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From: Frank S. <vk...@ix...> - 2000-10-08 20:48:49
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Luc Langehegermann wrote: > > > No Problem... Wat exactly do you need? Or can I simply scan the description > and Mail it to the list? > I sent you a private mail outlining what I need. Please take a look at that. ;-) > > I find your project really interesting. But at a first time, I need 'only' a > way to provide transceiver control in my PSK31 Application. But maybe if I > find the time I will begin in writing an cool KDE2 frontend for your libs :) That would be most excellent, nothing like a screenshot or two of a cool GUI to spice up a project :-) > > The problem I have is, that I cannot access the cvs directly from here... It > there a way to get snapshots over HTTP? > You should be able to get nightly cvs tarballs from http://cvs.sourceforge.net/cvstarballs/hamlib-cvsroot.tar.gz Let me know how you go. /Frank -- Frank Singleton VK3FCS Email: victor kilo three foxtrot charlie sierra at ix dot netcom dot com |
From: Luc L. <lx...@qs...> - 2000-10-08 15:55:13
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Hi Folks, > Hi, > Welcome to the hamlib site. Initially I started this > site with 2 shared libs (now potential backends) for the FT747 > and FT847, and they worked ok. I was thinking about > some generic frontend when Stephane joined the project > and helped implement the frontend code and generic API > structure. I think this is definitely a good thing :-) > Just to follow up with your yaesu question, I am updating > backends for the FT747 and FT847. I would be most pleased > if we could see what commonality there is in the command > set for the FT-920 and the others (eg: FT847). > This could help a to reduce a lot of common code. > eg: we could have eg: yaesu.[ch] etc that contain common > stuff. Luc, is it possible to get a copy of the command > set details, so we can check this No Problem... Wat exactly do you need? Or can I simply scan the description and Mail it to the list? > examples are: 5 byte command set , this is true for FT747 > and FT847. > Once again welcome, and let me us know if you want to > join the crew. We have LOTS to do ! I find your project really interesting. But at a first time, I need 'only' a way to provide transceiver control in my PSK31 Application. But maybe if I find the time I will begin in writing an cool KDE2 frontend for your libs :) The problem I have is, that I cannot access the cvs directly from here... It there a way to get snapshots over HTTP? > Cheers / Frank > vk3fcs/km5ws -- Greetings, Luc |
From: Frank S. <vk...@ix...> - 2000-10-02 00:26:32
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Stephane Fillod wrote: > I've finaly reorganized a bit the Hamlib directories, > please see my previous mail for an idea of the new tree. > The common/ directory is to be removed very soon > (-> Attic), all the sources moved to src/ > Ok, > Next, I've played a bit with automake/autoconf. Now, the whole > Hamlib module is ruled by these handy applications. > Once you have the configure.in, and Makfile.am's files, > here is what you need to do in the hamlib dir the first time: > > $ aclocal > $ autoheader > $ automake --add-missing --copy --include-deps > $ autoconf > > If the main Makefile is already generated (by ./configure), > then the sub Makfile will be automatically generated > (ie. no need to re-issue all these commands! make and that's it!). > This is pretty cool, the only thing I've haven't figured > out is the shared lib directory setting. > Right now, these files are located in src/.libs/, icom/.libs/, > ft847/.libs/, and so on. > So if you want to run any of the tests/ dir apps, you will have > to set your LD_LIBRARY_PATH to all these dirs. This is only a quick > work around until we have the backend registering interface. > > $ export LD_LIBRARY_PATH=`pwd`/src/.libs:`pwd`/ft847/.libs:`pwd`/ft747/.libs:`pwd`/icom/.libs > Useful info, Lets put this in in the INSTALL or README file.. > The good news is all of this compile, link, run, and do what > it is supposed to do! Yesterday, I grabbed a MAX232, a handfull of caps > to make a V.24<->CI-V converter, and I am now able to control > my IC706MKIIG using hamlib!!! yipeee :-) go hamlib !! > Well, I still have a bunch of API calls to implement, but that should > be fairly easy with the generic layout. > > Meanwhile, I've added couple of simple features, like convenient > debugging, generic bcd functions, and a printcaps program that dumps > in a human readable form the capabilities of a rig. > There must other changes I forget to mention here, but they're > listed in the CVS rep (BTW, maybe a cvs-commit-digest mailing list would help) > Done, see ham...@li... SHould be visible soon... > Next on the TODO list: the backend registering stuff with dynamic loading.. > Big time! > Yup, sounds good to me. I am in the middle of building a house at the moment, and plan to move in in 4 weeks, so I am VERY BUSY !!!! But I will try and have at least weekly visit and updates .. Cheers / Frank.. -- Frank Singleton VK3FCS Email: victor kilo three foxtrot charlie sierra at ix dot netcom dot com |
From: Stephane F. <f4...@fr...> - 2000-10-01 21:49:52
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Frank Singleton wrote: > > 1. frontend should load appropriate backend lib > at say, rig_init or similar. nope, rig_init is already in use. init_rig isn't ;-) > > 2. multiple instances of same RIG type should not > cause multiple dl_open requests ?? > sure not. Actually, the backend won't be loaded by rig type, but by backend lib! using something like rig_load_backend("ft847"); which would load libhamlib-ft847.so and register it. > 3. Must have way of resolving symbol names for > dlsym(handle, "symbol_name"); stuff. > We need to call dlsym() only once, ie. when the frontend resolves the init_rig symbol. Then, the init_rig function will register the capabilities in the frontend rig list. And that's it! Thanks to the cool API design. > 4. A whole lot more to come, but you see the idea. > Well, very much. The registering and rig_load_backend() are coded, and are working fine! There's only a couple of lines to add in a backend to support it! I haven't commited this code yet, just to let you some time to catch up with the last commit. I will do on monday. > 5. GNU libtool ?? > done already with autoconf/automake stuff > 6. Lots of other stuff to follow... > yup, sure! -- Stephane Fillod F4CFE |
