ? I never like the idea to have two HwGUI, but here is the reality: I'm not ready more to dig in complicated and labyrinthine current HwGUI code in SVN to clean it up and look for bugs. In a last half of year I investigated the sources few times, looking for a bugs, reported here, and every time I had a feeling that it's better to "cut the Gordian cnot" - to replace the whole file with its more simple old version. For me much more simple to clean 2.16c and then introduce there some of enhancements of current version,if needed, but, probably, in a bit other implementation. That's why I use 2.16c for myself and I want it to be a base for further HwGUI development. And for me the question is where to place 2.16c sources. CVS, SVN, GIT, ... - the choice isn't important for me. We all worked with CVS few years ( letodb is still under CVS ) and I hadn't problems with it, moreover, SVN is worse for me because of a bigger size of a local repository. Sourceforge, github or something else ? I haven't much experience with github, excepting a passive work with a Harbour repository. Are there real problems with it ? Sourceforge isn't an ideal, too. It becames more and more slow, and there appears problems which aren't solved by their team One of them you will see, if you visit the HwGUI or LetoDB page - the latest activity is marked as of 2012-12-07, while there was many code uploading and some other changes since this time. I reported about this to Sourceforge a couple of months ago and got a link to some kind of discussion board, where this problem was noted as awating of solving for a long time already... So, what's your point about these all ? Regards, Alexander. > Alex > > Please, no github, stay all hwgui only on SVN > > |
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From: oleksa <m.o...@uk...> - 2013-06-20 13:38:22
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What about remove (?)utils/hwmake and utils/hwreport dirs? And move gtk/hfrmtmpl.prg to gtk/procmisc/hfrmtmpl.prg like in source? Regards, Alexey Myronenko --- Оригінальне повідомлення --- Від кого: "Alexander S.Kresin" <al...@be...> Дата: 20 червня 2013, 15:59:04 > I prepare sources for uploading them to github, it's a good time to > change the directories structure, if needed. Are there any suggestions ? > > Regards, Alexander. > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > This SF.net email is sponsored by Windows: > > Build for Windows Store. > > http://p.sf.net/sfu/windows-dev2dev > _______________________________________________ > Hwgui-developers mailing list > Hwg...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/hwgui-developers |
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From: Alexander S.K. <al...@be...> - 2013-06-21 06:26:15
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oleksa writes: > What about remove (?)utils/hwmake and utils/hwreport dirs? And move gtk/hfrmtmpl.prg to gtk/procmisc/hfrmtmpl.prg like in source? > Hwmake doesn't present in 2.16c, but we may add it from current SVN to contrib/, I think. BTW, does it work ? Hwreport ? I don't know, I didn't think about it. What about the hfrmtmpl.prg, it was supposed to be identical in both Windows and GTK versions and the fact that it is separate in gtk/ I consider as temporary. But when I was asking about the directory structure, I had in mind more serios changes. I don't like, for example, that procmisc/ and hbxml/, which are used in both windows and gtk versions, are placed in the source/, which is a source for windows. Maybe it has a sense to move gtk/ to source/ and create in source/ new directory, winapi/, for example, for windows version sources. And move the gtk/samples to samples/gtk ? Regards, Alexander. |
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From: Maurizio la C. <m.l...@gm...> - 2013-06-21 06:52:51
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Hi Alex,
2013/6/21 Alexander S.Kresin <al...@be...>
> oleksa writes:
> > What about remove (?)utils/hwmake and utils/hwreport dirs? And move
> gtk/hfrmtmpl.prg to gtk/procmisc/hfrmtmpl.prg like in source?
> >
>
> Hwmake doesn't present in 2.16c, but we may add it from current SVN to
> contrib/, I think. BTW, does it work ?
> Hwreport ? I don't know, I didn't think about it.
> What about the hfrmtmpl.prg, it was supposed to be identical in both
> Windows and GTK versions and the fact that it is separate in gtk/ I
> consider as temporary.
>
> But when I was asking about the directory structure, I had in mind
> more serios changes. I don't like, for example, that procmisc/ and
> hbxml/, which are used in both windows and gtk versions, are placed in
> the source/, which is a source for windows.
> Maybe it has a sense to move gtk/ to source/ and create in source/ new
> directory, winapi/, for example, for windows version sources. And move
> the gtk/samples to samples/gtk ?
>
It's just what I suggested in my previous post on this thread.
About procmisc and hbxml, a solution could be to add another folder below
source and samples, i.e. "common"
So the new structure for both folders should be:
\source( and same for samples)
\wapi
\....
\gtk
\....
