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From: Mario Z. <mar...@ya...> - 2009-08-11 00:21:21
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I believe what you say! I'm still struggling with it on Windows to get System.errs output for instance :( Also I got Prosciutto to run, but it shows nothing (all screen blank), yet I know it's running because of some tweaks I speciifcally made to see if it is in control - setCurrent to a Textbox class works at some point. I don't know what's happening with my Canvas thing anyway. If you manage to get system.err / system.out outputs, then maybe you'll find that it is loaded but for some reason it couldn't take control of the screen? I don't know I'm just guessing Please let the list know if you manage to get the stderr / stdout streams properly thanks regards Mario ________________________________ From: David Welton <dav...@gm...> To: Hecl Devel <hec...@li...> Sent: Monday, August 10, 2009 7:02:23 PM Subject: [Hecl-devel] Phew... BB Emulator running Now all I need to do is find out why Hecl hangs when I try and load it. java -jar ~/tmp/BlackBerryJDE/bin/rapc.jar import="/home/davidw/tmp/BlackBerryJDE/lib/net_rim_api.jar" codename="Hecl" -midlet Hecl.jad Hecl.jar Creates the .cod file, but the thing sits there loading...loading...loading. Strange:-/ Any ideas? I'll try and write up the BB emulator struggle when I get a moment tomorrow. It's really not the easiest thing to get working on Linux... -- David N. Welton http://www.welton.it/davidw/ http://www.dedasys.com/ Sent from Padua, Veneto, Italy ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Let Crystal Reports handle the reporting - Free Crystal Reports 2008 30-Day trial. Simplify your report design, integration and deployment - and focus on what you do best, core application coding. Discover what's new with Crystal Reports now. http://p.sf.net/sfu/bobj-july _______________________________________________ Hecl-devel mailing list Hec...@li... https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/hecl-devel |
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From: David W. <dav...@gm...> - 2009-08-10 22:02:42
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Now all I need to do is find out why Hecl hangs when I try and load it. java -jar ~/tmp/BlackBerryJDE/bin/rapc.jar import="/home/davidw/tmp/BlackBerryJDE/lib/net_rim_api.jar" codename="Hecl" -midlet Hecl.jad Hecl.jar Creates the .cod file, but the thing sits there loading...loading...loading. Strange:-/ Any ideas? I'll try and write up the BB emulator struggle when I get a moment tomorrow. It's really not the easiest thing to get working on Linux... -- David N. Welton http://www.welton.it/davidw/ http://www.dedasys.com/ Sent from Padua, Veneto, Italy |
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From: David W. <dav...@gm...> - 2009-08-10 07:03:49
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I also think it is probably time to switch to a numbered release system... -- David N. Welton http://www.welton.it/davidw/ http://www.dedasys.com/ Sent from Padua, Veneto, Italy |
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From: David W. <da...@de...> - 2009-08-05 22:30:18
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> This patch will make the canvas event keyname consistent accross handset.
> Particularly this patch make the MIDP 2.0 canvas example works on my Nokia 1680c
This looks ok to me; anyone else care to comment?
I had a look through HeclCanvas, and there are some other bits like this:
try {
// Siemens (S65)
Class.forName("com.siemens.mp.lcdui.Image");
KEYCODE_LEFT_SK = -1;
KEYCODE_RIGHT_SK = -4;
} catch (ClassNotFoundException e1) {
Which make it so that the code is only present on the 'offending'
phones. I wonder if it would be possible to do this.