From: Stephane F. <f4...@fr...> - 2000-10-01 14:23:41
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Hi, I can't tell you for the Olympics, I don't have TV. However, I heard on the radio that the french basket ball team made his way to final, beating you know who during their previous game ;-) Besides that, I don't think we have a chance with the USA.. Okay, enough noise, let have some signal: I've finaly reorganized a bit the Hamlib directories, please see my previous mail for an idea of the new tree. The common/ directory is to be removed very soon (-> Attic), all the sources moved to src/ Next, I've played a bit with automake/autoconf. Now, the whole Hamlib module is ruled by these handy applications. Once you have the configure.in, and Makfile.am's files, here is what you need to do in the hamlib dir the first time: $ aclocal $ autoheader $ automake --add-missing --copy --include-deps $ autoconf If the main Makefile is already generated (by ./configure), then the sub Makfile will be automatically generated (ie. no need to re-issue all these commands! make and that's it!). This is pretty cool, the only thing I've haven't figured out is the shared lib directory setting. Right now, these files are located in src/.libs/, icom/.libs/, ft847/.libs/, and so on. So if you want to run any of the tests/ dir apps, you will have to set your LD_LIBRARY_PATH to all these dirs. This is only a quick work around until we have the backend registering interface. $ export LD_LIBRARY_PATH=`pwd`/src/.libs:`pwd`/ft847/.libs:`pwd`/ft747/.libs:`pwd`/icom/.libs The good news is all of this compile, link, run, and do what it is supposed to do! Yesterday, I grabbed a MAX232, a handfull of caps to make a V.24<->CI-V converter, and I am now able to control my IC706MKIIG using hamlib!!! yipeee :-) Well, I still have a bunch of API calls to implement, but that should be fairly easy with the generic layout. Meanwhile, I've added couple of simple features, like convenient debugging, generic bcd functions, and a printcaps program that dumps in a human readable form the capabilities of a rig. There must other changes I forget to mention here, but they're listed in the CVS rep (BTW, maybe a cvs-commit-digest mailing list would help) Next on the TODO list: the backend registering stuff with dynamic loading.. Big time! -- Stephane Fillod F4CFE |
From: Frank S. <vk...@ix...> - 2000-09-30 01:18:21
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Stephane Fillod wrote: > > Frank Singleton wrote: > > > > And , libhamlib.so.1.0.1 is born !! I feel like a proud dad ;-() > > > Hold on, I just broke it again. Nah, just kidding ;-) > Good work on the Makefiles! Thanks .. > > > Made common/include and common/lib where lib headers and hamlib.so > > can be stored. > > > Hmm, IMO, this is not the best approach. > According to most GNU projects, the directory hierarchy should > look like something as following(not exhaustive): This was just to start compiling the frontend lib for verification of what we had done so far ... <snip> Lets do it .. > If you agree with this organisation, I'll do that tomorrow, > along with the autoconf setup. Yep, sounds good to me :-) > > We should definitely clean up the source tree, make a compilable/linkable/ > runnable release (hamlib-1.1.0), and then summon for help/advices/wishes > from other linux-hams. Yes, lets get directory organized. A hamlib release done, and then we have something to show and attract others :-) > Also it would be good to make it clear that hamlib is not CAT specific > (as one might understand from sourceforge summary or radio.linux.org.au), > nor linux specific (it should be developped to run on any UNIX flavors, > and also on Win32/etc.) Check the updated summary.. (limited to 255 characters) I think it would be good to get the reorg done, and then I will post to various groups about our project, its goals, status, and request for help. > > Have fun.. > > PS: have you checked out http://google.com page lately? I'm sure > you'll like it ;-) Yeah, talented little kangaroo :-) Cheers / Frank -- Frank Singleton VK3FCS Email: victor kilo three foxtrot charlie sierra at ix dot netcom dot com |
From: Frank S. <vk...@ix...> - 2000-09-29 03:49:38
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Hi, Some activity, when not watching Olympics... :) I have successfully built testrig.c and linked it against libhamlib frontend , and run part of it successfully - cool !!!!!!!!! rig.c ----- Removed rig_caps references for the time being, and replaced with a more generic declaration. At least now I can build "libhamlib.0.0.1" ok, and link testrig against it, and run it !! yippeee :-) #if 0 static const struct rig_caps *rig_base[] = { &ft747_caps, &ic706_caps, &ic706mkiig_caps, /* ... */ NULL, }; #endif /* * removed references to xxx_caps for testing. perhaps we should use * the declaration below, an dthnk about populating it another way -- FS * */ #define MAXRIGSIZE 10 /* put this in .h later */ static const struct rig_caps *rig_base[MAXRIGSIZE]; Also, Added a few printf's to verify rig_xxx is being called ok. Makefile.testrig ---------------- Created this make file to allow compiling and linking of testrig.c against "libhamlib" make -f Makefile.testrig make -f Makefile.testrig runtest make -f Makefile.testrig cleanlocal Some output as follows, we are getting closer !! [frank@kirk common]$ make -f Makefile.testrig runtest LD_LIBRARY_PATH="./lib" ./testrig ; ldd ./testrig testrig:main() has been called rig:rig_init called libm.so.6 => /lib/libm.so.6 (0x4001a000) libhamlib.so.0 => ./lib/libhamlib.so.0 (0x40037000) libc.so.6 => /lib/libc.so.6 (0x4003c000) /lib/ld-linux.so.2 => /lib/ld-linux.so.2 (0x40000000) [frank@kirk common]$ Outstanding ----------- 1. Get a good way of populating rig_base[] array. 2. Test drive a backend lib after frontend dlopens the approriate backend. 3. Symbol resolution - needs a generic approach here.. Cheers / Frank.. -- Frank Singleton VK3FCS Email: victor kilo three foxtrot charlie sierra at ix dot netcom dot com |