\common
\procmisc
\hbxml
BR
Maurizio
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From: Luiz R. C. <lu...@xh...> - 2013-06-21 08:41:41
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Alex I prefer an new MAIN Branch on SVN. the current code, should be tagged, and all new one be on SVN head. Regards Luiz 2013/6/21 Maurizio la Cecilia <m.l...@gm...> > Hi Alex, > > > 2013/6/21 Alexander S.Kresin <al...@be...> > > oleksa writes: >> > What about remove (?)utils/hwmake and utils/hwreport dirs? And move >> gtk/hfrmtmpl.prg to gtk/procmisc/hfrmtmpl.prg like in source? >> > >> >> Hwmake doesn't present in 2.16c, but we may add it from current SVN to >> contrib/, I think. BTW, does it work ? >> Hwreport ? I don't know, I didn't think about it. >> What about the hfrmtmpl.prg, it was supposed to be identical in both >> Windows and GTK versions and the fact that it is separate in gtk/ I >> consider as temporary. >> >> But when I was asking about the directory structure, I had in mind >> more serios changes. I don't like, for example, that procmisc/ and >> hbxml/, which are used in both windows and gtk versions, are placed in >> the source/, which is a source for windows. >> Maybe it has a sense to move gtk/ to source/ and create in source/ new >> directory, winapi/, for example, for windows version sources. And move >> the gtk/samples to samples/gtk ? >> > > It's just what I suggested in my previous post on this thread. > About procmisc and hbxml, a solution could be to add another folder below > source and samples, i.e. "common" > So the new structure for both folders should be: > > \source( and same for samples) > \wapi > \.... > \gtk > \.... > \common > \procmisc > \hbxml > > BR > Maurizio > > >> > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > This SF.net email is sponsored by Windows: > > Build for Windows Store. > > http://p.sf.net/sfu/windows-dev2dev > _______________________________________________ > Hwgui-developers mailing list > Hwg...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/hwgui-developers > > |
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From: Alexander S.K. <al...@be...> - 2013-06-21 09:34:06
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Luiz Rafael Culik writes: > I prefer an new MAIN Branch on SVN. the current code, should be tagged, > and all new one be on SVN head. > As I wrote, this isn't a question of great importance for me, what to use, SVN, GIT or even CVS. But what do you have against GIT ? I found it fast and reliable. I've created an organization in github ( HwGUI ), we may place the repository there. All current admins and, maybe someone else, could be admins there, too. BTW, I'd like to hear more opinions about preferred place for HwGUI. Regards, Alexander. |
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From: oleksa <m.o...@uk...> - 2013-06-20 13:50:53
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What do you mean about team of winners? Regards, Alexey Myronenko --- Оригінальне повідомлення --- Від кого: "Luiz Rafael Culik" <lu...@xh...> Дата: 20 червня 2013, 16:38:26 > Why change the team of winners, > change service, need to change all configurations need to download and compile. > > > and personaly, for me svn is more stable then git > > > > if needed to change, then i go for mercurial > > > > Regards > > Luiz > > > > > > > > > > > > > 2013/6/20 oleksa <m.o...@uk...> > > Hi! > > > > > > Can you explain your choice of only SVN? > > > > > > Regards, > > > > Alexey Myronenko > > > > > > --- Оригінальне повідомлення --- > > > > Від кого: "Luiz Rafael Culik" <lu...@xh...> > > > > Дата: 20 червня 2013, 16:10:40 > > > > > > > > > Alex > > > > > > > > > > Please, no github, stay all hwgui only on SVN > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards > > > > > > > > > > Luiz > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 2013/6/20 Alexander S.Kresin <al...@be...> > > > > > > I prepare sources for uploading them to github, it's a good time to > > > > > > > > > > > > change the directories structure, if needed. Are there any suggestions ? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards, Alexander. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > > > > > > > > > > > This SF.net email is sponsored by Windows: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Build for Windows Store. > > > > > > > > > > > > http://p.sf.net/sfu/windows-dev2dev > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > > > > > > > > > Hwgui-developers mailing list > > > > > > Hwg...@li... > > > > > > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/hwgui-developers > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > > > > This SF.net email is sponsored by Windows: > > > > > > > > > > Build for Windows Store. > > > > > > > > > > http://p.sf.net/sfu/windows-dev2dev > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > > Hwgui-developers mailing list > > > > > Hwg...@li... > > > > > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/hwgui-developers > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > > > This SF.net email is sponsored by Windows: > > > > > > Build for Windows Store. > > > > http://p.sf.net/sfu/windows-dev2dev > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > Hwgui-developers mailing list > > Hwg...@li... > > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/hwgui-developers |
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From: Maurizio la C. <m.l...@gm...> - 2013-06-20 14:20:07
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Hi all,
Il 20/06/2013 15:38, oleksa ha scritto:
> What about remove (?)utils/hwmake and utils/hwreport dirs? And move gtk/hfrmtmpl.prg to gtk/procmisc/hfrmtmpl.prg like in source?
