I'd like Hermes to do something similar to Gmail when you enter an e-mail.
In Gmail it's immediately replaced by a little rectangle showing only the
user's name. Where does gmail get this info from if not from a database of
sorts? Does it automatically hook up with facebook? Or is this some part of
the e-mail RFC I'm not aware of? Is The actual name sent along with the
e-mail?!
I'd like Hermes to do something similar to Gmail when you enter an e-mail.
In Gmail it's immediately replaced by a little rectangle showing only the
user's name. Where does gmail get this info from if not from a database of
sorts? Does it automatically hook up with facebook? Or is this some part of
the e-mail RFC I'm not aware of? Is The actual name sent along with the
e-mail?!
"Saved contacts" sounds suspiciously like some sort of database. Mind you,
I'm not lobbying for anything here. But no matter what, such a "database"
has to be built. Do we really want it to be a simple textfile?
I know ODBC has drivers that will handle such simple text-files, but if
we're already using SQL for handling a simple text file why not do it
properly? For the coder it will be transparent. And a heck of a lot more
stable and visionary.
Hm. Tur ned out I actually did lobby a Little there. Sorry. :)
Why don't you use the database that Eudora is already using? I'm too lazy, I mean, tired to find the VC++ project that deals with the Eudora Address Book, but you're a smart man, you figure it out.
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Perhaps. But this brings us full-circle. Again.
"Saved contacts" sounds suspiciously like some sort of database. Mind you,
I'm not lobbying for anything here. But no matter what, such a "database"
has to be built. Do we really want it to be a simple textfile?
I know ODBC has drivers that will handle such simple text-files, but if
we're already using SQL for handling a simple text file why not do it
properly? For the coder it will be transparent. And a heck of a lot more
stable and visionary.
Hm. Tur ned out I actually did lobby a Little there. Sorry. :)
The real elephant in the room seems to be coding methodology. I have tried
again and again to raise this issue, and I have not to date received a
satisfactory answer as to the question of "cut and paste" code.
I appreciate the fact that EUDORA.EXE and the associated Visual Studio
project refuses to compile with about a million errors. But all those
errors seem to be related to Stingray. Is there not some way to copy and
paste, let's say, the Eudora address book code, so we don't have to dirty
our hands and our minds with SQL? I mean, even if we do the contacts
database with SQL, the Eudora old-timers will bitch and moan to no end
about it...
Sigh.
And in relation to the mail "spool" (i.e. the storage of sent and received
messages on disk), there is absolutely no question of storing that as a
database. Zero. Nada. The spool is, as its name implies, a
one-dimensional construct, and I suppose I could send you a test Eudora
mailstore so that you could examine it... but why, when the actual code is
right there in front of you, don't you cut and paste the message handlers,
in short, just cut and paste everything? We really should NOT be doing
this from scratch.
From: sbrothy@users.sourceforge.net
Sent: 7 March 2019 11:40
To: general@discussion.hermesmail.p.re.sourceforge.net
Reply to: general@discussion.hermesmail.p.re.sourceforge.net
Subject: [hermesmail:discussion] Re: Names connectes to e-mails...
Perhaps. But this brings us full-circle. Again.
"Saved contacts" sounds suspiciously like some sort of database. Mind you,
I'm not lobbying for anything here. But no matter what, such a "database"
has to be built. Do we really want it to be a simple textfile?
I know ODBC has drivers that will handle such simple text-files, but if
we're already using SQL for handling a simple text file why not do it
properly? For the coder it will be transparent. And a heck of a lot more
stable and visionary.
Hm. Tur ned out I actually did lobby a Little there. Sorry. :)
Regards
Søren
On Thursday, March 7, 2019, Walt Stagner wstagner@users.sourceforge.net
wrote:
Maybe it "reads" this info from your saved contacts? OR does it do this
Maybe this is another area where I can help. I will look at the Address Book code and see if it lends itself to extraction into a nice clean module by itself.
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Maybe this is another area where I can help. I will look at the Address
Book code and see if it lends itself to extraction into a nice clean module
by itself.
On Saturday, March 9, 2019 7:45:04 AM EST, Pete Maclean wrote:
Maybe this is another area where I can help. I will look at the
Address Book code and see if it lends itself to extraction into
a nice clean module by itself.
