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From: Rainer D. <rd...@we...> - 2004-12-30 20:34:44
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Hello, I am wondering, if the 2355 device is supported by the hpoj project. It is not listed at all the supported devices list. Thanks, Rainer -- Rainer Dorsch Alzentalstr. 28 D-71083 Herrenberg 07032-919495 Icq: 32550367 |
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From: Till K. <til...@gm...> - 2005-01-05 16:59:52
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Once, the device is most probably compatible to its predecessors and simply works, even without being listed. Second, HPOJ is obsolete. Get HPLIP from http://hpinkjet.sf.net/ and you get a more easy to configure system with more functionality (especially printer maintenance). Till Rainer Dorsch wrote: > I am wondering, if the 2355 device is supported by the hpoj project. It is not > listed at all the supported devices list. |
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From: <ge...@de...> - 2005-01-05 20:53:24
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Le Mercredi 05 Janvier 2005 19:04, Till Kamppeter a =E9crit : > Once, the device is most probably compatible to its predecessors and > simply works, even without being listed. Second, HPOJ is obsolete. Get > HPLIP from http://hpinkjet.sf.net/ and you get a more easy to configure > system with more functionality (especially printer maintenance). > > Till > Well, Till, the pages on linuxprinting.org are still talking about hpijs Example : http://linuxprinting.org/show_printer.cgi?recnum=3DHP-PSC_1210 Perhaps it should be updated ? Thanks Gerard |
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From: Till K. <til...@gm...> - 2005-01-05 20:58:58
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HPLIP contains HPIJS, so the print filter is still HPIJS. But the texts
still talking about HPOJ should really be updated.
Till
Gérard Delafond wrote:
> Le Mercredi 05 Janvier 2005 19:04, Till Kamppeter a écrit :
>
>>Once, the device is most probably compatible to its predecessors and
>>simply works, even without being listed. Second, HPOJ is obsolete. Get
>>HPLIP from http://hpinkjet.sf.net/ and you get a more easy to configure
>>system with more functionality (especially printer maintenance).
>>
>> Till
>>
>
> Well, Till, the pages on linuxprinting.org are still talking about hpijs
> Example :
> http://linuxprinting.org/show_printer.cgi?recnum=HP-PSC_1210
>
> Perhaps it should be updated ?
>
> Thanks
>
> Gerard
>
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From: Thomas R. <t.r...@ne...> - 2005-01-06 12:01:11
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Till Kamppeter schrieb: >HPLIP contains HPIJS, so the print filter is still HPIJS. But the texts >still talking about HPOJ should really be updated. > > Hi, I am a bit confused now: http://hpinkjet.sourceforge.net/productsmf.php lists "HPIJS" as backend solution for the HP Officejet K80, but not "HPLIP". For HPIJS, it shows "no" for USB/Network, and "no" for Service and Fax. By mistake, I first tried to use HPLIP for this printer, which didn't work at all. Now I use the old-style HPOJ solution with USB connection and manual installation of the ptal driver ("ptal init setup"). This works for printing and scanning but there are no service functions, except the small LCD display applet. Can someone clear that up: http://hpinkjet.sourceforge.net/hplip_readme.html states that HPLIP shall be a successor/replacement for the HPOJ package. But, if so, why doesn't it support printing through the USB connection for the K Series? Maybe this type of printer and the USB connection will be supported in later versions of HPLIP? Bye, Thomas -- -------------------------------------------------------------------- THOMAS M. ROTHER * n e t z w i s s e n . d e * D-73728 Esslingen F.R. Germany, European Union * mailto:t.r...@ne... http://www.netzwissen.de * GPG Key from http://wwwkeys.de.pgp.net Fingerprint B208 E204 4249 4635 19B9 B691 3E73 C8B9 1229 DE4C --------------------------------------------------------------------- |
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From: Till K. <til...@gm...> - 2005-01-06 12:47:35
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Cory, David, are there still HP MF devices not supported by HPLIP yet?
Is HPOJ still needed in the distros?
Till
Thomas Rother wrote:
> Till Kamppeter schrieb:
>
>> HPLIP contains HPIJS, so the print filter is still HPIJS. But the
>> texts still talking about HPOJ should really be updated.
>>
>>
> Hi,
> I am a bit confused now: http://hpinkjet.sourceforge.net/productsmf.php
> lists "HPIJS" as backend solution for the HP Officejet K80, but not
> "HPLIP". For HPIJS, it shows "no" for USB/Network, and "no" for Service
> and Fax.