Incidentally, that looks like a nice phone to test on, thanks for your
work! I have my eye open on cheaper phones as I think you could make
some fun games for kids with them:
http://journal.dedasys.com/2009/07/27/something-id-like-to-see-cheap-j2me-device
Although the ideal thing would be something that doesn't make calls at
all! I don't want the police showing up if my daughter accidentally
keys in the emergency number:-)
--
David N. Welton
http://www.welton.it/davidw/
http://www.dedasys.com/
Sent from Padua, Veneto, Italy
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From: Mario Z. <mar...@ya...> - 2009-08-04 13:58:22
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Dear Prosciutto and Hecl lists, I have found Blackberry development is quite hard in terms of setting up the right environment [1][2][3]. As of this moment, Research In Motion does not support the latest version of Eclipse (3.5, particularly the Pulsar distribution) for their Eclipse plugin. Here's a ticket description: https://www.blackberry.com/jira/browse/TOOL-14 If such ticket gets enough votes, this will get attention from RIM and they would ultimately assign some resource to finally fix it and release a new plugin. So please, take 1 minute and enter https://www.blackberry.com/jira/browse/TOOL-14 and vote for this issue to get their attention. Thanks and sorry for the slight off-topic Regards Mario [1]http://prosciutto.boutiquestartups.com/index.php?op=ViewArticle&articleId=32&blogId=1 [2]http://prosciutto.boutiquestartups.com/index.php?op=ViewArticle&articleId=54&blogId=1 [3]http://prosciutto.boutiquestartups.com/index.php?op=ViewArticle&articleId=55&blogId=1 |
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From: Mario Z. <mar...@ya...> - 2009-08-03 20:37:11
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All great news, looking forward to see how all of this develops :) I will let you know as well through this list Please let me know if you need someone to test something or whatever else Regards Mario ________________________________ From: David Welton <da...@de...> To: Hecl Devel <hec...@li...> Sent: Monday, August 3, 2009 4:58:35 PM Subject: Re: [Hecl-devel] Hecl on BlackBerry > What kind of work are you starting, actually? Are you integrating Hecl and > the IDE? I'm trying Eclipse Pulsar distribution right now as to see if I can > get the Blackberry debugger to attach What I'll be working on is to make sure that Hecl can access all the BB native API's, and make sure that it's easy to create new BB apps from scripts with as little fuss as possible. > Let's share experiences on this through Hecl's mailing list if you are OK I will be conducting this development "out in the open", so yes, definitely on the mailing list. -- David N. Welton http://www.welton.it/davidw/ http://www.dedasys.com/ Sent from Padua, Veneto, Italy ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Let Crystal Reports handle the reporting - Free Crystal Reports 2008 30-Day trial. Simplify your report design, integration and deployment - and focus on what you do best, core application coding. Discover what's new with Crystal Reports now. http://p.sf.net/sfu/bobj-july _______________________________________________ Hecl-devel mailing list Hec...@li... https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/hecl-devel |
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From: David W. <da...@de...> - 2009-08-03 19:58:48
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> What kind of work are you starting, actually? Are you integrating Hecl and > the IDE? I'm trying Eclipse Pulsar distribution right now as to see if I can > get the Blackberry debugger to attach What I'll be working on is to make sure that Hecl can access all the BB native API's, and make sure that it's easy to create new BB apps from scripts with as little fuss as possible. > Let's share experiences on this through Hecl's mailing list if you are OK I will be conducting this development "out in the open", so yes, definitely on the mailing list. -- David N. Welton http://www.welton.it/davidw/ http://www.dedasys.com/ Sent from Padua, Veneto, Italy |
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From: Mario Z. <mar...@ya...> - 2009-08-03 13:03:41
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This is great news! I'm doing the same on Prosciutto and I am most probably going to need some help to make Hecl run on BlackBerry as well :) What kind of work are you starting, actually? Are you integrating Hecl and the IDE? I'm trying Eclipse Pulsar distribution right now as to see if I can get the Blackberry debugger to attach Let's share experiences on this through Hecl's mailing list if you are OK Thanks, Mario ________________________________ From: David Welton <da...@de...> To: Hecl Devel <hec...@li...> Sent: Monday, August 3, 2009 2:15:16 AM Subject: Re: [Hecl-devel] Hecl on BlackBerry > Have you been able to debug Hecl or any piece of java on BlackBerry? It looks like things are all set for this project to go forward very soon: I'll be doing some work to integrate Hecl with the BlackBerry environment. -- David N. Welton http://www.welton.it/davidw/ http://www.dedasys.com/ Sent from Padua, Veneto, Italy ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Let Crystal Reports handle the reporting - Free Crystal Reports 2008 30-Day trial. Simplify your report design, integration and deployment - and focus on what you do best, core application coding. Discover what's new with Crystal Reports now. http://p.sf.net/sfu/bobj-july _______________________________________________ Hecl-devel mailing list Hec...@li... https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/hecl-devel |
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From: David W. <da...@de...> - 2009-08-03 05:15:23
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> Have you been able to debug Hecl or any piece of java on BlackBerry? It looks like things are all set for this project to go forward very soon: I'll be doing some work to integrate Hecl with the BlackBerry environment. -- David N. Welton http://www.welton.it/davidw/ http://www.dedasys.com/ Sent from Padua, Veneto, Italy |
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From: Zakaria <z4...@gm...> - 2009-08-03 03:12:36
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Either I misunderstand what you're saying or you forget your own code :-)
The MIDP documentation states:
The default coordinate system's origin is at the upper left-hand
corner of the destination. The X-axis direction is positive towards
the right, and the Y-axis direction is positive downwards.