That would be a good idea. I would like to see the monolithic eudora.exe
project be separated into its component parts, so that we can transfer
everything that isn't Stingray.
To tell you the embarrassing truth I haven't really used the program yet.
One of the reasons is that I use my cellphone as hotspot and as such have
issues with forwarding and opening ports. I need to get an old-fashioned
router before I can make it work properly. It's a major problem...
Also, my use of the program as such is kinda backwards.
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You mean the Eudora Address Book?!?! Then why didn't you say so?
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I'd like Hermes to do something similar to Gmail when you enter an e-mail.
In Gmail it's immediately replaced by a little rectangle showing only the
user's name. Where does gmail get this info from if not from a database of
sorts? Does it automatically hook up with facebook? Or is this some part of
the e-mail RFC I'm not aware of? Is The actual name sent along with the
Yes, I'm painfully awate. I'm in the prøve Så of changing tele-company so I
can get a proper router. One where I can forward ports properly and
wherebthere's a decent speed. For now ai kinfa bluff mu wau through but
beløbet me, I know it's not good enough. I've had mu share of trouble with
my former company though.
On Friday, March 8, 2019 5:06:58 AM EST, Soren Bro wrote:
To tell you the embarrassing truth I haven't really used the program yet.
One of the reasons is that I use my cellphone as hotspot and as such have
issues with forwarding and opening ports. I need to get an old-fashioned
router before I can make it work properly. It's a major problem...
Also, my use of the program as such is kinda backwards.
Please get on it as soon as possible.
Regards.
On Friday, March 8, 2019, Ted Matavka nmatavka@users.sourceforge.net
wrote:
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You mean the Eudora Address Book?!?! Then why didn't you say so?
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From: sbrothy@users.sourceforge.net
Sent: 7 March 2019 03:20
To: general@discussion.hermesmail.p.re.sourceforge.net
Reply to: general@discussion.hermesmail.p.re.sourceforge.net
Subject: [hermesmail:discussion] Names connectes to e-mails...
I'd like Hermes to do something similar to Gmail when you enter an e-mail.
In Gmail it's immediately replaced by a little rectangle showing only the
user's name. Where does gmail get this info from if not from a database of
sorts?
Uses the Gmail contacts list. So, yes, a database. We can replicate the
functionality with the local Eudora address book which I propose may be
taken out and put into Hermes.
Try Eudora71/Importers/OEImport.cpp. That should tell you how the Eudora
address book is structured.
Does it automatically hook up with facebook? Or is this some part of
the e-mail RFC I'm not aware of? Is The actual name sent along with the
When Eudora goes into "compose" mode, it remembers your most recently used email addresses (I can't remember how many or for how long), so if you type the first letter of one of them it opens a drop down list for you to select one.
If you would like to refer to this comment somewhere else in this project, copy and paste the following link:
I'd like Hermes to do something similar to Gmail when you enter an e-mail.
In Gmail it's immediately replaced by a little rectangle showing only the
user's name. Where does gmail get this info from if not from a database of
sorts? Does it automatically hook up with facebook? Or is this some part of
the e-mail RFC I'm not aware of? Is The actual name sent along with the
e-mail?!
Sounds a little farfetched to me.
Regards
Søren.
--
Søren Bro Thygesen
And it also doesn't make any sense comme to think about it...?
/Søren
On Thursday, March 7, 2019, Soren Bro sbrothy@users.sourceforge.net wrote:
--
Søren Bro Thygesen
Maybe it "reads" this info from your saved contacts? OR does it do this regardless?.
Perhaps. But this brings us full-circle. Again.
"Saved contacts" sounds suspiciously like some sort of database. Mind you,
I'm not lobbying for anything here. But no matter what, such a "database"
has to be built. Do we really want it to be a simple textfile?
I know ODBC has drivers that will handle such simple text-files, but if
we're already using SQL for handling a simple text file why not do it
properly? For the coder it will be transparent. And a heck of a lot more
stable and visionary.
Hm. Tur ned out I actually did lobby a Little there. Sorry. :)
Regards
Søren
On Thursday, March 7, 2019, Walt Stagner wstagner@users.sourceforge.net
wrote:
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Søren Bro Thygesen
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Perhaps. But this brings us full-circle. Again.
