Nick,
Will this install Hermes over the top of an existing Eudora? Do we need to uninstall Eudora first or will Hermes be a completely seperate application?
Thank you, I'm eager to give this a try.
dp
Last edit: David Parr 2018-06-20
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At this point I would hope that the new Hermes install would be a separate
entity from Eudora. I don't really know when a finished product will be
ready. I am working on the build process now. I just updated the Visual
Studio project files to Visual Studio 2017. I am not sure what parts the
others are working on. Thanks for the query. I hope and pray we can get you
a decent finished project in a minimal amount of time.
Nick,
Is ths install file going to install a new instance of what was Eudora as
Hermes over the top of an existing Eudora? Do we need to uninstall Eudora
first? Will Hermes be a completely seperate appilation?
Nick,
Is ths install file going to install a new instance of what was Eudora
as Hermes over the top of an existing Eudora? Do we need to uninstall
Eudora first? Will Hermes be a completely seperate appilation?
I am hoping the install will be a separate installation/product from the
old Eudora. Hopefully, we can make it so the old formats work, but the
data will be stored in a different directory.
Jeff....kudos to you and everyone involved in this huge but worthwhile undertaking. Do you have any particular program or programs that you're modeling the install procedure after?
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We haven't forgotten Linux, Mac, or Haiku users. Stingray will be replaced with MFC for Windows and its equivalents for Linux, Mac, and Haiku - the rest is, afaica, standard C++ so it will compile either way.
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I think I saw a mail from you where you say I'm welcome to handle i18n. I
didn't sign up for this project to do only that, I'm pretty sure replacing
Stingray with MFC is within my capabilities if no one is already doing
that.
I'll gladly handle localisation too, but it's limited what I can do myself.
My German isn't good enough for that. We need to activate some of the users
for that purpose.
We haven't forgotten Linux, Mac, or Haiku users. Stingray will be replaced
with MFC for Windows and its equivalents for Linux, Mac, and Haiku - the
rest is, afaica, standard C++ so it will compile either way.
Glad to have you onboard! Help out wherever you feel like :) I suggested i18n because it's one of the things you can do if you aren't a coder - but if you can code, the overriding priority is to get a copy of Hermes that compiles and runs.
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I'm curious why go the MFC route rather than what Wireshark's gui is doing? Afaik they are using Qt for their complex but still responsive multiplatform gui.
Last edit: Justin Goldberg 2019-10-09
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We tried WxWidgets. It doesn't fit the situation very well; for example it
doesn't do docking, tabbed "wazoos", which are sine qua non as far as
Eudora goes. Even an MFC redo would be unduly burdensome for our three
programmers; we tried that too, for six months (when we only had one
full-timer), and barely moved the needle. For now, Stingray is priority
one, features are priority two, MFC is priority three.
I'm curious why go the MFC route rather than what Wireshark's gui is
doing? Afaik they are using WxWidgets for their complex but still
responsive multiplatform gui.
--
----- BEGIN TECO SIGNATURE BLOCK -----
32UD44UE97UR99UM101UA104UT106UO107UG110UL111UY114UP115UH116UI117UC$
QA:^US$QP:^US$QD:^US$QI:^US$QA:^US$QM:^UQ$QG:^UQ$QA:^UQ$QP:^UQ$
QE:^UQ$QO:^UU$QC:^UU$QH:^UU$QI:^UU$QD:^UU$QM:^UI$QY:^UI$QD:^UI$
QT:^UI$QR:^UI$QR:^UB$QL:^UB$QY:^UB$QI:^UB$QT:^UB$GI-5CGUGS-5CGB10CGQ0JT$$
----- END TECO SIGNATURE BLOCK -----
(Don't forget: ^ in TECO means just that, and $ means press the Esc key!)
I have tried simply downloading the HermesSSL.zip and extracting to a new folder and then following the readme.txt instructions.