Applications may assume that horizontal and vertical distances in
the coordinate system represent equal distances on the actual device
display, that is, pixels are square. A facility is provided for
translating the origin of the coordinate system. All coordinates are
specified as integers.
http://java.sun.com/javame/reference/apis/jsr118/javax/microedition/lcdui/Graphics.html
Currently in Hecl Canvas the X=0 and Y=0 position is in lower left, NOT
in the upper left as the MIDP 2.0 said. So currently Hecl recalculate
all the Y coordinates from 0 on the top to 0 on the bottom. A waste of
CPU and batteries like you said. From what I can read from the source
files it's in the midp20gui/org/graphics/Drawable.java lines 586:
protected int toY(int y) {
//System.err.println("toY("+y+") - h="+h+ ", h1="+h1+ " --> " + (h1-y));
return h1-y;
}
The files said you're the author.
So, which is going to be?
On Fri, Jul 31, 2009 at 10:38 PM, Wolfgang S.
Kechel<wol...@da...> wrote:
> Changing this causes a recalculation of the coords for every drawing
> operation and it when dealing with event coordinates.
> Not very useful on a handset since it waists COU cycles and battery.
>
> Zakaria wrote:
>> Hi fellow mobile scripter,
>>
>> Is there any good reason to change
>> the 0,0 canvas coordinate from the top-left to bottom-left?
>>
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>>
>> -- Zakaria
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From: Mario Z. <mar...@ya...> - 2009-08-01 17:16:26
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Oh, I'm sorry to hear so! I'll post a solution as soon as I get this to work Hope your project gets back on track soon :) Thanks Regards Mario ________________________________ From: Chris D <un...@ho...> To: Hecl Devel <hec...@li...> Sent: Saturday, August 1, 2009 1:42:35 PM Subject: Re: [Hecl-devel] Hecl on BlackBerry Sorry Mario, My mobile project is on hold for the time being. I never got to the point where I needed a debugger on BB. Regards, Chris ________________________________ Date: Fri, 31 Jul 2009 19:06:13 -0700 From: mar...@ya... To: da...@de...; hec...@li... Subject: Re: [Hecl-devel] Hecl on BlackBerry Chris, David Have you been able to debug Hecl or any piece of java on BlackBerry? I'm struggling to attach my debugger to the BB JWDP server, it connects but quickly disconnects. Anything will be of help Thanks Regards Mario ________________________________ From: David Welton <da...@de...> To: Hecl Devel <hec...@li...> Sent: Wednesday, June 24, 2009 2:08:50 AM Subject: Re: [Hecl-devel] Hecl on BlackBerry > I just noticed a reference to this article on slashdot. The article gives a > developer's recount of his BB app development experience, including selling > through the new(ish) app store. > > "An Experiment in BlackBerry Development" > > http://www.versatilemonkey.com/story.html I bumped into that myself yesterday, and it's exactly the kind of thing I was looking for - thanks for posting it! -- David N. Welton http://www.welton.it/davidw/ http://www.dedasys.com/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ _______________________________________________ Hecl-devel mailing list Hec...@li... https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/hecl-devel |
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From: Chris D <un...@ho...> - 2009-08-01 16:42:47
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Sorry Mario, My mobile project is on hold for the time being. I never got to the point where I needed a debugger on BB. Regards, Chris Date: Fri, 31 Jul 2009 19:06:13 -0700 From: mar...@ya... To: da...@de...; hec...@li... Subject: Re: [Hecl-devel] Hecl on BlackBerry Chris, David Have you been able to debug Hecl or any piece of java on BlackBerry? I'm struggling to attach my debugger to the BB JWDP server, it connects but quickly disconnects. Anything will be of help Thanks Regards Mario From: David Welton <da...@de...> To: Hecl Devel <hec...@li...> Sent: Wednesday, June 24, 2009 2:08:50 AM Subject: Re: [Hecl-devel] Hecl on BlackBerry > I just noticed a reference to this article on slashdot. The article gives a > developer's recount of his BB app development experience, including selling > through the new(ish) app store. > > "An Experiment in BlackBerry Development" > > http://www.versatilemonkey.com/story.html I bumped into that myself yesterday, and it's exactly the kind of thing I was looking for - thanks for posting it! -- David N. Welton http://www.welton.it/davidw/ http://www.dedasys.com/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ _______________________________________________ Hecl-devel mailing list Hec...@li... https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/hecl-devel |