Maybe I can agree on hwmake, but hwreport contains some good example of
hwGUI code and offers a backward bridge to Clipper users.
My suggestion is to take the occasion to change some not-english named
functions and variables to english language (i.e., stroka, etc.) to
enhance the readability of sources for not eastern-European people.
Another step to readability would be to hbformat the sources.
About the repository tree, maybe the gtk folder should be below the
source and samples folders, but this would need a "wapi" subfolder to
separate the code:
\hwgui
\source
\wapi
\........
\gtk
\.....
\samples
\wapi
\....
\gtk
\....
\.....
I don't know if it's better, but sure more compliant with multiplatform
feature.
Just my thought about.
BR
Maurizio
> Regards,
> Alexey Myronenko
>
> --- Оригінальне повідомлення ---
> Від кого: "Alexander S.Kresin" <al...@be...>
> Дата: 20 червня 2013, 15:59:04
>
>
>> I prepare sources for uploading them to github, it's a good time to
>> change the directories structure, if needed. Are there any suggestions ?
>>
>> Regards, Alexander.
>>
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From: oleksa <m.o...@uk...> - 2013-06-20 15:25:13
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--- Оригінальне повідомлення --- Від кого: "Maurizio la Cecilia" <m.l...@gm...> Дата: 20 червня 2013, 17:19:53 > Hi all, > > Il 20/06/2013 15:38, oleksa ha scritto: > > > > What about remove (?)utils/hwmake and utils/hwreport dirs? And move gtk/hfrmtmpl.prg to gtk/procmisc/hfrmtmpl.prg like in source? > Maybe I can agree on hwmake, but hwreport contains some good example > of hwGUI code and offers a backward bridge to Clipper users. In that case maybe better to cut some good example from hwreport and make self contained example for users, than keep hwreport compatible with harbour abd hwgui. > > > My suggestion is to take the occasion to change some not-english > named functions and variables to english language (i.e., stroka, > etc.) to enhance the readability of sources for not eastern-European > people. > this also applies to the core. Regards, Alexey Myronenko |
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From: Alex S. <ss...@mw...> - 2013-06-21 09:58:42
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Hi > BTW, I'd like to hear more opinions about preferred place for HwGUI. I like GIT, but that is not so important, as I think SourceForge is not doing a great job and github is. -- Regards Alex |
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From: Maurizio la C. <m.l...@gm...> - 2013-06-21 11:16:52
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GIT is better in all aspects, IMHO. SVN isn't bad, but last updates on SourceForge lowered the quality of the interface and of the service. Regards Maurizio 2013/6/21 Alex Strickland <ss...@mw...> > Hi > > > BTW, I'd like to hear more opinions about preferred place for HwGUI. > > I like GIT, but that is not so important, as I think SourceForge is not > doing a great job and github is. > > -- > Regards > Alex > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > This SF.net email is sponsored by Windows: > > Build for Windows Store. > > http://p.sf.net/sfu/windows-dev2dev > _______________________________________________ > Hwgui-developers mailing list > Hwg...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/hwgui-developers > |
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From: oleksa <m.o...@uk...> - 2013-06-21 11:57:08
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Perhaps we create the table with + and - for SVN vs GIT, or others and then make a choice, because we are just saying svn is better or git is better or other is better. For me SVN is known and i use it, and it's enough for me, but git need to learn, understand it logic, for me it's more difficult (perhaps this is not true). In other side, we can try git, as for me we lose a little bit of switching to GIT. In other side, more users just download the library and we can put reference to libs on SVN. Due above, Alexander, and you as a project leader, have a main voice where project will live. (Sorry, if I wrote something unclear) Regards, Alexey Myronenko --- Оригінальне повідомлення --- Від кого: "Maurizio la Cecilia" <m.l...@gm...> Дата: 21 червня 2013, 14:16:59 > GIT is better in all aspects, IMHO.SVN isn't bad, but last updates on SourceForge lowered the quality of the interface and of the service. > Regards > Maurizio > > > > > > > > > 2013/6/21 Alex Strickland <ss...@mw...> > > Hi > > > > > > > BTW, I'd like to hear more opinions about preferred place for HwGUI. > > > > > > I like GIT, but that is not so important, as I think SourceForge is not > > > > doing a great job and github is. > > > > > > -- > > > > Regards > > > > Alex > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > > > This SF.net email is sponsored by Windows: > > > > > > Build for Windows Store. > > > > http://p.sf.net/sfu/windows-dev2dev > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > Hwgui-developers mailing list > > Hwg...@li... > > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/hwgui-developers > > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > This SF.net email is sponsored by Windows: > > Build for Windows Store. > > http://p.sf.net/sfu/windows-dev2dev > > _______________________________________________ > Hwgui-developers mailing list > Hwg...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/hwgui-developers |
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