From: Stephane F. <f4...@fr...> - 2000-09-28 19:23:37
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Frank Singleton wrote: > > And , libhamlib.so.1.0.1 is born !! I feel like a proud dad ;-() > Hold on, I just broke it again. Nah, just kidding ;-) Good work on the Makefiles! > Made common/include and common/lib where lib headers and hamlib.so > can be stored. > Hmm, IMO, this is not the best approach. According to most GNU projects, the directory hierarchy should look like something as following(not exhaustive): hamlib |-- README |-- INSTALL |-- Makefile.in |-- configure |-- LICENSE |-- any other all-uppercase file |-- include # exported includes | |-- rig.h # API interface | `-- riglist.h |-- lib # compiled libs | |-- backend | | |-- libft747.so | | `-- libicom.so | |-- libhamlib.so -> libhamlib.so.1 | |-- libhamlib.so.1 -> libhamlib.so.1.0.1 | `-- libhamlib.so.1.0.1 |-- etc | `-- hamlib.conf # pref file locating backend.so list |-- src # used to be common/ | |-- rig.c | |-- register.c # backend registering | |-- misc.c # hex_dump, BCD stuff, etc. | |-- serial.c | |-- serial.h | `-- any other frontend sources |-- test | |-- testrig.c # sample test program | `-- any regression test suite? |-- docs | |-- html | |-- man | `-- well documented API in various formats |-- mybackendrig | |-- mybackendrig.h | `-- mybackendrig.c `-- myotherbackendrig `-- myotherbackendrig.c What do you think of it? If you agree with this organisation, I'll do that tomorrow (well today), along with the autoconf setup. We should definitely clean up the source tree, make a compilable/linkable/ runnable release (hamlib-1.1.0), and then summon for help/advices/wishes from other linux-hams. Also it would be good to make it clear that hamlib is not CAT specific (as one might understand from sourceforge summary or radio.linux.org.au), nor linux specific (it should be developped to run on any UNIX flavors, and also on Win32/etc.) Have fun.. PS: have you checked out http://google.com page lately? I'm sure you'll like it ;-) -- Stephane Fillod F4CFE |
From: Stephane F. <ste...@in...> - 2000-09-28 00:34:22
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Frank Singleton wrote: > > And , libhamlib.so.1.0.1 is born !! I feel like a proud dad ;-() > Hold on, I just broke it again. Nah, just kidding ;-) Good work on the Makefiles! > Made common/include and common/lib where lib headers and hamlib.so > can be stored. > Hmm, IMO, this is not the best approach. According to most GNU projects, the directory hierarchy should look like something as following(not exhaustive): hamlib |-- README |-- INSTALL |-- Makefile.in |-- configure |-- LICENSE |-- any other all-uppercase file |-- include # exported includes | |-- rig.h # API interface | `-- riglist.h |-- lib # compiled libs | |-- backend | | |-- libft747.so | | `-- libicom.so | |-- libhamlib.so -> libhamlib.so.1 | |-- libhamlib.so.1 -> libhamlib.so.1.0.1 | `-- libhamlib.so.1.0.1 |-- etc | `-- hamlib.conf # pref file locating backend.so list |-- src # used to be common/ | |-- rig.c | |-- register.c # backend registering | |-- misc.c # hex_dump, BCD stuff, etc. | |-- serial.c | |-- serial.h | `-- any other frontend sources |-- test | |-- testrig.c # sample test program | `-- any regression test suite? |-- docs | |-- html | |-- man | `-- well documented API in various formats |-- mybackendrig | |-- mybackendrig.h | `-- mybackendrig.c `-- myotherbackendrig `-- myotherbackendrig.c What do you think of it? If you agree with this organisation, I'll do that tomorrow, along with the autoconf setup. We should definitely clean up the source tree, make a compilable/linkable/ runnable release (hamlib-1.1.0), and then summon for help/advices/wishes from other linux-hams. Also it would be good to make it clear that hamlib is not CAT specific (as one might understand from sourceforge summary or radio.linux.org.au), nor linux specific (it should be developped to run on any UNIX flavors, and also on Win32/etc.) Have fun.. PS: have you checked out http://google.com page lately? I'm sure you'll like it ;-) -- Stephane Fillod F4CFE |
From: Frank S. <vk...@ix...> - 2000-09-25 00:33:26
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Hi, In between the Olympic events I had some thoughts on loading strategies, and share them below. After browsing man page for dl_open etc... :-) Reference Example. <snip> Load the math library, and print the cosine of 2.0: #include <dlfcn.h> int main(int argc, char **argv) { void *handle = dlopen ("/lib/libm.so", RTLD_LAZY); double (*cosine)(double) = dlsym(handle, "cos"); printf ("%f\n", (*cosine)(2.0)); dlclose(handle); } <snip> 1. frontend should load appropriate backend lib at say, rig_init or similar. 2. multiple instances of same RIG type should not cause multiple dl_open requests ?? 3. Must have way of resolving symbol names for dlsym(handle, "symbol_name"); stuff. eg: for things like .. void *handle = dlopen ("libft747.so", RTLD_LAZY); int (*cmd_set_vfo)(vfo_t vfo)= dlsym(handle, "rig_set_vfo"); (*cmd_set_vfo)(RIg_MAIN_VFO) etc.. 4. A whole lot more to come, but you see the idea. 5. GNU libtool ?? 6. Lots of other stuff to follow... /Frank -- Frank Singleton VK3FCS Email: victor kilo three foxtrot charlie sierra at ix dot netcom dot com |
From: Frank S. <vk...@ix...> - 2000-09-25 00:12:52
