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Anonymous - 2012-01-17

Originally posted by: Klaus.We...@gmail.com

I'm assuming you're not just talking about the next character, you're getting Ctrl applied to all following characters?

Does the indicator light on the Ctrl key remain on? Can you fix it by pressing Ctrl again?

*Originally posted by:* [Klaus.We...@gmail.com](http://code.google.com/u/115621749438987443961/) I'm assuming you're not just talking about the next character, you're getting Ctrl applied to all following characters? Does the indicator light on the Ctrl key remain on? Can you fix it by pressing Ctrl again?

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Anonymous - 2012-01-17

Originally posted by: brozi...@gmail.com

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6QS6dJtpveU&feature=youtu.be

The indicator light is off and no, I cant.

*Originally posted by:* [brozi...@gmail.com](http://code.google.com/u/113225053370358271981/) [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6QS6dJtpveU&feature=youtu.be](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6QS6dJtpveU&feature=youtu.be) The indicator light is off and no, I cant.

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Anonymous - 2012-01-17

Originally posted by: Klaus.We...@gmail.com

I suspect this is likely to be an application bug, where the input recipient loses track of the key press/release events. I can't reproduce this with the Market version of ConnectBot where the Ctrl key works as expected, or with a key tester program. If the indicator light is off, this should mean that the keyboard is sending key events without Ctrl modifier.

Try multitouch Ctrl - press and hold the Ctrl key, press and release the key to be modified, and release Ctrl. Does that behave differently?

Another thing to try would be to get the application into the confused state, force terminate Hacker's Keyboard from the application list (via system settings), and seeing if the problem persists for this terminal session once the input method is restarted.

Also, can you try turning off the "ConnectBot tab hack" in settings to see if this makes a difference?

Lastly, do you by any chance happen to have a Bluetooth keyboard, or a USB keyboard if you have a USB host adapter plug for your device? It would be interesting if the same behavior also happens with a hardware keyboard.

Status: Accepted

*Originally posted by:* [Klaus.We...@gmail.com](http://code.google.com/u/115621749438987443961/) I suspect this is likely to be an application bug, where the input recipient loses track of the key press/release events. I can't reproduce this with the Market version of ConnectBot where the Ctrl key works as expected, or with a key tester program. If the indicator light is off, this should mean that the keyboard is sending key events without Ctrl modifier. Try multitouch Ctrl - press and hold the Ctrl key, press and release the key to be modified, and release Ctrl. Does that behave differently? Another thing to try would be to get the application into the confused state, force terminate Hacker's Keyboard from the application list \(via system settings\), and seeing if the problem persists for this terminal session once the input method is restarted. Also, can you try turning off the "ConnectBot tab hack" in settings to see if this makes a difference? Lastly, do you by any chance happen to have a Bluetooth keyboard, or a USB keyboard if you have a USB host adapter plug for your device? It would be interesting if the same behavior also happens with a hardware keyboard. **Status:** Accepted

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Anonymous - 2012-01-18

Originally posted by: brozi...@gmail.com

"Try multitouch Ctrl- ..."
Yes, it does good with multitouch (ctrl+any key).

"Another thing to try ..."
No, the problem is still same.

"Also, can you try ..."
No, it doesn't helped.

I tried switch the input's keyboard, but without effect.

*Originally posted by:* [brozi...@gmail.com](http://code.google.com/u/113225053370358271981/) "Try multitouch Ctrl- ..." Yes, it does good with multitouch \(ctrl+any key\). "Another thing to try ..." No, the problem is still same. "Also, can you try ..." No, it doesn't helped. I tried switch the input's keyboard, but without effect.

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Anonymous - 2012-01-20

Originally posted by: Klaus.We...@gmail.com

I'm still unsure what's going on here, but I've added a slightly experimental workaround in [rf9d7119a7796] under the assumption that the underlying KeyCharacterMap based event handling code is getting confused.

Can you please try version 1.30rc1 (or later) from http://code.google.com/p/hackerskeyboard/downloads/list and let me know if that fixes your issue?

Status: FixInTest

*Originally posted by:* [Klaus.We...@gmail.com](http://code.google.com/u/115621749438987443961/) I'm still unsure what's going on here, but I've added a slightly experimental workaround in [rf9d7119a7796] under the assumption that the underlying KeyCharacterMap based event handling code is getting confused. Can you please try version 1.30rc1 \(or later\) from [http://code.google.com/p/hackerskeyboard/downloads/list](http://code.google.com/p/hackerskeyboard/downloads/list) and let me know if that fixes your issue? **Status:** FixInTest

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Anonymous - 2012-01-21

Originally posted by: brozi...@gmail.com

Unfortunately, the problem is not resolved. I tested rc1 and rc2.

I tested other ROM, busybox, but the problem was everywhere.

I have one news, the ConnectBot works properly.

*Originally posted by:* [brozi...@gmail.com](http://code.google.com/u/113225053370358271981/) Unfortunately, the problem is not resolved. I tested rc1 and rc2. I tested other ROM, busybox, but the problem was everywhere. I have one news, the ConnectBot works properly.