>
> By mistake, I first tried to use HPLIP for this printer, which didn't
> work at all. Now I use the old-style HPOJ solution with USB connection
> and manual installation of the ptal driver ("ptal init setup"). This
> works for printing and scanning but there are no service functions,
> except the small LCD display applet.
>
> Can someone clear that up:
> http://hpinkjet.sourceforge.net/hplip_readme.html states that HPLIP
> shall be a successor/replacement for the HPOJ package. But, if so, why
> doesn't it support printing through the USB connection for the K Series?
> Maybe this type of printer and the USB connection will be supported in
> later versions of HPLIP?
>
> Bye, Thomas
>
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From: Thomas R. <t.r...@ne...> - 2005-01-14 08:00:58
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Hi Cory, maybe you missed this, but we need some clarification on this question from Till: Till Kamppeter schrieb: >Cory, David, are there still HP MF devices not supported by HPLIP yet? >Is HPOJ still needed in the distros? > > Till See also my own statement dd. 6.1.05 concerning my "K80 troubles" - I would really love to see some comments on this ... ;-) Thanks! Thommie -- -------------------------------------------------------------------- THOMAS M. ROTHER * n e t z w i s s e n . d e * D-73728 Esslingen F.R. Germany, European Union * mailto:t.r...@ne... http://www.netzwissen.de * GPG Key from http://wwwkeys.de.pgp.net Fingerprint B208 E204 4249 4635 19B9 B691 3E73 C8B9 1229 DE4C --------------------------------------------------------------------- |
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From: Cory M. <cor...@hp...> - 2005-01-14 18:54:08
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So, the answer is kind of mixed depending on how you look at the question. Inherently, no there aren't any missing support for the USB MFP devices in the driver. However, in the models.xml file there were some missing entries, which I have readded. There will be another release soon with the missing entries added. Cory hplip team On Fri, 2005-01-14 at 08:48 +0100, Thomas Rother wrote: > Hi Cory, > maybe you missed this, but we need some clarification on this question > from Till: > > Till Kamppeter schrieb: > > >Cory, David, are there still HP MF devices not supported by HPLIP yet? > >Is HPOJ still needed in the distros? > > > > Till > > See also my own statement dd. 6.1.05 concerning my "K80 troubles" - I > would really love to see some comments on this ... ;-) > > Thanks! > Thommie |
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From: Joe P. <joe...@sn...> - 2005-01-14 23:35:00
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On Friday 14 January 2005 01:52, Cory Meisch wrote:
> So, the answer is kind of mixed depending on how you look at the
> question. Inherently, no there aren't any missing support for the USB
> MFP devices in the driver. However, in the models.xml file there were
> some missing entries, which I have readded. There will be another
> release soon with the missing entries added.
>
> Cory
> hplip team
>
> On Fri, 2005-01-14 at 08:48 +0100, Thomas Rother wrote:
> > Hi Cory,
> > maybe you missed this, but we need some clarification on this question
> > from Till:
> >
> > Till Kamppeter schrieb:
> > >Cory, David, are there still HP MF devices not supported by HPLIP yet?
> > >Is HPOJ still needed in the distros?
On the hpinkjet "supported devices" page, several multifunction devices have
"Yes" in the "Parallel" column, but according to the installation notes,
HPLIP doesn't support parallel-connected devices ("Note: The HP printing
software supports only USB and network connections. Parallel connections are
not supported.").
If hplip won't support parallel connections, hpoj will still be needed for
all-in-ones that have only a parallel connection. I don't know how many of
them are still in use, but my parallel-only OfficeJet 600 just recently died
after eight years in what I think is a normal home desktop situation.
It would be nice if hplip could support parallel devices. That it does not
(yet?) creates extra work (stop hpoj, start hplip, etc.) for users who have a
parallel-only all-in-one connected to their desktop pc (using hpoj), but also
want to print/scan to a networked device (using hplip).
--
Joe Piolunek
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From: Till K. <til...@gm...> - 2005-01-15 00:14:57
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Joe Piolunek wrote:
> On Friday 14 January 2005 01:52, Cory Meisch wrote:
>
>>So, the answer is kind of mixed depending on how you look at the
>>question. Inherently, no there aren't any missing support for the USB
>>MFP devices in the driver. However, in the models.xml file there were
>>some missing entries, which I have readded. There will be another
>>release soon with the missing entries added.
>>
>>Cory
>>hplip team
>>
>>On Fri, 2005-01-14 at 08:48 +0100, Thomas Rother wrote:
>>
>>>Hi Cory,
>>>maybe you missed this, but we need some clarification on this question
>>>from Till:
>>>
>>>Till Kamppeter schrieb:
>>>
>>>>Cory, David, are there still HP MF devices not supported by HPLIP yet?