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Hi, Made some updates to common/Makefile so "make", "make install" and "make clean" work as expected. Still some things to sort out but at least it gives us some framework.. And , libhamlib.so.1.0.1 is born !! I feel like a proud dad ;-() Made common/include and common/lib where lib headers and hamlib.so can be stored. Here is the common/ tree after doing "make" and "make install" from common/ directory. This is the same structure as backend libs for consistency. [frank@kirk common]$ tree . |-- API_Candidates |-- CVS | |-- Entries | |-- Repository | `-- Root |-- Makefile |-- include | |-- CVS | | |-- Entries | | |-- Repository | | `-- Root | |-- rig.h | |-- riglist.h | `-- serial.h |-- lib | |-- CVS | | |-- Entries | | |-- Repository | | `-- Root | |-- libhamlib.so -> libhamlib.so.1 | |-- libhamlib.so.1 -> libhamlib.so.1.0.1 | `-- libhamlib.so.1.0.1 |-- rig.c |-- rig.h |-- rig.o |-- riglist.h |-- serial.c |-- serial.h |-- serial.o `-- testrig.c Cheers / Frank.. -- Frank Singleton VK3FCS Email: victor kilo three foxtrot charlie sierra at ix dot netcom dot com |
From: Frank S. <vk...@ix...> - 2000-09-23 05:37:05
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Stephane Fillod wrote: > ... > Just a word about the {cmd,backend}_get_* functions. IMO, it's not a good > idea to have them return the data immediately, because we may loose > the return code in case of failure. So I would stick with something like > this: > int cmd_get_freq(RIG *rig, freq_t *freq); > I like this format, set passes freq, get passes *freq etc.. and returning "int" covers return code.. > Your struct channel looks fine, we need also to support splits: > So instead of having only one "freq_t freq" field, > maybe we ought to have > > freq_t rxfreq; > freq_t txfreq; > > and also: > > unsigned long func; /* bitwise OR'ed RIG_FUNC_AGC, NB, et al. */ > unsigned long tuning_step; /* freq_t is not needed here */ > rig_rptr_shift_t rptr_shift; /* repeater shift is not (cross)split */ > > Not to mention the Preamp/Att state (expressed in dB?), and the selected > antenna too (provided the rig supports it of course). > > Correct me if I'm wrong, the purpose of the "struct channel" is designed > to manage freq memories, right? Yep.. >Oh, yeah, it can be convenient > to use it to get the state of the current vfo, all at once! is what > you intended with get_channel/set_channel or is it for memory managment > exclusively? maybe both if the memory number is not defined (eg. -1)? > Hopefully we can use it for both .. > Comments? frontend starting to look good. Perhaps a "general.c" file for stuff like hex_dump(), bcd conversions, dBm <-> milliwatts, whatever etc so I can rip them out of serial.[ch] Comments ?? /Frank -- Frank Singleton VK3FCS Email: victor kilo three foxtrot charlie sierra at ix dot netcom dot com |
From: Frank S. <vk...@ix...> - 2000-09-23 05:21:46
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Hi, ft747.[ch] / ft847.[ch] ------------------------ Updated caps structures testrig.c --------- Examples of set/get with simple error checking common/Makefile ---------------- simple hack to allow "make hamlib" as a target. Still lots to do, includign autoconf one day :0 What do you think about making a lib and include directory under common where the frontend lib can be "make install'd", similar to backend directory structure. also, a common/test diretory also. eg: common/lib common/include common/test Also testrig can use these directories to find libhamlib frontend and include file to match and link against when testing. serial.c -------- updated read_sleep to use usleep Cheers / Frank -- Frank Singleton VK3FCS Email: victor kilo three foxtrot charlie sierra at ix dot netcom dot com |
From: Stephane F. <f4...@fr...> - 2000-09-19 06:19:19
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Frank Singleton wrote: > > So if frontend API says > > int (*set_freq)(RIG *rig, freq_t freq); > int (*set_mode)(RIG *rig, rig_mode_t mode); > int (*set_vfo)(RIG *rig, rig_vfo_t vfo); > > backend equivalents for ft747 > > int ft747_set_freq(RIG *rig, freq_t freq); > int ft747_set_mode(RIG *rig, rig_mode_t mode); int ft747_set_vfo(RIG *rig, rig_vfo_t vfo); [...] > etc.. > > What do you think ?? make sense! freq_t cmd_get_freq(RIG *rig); Just a word about the {cmd,backend}_get_* functions. IMO, it's not a good idea to have them return the data immediately, because we may loose the return code in case of failure. So I would stick with something like this: int cmd_get_freq(RIG *rig, freq_t *freq); Your struct channel looks fine, we need also to support splits: So instead of having only one "freq_t freq" field, maybe we ought to have freq_t rxfreq; freq_t txfreq; and also: unsigned long func; /* bitwise OR'ed RIG_FUNC_AGC, NB, et al. */ unsigned long tuning_step; /* freq_t is not needed here */ rig_rptr_shift_t rptr_shift; /* repeater shift is not (cross)split */ Not to mention the Preamp/Att state (expressed in dB?), and the selected antenna too (provided the rig supports it of course). Correct me if I'm wrong, the purpose of the "struct channel" is designed to manage freq memories, right? Oh, yeah, it can be convenient to use it to get the state of the current vfo, all at once! is what you intended with get_channel/set_channel or is it for memory managment exclusively? maybe both if the memory number is not defined (eg. -1)? Comments? -- Stephane F4CFE |
From: Stephane F. <f4...@fr...> - 2000-09-19 06:19:16
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Frank Singleton wrote: > > In order for rig.c to populate the rig_caps array automagically,as > suggested > [..] > We could have backend call a frontend rig_caps_register function that > simple passes an address of their own cap structure into > the rig_caps array in rig.c > > ie: > > int rig_caps_register(RIG *rig) { > you mean int rig_caps_register(const struct rig_caps *my_backend_caps) > .... insert cap ptr into rig_base[] > .... and return result to caller > > } > > This way, frontend can init all backends via a rig_backend_poll() > function. backends must respond by registering their caps, > rig_caps_register() and > any other things we may add in future :-) > So if I understand correctly, the rig_backend_poll() function (called by who?) would call some backend initializer function (constructor?) that would in term call rig_caps_register(). Well, this is not too far fetched, especially if you consider the dlopen/_init facility (in case of external loadable modules). > This way > > rig_caps *rig_base[MAX_RIG_CAPS] will be > dynamically