[Helidelinux-devel] Re: Helide linux

[Hui Z. <zh...@wa...>]

On Mon, Mar 08, 2004 at 01:30:46PM -0500, Bennett Todd wrote:
> 	bpmbuild filename
> 
> then bpmbuild would use wget to download the sources, then it'd
> unpack them, build them, and prepare the binary package. The binary
> package would have all the files that were populated by that "make
> install", plus these three:
How do you determine the files created by make install, install-log or
with an empty prefix directory?
> 
> 	/var/lib/bpm/nmap-3.50/spec
> 	/var/lib/bpm/nmap-3.50/src/nmap-3.50.tar.bz2
> 	/var/lib/bpm/nmap-3.50/sha1
> 
> The spec file is a copy of the file you fed to bpmbuild, and the
> src/nmap-3.50.tar.bz2 is a copy of what wget pulled down. The sha1
> is the output of find ... -type f|xargs openssl sha1, a manifest
> with crypto checksums.

Why you put both the spec and src files and the binary files into the
bpm packages? IMHO, if one want to install binary, they don't need
spec and src, and vice versa. Why don't you distribute two sets of
packages, one only with specs or maybe sources as well for
installation from sources or just preparing the binary packages. The
other are binary only and install with bzip2 and cpio? Am I right if I
am lazy enough I can just obtain the binary part and install a system?

> Yup. My current installer is
> 
> 	bzip2 -d <pkg.cpio.bz2|(cd / && cpio -idm)
> 
> > what's the major difference from rpm?
> 
> There's little in common.
Rpm just includes the binary package and a spec for more versatile
installation and configuration and dependency tracking. The current
bpm is simpler because it uses no-custom installation and
no-configuration and no-dependency (I haven't read your actual
implementation yet, these are my understanding from your description,
correct me mercilessly if I am wrong and accept my appology). Have you
considered using rpm with extremely simple installation spec for the
binary only distribution?
> 
> bpm's spec files are vastly simpler.
> 
> bpm binary packages are true cpio.bz2s --- no special tools required
> to install them.
> 
> The bpm database in /var/lib/bpm/ is simple text files, not the
What does it look like? How did you populate the data base if you only
install with bzp2|cpio?

> opaque binary databases built with the non-free, proprietary
> Berkeley DB, that rpm puts into /var/lib/rpm/.
> 
That is a rightful reason.


-Hui