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Anonymous - 2012-01-25

Originally posted by: brozi...@gmail.com

Hi,

I have a new investigation. When I press the CTRL key, then I press some other key, the keyboard isn't responding. But when I press CTRL again, it will unlock and I can write normally. It seems that CTRL don't recognize when some key without defined action was pressed, the indicator light dissapear, but keyboard looks like the CTRL is still down.

*Originally posted by:* [brozi...@gmail.com](http://code.google.com/u/113225053370358271981/) Hi, I have a new investigation. When I press the CTRL key, then I press some other key, the keyboard isn't responding. But when I press CTRL again, it will unlock and I can write normally. It seems that CTRL don't recognize when some key without defined action was pressed, the indicator light dissapear, but keyboard looks like the CTRL is still down.

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Anonymous - 2012-01-25

Originally posted by: Klaus.We...@gmail.com

Thanks for the updates and for testing. I have a theory about what's going on, but unfortunately it may be a lot of work to fix.

The modifier key handling in Android is rather complicated, and involves redundant state tracking in three places - inside the keyboard, inside the input connection details managed by the system libraries, and inside the application receiving input. When these get out of sync, you run into problems like this one.

The Ctrl key's indicator light is supposed to be a reliable indication of the internal keyboard state, but I suspect that the system libraries get confused managing the input connection. See http://developer.android.com/reference/android/view/KeyCharacterMap.html#getModifierBehavior() for details, apparently some keymaps support toggle behavior for modifiers in addition to chorded behavior, and misinterpreting the key events sent by the keyboard which assumes normal (chorded) key behavior.

Unfortunately I'm not aware of a compatible way to influence the KeyCharacterMap translation layer, and this appears to be an area where vendor-specific changes confuse things.

I'm thinking about rewriting the key event handling to remove the dependency on the system library translation layer, but that's not easy, and I worry about introducing additional incompatibilities where the vendor changes are more extensive.

Anyway, a few more things to test:

- you said earlier that multitouch (chorded) Ctrl has the same problem. Can you confirm that this is also the case if you *only* use chorded Ctrl for a session? I don't expect it to fix a wedged input connection, but I wonder if it would prevent the problem if you never use the toggle Ctrl method.

- I uploaded a simple keyboard tester app, would you be willing to try that? To simulate the terminal emulator behavior, turn off the "Focus" checkbox and tap the "Keys" button to bring up the keyboard. Then it should show key events for the keys you press, newest on top. Can you replicate the problem there? The thing to look for would be if key events still show the CTRL modifier when the keyboard's Ctrl LED is off. http://code.google.com/p/hackerskeyboard/downloads/detail?name=KeytestActivity-debug.apk

Status: Accepted

*Originally posted by:* [Klaus.We...@gmail.com](http://code.google.com/u/115621749438987443961/) Thanks for the updates and for testing. I have a theory about what's going on, but unfortunately it may be a lot of work to fix. The modifier key handling in Android is rather complicated, and involves redundant state tracking in three places - inside the keyboard, inside the input connection details managed by the system libraries, and inside the application receiving input. When these get out of sync, you run into problems like this one. The Ctrl key's indicator light is supposed to be a reliable indication of the internal keyboard state, but I suspect that the system libraries get confused managing the input connection. See [http://developer.android.com/reference/android/view/KeyCharacterMap.html#getModifierBehavior()](http://developer.android.com/reference/android/view/KeyCharacterMap.html#getModifierBehavior()) for details, apparently some keymaps support toggle behavior for modifiers in addition to chorded behavior, and misinterpreting the key events sent by the keyboard which assumes normal \(chorded\) key behavior. Unfortunately I'm not aware of a compatible way to influence the KeyCharacterMap translation layer, and this appears to be an area where vendor-specific changes confuse things. I'm thinking about rewriting the key event handling to remove the dependency on the system library translation layer, but that's not easy, and I worry about introducing additional incompatibilities where the vendor changes are more extensive. Anyway, a few more things to test: \- you said earlier that multitouch \(chorded\) Ctrl has the same problem. Can you confirm that this is also the case if you \*only\* use chorded Ctrl for a session? I don't expect it to fix a wedged input connection, but I wonder if it would prevent the problem if you never use the toggle Ctrl method. \- I uploaded a simple keyboard tester app, would you be willing to try that? To simulate the terminal emulator behavior, turn off the "Focus" checkbox and tap the "Keys" button to bring up the keyboard. Then it should show key events for the keys you press, newest on top. Can you replicate the problem there? The thing to look for would be if key events still show the CTRL modifier when the keyboard's Ctrl LED is off. [http://code.google.com/p/hackerskeyboard/downloads/detail?name=KeytestActivity-debug.apk](http://code.google.com/p/hackerskeyboard/downloads/detail?name=KeytestActivity-debug.apk) **Status:** Accepted

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Anonymous - 2012-01-25

Originally posted by: rangels...@gmail.com

Just to add, I have the exact same problem, with the Terminal Emulator app. It does not happen in ConnectBot, but for the application I am using (Ubuntu console mode), Terminal Emulator works better (better handling of TERMINFO, editors works flawlessly).