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From: Mario Z. <mar...@ya...> - 2009-08-01 02:06:20
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Chris, David Have you been able to debug Hecl or any piece of java on BlackBerry? I'm struggling to attach my debugger to the BB JWDP server, it connects but quickly disconnects. Anything will be of help Thanks Regards Mario ________________________________ From: David Welton <da...@de...> To: Hecl Devel <hec...@li...> Sent: Wednesday, June 24, 2009 2:08:50 AM Subject: Re: [Hecl-devel] Hecl on BlackBerry > I just noticed a reference to this article on slashdot. The article gives a > developer's recount of his BB app development experience, including selling > through the new(ish) app store. > > "An Experiment in BlackBerry Development" > > http://www.versatilemonkey.com/story.html I bumped into that myself yesterday, and it's exactly the kind of thing I was looking for - thanks for posting it! -- David N. Welton http://www.welton.it/davidw/ http://www.dedasys.com/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ _______________________________________________ Hecl-devel mailing list Hec...@li... https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/hecl-devel |
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From: Zakaria <z4...@gm...> - 2009-07-31 12:54:21
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Hi fellow mobile scripter, Is there any good reason to change the 0,0 canvas coordinate from the top-left to bottom-left? Regards, -- Zakaria z4...@gm... Yahoo!: z4k4ri4 http://tukangprogram.com http://pemula.linux.or.id |
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From: Zakaria <z4...@gm...> - 2009-07-31 12:38:06
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Hi fellow mobile scripter, This patch will make the canvas event keyname consistent accross handset. Particularly this patch make the MIDP 2.0 canvas example works on my Nokia 1680c Regards, -- Zakaria z4...@gm... Yahoo!: z4k4ri4 http://tukangprogram.com http://pemula.linux.or.id |
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From: David W. <da...@ap...> - 2009-07-25 10:48:00
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Hi, sorry for the delay... have been disconnected from the world, on vacation.
> I've just got Hecl working on my Android based HTC Magic phone and it
> works great. This is just to let you know what issues I ran into and
> to provide a patch for working with the current release of the Android
> SDK.
Cool, glad to hear it works! How is the phone, compared to say, a
nice Nokia? I'm very seriously considering getting one, next time I
get a new phone.
> I checked out the current subversion code and attempted to install the
> prebuilt apk image that is already available.
> $ adb install android/bin/Hecl.apk
> 553 KB/s (97529 bytes in 0.172s)
> pkg: /data/local/tmp/Hecl.apk
> Failure [INSTALL_PARSE_FAILED_MANIFEST_MALFORMED]
>
> Clearly there is some trouble here so I followed the build
> instructions on my linux box to try and rebuild the apk file.
> Evidently the current build instructions are oriented for the 1.0
> version of the android sdk as various tools have now moved. I'm
> attaching a patch that shows how I worked around this by selecting the
> right locations and forcing the creation of the ${external-libs}
> directory which looks like it is for additional jar files. If this is
> not present (as it is not when I do a build from a clean checkout)
> then the build halts.
>
> With this patch applied it built fine using 'ant android-debug' and I
> installed it successfully onto the phone and ran the demo. Excellent
> stuff. I guess you could probably add the HTC Magic to the set of
> working phones.
Great - I added the patch and committed it - thank you!