>>>>Is HPOJ still needed in the distros?
>
>
> On the hpinkjet "supported devices" page, several multifunction devices have
> "Yes" in the "Parallel" column, but according to the installation notes,
> HPLIP doesn't support parallel-connected devices ("Note: The HP printing
> software supports only USB and network connections. Parallel connections are
> not supported.").
>
> If hplip won't support parallel connections, hpoj will still be needed for
> all-in-ones that have only a parallel connection. I don't know how many of
> them are still in use, but my parallel-only OfficeJet 600 just recently died
> after eight years in what I think is a normal home desktop situation.
>
> It would be nice if hplip could support parallel devices. That it does not
> (yet?) creates extra work (stop hpoj, start hplip, etc.) for users who have a
> parallel-only all-in-one connected to their desktop pc (using hpoj), but also
> want to print/scan to a networked device (using hplip).
>
Cory, I think dropping parallel port support is a bad idea.
As printing maintainer of the Mandrakelinux distribution I also wish
that HPLIP replaces HPOJ COMPLETELY, so that I can take HPOJ from the
distro as soon as possible. I want to avoid having unmaintained software
in the distro and there should also not be two packages fulfilling the
same purpose. Also printerdrake gets big an cluttered if it has to take
into account so many different methods of printer setup.
I also want to let HP's print-only devices print through HPLIP, so that
one can use the inkjet maintenance functions of the toolbox. Nozzle
cleaning and ink level checking would get very expensive if one has to
by an HP JetDirect box for ones parallel printers.
We cannot declare the parallel port as obsolete. Many of our customers
still have parallel-port HP inkjet or multi-function printers.
Till
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From: James B. H. <jh...@vi...> - 2005-01-15 03:42:47
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> Cory, I think dropping parallel port support is a bad idea. Concur roundly. [snip] > I also want to let HP's print-only devices print through HPLIP, so that > one can use the inkjet maintenance functions of the toolbox. Nozzle > cleaning and ink level checking would get very expensive if one has to > by an HP JetDirect box for ones parallel printers. For this reason, but much more for the reason below. (My DJ 520 from 1993 will never die). > We cannot declare the parallel port as obsolete. Many of our customers > still have parallel-port HP inkjet or multi-function printers. My HPOJ 1170C from 1998 stills goes strong, and my year-old OJ 7130 is still a babe in the woods by any comparison. While the 7130 has USB, I steadfastly refuse to use it for any of a number of reasons, and I have the card that uses the LIO port to make a parallel port. This will never change unless/until I am simply forced away from parallel port. But if that happens, I sure don't want it to be because of available software. jbh |
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From: Johannes M. <js...@su...> - 2005-01-17 08:35:02
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Hello, On Jan 15 02:19 Till Kamppeter wrote: > Cory, I think dropping parallel port support is a bad idea. > > As printing maintainer of the Mandrakelinux distribution I also wish that > HPLIP replaces HPOJ COMPLETELY, so that I can take HPOJ from the distro as > soon as possible. I want to avoid having unmaintained software in the distro > and there should also not be two packages fulfilling the same purpose. Also > printerdrake gets big an cluttered if it has to take into account so many > different methods of printer setup. > > I also want to let HP's print-only devices print through HPLIP, so that one > can use the inkjet maintenance functions of the toolbox. Nozzle cleaning and > ink level checking would get very expensive if one has to by an HP JetDirect > box for ones parallel printers. > > We cannot declare the parallel port as obsolete. Many of our customers still > have parallel-port HP inkjet or multi-function printers. Exactly the same is true for SUSE (and I guess for all other distributors too). Additionally: It is no real solution to have both HPOJ and HPLIP installed to have parallel port support via HPOJ because both cannot run at the same time. It doesn't work if a user has an old parallel port device (which needs HPOJ) and a new USB device (which needs HPLIP). I think there schould be at least a generic parallel port support in HPLIP (perhaps by omitting some inkjet maintenance functions if this functions are complicated to be implemented for some old parallel port devices). The crucial point is that after switching to HPLIP no functionality which was present before in HPIJS+HPOJ is lost. If this is not possible I would appreciate it if the reason is explained in the documentation because otherwise the users may become really upset if known functionality is no longer present without any reason. Regards, Johannes Meixner -- SUSE LINUX Products GmbH, Maxfeldstrasse 5 Mail: js...@su... 90409 Nuernberg, Germany WWW: http://www.suse.de/ |
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From: Cory M. <cor...@hp...> - 2005-01-18 17:20:54
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On Sat, 2005-01-15 at 02:19 +0100, Till Kamppeter wrote:
> Joe Piolunek wrote:
> > On Friday 14 January 2005 01:52, Cory Meisch wrote:
> >
> >>So, the answer is kind of mixed depending on how you look at the
> >>question. Inherently, no there aren't any missing support for the USB
> >>MFP devices in the driver. However, in the models.xml file there were
> >>some missing entries, which I have readded. There will be another
> >>release soon with the missing entries added.
