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I am stopping work on this project

2018-09-02
2018-09-08
  • Pete Maclean

    Pete Maclean - 2018-09-02

    This project has no apparent leadership, little discussion, no
    coordination, negligible achievement and no clearly documented goal.
    Furthermore, I am the only person who has committed any code in the last
    six weeks and it seems that there are only two of us left, Soren and I,
    with any interest in it. For several reasons I am not willing to take over
    leadership and I am therefore giving up, at least for the moment. If it
    happens that the project is brought to life again at any time, I may be
    willing to return to work on it.

    Pete Maclean

     
    • Soren Bro

      Soren Bro - 2018-09-02

      Do I still have commit permissions?

      On Sun, Sep 2, 2018 at 7:28 PM Pete Maclean petemaclean@users.sourceforge.net wrote:

      This project has no apparent leadership, little discussion, no
      coordination, negligible achievement and no clearly documented goal.
      Furthermore, I am the only person who has committed any code in the last
      six weeks and it seems that there are only two of us left, Soren and I,
      with any interest in it. For several reasons I am not willing to take over
      leadership and I am therefore giving up, at least for the moment. If it
      happens that the project is brought to life again at any time, I may be
      willing to return to work on it.

      Pete Maclean

      I am stopping work on this project
      https://sourceforge.net/p/hermesmail/discussion/general/thread/438cc7e0/?limit=25#e55e


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      • Soren Bro

        Soren Bro - 2018-09-02

        I might simply rewrite the program, and see how much I can do without.
        In principle I just need read access so I can create a new one.

        Regards.

        On Sun, Sep 2, 2018 at 10:12 PM sbrothy@gmail.com wrote:

        Do I still have commit permissions?

        On Sun, Sep 2, 2018 at 7:28 PM Pete Maclean petemaclean@users.sourceforge.net wrote:

        This project has no apparent leadership, little discussion, no
        coordination, negligible achievement and no clearly documented goal.
        Furthermore, I am the only person who has committed any code in the last
        six weeks and it seems that there are only two of us left, Soren and I,
        with any interest in it. For several reasons I am not willing to take over
        leadership and I am therefore giving up, at least for the moment. If it
        happens that the project is brought to life again at any time, I may be
        willing to return to work on it.

        Pete Maclean

        I am stopping work on this project
        https://sourceforge.net/p/hermesmail/discussion/general/thread/438cc7e0/?limit=25#e55e


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        • Soren Bro

          Soren Bro - 2018-09-02

          And FYII: The reason I haven't done any commits is because of problems with
          mercurial. It will solve itself suddenly.

          Regards.

          On Sun, Sep 2, 2018 at 10:13 PM sbrothy@gmail.com wrote:

          I might simply rewrite the program, and see how much I can do without.
          In principle I just need read access so I can create a new one.

          Regards.

          On Sun, Sep 2, 2018 at 10:12 PM sbrothy@gmail.com wrote:

          Do I still have commit permissions?

          On Sun, Sep 2, 2018 at 7:28 PM Pete Maclean petemaclean@users.sourceforge.net wrote:

          This project has no apparent leadership, little discussion, no
          coordination, negligible achievement and no clearly documented goal.
          Furthermore, I am the only person who has committed any code in the last
          six weeks and it seems that there are only two of us left, Soren and I,
          with any interest in it. For several reasons I am not willing to take
          over
          leadership and I am therefore giving up, at least for the moment. If it
          happens that the project is brought to life again at any time, I may be
          willing to return to work on it.

          Pete Maclean

          I am stopping work on this project
          https://sourceforge.net/p/hermesmail/discussion/general/thread/438cc7e0/?limit=25#e55e


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    • Mike Blaszczak

      Mike Blaszczak - 2018-09-07

      Hello!

      I'm here after replying to a solicitation on Reddit for C++ developers. I have a ton of MFC experience, and can probably help out.

      I'm troubled by this post. I don't see any plans or team documentation, so I'm wondering how the team communicates goals, sets priorities, and so on ... what's the development process here?

       
      • Ted Matavka

        Ted Matavka - 2018-09-07

        As mentioned, I previously used eMail rather than thinking to use the Sourceforge discussion boards. This meant that certain people were accidentally excluded from planning, etc.; the Org file which is essentially a complete project plan, including who's responsible for what, plus justifications, etc, is now in Downloads.

         
        • Soren Bro

          Soren Bro - 2018-09-07

          Again. I'd suggest someone creates an official IRC channel on FREENODE for
          the project. Mail and forum communication is just not the same as an actual
          dedicated chat channel .

          Regards.

          On Fri, Sep 7, 2018 at 5:48 AM Ted Matavka nmatavka@users.sourceforge.net
          wrote:

          As mentioned, I previously used eMail rather than thinking to use the
          Sourceforge discussion boards. This meant that certain people were
          accidentally excluded from planning, etc.; the Org file which is
          essentially a complete project plan, including who's responsible for what,
          plus justifications, etc, is now in Downloads.


          I am stopping work on this project
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        • Mike Blaszczak

          Mike Blaszczak - 2018-09-08

          As mentioned, I previously used eMail

          Sorry to make you repeat yourself, but I just don't see that conversation.

          I'm afraid I won't be able to effectively contribute to this project, but thank you for your consideration.

           
          • Ted Matavka

            Ted Matavka - 2018-09-08

            Which conversation? The "as mentioned" bit? That was a reference to a private eMail conversation I was having with Pete. He was the one that put QCSSL together (he's still on the project, by the way—we seem to have worked out many of our differences).

            Søren has already put in a request to open a Freenode IRC channel, and we'll use that and the message boards. He also, if I'm not mistaken, sent you a message that he'd like to coöperate with you on MFC.

            As for me, I'll try to put in some work on the spell checker.

            The link below is my "brain dump" for this project: it's a combination of outline, roadmap, tasks done, and tasks to do, with justifications and reasoning sprinkled throughout. It's editable by everyone and shows your edits in different colours. If you're unable to collaborate by eMail, why not read this at the very least, see how we've allocated work, and at least see if one or more of the tasks strikes your fancy?

            https://pad.riseup.net/p/hermes-keep

             
  • Ted Matavka

    Ted Matavka - 2018-09-03

    Well, I'm sorry you feel that way :( I would really like to see this project get off the ground; I have been working behind the scenes but got bogged down in other work meanwhile. I'm back and working both on this project and on "hermesancil" (ancillary files, including i18n and help)

     

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