"Saved contacts" sounds suspiciously like some sort of database. Mind you,
I'm not lobbying for anything here. But no matter what, such a "database"
has to be built. Do we really want it to be a simple textfile?
I know ODBC has drivers that will handle such simple text-files, but if
we're already using SQL for handling a simple text file why not do it
properly? For the coder it will be transparent. And a heck of a lot more
stable and visionary.
Hm. Tur ned out I actually did lobby a Little there. Sorry. :)
Regards
Søren
On Thursday, March 7, 2019, Walt Stagner wstagner@users.sourceforge.net
wrote:
--
Søren Bro Thygesen
Names connectes to e-mails...
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The real elephant in the room seems to be coding methodology. I have tried
again and again to raise this issue, and I have not to date received a
satisfactory answer as to the question of "cut and paste" code.
I appreciate the fact that EUDORA.EXE and the associated Visual Studio
project refuses to compile with about a million errors. But all those
errors seem to be related to Stingray. Is there not some way to copy and
paste, let's say, the Eudora address book code, so we don't have to dirty
our hands and our minds with SQL? I mean, even if we do the contacts
database with SQL, the Eudora old-timers will bitch and moan to no end
about it...
Sigh.
And in relation to the mail "spool" (i.e. the storage of sent and received
messages on disk), there is absolutely no question of storing that as a
database. Zero. Nada. The spool is, as its name implies, a
one-dimensional construct, and I suppose I could send you a test Eudora
mailstore so that you could examine it... but why, when the actual code is
right there in front of you, don't you cut and paste the message handlers,
in short, just cut and paste everything? We really should NOT be doing
this from scratch.
Maybe this is another area where I can help. I will look at the Address Book code and see if it lends itself to extraction into a nice clean module by itself.
Good idea.
On Sat, 9 Mar 2019, 07:45 Pete Maclean, petemaclean@users.sourceforge.net
wrote:
On Saturday, March 9, 2019 7:45:04 AM EST, Pete Maclean wrote:
That would be a good idea. I would like to see the monolithic eudora.exe
project be separated into its component parts, so that we can transfer
everything that isn't Stingray.
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I'd like Hermes to do something similar to Gmail when you enter an e-mail.
In Gmail it's immediately replaced by a little rectangle showing only the
user's name. Where does gmail get this info from if not from a database of
sorts? Does it automatically hook up with facebook? Or is this some part of
the e-mail RFC I'm not aware of? Is The actual name sent along with the
e-mail?!
Sounds a little farfetched to me.
Regards
Søren.
--
Søren Bro Thygesen
Names connectes to e-mails...
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To tell you the embarrassing truth I haven't really used the program yet.
One of the reasons is that I use my cellphone as hotspot and as such have
issues with forwarding and opening ports. I need to get an old-fashioned
router before I can make it work properly. It's a major problem...
Also, my use of the program as such is kinda backwards.
Regards.
On Friday, March 8, 2019, Ted Matavka nmatavka@users.sourceforge.net
wrote:
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Søren Bro Thygesen
You really need to use the program to learn & appreciate what it's really capable of and why WE USERS cling to it with a death-like grip.
Yes, I'm painfully awate. I'm in the prøve Så of changing tele-company so I
can get a proper router. One where I can forward ports properly and
wherebthere's a decent speed. For now ai kinfa bluff mu wau through but
beløbet me, I know it's not good enough. I've had mu share of trouble with
my former company though.
Regards.
On Friday, March 8, 2019, Walt Stagner wstagner@users.sourceforge.net
wrote:
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Søren Bro Thygesen
On Friday, March 8, 2019 5:06:58 AM EST, Soren Bro wrote:
Please get on it as soon as possible.
Uses the Gmail contacts list. So, yes, a database. We can replicate the
functionality with the local Eudora address book which I propose may be
taken out and put into Hermes.
Try Eudora71/Importers/OEImport.cpp. That should tell you how the Eudora
address book is structured.
What I mean by "saved contacts" is the Eudora/Hermes address book.
I see. I need to look furthet into that....
Regards
On Thursday, March 7, 2019, Walt Stagner wstagner@users.sourceforge.net
wrote:
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Søren Bro Thygesen
When Eudora goes into "compose" mode, it remembers your most recently used email addresses (I can't remember how many or for how long), so if you type the first letter of one of them it opens a drop down list for you to select one.