populated. > > eg: > > frontend backend > -------- ------- > > for all rigs do gotcha! there you still have to have a backend array with pointer to functions, or at least explicitly reference all the backend constructors. > > rig_backend_poll > ---------------------> > > rig_caps_regisyter > <--------------------- ft747_caps > > rig_backend_poll > ---------------------> > [...] > rig_base[] is now populated ... > > > The rig_backend_poll could be done at > loading of the frontend libhamlib library that > can access all the backends. > This idea needs some maturation, let's think about it, see how we can work it out. > Also, should we have 1 lib "libhamlib" > that contains the frontend and all the backends (easy), or > should we load frontend "libhamlib" and he can > dynamically load backend libraries on demand. > This second option is probably more > professional ;-) and also more fun :-) As usual, I think both are good, like in SANE (no pun here :) -- Stephane Fillod F4CFE |
From: Frank S. <vk...@ix...> - 2000-09-18 23:21:39
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Stephane Fillod wrote: <snip> > REM: the problem with xxxx_t cmd_get_xxx(RIG *rig) would be the > unability to check the return code. I have seen in some circumstances the use of stuff like struct ret_val { return_value; int validity_indicator; } struct ret_val *get_whatever(..) So when you get a ptr to ret_val when returning from the function, you can always check the "data valid indicator" to see if there is a proper return_value, or if the indicator says, an error occurred. Could we use this for setting and getting data ?? Or, pass &result into functions so that it may be set like int rig_get_mode(RIG *rig, mode_t mode, int *result) ie: rig_get_mode updates mode and result. Comments ?? > > BTW, is the "_" in "cmd_set_xxx_" a typo ? TYPO !! :-() > > Also, I'm thinking that the "cmd_" prefix can generate some namespace > clashes (well, no if the other objects is not dealing with vfo's > and ham specific stuff :). Anyway, would it be better to have this: > > rig_set_mode(RIG *rig, rig_mode_t mode) > rig_set_vfo(RIG *rig, vfo_t vfo) > rig_set_freq(RIG *rig, freq_t freq) > rig_set_filter(RIG *rig, filter_t filter) > Thats fine, I am glad we can agree before the API gets too big :-) > Talking about namespace, I'd prefer to have mode_t instead of rig_mode_t. > Should you see any concern? mode_t looks good to me > > About convenience functions like: > > > > cmd_set_channel_(RIG *rig,freq_t freq, rig_mode_t mode, vfo_t vfo > > ....,,,, filter_t filter..) > > > > is some frontend convenience function that backend libs can handle > > either directly as is toward the rig if the rig can handle it that way, > > or the backend lib breaks it into the simpler functions shown above if > > the rig needs it that way. We dont care up the front how its done > > int the back of course (apart from efficiency issues of course)! > > > > In your previous mail, you were proposing that we can pass NULL > parameters into the cmd_set for those things you > dont want to change since previos command. Well, it depends > on what your understanding of NULL. For instance, 0 can be meaningfull > for the vfo_t type, etc. (anyway, we can use -1) I guess we should have a value that has no meaning in any other context than indicating PARAM_NULL (-1 is a candidate of course). But, using rig_set_mode(rig,mode) is maybe cleaner than rig_set_channel(rig,NULL_PARAM, mode, NULL_PARAM, NULL_PARAM ..) > > Ok, now I sleep better !! > > > > Sometimes, coding is like certain ham bands, > it's only open at night :-) > Yeah, I sometimes have bit too much D-layer absorbption in the neural net sometimes.. :) > -- > Stephane F4CFE > Also, many times I get the following errors from your mail ********************************************** ** THIS IS A WARNING MESSAGE ONLY ** ** YOU DO NOT NEED TO RESEND YOUR MESSAGE ** ********************************************** The original message was received at Mon, 18 Sep 2000 11:18:14 +0200 from cismrelais.univ-lyon1.fr [134.214.101.250] ----- The following addresses had transient non-fatal errors ----- ste...@en... (expanded from: <ste...@in...>) OR ********************************************** ** THIS IS A WARNING MESSAGE ONLY ** ** YOU DO NOT NEED TO RESEND YOUR MESSAGE ** ********************************************** The original message was received at Mon, 18 Sep 2000 07:59:37 +0200 from cismrelais.univ-lyon1.fr [134.214.101.250] ----- The following addresses had transient non-fatal errors ----- ste...@en... (expanded from: <ste...@in...>) ----- Transcript of session follows ----- ... while talking to hotu.ens.insa-rennes.fr.: >>> MAIL From:<vk...@ix...> SIZE=1811 <<< 451 <vk...@ix...>... Go away! ste...@en...... Deferred: 451 <vk...@ix...>... Go away! Warning: message still undelivered after 4 hours Will keep trying until message is 5 days old So, you may have to check hamlib-developer instead ?? /Frank.. -- Frank Singleton VK3FCS Email: victor kilo three foxtrot charlie sierra at ix dot netcom dot com |
From: Stephane F. <f4...@fr...> - 2000-09-18 06:17:24
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Frank Singleton wrote: > > Actually now that I think about it, the cleanest approach > is probably for the frontend API to provide as a minimum functions > like > > cmd_set_mode(RIG *rig, rig_mode_t mode) > cmd_set_vfo(RIG *rig, vfo_t vfo) > cmd_set_freq_(RIG *rig, freq_t freq) > cmd_set_filter_(RIG *rig, filter_t filter) > > and in general > cmd_set_xxx_(RIG *rig, xxx_t xxx) and cmd_get_xxx(RIG *rig, xxx_t *xxx) REM: the problem with xxxx_t cmd_get_xxx(RIG *rig) would be the unability to check the return code. BTW, is the "_" in "cmd_set_xxx_" a typo ? Also, I'm thinking that the "cmd_" prefix can generate some namespace clashes (well, no if the other objects is not dealing with vfo's and ham specific stuff :). Anyway, would it be better to have this: rig_set_mode(RIG *rig, rig_mode_t mode) rig_set_vfo(RIG *rig, vfo_t vfo) rig_set_freq(RIG *rig, freq_t freq) rig_set_filter(RIG *rig, filter_t filter) Talking about namespace, I'd prefer to have