After running vcredist.exe as per step 3 I get the Setup successful message and that's it. No further instructions at all. So when I try step 5 Start/Run... I don't see anything relating to Hermes in the list.
Reading the readme.txt file seems to infer that Eudora must be already installed before running vcredist.exe because of the references to "%ProgramFiles%\Qualcomm\Eudora" etc, plus this note NOTE: If you have Eudora installed in a different directory to Program Files substitute that directory for %ProgramFiles%.
David Parr's original question at the top of this thread does not seem to have been adequately answered to my mind by any of the answers which followed his question.
Perhaps for those of us who are new to Hermes Mail there should be a comprehensive Installation Instruction List. The readme.txt file does not specifically say that Eudora is a prerequisite.
I would appreciate some clarification so that I can get Hermes Mail up and running on this new Windows 10 desktop.
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I've been running Eudora since around 1999 and accordingly have a major collection of emails and attachments all of which I can easily access and search for.
Will Hermes have the same or similar search tools and will I be able to copy the same .mbx and .toc files and have these usable in Hermes. I am also assuming that I can place these files in a directory different from the Program Files directory and it would be nice if that was a Dropbox directory so that I can use Hermes on multiple PC and Laptops without having to synchronise directories (bearing in mind needing to log off from one device before opening on another)
Also, I currently don't have a way of introducing ARC and DKIM strings in front of emails with the result that Gmail (especially) clients tend to place my emails directly into spam filters. Will Hermes help in this regard. (Note I'm also asking the same question of my ISP)
Lastly, I really want a modern replacement for Eudora and while my programming skills are seriosly wanting, is there any way that I can help the Hermes cause?
I am going to try installing Hermes in the next month or so and would appreciate really good step by step instructions. (I continue to use Windows 7 - 64 bit)
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Hi all, I also have Windows 7 64 bit and the install fails. I downlaoded Hermes SSL.zip and I suppose the file I am supposed to use to install the program after I open it is vcredit.exe? Anyway I have been uing Eudora for over 20 years and anxious to try this. Any help out there? Thanks, Adam
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Hi, can anyone out there tell me if there is a Hermes download out that there works or is the product just not available? I have e-mailed some of the people involved in the making of Hermes program but can not get any answers? Thanks for any help. Adam Farber
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I strongly encourage you to sign up for the eudora-win email discussion list. It's full of a community of Eudora experts who regularly answer a wide range of Eudora questions.
People generally have had great success with getting Eudora working with Windows 7 and Windows 10, and they will help you make the necessary adjustments if you join the list and ask.
The Hermes QCSLL addition that Pete Maclean generously created is an essential addition, for it allows Eudora to work with modern security standards that most email hosts have been moving to.
I have Eudora and am using Yahoo mail. They just quit support TLS 1.0 - so my Eudora won't download mail anymore.
Sorry to be such a newbie - but is there something here (now) that I can install to get my Eudora up and running again?
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If you use the Hermes installer, it will replace the part of Eudora that drives TLS support with the new version Pete Maclean created for the Hermes project, and that will give your copy of Eudora TLS 1.1 and 1.2 support, and keep you going for hopefully years more.
But you might also have to update your configuration. I encourage you to sign up for the eudora-win email discussion list. It's full of a community of Eudora experts who regularly answer a wide range of Eudora questions.
The folks on that list are used to guiding people through getting the new Hermes QCSSL library working with Eudora.
Susan Epstein -- I noticed you used the Hermes installer on May 1 to get your Eudora receiving emails from, I suspect, Yahoo because Yahoo stopped using TLS 1.0 which Eudora uses.I have the same issue. Can you direct me to the steps you used as you apparently fixed your Eudora issue the same day. Impressive... Thank you in advance. As you can tell I am a newbie as well.
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Nick,
Will this install Hermes over the top of an existing Eudora? Do we need to uninstall Eudora first or will Hermes be a completely seperate application?
