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[hpoj-devel] Future of hpoj

[Erwan D. <er...@ra...>]

	hpoj.sf.net has no news since november. hpijs (which was said
to take the development) does not either speak of hpoj.

Shoul I consider that hpoj is dead and that I should try replacing my
PSC 750 by another brand than HP ? Or could I hope to see some *BSD
support in a near future (especially with the new USB drivers in
FreeBSD) ?


-- 
Erwan

[hpoj-devel] Future of hpoj

[Cory M. <cor...@hp...>]

Are you able to discourse a little on the topic of hpoj's future and
> HP's level of continued interest?  If you could, believe this would serve
> a couple purposes:
> 
> (a)  Keep the interest of those who may be interested in contributing.
> (b)  Keep the faith of those who may be running across hpoj for the first
>      time via the list, and be considering getting/using an HP device
>      with linux, but likewise be concerned by seeing such questions being
>      asked and not necessarily answered.
> 
> Also, if you could, possibly address the other question about "no new
> news", which is another indicator people look at when deciding on
> hardware and software solutions.

	Sorry that I have not responded to this sooner. We have heard your
requests but were unable to respond until now. There is another solution
currently under development that will replace the current hpoj
implementation. However, until that time, hpoj should suffice for the
majority of users, as it does support most AiO devices and will support
the products coming out this Summer and Fall. 
	There will be drawer statement here soon that will clearly state HP's
intentions and commitment to the Linux community.

Thank you for your pateience and persistance on this issue,

Cory

-- 
Cory Meisch <cor...@hp...>
HP Vancouver
Linux Printing Team
(360) 212-7009

Re: [hpoj-devel] Future of hpoj

[Erwan D. <er...@ra...>]

Le Tue 20/04/2004, Cory Meisch disait
> Are you able to discourse a little on the topic of hpoj's future and
> > HP's level of continued interest?  If you could, believe this would serve
> > a couple purposes:
> > 
> > (a)  Keep the interest of those who may be interested in contributing.
> > (b)  Keep the faith of those who may be running across hpoj for the first
> >      time via the list, and be considering getting/using an HP device
> >      with linux, but likewise be concerned by seeing such questions being
> >      asked and not necessarily answered.
> > 
> > Also, if you could, possibly address the other question about "no new
> > news", which is another indicator people look at when deciding on
> > hardware and software solutions.
> 
> 	Sorry that I have not responded to this sooner. We have heard your
> requests but were unable to respond until now. There is another solution
> currently under development that will replace the current hpoj
> implementation. However, until that time, hpoj should suffice for the
> majority of users, as it does support most AiO devices and will support
> the products coming out this Summer and Fall. 
> 	There will be drawer statement here soon that will clearly state HP's
> intentions and commitment to the Linux community.
> 
> Thank you for your pateience and persistance on this issue,

The "commitment to the *linux* community seems tome a little
restrictive, what about BSD's ?

-- 
Erwan

Re: [hpoj-devel] Future of hpoj

[Cory M. <cor...@hp...>]

On Tue, 2004-04-20 at 22:43, Erwan David wrote:
> Le Tue 20/04/2004, Cory Meisch disait
> > Are you able to discourse a little on the topic of hpoj's future and
> > > HP's level of continued interest?  If you could, believe this would serve
> > > a couple purposes:
> > > 
> > > (a)  Keep the interest of those who may be interested in contributing.
> > > (b)  Keep the faith of those who may be running across hpoj for the first
> > >      time via the list, and be considering getting/using an HP device
> > >      with linux, but likewise be concerned by seeing such questions being
> > >      asked and not necessarily answered.
> > > 
> > > Also, if you could, possibly address the other question about "no new
> > > news", which is another indicator people look at when deciding on
> > > hardware and software solutions.
> > 
> > 	Sorry that I have not responded to this sooner. We have heard your
> > requests but were unable to respond until now. There is another solution
> > currently under development that will replace the current hpoj
> > implementation. However, until that time, hpoj should suffice for the
> > majority of users, as it does support most AiO devices and will support
> > the products coming out this Summer and Fall. 
> > 	There will be drawer statement here soon that will clearly state HP's
> > intentions and commitment to the Linux community.
> > 
> > Thank you for your pateience and persistance on this issue,
> 
> The "commitment to the *linux* community seems tome a little
> restrictive, what about BSD's ?

	More generically, this should be "the Open Source Community" but we are
called the Linux team here, so I generally say Linux. However, if there
is interest, I will be happy to test on the BSD platform. Our hpijs has
even been ported to the AmigaOS platform as part of our "no user left
behind" program ;-)

-- 
Cory Meisch <cor...@hp...>
HP Vancouver
Linux Printing Team
(360) 212-7009

Re: [hpoj-devel] Future of hpoj

[Tim R. <tre...@ya...>]

Another solution under development?
So why exactly should I waste anymore time with this
project, trying to support Mac OS X for my OfficeJet
V40?