mode_t instead of rig_mode_t. Should you see any concern? About convenience functions like: > > cmd_set_channel_(RIG *rig,freq_t freq, rig_mode_t mode, vfo_t vfo > ....,,,, filter_t filter..) > > is some frontend convenience function that backend libs can handle > either directly as is toward the rig if the rig can handle it that way, > or the backend lib breaks it into the simpler functions shown above if > the rig needs it that way. We dont care up the front how its done > int the back of course (apart from efficiency issues of course)! > In your previous mail, you were proposing that we can pass NULL parameters into the cmd_set for those things you dont want to change since previos command. Well, it depends on what your understanding of NULL. For instance, 0 can be meaningfull for the vfo_t type, etc. (anyway, we can use -1) > > Ok, now I sleep better !! > Sometimes, coding is like certain ham bands, it's only open at night :-) -- Stephane F4CFE |
From: Frank S. <vk...@ix...> - 2000-09-18 03:56:49
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Hi, Started to think about API set/get functions. rig.h ----- Added channel struct for mem handling and possible convenience functions. struct channel { int channel_num; freq_t freq; mode_t mode; vfo_t vfo; char channel_desc[MAXCHANDESC]; }; Added set/get pairs for API in rig_caps struct <snip> /* * General API commands, from most primitive to least.. :() * List Set/Get functions pairs */ int (*set_freq)(RIG *rig, freq_t freq); /* select freq */ struct freq_t (*get_freq)(RIG *rig); /* get freq */ int (*set_mode)(RIG *rig, rig_mode_t mode); /* select mode */ struct rig_mode_t (*get_mode)(RIG *rig, rig_mode_t mode); /* get mode */ int (*set_vfo)(RIG *rig, rig_vfo_t vfo); /* select vfo */ struct rig_vfo_t (*get_vfo)(RIG *rig); /* get vfo */ int (*set_ptt)(RIG *rig, rig_ptt_t ptt); /* ptt on/off */ struct rig_ptt_t (*get_ptt)(RIG *rig); /* get ptt status */ int (*set_rpt_shift)(RIG *rig, rig_rptr_shift_t rig_rptr_shift ); /* set repeater shift */ struct rig_rptr_shift_t (*get_rpt_shift)(RIG *rig); /* get repeater shift */ /* etc */ /* * Convenience Functions * */ int (*set_channel)(RIG *rig, struct channel ch); int (*get_channel)(RIG *rig, freq_t freq, rig_mode_t mode, rig_vfo_t vfo); <snip> rig.c ------ Added 3 commands to rig.c for examples cmd_set_freq cmd_set_mode cmd_set_vfo Compiles ok (no linking) with gcc -c rig.c -I. testrig.c ---------- Updated testrig.c with 3 examples also Compiles ok (no linking) with gcc -c testrig.c -I. Cheers / Frank.. -- Frank Singleton VK3FCS Email: victor kilo three foxtrot charlie sierra at ix dot netcom dot com |
From: Frank S. <vk...@ix...> - 2000-09-17 19:05:28
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Hi, In order for rig.c to populate the rig_caps array automagically,as suggested <snip> /* * It would be nice to have an automatic way of referencing all the backends * supported by hamlib. Maybe this array should be placed in a separate file.. * * The rig_base is a variable length rig_caps* array, NULL terminated */ static const struct rig_caps *rig_base[] = { &ft747_caps, &ic706_caps, &ic706mkiig_caps, /* ... */ NULL, }; We could have backend call a frontend rig_caps_register function that simple passes an address of their own cap structure into the rig_caps array in rig.c ie: int rig_caps_register(RIG *rig) { .... insert cap ptr into rig_base[] .... and return result to caller } This way, frontend can init all backends via a rig_backend_poll() function. backends must respond by registering their caps, rig_caps_register() and any other things we may add in future :-) This way rig_caps *rig_base[MAX_RIG_CAPS] will be dynamically populated. eg: frontend backend -------- ------- for all rigs do rig_backend_poll ---------------------> rig_caps_regisyter <--------------------- ft747_caps rig_backend_poll ---------------------> rig_caps_regisyter <--------------------- ft847_caps ... rig_backend_poll ---------------------> rig_caps_regisyter <--------------------- icom_caps rig_base[] is now populated ... The rig_backend_poll could be done at loading of the frontend libhamlib library that can access all the backends. Question: Also, should we have 1 lib "libhamlib" that contains the frontend and all the backends (easy), or should we load frontend "libhamlib" and he can dynamically load backend libraries on demand. This second option is probably more professional ;-) Comments ?? -- Frank Singleton VK3FCS Email: victor kilo three foxtrot charlie sierra at ix dot netcom dot com |
From: Frank S. <vk...@ix...> - 2000-09-16 22:15:24
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Hi, Thinking about naming convention for maintenance :0 when we have all these functions in the backend mapping (via pointers )onto the frontend declarations.. frontend prototype says... <snip> from rig.h struct rig_caps { rig_model_t rig_model; /* eg. RIG_MODEL_FT847 */ unsigned char model_name[RIGNAMSIZ]; /* eg "ft847" */ unsigned char mfg_name[RIGNAMSIZ]; /* eg "Yeasu" */ char version[RIGVERSIZ]; /* driver version, eg "0.5" */ enum rig_status_e status; /* among ALPHA, BETA, STABLE, NEW */ enum rig_type_e rig_type; int serial_rate_min; /* eg 4800 */ int serial_rate_max; /* eg 9600 */ int serial_data_bits; /* eg 8 */ int serial_stop_bits; /* eg 2 */ enum serial_parity_e serial_parity; /* */ enum serial_handshake_e serial_handshake; /* */ int write_delay; /* delay in ms between each byte sent out */ int timeout; /* in ms */ int retry; /* maximum number of retries, 0 to disable */ struct freq_range_list rx_range_list[FRQRANGESIZ]; struct freq_range_list tx_range_list[FRQRANGESIZ]; int (*rig_init)(RIG *rig); /* setup *priv */ int (*rig_cleanup)(RIG *rig); int (*rig_open)(RIG *rig); /* called when port just opened */ int (*rig_close)(RIG *rig); /* called before port is to close */ int (*rig_probe)(RIG *rig); /* Experimental: may work.. */ /* cmd API below */ int (*set_freq_main_vfo_hz)(RIG *rig, freq_t freq, rig_mode_t mode); /* int (*set_freq)(RIG *rig, freq_t freq); int (*set_mode)(RIG *rig, rig_mode_t mode); int (*set_vfo)(RIG *rig, rig_vfo_t vfo); */ <snip> So if frontend API says int (*set_freq)(RIG *rig, freq_t freq); int (*set_mode)(RIG *rig, rig_mode_t mode); int (*set_vfo)(RIG *rig, rig_vfo_t vfo); backend equivalents for ft747 int ft747_set_freq(RIG *rig, freq_t freq); int ft747_set_mode(RIG *rig, rig_mode_t mode); int ft747_(RIG *rig, rig_vfo_t vfo); backend equivalents for ft847 int ft847_set_freq(RIG *rig, freq_t freq); int ft847_set_mode(RIG *rig, rig_mode_t mode); int ft847_(RIG *rig, rig_vfo_t vfo); etc.. What do you think ?? -- Frank |