Thank you, I'm eager to give this a try.
dp
Last edit: David Parr 2018-06-20
David,
At this point I would hope that the new Hermes install would be a separate
entity from Eudora. I don't really know when a finished product will be
ready. I am working on the build process now. I just updated the Visual
Studio project files to Visual Studio 2017. I am not sure what parts the
others are working on. Thanks for the query. I hope and pray we can get you
a decent finished project in a minimal amount of time.
Thanks.
Jeff Prickett
On Tue, Jun 19, 2018 at 5:17 PM, David Parr crustyfader1424@users.sourceforge.net wrote:
On 6/19/2018 5:17 PM, David Parr wrote:
I am hoping the install will be a separate installation/product from the
old Eudora. Hopefully, we can make it so the old formats work, but the
data will be stored in a different directory.
Jeff Prickett
kg4ygs@gmail.com
Jeff....kudos to you and everyone involved in this huge but worthwhile undertaking. Do you have any particular program or programs that you're modeling the install procedure after?
Thanks for the response, Jeff. We will keep our eyes open for the coming developmensts.
dp
Leaving out a lot of Linux users :(
We haven't forgotten Linux, Mac, or Haiku users. Stingray will be replaced with MFC for Windows and its equivalents for Linux, Mac, and Haiku - the rest is, afaica, standard C++ so it will compile either way.
I think I saw a mail from you where you say I'm welcome to handle i18n. I
didn't sign up for this project to do only that, I'm pretty sure replacing
Stingray with MFC is within my capabilities if no one is already doing
that.
I'll gladly handle localisation too, but it's limited what I can do myself.
My German isn't good enough for that. We need to activate some of the users
for that purpose.
Regards
Soren
On Tuesday, September 4, 2018, Ted Matavka nmatavka@users.sourceforge.net
wrote:
--
Søren Bro Thygesen
Glad to have you onboard! Help out wherever you feel like :) I suggested i18n because it's one of the things you can do if you aren't a coder - but if you can code, the overriding priority is to get a copy of Hermes that compiles and runs.
I'm curious why go the MFC route rather than what Wireshark's gui is doing? Afaik they are using Qt for their complex but still responsive multiplatform gui.
Last edit: Justin Goldberg 2019-10-09
We tried WxWidgets. It doesn't fit the situation very well; for example it
doesn't do docking, tabbed "wazoos", which are sine qua non as far as
Eudora goes. Even an MFC redo would be unduly burdensome for our three
programmers; we tried that too, for six months (when we only had one
full-timer), and barely moved the needle. For now, Stingray is priority
one, features are priority two, MFC is priority three.
On Wed, 9 Oct 2019 at 17:05, Justin Goldberg justgold@users.sourceforge.net
wrote:
--
----- BEGIN TECO SIGNATURE BLOCK -----
32UD44UE97UR99UM101UA104UT106UO107UG110UL111UY114UP115UH116UI117UC$
QA:^US$QP:^US$QD:^US$QI:^US$QA:^US$QM:^UQ$QG:^UQ$QA:^UQ$QP:^UQ$
QE:^UQ$QO:^UU$QC:^UU$QH:^UU$QI:^UU$QD:^UU$QM:^UI$QY:^UI$QD:^UI$
QT:^UI$QR:^UI$QR:^UB$QL:^UB$QY:^UB$QI:^UB$QT:^UB$GI-5CGUGS-5CGB10CGQ0JT$$
----- END TECO SIGNATURE BLOCK -----
(Don't forget: ^ in TECO means just that, and $ means press the Esc key!)
I have tried simply downloading the HermesSSL.zip and extracting to a new folder and then following the readme.txt instructions.
After running vcredist.exe as per step 3 I get the Setup successful message and that's it. No further instructions at all. So when I try step 5 Start/Run... I don't see anything relating to Hermes in the list.
Reading the readme.txt file seems to infer that Eudora must be already installed before running vcredist.exe because of the references to "%ProgramFiles%\Qualcomm\Eudora" etc, plus this note NOTE: If you have Eudora installed in a different directory to Program Files substitute that directory for %ProgramFiles%.