Tim

--- Cory Meisch <cor...@hp...> wrote:
> Are you able to discourse a little on the topic of
> hpoj's future and
> > HP's level of continued interest?  If you could,
> believe this would serve
> > a couple purposes:
> > 
> > (a)  Keep the interest of those who may be
> interested in contributing.
> > (b)  Keep the faith of those who may be running
> across hpoj for the first
> >      time via the list, and be considering
> getting/using an HP device
> >      with linux, but likewise be concerned by
> seeing such questions being
> >      asked and not necessarily answered.
> > 
> > Also, if you could, possibly address the other
> question about "no new
> > news", which is another indicator people look at
> when deciding on
> > hardware and software solutions.
> 
> 	Sorry that I have not responded to this sooner. We
> have heard your
> requests but were unable to respond until now. There
> is another solution
> currently under development that will replace the
> current hpoj
> implementation. However, until that time, hpoj
> should suffice for the
> majority of users, as it does support most AiO
> devices and will support
> the products coming out this Summer and Fall. 
> 	There will be drawer statement here soon that will
> clearly state HP's
> intentions and commitment to the Linux community.
> 
> Thank you for your pateience and persistance on this
> issue,
> 
> Cory
> 
> -- 
> Cory Meisch <cor...@hp...>
> HP Vancouver
> Linux Printing Team
> (360) 212-7009
> 
> 
> 
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Re: [hpoj-devel] Future of hpoj

[Cory M. <cor...@hp...>]

On Wed, 2004-04-21 at 05:24, Tim Regovich wrote:
> Another solution under development?
> So why exactly should I waste anymore time with this
> project, trying to support Mac OS X for my OfficeJet
> V40?
> 

	This is a generic question for any OSS project. Therefore, I will give
you the SOSA (standard open source answer). The advantages of OSS is
that you can download and change the software for your peticular needs.
You don't have to follow what the project team is doing, you can do it
for yourself. All other standard answers apply. You need a solution to
your specific circumstance. Feel free to use and modify our software.

Cory
hp linux printing team

> 
> Tim
> 
> --- Cory Meisch <cor...@hp...> wrote:
> > Are you able to discourse a little on the topic of
> > hpoj's future and
> > > HP's level of continued interest?  If you could,
> > believe this would serve
> > > a couple purposes:
> > > 
> > > (a)  Keep the interest of those who may be
> > interested in contributing.
> > > (b)  Keep the faith of those who may be running
> > across hpoj for the first
> > >      time via the list, and be considering
> > getting/using an HP device
> > >      with linux, but likewise be concerned by
> > seeing such questions being
> > >      asked and not necessarily answered.
> > > 
> > > Also, if you could, possibly address the other
> > question about "no new
> > > news", which is another indicator people look at
> > when deciding on
> > > hardware and software solutions.
> > 
> > 	Sorry that I have not responded to this sooner. We
> > have heard your
> > requests but were unable to respond until now. There
> > is another solution
> > currently under development that will replace the
> > current hpoj
> > implementation. However, until that time, hpoj
> > should suffice for the
> > majority of users, as it does support most AiO
> > devices and will support
> > the products coming out this Summer and Fall. 
> > 	There will be drawer statement here soon that will
> > clearly state HP's
> > intentions and commitment to the Linux community.
> > 
> > Thank you for your pateience and persistance on this
> > issue,
> > 
> > Cory
> > 
> > -- 
> > Cory Meisch <cor...@hp...>
> > HP Vancouver
> > Linux Printing Team
> > (360) 212-7009
> > 
> > 
> > 
> >
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> 
> 
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Re: [hpoj-devel] Future of hpoj

[Tim R. <tre...@ya...>]

Fair enough answer I suppose, and I am certainly
grateful that HP has put any resources into this at
all given the non-M$ OS market penetration.


Tim


--- Cory Meisch <cor...@hp...> wrote:
> On Wed, 2004-04-21 at 05:24, Tim Regovich wrote:
> > Another solution under development?
> > So why exactly should I waste anymore time with
> this
> > project, trying to support Mac OS X for my
> OfficeJet
> > V40?
> > 
> 
> 	This is a generic question for any OSS project.
> Therefore, I will give
> you the SOSA (standard open source answer). The
> advantages of OSS is
> that you can download and change the software for
> your peticular needs.
> You don't have to follow what the project team is
> doing, you can do it
> for yourself. All other standard answers apply. You
> need a solution to
> your specific circumstance. Feel free to use and
> modify our software.
> 
> Cory
> hp linux printing team
> 
> > 
> > Tim
> > 
> > --- Cory Meisch <cor...@hp...> wrote:
> > > Are you able to discourse a little on the topic
> of
> > > hpoj's future and
> > > > HP's level of continued interest?  If you
> could,
> > > believe this would serve
> > > > a couple purposes:
> > > > 
> > > > (a)  Keep the interest of those who may be
> > > interested in contributing.
> > > > (b)  Keep the faith of those who may be
> running
> > > across hpoj for the first
> > > >      time via the list, and be considering
> > > getting/using an HP device
> > > >      with linux, but likewise be concerned by
> > > seeing such questions being
> > > >      asked and not necessarily answered.
> > > > 
> > > > Also, if you could, possibly address the other
> > > question about "no new
> > > > news", which is another indicator people look
> at
> > > when deciding on
> > > > hardware and software solutions.
> > > 
> > > 	Sorry that I have not responded to this sooner.
> We
> > > have heard your
> > > requests but were unable to respond until now.
> There
> > > is another solution
> > > currently under development that will replace
> the
> > > current hpoj
> > > implementation. However, until that time, hpoj
> > > should suffice for the
> > > majority of users, as it does support most AiO
> > > devices and will support
> > > the products coming out this Summer and Fall. 
> > > 	There will be drawer statement here soon that
> will
> > > clearly state HP's
> > > intentions and commitment to the Linux
> community.
> > > 
> > > Thank you for your pateience and persistance on
> this
> > > issue,
> > > 
> > > Cory
> > > 
> > > -- 
> > > Cory Meisch <cor...@hp...>
> > > HP Vancouver
> > > Linux Printing Team
> > > (360) 212-7009
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > >
> >
>
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> >
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> > > hpo...@li...
> > >
> >
>
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> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 	
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> Linux Printing Team
> (360) 212-7009
> 
> 
> 
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[hpoj-devel] Future of hpoj

