Heartfelt thanks for the release of Eudora install pkg with the updated security and certificates. This will get me by until the Hermes release that I'm sure will be well-worth the wait. Software development is like home remodeling. The project takes 2-3 times longer than expected and costs 2x as much. What has been done already for the long-abandoned Eudora users is a confidence booster for the soon-to-be Hermes users.
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I don't know anything about writing software but I know enough to be aware that it is going to be a fairly thankless task to undertake the upgrading of Eudora so that itwill, hopefully, serve its many adherents for many years to come.
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Yes...a lot has changed in the past 13 years and the fact it still worked (even before the revised dll files) says a lot about how well the software was written.
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I am a VS2015 user, so downloaded the source in the hopes of working on it here. I am sorry to say I fell at the first hurdle - multiple errors - can you say what package was used to compile it ?
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Stingray Objective Toolkit is required to compile Eudora. Unfortunately, it is legally encumbered. Please send me your e-mail address as soon as possible, either here or privately, and I will touch base with you in reference to working on this project. We could seriously use your assistance.
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Stingray Objective Toolkit is required to compile Eudora. Unfortunately, it is legally encumbered. Please send me your e-mail address as soon as possible, either here or privately, and I will touch base with you in reference to working on this project. We could seriously use your assistance.
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Eudora was built using Visual Studio .NET 2003 and that is what I am using for my work on Hermes. In time we will migrate it to VS2015 (which is what I am using for other projects) or higher but I feel very strongly that, for now, it is best to keep going with the 2003 compiler.
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I e-Mailed you detailed instructions on how to get the Objective Toolkit (please don't share it around, Stingray's lawyers will kill me if we breach the licence terms) and which people to talk to if you need help with compiling it. Please let me know if you've got it.
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I want to add my thanks for jumping on this project as soon as the source code was made available. We consider Eudora to be the best email client ever created, and it has a great future for those of us who need a basic, reliable, fast email client with a GUI that is easy to use and not annoying. :)
The SSL fixes helped us a lot after our email provider made changes that caused frequent (though not constant) connection errors and timeouts.
We have about 100 people here using Eudora. The most desirable next thing to fix from our point of view would be the UTF encoding. I realize this is not a simple matter. However, that's the only other issue that significantly affects usability. (After that, improvements to HTML rendering would be good, but I'm already very happy that the current version fixes many issues with MS Outlook's insane CSS coding.
Thanks to all of you from all of us at Southern Tier Independence Center, Inc.
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Many thanks for updating Eudora, which is I use since the beginning. The only thing I miss very much is to fix the UTF encoding. With this, it would be perfect.
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Last edit: Mauro Zilbovicius 2019-09-18
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Dear Team,
I registered to sourceforge only and only for THIS project !
First of all, thank you very much - from my heart - to the whole team for taking up this chalanging task.
For me, Eudora 1.5 (from an IBM advertisement floppy ~ 600kB) was, back in the age of OS/2 , for real the "love at first sight" which I gradually upgraded after switching to Win98/XP/Win7.
I (nearly) lost any hope after withnessing the long agony and the final "gently asleep" of Penelope / Eudora OSE /Odysseus/ Mail Forge/...
First learned about HERMES project some weeks ago while searching for an Eudora replacement for my wife, which pushed me coz she wanted to communicate with her relatives in her native language.
For me a switch is out of question coz firstly I'd (objectively) loose my entire private and business correspondence from last 20 years (~8 GB only the MBX'es), and secondly coz I'm (subjectivelly) so used to the look&feel of this emailer with it's classic icon-set.
At the wery first glance I liked the way how this project was started i.e. how Ted tackled it, and really believe that the only way Eudora can (and will) be revived is by the concentrated effort of real (idealistic, enthusiastic ?) lovers, and not driven by commercial reasons.
And finally, I wish all of you to have the endurance to finalize HERMES, although I'm confident that, once the project was started, there will be many others which will come - it's just a matter of time...
Further, I'm also confident that, once brought to live by the "old generation" lovers/developpers, the nwer generation will also jump in.
Thanks !
Last edit: Johann Doniga 2019-10-16
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Hello Johann,
I share your concerns, particularly the last 25 years correspondence.
I did write something to 'rip' it all to text files, but they were huge and not indexed very well, so I am trying to help the team to revive Eudora.
I have also found that, provided you replace the .dlls as discussed somewhere in the project, Eudora works OK with POP servers, and has only one significant bug when dealing with IMAP servers: the CheckMail button doesn't work, and neither does the "check every n minutes", so you have to stop and restart all the time.
Regards,
Colin.