David Parr's original question at the top of this thread does not seem to have been adequately answered to my mind by any of the answers which followed his question.
Perhaps for those of us who are new to Hermes Mail there should be a comprehensive Installation Instruction List. The readme.txt file does not specifically say that Eudora is a prerequisite.
I would appreciate some clarification so that I can get Hermes Mail up and running on this new Windows 10 desktop.
I apologise for posing my question because I have managed to figure out how to install Eudora/Hermes without any assistance.
I've been running Eudora since around 1999 and accordingly have a major collection of emails and attachments all of which I can easily access and search for.
Will Hermes have the same or similar search tools and will I be able to copy the same .mbx and .toc files and have these usable in Hermes. I am also assuming that I can place these files in a directory different from the Program Files directory and it would be nice if that was a Dropbox directory so that I can use Hermes on multiple PC and Laptops without having to synchronise directories (bearing in mind needing to log off from one device before opening on another)
Also, I currently don't have a way of introducing ARC and DKIM strings in front of emails with the result that Gmail (especially) clients tend to place my emails directly into spam filters. Will Hermes help in this regard. (Note I'm also asking the same question of my ISP)
Lastly, I really want a modern replacement for Eudora and while my programming skills are seriosly wanting, is there any way that I can help the Hermes cause?
I am going to try installing Hermes in the next month or so and would appreciate really good step by step instructions. (I continue to use Windows 7 - 64 bit)
Hi all, I also have Windows 7 64 bit and the install fails. I downlaoded Hermes SSL.zip and I suppose the file I am supposed to use to install the program after I open it is vcredit.exe? Anyway I have been uing Eudora for over 20 years and anxious to try this. Any help out there? Thanks, Adam
Hi, can anyone out there tell me if there is a Hermes download out that there works or is the product just not available? I have e-mailed some of the people involved in the making of Hermes program but can not get any answers? Thanks for any help. Adam Farber
The Hermes team does not yet have a complete product, that is something to wholly replace Eudora, but only an updated version of QCSSL.dll.
Hi, Adam,
I strongly encourage you to sign up for the eudora-win email discussion list. It's full of a community of Eudora experts who regularly answer a wide range of Eudora questions.
People generally have had great success with getting Eudora working with Windows 7 and Windows 10, and they will help you make the necessary adjustments if you join the list and ask.
The Hermes QCSLL addition that Pete Maclean generously created is an essential addition, for it allows Eudora to work with modern security standards that most email hosts have been moving to.
Joining the list: http://www.listmoms.net/eudora-win/index.html
OK all, thanks for getting back to me, I appreciate it. Adam
I have Eudora and am using Yahoo mail. They just quit support TLS 1.0 - so my Eudora won't download mail anymore.
Sorry to be such a newbie - but is there something here (now) that I can install to get my Eudora up and running again?
Hi, Susan,
If you use the Hermes installer, it will replace the part of Eudora that drives TLS support with the new version Pete Maclean created for the Hermes project, and that will give your copy of Eudora TLS 1.1 and 1.2 support, and keep you going for hopefully years more.
But you might also have to update your configuration. I encourage you to sign up for the eudora-win email discussion list. It's full of a community of Eudora experts who regularly answer a wide range of Eudora questions.
The folks on that list are used to guiding people through getting the new Hermes QCSSL library working with Eudora.
Joining the list: http://www.listmoms.net/eudora-win/index.html
OMG...I am overwhelmed with THANKS....my inbound mail is working again.
Thanks to everyone who was part of this..and stay healthy!!
Susan Epstein -- I noticed you used the Hermes installer on May 1 to get your Eudora receiving emails from, I suspect, Yahoo because Yahoo stopped using TLS 1.0 which Eudora uses.I have the same issue. Can you direct me to the steps you used as you apparently fixed your Eudora issue the same day. Impressive... Thank you in advance. As you can tell I am a newbie as well.