[Kobalt W.I.T. <Kob...@pa...>]

Hi,

I just recently discovered the hpoj project after I bought a HP LaserJet
3030. For me printing and scanning worked right out of the box with
Mandrake Linux 10.0 and hpoj version 0.91.

But I tend to send quite a bit of faxes directly from the computer,
which is not supported by hpoj.

Version 0.91 was released November 5th, 2003, which is more than a year
ago. Since then, no news, no updates, no nothing on the project's website.

I checked this mailing list to find out more, and the last message
regarding the future of hpoj dates from April 20th, 2004, now over seven
months ago. This was a message from Cory Meisch with a promise for a new
alternative to be announced soon.

I also notice list traffic is declining...

All of the above this leaves me concerned. What IS the future of hpoj ?

Cory,

do you have any updates or news for us HP customers ?

Don't misunderstand me, I should thank you first for all the support you
still give via the list.

It's just that I'm in a difficult position here. I sell complete linux
solutions to customers, but if they ask, I can't provide them with a
fully functional multifunction device. Hpoj provides a partial solution,
but no more than that.

Additionally, it would be nice to see the list of supported machines
updated every now and then. Your mail in April indicated that hpoj would
support all models coming out in summer and fall 2004. But that's a very
general statement. How much is supported on these machines ? For
example, there was no way figuring out beforehand wether the HP LJ 3030
I recently bought is supported. I found out by trying, and was lucky.
But it's really difficult doing business based on speculation like this.


Please any news on HP's position towards multifunctions on linux would
be great.


Thank you,

Geert Jan Janssens
-- 
Kobalt W.I.T.
Web & Information Technology
Brusselsesteenweg 152
1850 Grimbergen

Tel  : +32 479 339 655
Email: kobaltwit-at-pandora-dot-be

Re: [hpoj-devel] Future of hpoj

[Cory M. <cor...@hp...>]

On Thu, 2004-11-25 at 16:00 +0100, Kobalt W.I.T. wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> I just recently discovered the hpoj project after I bought a HP LaserJet
> 3030. For me printing and scanning worked right out of the box with
> Mandrake Linux 10.0 and hpoj version 0.91.
> 
> But I tend to send quite a bit of faxes directly from the computer,
> which is not supported by hpoj.
> 
> Version 0.91 was released November 5th, 2003, which is more than a year
> ago. Since then, no news, no updates, no nothing on the project's website.
> 
> I checked this mailing list to find out more, and the last message
> regarding the future of hpoj dates from April 20th, 2004, now over seven
> months ago. This was a message from Cory Meisch with a promise for a new
> alternative to be announced soon.
> 
> I also notice list traffic is declining...
> 
> All of the above this leaves me concerned. What IS the future of hpoj ?
> 
> Cory,
> 
> do you have any updates or news for us HP customers ?
	Check your mail boxes on Friday ;-)

> 
> Don't misunderstand me, I should thank you first for all the support you
> still give via the list.
> 
> It's just that I'm in a difficult position here. I sell complete linux
> solutions to customers, but if they ask, I can't provide them with a
> fully functional multifunction device. Hpoj provides a partial solution,
> but no more than that.
> 
> Additionally, it would be nice to see the list of supported machines
> updated every now and then. Your mail in April indicated that hpoj would
> support all models coming out in summer and fall 2004. But that's a very
> general statement. How much is supported on these machines ?
	We are generating an updated list, right now.

>  For
> example, there was no way figuring out beforehand wether the HP LJ 3030
> I recently bought is supported. I found out by trying, and was lucky.
> But it's really difficult doing business based on speculation like this.
> 
> 
> Please any news on HP's position towards multifunctions on linux would
> be great.
> 	
	Stay tuned...

> 
> Thank you,
> 
> Geert Jan Janssens
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