From: Frank S. <vk...@ix...> - 2000-09-16 06:34:17
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Hi, previously, on this channel..... > > > > cmd_set_freq(RIG *rig,freq_t freq, rig_mode_t mode, vfo_t vfo ) > > > long int cmd_get_freq_mode_status(RIG *rig, unsigned char *mode, vfo_t > > > vfo); > > > > > Looks definitely better this way! > > Just a question: what if the application just wants to change > > the mode only? It might be troublesome in certain case to have > > to remember the current frequency or having to query it. > > true, I guess we have some options... > > API provides > cmd_set_freq_(RIG *rig,freq_t freq, rig_mode_t mode, vfo_t vfo ) > > and possibly > cmd_set_mode(RIG *rig, rig_mode_t mode) > cmd_set_vfo(RIG *rig, vfo_t vfo) I must have had too many beers during the Olympic opening ceremony :-) Actually now that I think about it, the cleanest approach is probably for the frontend API to provide as a minimum functions like cmd_set_mode(RIG *rig, rig_mode_t mode) cmd_set_vfo(RIG *rig, vfo_t vfo) cmd_set_freq_(RIG *rig, freq_t freq) cmd_set_filter_(RIG *rig, filter_t filter) and in general cmd_set_xxx_(RIG *rig, xxx_t xxx) and that optional convenience functions like cmd_set_channel_(RIG *rig,freq_t freq, rig_mode_t mode, vfo_t vfo ....,,,, filter_t filter..) is some frontend convenience function that backend libs can handle either directly as is toward the rig if the rig can handle it that way, or the backend lib breaks it into the simpler functions shown above if the rig needs it that way. We dont care up the front how its done int the back of course (apart from efficiency issues of course)! So, 1 frontend convenience functions may cause multiple backend calls to the rig as it iterates through the convenience functions argumant list and calls individual "primitives" towards the rig. Ok, now I sleep better !! Should be no state issues to deal with.. just trying to avoid long function names like cmd_set_freq_mode_vfo_filter_power_this_that_whatever(....) Comments ?? /Frank.. |
From: Frank S. <vk...@ix...> - 2000-09-16 05:23:01
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Stephane Fillod wrote: > > ..provided we have the specs. May be we can sumon some help > by sending an announce on lin...@vg... > and lin...@de... mailing lists. > Yep, let me fix ft747 and ft847 asap, and we can announce for help and show some partly working stuff ;-) > > cmd_set_freq(RIG *rig,freq_t freq, rig_mode_t mode, vfo_t vfo ) > > long int cmd_get_freq_mode_status(RIG *rig, unsigned char *mode, vfo_t > > vfo); > > > Looks definitely better this way! > Just a question: what if the application just wants to change > the mode only? It might be troublesome in certain case to have > to remember the current frequency or having to query it. true, I guess we have some options... API provides cmd_set_freq_(RIG *rig,freq_t freq, rig_mode_t mode, vfo_t vfo ) and possibly cmd_set_mode(RIG *rig, rig_mode_t mode) cmd_set_vfo(RIG *rig, vfo_t vfo) and allow backend to if an app calls the generic function cmd_set_freq_mode_vfo(RIG *rig,freq_t freq, rig_mode_t mode, vfo_t vfo ) then if rig later sends cmd_set_mode(RIG *rig, rig_mode_t mode), we could.. 2. preserve last command params sent in the backend libs. this way a cmd_set_mode(rig_mode_t mode) can call a cmd_set_freq( ..freq,mode) if that rigs opcode command require all aparameters. Otherwise the backend just sends the cmd_set_mode() change.A small overhead, but covers both cases. (less yuck !) ps: my 2 yaesu can handle a mode change independant of other stuff 3. Pass NULL parameters into the cmd_set for those things you dont want to change since previos command ?? comments ????? > serial.c > -------- > serial_open() open and setup a serial port, fully RIG* aware, > cloned from open_port2() great ! > write_block2() handles optional write_delay > read_block() does passive blocking(select), and have timeout handling > open_port2() has been busted (outdated refs to rig_caps), use serial_open()? > yep, we can kill this. > Question: What do you think of write_block2() ? Would you agree > to replace write_block() by write_block2() ? > yep, that way it covers all rig types, I had to start somewhere :-) > Next stage: the linking ;-) ahh lovely stuff ! > > I'm sorry Frank, with the new API and frontend/backend, you'll have > to modify your ft847 code. will update this weekend, its Olympics in vk3 land (actually vk2) but I live and watch from texas USA. BTW, do all the Yeasu rigs have the same > "CAT" protocol as Icoms do with "CI-V" ? In this case, may be it will > be easier for you to factorize some code. so far the 2 yaesus have same 5 block cmd, but no commonality between opcodes and freq packing into BCD etc.. / Frank.. > > -- > Stephane Fillod F4CFE > _______________________________________________ > Hamlib-developer mailing list > Ham...@li... > http://lists.sourceforge.net/mailman/listinfo/hamlib-developer -- Frank Singleton VK3FCS Email: victor kilo three foxtrot charlie sierra at ix dot netcom dot com |
From: Stephane F. <f4...@fr...> - 2000-09-16 00:59:29