--
David N. Welton
http://www.welton.it/davidw/
http://www.dedasys.com/
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From: David W. <da...@de...> - 2009-07-25 07:04:45
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Hi, sorry for being a bit slow to respond - I was on vacation with no internet access. > First of all like to say thanks for creating Hecl. For a long time I've > been looking for ways to create program on my mobile. While I think Hecl > doesn't fulfill it the way I want to, but I think it worthy my time to > improve it. You're welcome. I'd be curious to know how you think it could be improved. > OK, lets straight to the problem. My phone is Nokia 1680 Classic an > entry-level J2ME phone. I've bought it around $65, a perfect guinea pig > for Hecl. > > When I try Hecl midlet theres no icon showed. > > After comparing with other midlet notably MidpSsh, > it look like there is a bug in the Hecl.jad and the manifest. > > In MidpSsh the line goes like this: > MIDlet-1: MidpSSH, /small.png, app.Main > But in Hecl the line looks like this: > MIDlet-1: Hecl, , Hecl > > So in the interest for an icon in my Hecl, attached with this email is > the patch to make Hecl midlet show an icon. Thanks! I have applied your patch and committed the changes. -- David N. Welton http://www.welton.it/davidw/ http://www.dedasys.com/ Sent from Padua, Veneto, Italy |
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From: Zakaria <z4...@gm...> - 2009-07-21 07:43:49
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Hi, First of all like to say thanks for creating Hecl. For a long time I've been looking for ways to create program on my mobile. While I think Hecl doesn't fulfill it the way I want to, but I think it worthy my time to improve it. OK, lets straight to the problem. My phone is Nokia 1680 Classic an entry-level J2ME phone. I've bought it around $65, a perfect guinea pig for Hecl. When I try Hecl midlet theres no icon showed. After comparing with other midlet notably MidpSsh, it look like there is a bug in the Hecl.jad and the manifest. In MidpSsh the line goes like this: MIDlet-1: MidpSSH, /small.png, app.Main But in Hecl the line looks like this: MIDlet-1: Hecl, , Hecl So in the interest for an icon in my Hecl, attached with this email is the patch to make Hecl midlet show an icon. Regards, -- Zakaria z4...@gm... Yahoo!: z4k4ri4 http://pemula.linux.or.id Mau invite gmail? japri aja. |
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From: David W. <da...@de...> - 2009-06-24 05:11:31
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> I just noticed a reference to this article on slashdot. The article gives a > developer's recount of his BB app development experience, including selling > through the new(ish) app store. > > "An Experiment in BlackBerry Development" > > http://www.versatilemonkey.com/story.html I bumped into that myself yesterday, and it's exactly the kind of thing I was looking for - thanks for posting it! -- David N. Welton http://www.welton.it/davidw/ http://www.dedasys.com/ |
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From: Mario Z. <mar...@ya...> - 2009-06-23 22:59:40
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Chris, this is a great post! Thanks for sharing! ________________________________ From: Chris D <un...@ho...> To: Hecl Devel <hec...@li...> Sent: Tuesday, June 23, 2009 6:42:53 AM Subject: Re: [Hecl-devel] Hecl on BlackBerry Hi David, I just noticed a reference to this article on slashdot. The article gives a developer's recount of his BB app development experience, including selling through the new(ish) app store. "An Experiment in BlackBerry Development" http://www.versatilemonkey.com/story.html Chris > Date: Sun, 21 Jun 2009 23:09:31 +0200 > From: da...@de... > To: hec...@li... > Subject: Re: [Hecl-devel] Hecl on BlackBerry > > Speaking of Hecl and Blackberry: > > What can you guys tell me about BB? > > I have a client who is potentially interested in paying for some work on a port. > > * What's the difference between their GUI API and the regular old Java > ME stuff? Can you run plain old Java ME apps? Do they look awful/out > of place/not work quite right? > > * It's only possible to develop on Windows... correct? > > Thanks, > -- > David N. Welton > > http://www.welton.it/davidw/ > > http://www.dedasys.com/ > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Are you an open source citizen? Join us for the Open Source Bridge conference! > Portland, OR, June 17-19. Two days of sessions, one day of unconference: $250. > Need another reason to go? 24-hour hacker lounge. Register today! > http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;215844324;13503038;v?http://opensourcebridge.org > _______________________________________________ > Hecl-devel mailing list > Hec...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/hecl-devel ________________________________ We are your photos. Share us now with Windows Live Photos. |