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Heartfelt thanks for the release of Eudora install pkg with the updated security and certificates. This will get me by until the Hermes release that I'm sure will be well-worth the wait. Software development is like home remodeling. The project takes 2-3 times longer than expected and costs 2x as much. What has been done already for the long-abandoned Eudora users is a confidence booster for the soon-to-be Hermes users.
I heartily concur Walt.
I don't know anything about writing software but I know enough to be aware that it is going to be a fairly thankless task to undertake the upgrading of Eudora so that itwill, hopefully, serve its many adherents for many years to come.
Yes...a lot has changed in the past 13 years and the fact it still worked (even before the revised dll files) says a lot about how well the software was written.
I am a VS2015 user, so downloaded the source in the hopes of working on it here. I am sorry to say I fell at the first hurdle - multiple errors - can you say what package was used to compile it ?
Stingray Objective Toolkit is required to compile Eudora. Unfortunately, it is legally encumbered. Please send me your e-mail address as soon as possible, either here or privately, and I will touch base with you in reference to working on this project. We could seriously use your assistance.
Stingray Objective Toolkit is required to compile Eudora. Unfortunately, it is legally encumbered. Please send me your e-mail address as soon as possible, either here or privately, and I will touch base with you in reference to working on this project. We could seriously use your assistance.
Eudora was built using Visual Studio .NET 2003 and that is what I am using for my work on Hermes. In time we will migrate it to VS2015 (which is what I am using for other projects) or higher but I feel very strongly that, for now, it is best to keep going with the 2003 compiler.
I e-Mailed you detailed instructions on how to get the Objective Toolkit (please don't share it around, Stingray's lawyers will kill me if we breach the licence terms) and which people to talk to if you need help with compiling it. Please let me know if you've got it.
I want to add my thanks for jumping on this project as soon as the source code was made available. We consider Eudora to be the best email client ever created, and it has a great future for those of us who need a basic, reliable, fast email client with a GUI that is easy to use and not annoying. :)
The SSL fixes helped us a lot after our email provider made changes that caused frequent (though not constant) connection errors and timeouts.
We have about 100 people here using Eudora. The most desirable next thing to fix from our point of view would be the UTF encoding. I realize this is not a simple matter. However, that's the only other issue that significantly affects usability. (After that, improvements to HTML rendering would be good, but I'm already very happy that the current version fixes many issues with MS Outlook's insane CSS coding.
Thanks to all of you from all of us at Southern Tier Independence Center, Inc.
Yes, Unicode is the first on our radar as well!
Many thanks for updating Eudora, which is I use since the beginning. The only thing I miss very much is to fix the UTF encoding. With this, it would be perfect.
Last edit: Mauro Zilbovicius 2019-09-18
Dear Team,
I registered to sourceforge only and only for THIS project !
First of all, thank you very much - from my heart - to the whole team for taking up this chalanging task.
For me, Eudora 1.5 (from an IBM advertisement floppy ~ 600kB) was, back in the age of OS/2 , for real the "love at first sight" which I gradually upgraded after switching to Win98/XP/Win7.
I (nearly) lost any hope after withnessing the long agony and the final "gently asleep" of Penelope / Eudora OSE /Odysseus/ Mail Forge/...
First learned about HERMES project some weeks ago while searching for an Eudora replacement for my wife, which pushed me coz she wanted to communicate with her relatives in her native language.
For me a switch is out of question coz firstly I'd (objectively) loose my entire private and business correspondence from last 20 years (~8 GB only the MBX'es), and secondly coz I'm (subjectivelly) so used to the look&feel of this emailer with it's classic icon-set.
At the wery first glance I liked the way how this project was started i.e. how Ted tackled it, and really believe that the only way Eudora can (and will) be revived is by the concentrated effort of real (idealistic, enthusiastic ?) lovers, and not driven by commercial reasons.
And finally, I wish all of you to have the endurance to finalize HERMES, although I'm confident that, once the project was started, there will be many others which will come - it's just a matter of time...
Further, I'm also confident that, once brought to live by the "old generation" lovers/developpers, the nwer generation will also jump in.
Thanks !
Last edit: Johann Doniga 2019-10-16
Hello Johann,
I share your concerns, particularly the last 25 years correspondence.
I did write something to 'rip' it all to text files, but they were huge and not indexed very well, so I am trying to help the team to revive Eudora.
I have also found that, provided you replace the .dlls as discussed somewhere in the project, Eudora works OK with POP servers, and has only one significant bug when dealing with IMAP servers: the CheckMail button doesn't work, and neither does the "check every n minutes", so you have to stop and restart all the time.
Regards,
Colin.