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On Fri, Sep 15, 2000, Frank Singleton wrote: > > Well nothing compiles now (sob), so lets get the > general API and interwork API firmed up... > Sorry about that, I forgot to let you know in my previous mail... Acutally, I was so eager to show off the new frontend/backend approach! Usually, we don't write the software specifications after the development :-) The same goes for an API implementation. So it doesn't matter much if the code is broken if the API is not yet specified! We're still in ALPHA stage, after all. Clean compiles is yet BETA (and considered stable for MS :). > I am keen to get a good general (extensible) infrastructure in place. > good! let's do it! > eg: If previous co compiles, and your or my next ci is known > to break this, we should think about tagging it in CVS. > Agree with you! To me, the hamlib-1.0.3 is the latest clean compile. Also about version numbers, would it be better to have odd numbers for development phases, and even number for stable code, ala Linux kernel? With 1.0.3, people might think that the library is already ready to use (which is not!) > > backend must implement all opcodes (of course) ..provided we have the specs. May be we can sumon some help by sending an announce on lin...@vg... and lin...@de... mailing lists. > This creates a large function namespace, this is ok as there > shall be wrappers for them up front anyway. Also, bakend must test > all opcodes anyway. > > However, frontend should have reduced namespace for function calls. > > eg result, 2 functions up front .... > > cmd_set_freq(RIG *rig,freq_t freq, rig_mode_t mode, vfo_t vfo ) > long int cmd_get_freq_mode_status(RIG *rig, unsigned char *mode, vfo_t > vfo); > Looks definitely better this way! Just a question: what if the application just wants to change the mode only? It might be troublesome in certain case to have to remember the current frequency or having to query it. > > so, lets create some enums > allright! more to come I'm sure. new stuff I've checked in: serial.c -------- serial_open() open and setup a serial port, fully RIG* aware, cloned from open_port2() write_block2() handles optional write_delay read_block() does passive blocking(select), and have timeout handling open_port2() has been busted (outdated refs to rig_caps), use serial_open()? Question: What do you think of write_block2() ? Would you agree to replace write_block() by write_block2() ? frontend: -------- rigcaps.h has been cut and pasted into rig.h in order to fix the cyclic forward references. Updated some data struct, added flow_control/retry/timeout See the testrig.c example to see how to use the frontend lib. Note: the Makefiles are still broken.. testrig.c --------- modified to use rig_init/rig_open. Should work with an operating backend.. Conclusion: ---------- The good news is hamlib now compiles OK back again. Next stage: the linking ;-) I'm sorry Frank, with the new API and frontend/backend, you'll have to modify your ft847 code. BTW, do all the Yeasu rigs have the same "CAT" protocol as Icoms do with "CI-V" ? In this case, may be it will be easier for you to factorize some code. -- Stephane Fillod F4CFE |
From: Frank S. <vk...@ix...> - 2000-09-15 05:17:15
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Hi, Well nothing compiles now (sob), so lets get the general API and interwork API firmed up... I am keen to get a good general (extensible) infrastructure in place. Also, just a note,, CVS checkins that impact clean compiles (and there will be many , I am sure) during later project stages we should flag. eg: If previous co compiles, and your or my next ci is known to break this, we should think about tagging it in CVS. Comments ?? Anyway Some API thoughts .... <snip> /* * * API Notes -- FS * */ I think it is more intuitive to code things as follows... backend must implement all opcodes (of course) this may infer function names like thus (at least according to yaesu docs not passing vfo as a parameter - aaarrrgh). eg 6 functions in backend .. int cmd_set_freq_main_vfo_hz(RIG *rig,freq_t freq, rig_mode_t mode); int cmd_set_freq_sat_rx_vfo_hz(RIG *rig,freq_t freq, rig_mode_t mode); int cmd_set_freq_sat_tx_vfo_hz(RIG *rig,freq_t freq, rig_mode_t mode); long int cmd_get_freq_mode_status_main_vfo(RIG *rig, unsigned char *mode); long int cmd_get_freq_mode_status_sat_rx_vfo(RIG *rig, unsigned char *mode); long int cmd_get_freq_mode_status_sat_tx_vfo(RIG *rig, unsigned char *mode); This creates a large function namespace, this is ok as there shall be wrappers for them up front anyway. Also, bakend must test all opcodes anyway. However, frontend should have reduced namespace for function calls. eg result, 2 functions up front .... cmd_set_freq(RIG *rig,freq_t freq, rig_mode_t mode, vfo_t vfo ) long int cmd_get_freq_mode_status(RIG *rig, unsigned char *mode, vfo_t vfo); ie: 3 to 1 reduction, and an emphasis on what parameters you are setting on the rig, driven more by the parameter list, than extending function names. so, lets create some enums enum rig_vfo_e { RIG_VFO_MAIN = 0, RIG_VFO_RX, RIG_VFO_TX, RIG_VFO_SUB, /* etc */ } typedef enum rig_vfo_e rig_vfo_t; enum rig_rptr_shift_e { RIG_RPT_SHIFT_NONE = 0, RIG_RPT_SHIFT_MINUS, RIG_RPT_SHIFT_PLUS, /* etc */ } <snip> /Frank.. (yawn...) -- Frank Singleton VK3FCS Email: victor kilo three foxtrot charlie sierra at ix dot netcom dot com |
From: Frank S. <vk...@ix...> - 2000-09-15 04:08:20
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Jim Jerzycke wrote: > > Hi, Frank. > Well.....I went and did it. I bought several books on programming on > Tcl/Tk, and I'm amazed how easy it is. I've already started on a > "Virtual Front Panel" for the FT-847, and I've got some functionality as > far as turning knobs, recording the counts, and also button pushes. As > soon as I get something presentable, I'll send you a sample! > 73, Jim Hi Jim, Ok, glad to see soemone starting at the other end (GUI). We are in a shakeup of the code at the moment, outlining some generic frontend API for applications to use, so latest CVS tree does not compile too well ;-( However please feel free to play with the 1.0.3 release to brush up on your coding skills. Eventually we will have wrapper functions for the frontend that will support Java, Python, Tcl/Tk etc... Eventually you will tie a widget or component event (eg button pressed) to a function in our API, but try the libft847 as I know you have a ft847. try cmd_set_cat_on() and cmd_set_cat_off() for fun. Let us know how you go :-) Cheers / Frank.. -- Frank Singleton VK3FCS Email: victor kilo three foxtrot charlie sierra at ix dot netcom dot com |