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From: Chris D <un...@ho...> - 2009-06-23 09:45:06
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Hi David, I just noticed a reference to this article on slashdot. The article gives a developer's recount of his BB app development experience, including selling through the new(ish) app store. "An Experiment in BlackBerry Development" http://www.versatilemonkey.com/story.html Chris > Date: Sun, 21 Jun 2009 23:09:31 +0200 > From: da...@de... > To: hec...@li... > Subject: Re: [Hecl-devel] Hecl on BlackBerry > > Speaking of Hecl and Blackberry: > > What can you guys tell me about BB? > > I have a client who is potentially interested in paying for some work on a port. > > * What's the difference between their GUI API and the regular old Java > ME stuff? Can you run plain old Java ME apps? Do they look awful/out > of place/not work quite right? > > * It's only possible to develop on Windows... correct? > > Thanks, > -- > David N. Welton > > http://www.welton.it/davidw/ > > http://www.dedasys.com/ > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Are you an open source citizen? Join us for the Open Source Bridge conference! > Portland, OR, June 17-19. Two days of sessions, one day of unconference: $250. > Need another reason to go? 24-hour hacker lounge. Register today! > http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;215844324;13503038;v?http://opensourcebridge.org > _______________________________________________ > Hecl-devel mailing list > Hec...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/hecl-devel _________________________________________________________________ We are your photos. Share us now with Windows Live Photos. http://go.microsoft.com/?linkid=9666047 |
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From: Chris D <un...@ho...> - 2009-06-22 11:40:37
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Hi David,
I've only begun dabbling with J2ME, but as I understand it J2ME apps will run but they need to be repackaged first. RIM provides a utility that will repackage your .jad as a .cod.
Overall, I got the sense (from the BB web site and available tools) that their bread and butter is the enterprise market, so the J2ME support is there, but RIM does not put a lot of focus in supporting the small guy.
When I tried my hecl app on BB I found that I could not access the network APIs due to security restrictions and the little bit of gui that worked did not look great. I also found that the icon for the app did not get automatically transferred over by the packaging utility, so the app had a cheesy default icon.
Chris
> Date: Sun, 21 Jun 2009 23:09:31 +0200
> From: da...@de...
> To: hec...@li...
> Subject: Re: [Hecl-devel] Hecl on BlackBerry
>
> Speaking of Hecl and Blackberry:
>
> What can you guys tell me about BB?
>
> I have a client who is potentially interested in paying for some work on a port.
>
> * What's the difference between their GUI API and the regular old Java
> ME stuff? Can you run plain old Java ME apps? Do they look awful/out
> of place/not work quite right?
>
> * It's only possible to develop on Windows... correct?
>
> Thanks,
> --
> David N. Welton
>
> http://www.welton.it/davidw/
>
> http://www.dedasys.com/
>
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
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From: David W. <da...@de...> - 2009-06-21 21:09:34
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Speaking of Hecl and Blackberry: What can you guys tell me about BB? I have a client who is potentially interested in paying for some work on a port. * What's the difference between their GUI API and the regular old Java ME stuff? Can you run plain old Java ME apps? Do they look awful/out of place/not work quite right? * It's only possible to develop on Windows... correct? Thanks, -- David N. Welton http://www.welton.it/davidw/ http://www.dedasys.com/ |
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From: Mario Z. <mar...@ya...> - 2009-06-18 14:20:51
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Hi Dennis As a matter of fact I'm just starting talks with the guys at Open Mobile Consortium and the JavaROSA guys (which happens to be partially the same group, lol), and if I got it correctly, their primary goal is to set up an open source code base for mobile apps that help in health care mostly, like enquirires and so. Actually JavaROSA is mostly aimed at data collection through XForms. I'd love to learn more about your thoughts Dennis, I also think 15 years is still a lot of time and people will need it. Cheers, Mario ________________________________ From: Dennis m s <neo...@gm...> To: Martin Mainusch <DO...@gm...> Cc: hec...