Content-Type: message/rfc822; name="Re: HTML Validator incompatibility issues with Firebug" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline; filename*0="Re: HTML Validator incompatibility issues with Firebug" Message-ID: <45AEA346.6070806@skynet.be> Date: Wed, 17 Jan 2007 23:29:26 +0100 From: Marc Gueury User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.9 (Windows/20061207) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "P.F.Lammertsma" Subject: Re: HTML Validator incompatibility issues with Firebug References: <45A6A771.7000400@students.uu.nl> In-Reply-To: <45A6A771.7000400@students.uu.nl> Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="------------020004080800050707050104" This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------020004080800050707050104 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi Paul, P.F.Lammertsma wrote: > Dear Marc Gueury, > > > First off, I would like to emphasize my appreciation for your > excellent Firefox add-on, HTML Validator. As a web developer, I rely > on validation results to provide proper, well-formed XHTML and CSS. > The add-on not only makes validation a breeze, it simplifies clean-up > and brings everything into perspective in places where I could easily > have overlooked something. Together with the Developper toolbar and > Firebug, it forms the perfect trio for easy debugging and > troubleshooting. Kudos on a job well done! > > It has come to my attention, however, that Firebug and HTML Validator > have some compatibility issues. I've posted a message at Firebug's > discussion group describing the problem (as I originally suspected > Firebug) which you can read here > . > I further researched the topic and blogged about it here > . > > Basically, what it comes down to, is that if I install a fresh version > of Firefox 2.0 with Firebug and HTML Validator, the I'm confronted > with the following problem: (1) all keyboard-based page navigation > (Home, End, Page Up, Page Down and cursor keys) seize to work, (2) > despite having a text field selected, when pressing ' (quote) or / > (forward slash) the Quick Find bar pops up, and (3) when enabling Type > Ahead, despite having a text field selected, Quick Find pops up when I > press any letter or number as well. > > I don't know if the problem lies in Firebug or HTML Validator, but > when they're both installed, I find I have to loose focus on Firefox > and reselect Firefox for the problem to disappear. > Let's try this ! > You can easily reproduce the problem, if you wish, by installing > Firebug next to your extension. Restart Firefox and -- without loosing > focus of Firefox -- browse to a page where you would need to scroll up > and down. Attempt to press Page Up or Page Down and you will most > likely find that nothing happens. The other symptoms should be > observable as well. I emphasize that you should not loose focus of > Firefox as this temporarily solves the problem until restart. > I have Firefox 2.0.0.1 on XP - Html Validator 0.834 and Firebug 0.41. I did surf a little and my keyboard is still working. I never lost the focus on Firefox. Has the author of Firebug found a solution ? Do you know his mail ? Marc > I'm running Firefox 2.0.0.1 on Windows XP Professional without any > other extensions installed (at the moment). > > I'm sure you're awful busy.. nevertheless would it very much add to > the functionality of HTML Validator if you could look into this issue > for the upcoming release. Perhaps a collaboration with Firebug on this > issue isn't a bad idea. > > Thanks for hearing me out! > > > Good luck and best regards, > Paul Lammertsma > --------------020004080800050707050104 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi Paul,

P.F.Lammertsma wrote:
Dear Marc Gueury,


First off, I would like to emphasize my appreciation for your excellent Firefox add-on, HTML Validator. As a web developer, I rely on validation results to provide proper, well-formed XHTML and CSS. The add-on not only makes validation a breeze, it simplifies clean-up and brings everything into perspective in places where I could easily have overlooked something. Together with the Developper toolbar and Firebug, it forms the perfect trio for easy debugging and troubleshooting. Kudos on a job well done!

It has come to my attention, however, that Firebug and HTML Validator have some compatibility issues. I've posted a message at Firebug's discussion group describing the problem (as I originally suspected Firebug) which you can read here. I further researched the topic and blogged about it here.

Basically, what it comes down to, is that if I install a fresh version of Firefox 2.0 with Firebug and HTML Validator, the I'm confronted with the following problem: (1) all keyboard-based page navigation (Home, End, Page Up, Page Down and cursor keys) seize to work, (2) despite having a text field selected, when pressing ' (quote) or / (forward slash) the Quick Find bar pops up, and (3) when enabling Type Ahead, despite having a text field selected, Quick Find pops up when I press any letter or number as well.

I don't know if the problem lies in Firebug or HTML Validator, but when they're both installed, I find I have to loose focus on Firefox and reselect Firefox for the problem to disappear.

Let's try this !
You can easily reproduce the problem, if you wish, by installing Firebug next to your extension. Restart Firefox and -- without loosing focus of Firefox -- browse to a page where you would need to scroll up and down. Attempt to press Page Up or Page Down and you will most likely find that nothing happens. The other symptoms should be observable as well. I emphasize that you should not loose focus of Firefox as this temporarily solves the problem until restart.

I have Firefox 2.0.0.1 on XP - Html Validator 0.834 and Firebug 0.41. I did surf a little and my keyboard is still working.
I never lost the focus on Firefox.

Has the author of Firebug found a solution ? Do you know his mail ?

Marc
I'm running Firefox 2.0.0.1 on Windows XP Professional without any other extensions installed (at the moment).

I'm sure you're awful busy.. nevertheless would it very much add to the functionality of HTML Validator if you could look into this issue for the upcoming release. Perhaps a collaboration with Firebug on this issue isn't a bad idea.

Thanks for hearing me out!


Good luck and best regards,
Paul Lammertsma


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