> >>
> >>Cory
> >>hplip team
> >>
> >>On Fri, 2005-01-14 at 08:48 +0100, Thomas Rother wrote:
> >>
> >>>Hi Cory,
> >>>maybe you missed this, but we need some clarification on this question
> >>>from Till:
> >>>
> >>>Till Kamppeter schrieb:
> >>>
> >>>>Cory, David, are there still HP MF devices not supported by HPLIP yet?
> >>>>Is HPOJ still needed in the distros?
> >
> >
> > On the hpinkjet "supported devices" page, several multifunction devices have
> > "Yes" in the "Parallel" column, but according to the installation notes,
> > HPLIP doesn't support parallel-connected devices ("Note: The HP printing
> > software supports only USB and network connections. Parallel connections are
> > not supported.").
> >
> > If hplip won't support parallel connections, hpoj will still be needed for
> > all-in-ones that have only a parallel connection. I don't know how many of
> > them are still in use, but my parallel-only OfficeJet 600 just recently died
> > after eight years in what I think is a normal home desktop situation.
> >
> > It would be nice if hplip could support parallel devices. That it does not
> > (yet?) creates extra work (stop hpoj, start hplip, etc.) for users who have a
> > parallel-only all-in-one connected to their desktop pc (using hpoj), but also
> > want to print/scan to a networked device (using hplip).
> >
>
> Cory, I think dropping parallel port support is a bad idea.
>
> As printing maintainer of the Mandrakelinux distribution I also wish
> that HPLIP replaces HPOJ COMPLETELY, so that I can take HPOJ from the
> distro as soon as possible. I want to avoid having unmaintained software
> in the distro and there should also not be two packages fulfilling the
> same purpose. Also printerdrake gets big an cluttered if it has to take
> into account so many different methods of printer setup.
>
> I also want to let HP's print-only devices print through HPLIP, so that
> one can use the inkjet maintenance functions of the toolbox. Nozzle
> cleaning and ink level checking would get very expensive if one has to
> by an HP JetDirect box for ones parallel printers.
>
> We cannot declare the parallel port as obsolete. Many of our customers
> still have parallel-port HP inkjet or multi-function printers.
>
> Till
>
We have come to that conclusion as well. We are making parallel support
a top priority.
Cory
hplip team
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From: Till K. <til...@gm...> - 2005-01-05 20:57:34
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The new functions of HPLIP you find when starting the "toolbox"
(depending on model and mechanism):
- Status reporting of all jobs the machine does
- Ink level display
- Nozzle checking
- Nozzle cleaning
- Head alignment
- Color adjustment
- Test page
- Access GUIs for printing, scanning, and memory card reading by
clicking a button
In addition, no "ptal-init setup" is needed any more. Configuration goes
automatically. Simply have HPLIP running and restart CUPS after plugging
a device. Then you will get an "hp:/..." URI for the device in the
output of "lpinfo -v". Then set up a CUPS queue with this URI and the
appropriate PPD file (which is supplied with HPLIP). After that the
device is fully functional.
Till
Rainer Dorsch wrote:
> Thanks for the link. I setup hp oj for friends...both Debian systems. Very
> easy to configure and well integrated. I browsed quickly through the hplip
> pages. I am wondering which functionality the hplip has which hpoj does not.
> I did neither find anything nor did I miss something in hpoj ;-)
>
> And I am going to buy a HP printer now myself. The Linux support is superior!
>
> Thanks,
> Rainer
>
> Am Mittwoch, 5. Januar 2005 19:04 schrieben Sie:
>
>>Once, the device is most probably compatible to its predecessors and
>>simply works, even without being listed. Second, HPOJ is obsolete. Get
>>HPLIP from http://hpinkjet.sf.net/ and you get a more easy to configure
>>system with more functionality (especially printer maintenance).
>>
>> Till
>>
>>Rainer Dorsch wrote:
>>
>>>I am wondering, if the 2355 device is supported by the hpoj project. It
>>>is not listed at all the supported devices list.
>
>
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