@li... Sent: Thursday, June 18, 2009 2:58:35 AM Subject: Re: [Hecl-devel] Prosciutto gets power from Hecl In light of recent developments..personally i believe hecl and proscuitto holds tremendous potential for rural and developing areas since mobile phones are predominatly the "computing" device of choice..,i was just struck by an idea and thought i would pass it by you guys,..my final year project has given me convinient grounding in java card. Though not yet open source i believe we can find a way of integrating java card,proscuitto and hecl, in a way...,since java card based GSM SIM card are predominately used in Africa..GSM networks take vitually 95% of the telecom market here (i am sure this is relected in other 3rd world areas) and monochrome non java based devices are most widespread(though this is slowly changing thanks to nokia), however full blown intergration would mean these three "technologies" could enhance end user interaction on higher end java based devices while java card would provide a bare bones application interface to those with low end monochrome phones, ofcourse..i anticipate that these devices will be pahsed out in about 15 years..and UMTS will be full blown,but until then we could still give people the best there is. On Thu, Jun 18, 2009 at 7:48 AM, Martin Mainusch <DO...@gm...> wrote: Hi Mario, >I have just finished doing some work and have wrote a blog post about it, that I thought you might want to have a look at :) Congratulation !!! It's sounds pretty good. I've read your blog and I'm curious about it. You mentioned some examples in your blog, I'll waiting for it, so I don't have to start from scratch! So far I understand it, it is just the "standard" Hecl.jar inside. How about some extensions, for example what about mwt-lib. And are you using the kxml-hecl lib ??? If the extensions are not there how hard is it to integrate it into Prosciutto? Is that possible at all? Thanks a lot! Ciao, Martin -- GRATIS für alle GMX-Mitglieder: Die maxdome Movie-FLAT! Jetzt freischalten unter http://portal.gmx.net/de/go/maxdome01 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Crystal Reports - New Free Runtime and 30 Day Trial Check out the new simplified licensing option that enables unlimited royalty-free distribution of the report engine for externally facing server and web deployment. http://p.sf.net/sfu/businessobjects _______________________________________________ Hecl-devel mailing list Hec...@li... https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/hecl-devel |
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From: Mario Z. <mar...@ya...> - 2009-06-18 14:09:49
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Martin thanks for your words! You can use whatever extensions you'd need, I'm only packaging the hecl.jar but I'll take your advise and make various versions with all Hecl flavors for sure! And it will include mwt and kxml extensions for sure. About kxml, it is already integrated into Prosciutto so I think it might be needed to give it some tweaks, I'm not sure how it's integrated into Hecl but I guess if it's the standard way then there won't be any problems. I do have to write more sort of a tutorial, so anyone can move in 2 or 3 steps and have a running application in no time. As well as the examples of course. But it takes time!! I hoped the day had 30 hours! hahah I'll post more soon here I suggest you subscribe to the mailing list as well http://groups.google.com/group/prosciutto for any details as well Thanks Regards Mario ________________________________ From: Martin Mainusch <DO...@gm...> To: hec...@li... Sent: Thursday, June 18, 2009 1:48:40 AM Subject: Re: [Hecl-devel] Prosciutto gets power from Hecl Hi Mario, >I have just finished doing some work and have wrote a blog post about it, that I thought you might want to have a look at :) Congratulation !!! It's sounds pretty good. I've read your blog and I'm curious about it. You mentioned some examples in your blog, I'll waiting for it, so I don't have to start from scratch! So far I understand it, it is just the "standard" Hecl.jar inside. How about some extensions, for example what about mwt-lib. And are you using the kxml-hecl lib ??? If the extensions are not there how hard is it to integrate it into Prosciutto? Is that possible at all? Thanks a lot! Ciao, Martin -- GRATIS für alle GMX-Mitglieder: Die maxdome Movie-FLAT! Jetzt freischalten unter http://portal.gmx.net/de/go/maxdome01 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Crystal Reports - New Free Runtime and 30 Day Trial Check out the new simplified licensing option that enables unlimited royalty-free distribution of the report engine for externally facing server and web deployment. http://p.sf.net/sfu/businessobjects _______________________________________________ Hecl-devel mailing list Hec...@li... https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/hecl-devel |
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