*Originally posted by:* [rangels...@gmail.com](http://code.google.com/u/110723253508294078431/) Just to add, I have the exact same problem, with the Terminal Emulator app. It does not happen in ConnectBot, but for the application I am using \(Ubuntu console mode\), Terminal Emulator works better \(better handling of TERMINFO, editors works flawlessly\).

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Anonymous - 2012-01-25

Originally posted by: rangels...@gmail.com

It seems that more people are having this problem in Terminal Emulator, see thread:

https://github.com/jackpal/Android-Terminal-Emulator/issues/73

*Originally posted by:* [rangels...@gmail.com](http://code.google.com/u/110723253508294078431/) It seems that more people are having this problem in Terminal Emulator, see thread: [https://github.com/jackpal/Android-Terminal-Emulator/issues/73](https://github.com/jackpal/Android-Terminal-Emulator/issues/73)

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Anonymous - 2012-01-25

Originally posted by: Klaus.We...@gmail.com

The information from the Android-Terminal-Emulator bug helps, especially that it appears to happen with hardware keyboards too. I may be able to work around the problem in Hacker's Keyboard, but it does sound as if this is an OS level problem.

*Originally posted by:* [Klaus.We...@gmail.com](http://code.google.com/u/115621749438987443961/) The information from the Android-Terminal-Emulator bug helps, especially that it appears to happen with hardware keyboards too. I may be able to work around the problem in Hacker's Keyboard, but it does sound as if this is an OS level problem.

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Anonymous - 2012-01-25

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Key tester output ‒ looks fine to me…

Tapping Ctrl causes corresponding key-down & key-up events.
Tapping A causes Ctrl down, A down, A up, Ctrl up; all with ‘meta=CTRL|CTRL_LEFT’.
Tapping A again causes A down, A up; meta=.

Ctrl-A (multitouch) causes Ctrl down, A down, A up, Ctrl up; all with ‘meta=CTRL|CTRL_LEFT’.
Tapping A again causes A down, A up; meta=.

Tapping Ctrl causes corresponding key-down & key-up events.
Ctrl-A (multitouch) causes Ctrl down, A down, A up, Ctrl up; all with ‘meta=CTRL|CTRL_LEFT’.
Tapping A again causes A down, A up; meta=.

*Originally posted by:* [justanot...@googlemail.com](http://code.google.com/u/107727341592587893235/) Key tester output ‒ looks fine to me… Tapping Ctrl causes corresponding key-down & key-up events. Tapping A causes Ctrl down, A down, A up, Ctrl up;  all with ‘meta=CTRL|CTRL\_LEFT’. Tapping A again causes A down, A up;  meta=. Ctrl-A \(multitouch\) causes Ctrl down, A down, A up, Ctrl up;  all with ‘meta=CTRL|CTRL\_LEFT’. Tapping A again causes A down, A up;  meta=. Tapping Ctrl causes corresponding key-down & key-up events. Ctrl-A \(multitouch\) causes Ctrl down, A down, A up, Ctrl up;  all with ‘meta=CTRL|CTRL\_LEFT’. Tapping A again causes A down, A up;  meta=.

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Anonymous - 2012-01-25

Originally posted by: justanot...@googlemail.com

That was with 1.29 (with a few compose-related patches); 1.30rc2 behaves identically.

*Originally posted by:* [justanot...@googlemail.com](http://code.google.com/u/107727341592587893235/) That was with 1.29 \(with a few compose-related patches\); 1.30rc2 behaves identically.

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Anonymous - 2012-01-25

Originally posted by: Klaus.We...@gmail.com

Thanks for the updates, I've been able to reproduce it with Android-Terminal-Emulator and have a brand-new workaround in [r7307574f2e2f].

Please try v1.30rc3 (or later) from http://code.google.com/p/hackerskeyboard/downloads/list and let me know if this improves things. It adds new options for the key events generated by standalone Ctrl and Alt keys, by default these are now ignored and only applied when modifying other keys.

Status: FixInTest

*Originally posted by:* [Klaus.We...@gmail.com](http://code.google.com/u/115621749438987443961/) Thanks for the updates, I've been able to reproduce it with Android-Terminal-Emulator and have a brand-new workaround in [r7307574f2e2f]. Please try v1.30rc3 \(or later\) from [http://code.google.com/p/hackerskeyboard/downloads/list](http://code.google.com/p/hackerskeyboard/downloads/list) and let me know if this improves things. It adds new options for the key events generated by standalone Ctrl and Alt keys, by default these are now ignored and only applied when modifying other keys. **Status:** FixInTest

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Anonymous - 2012-01-25

Originally posted by: justanot...@googlemail.com

Looks like that's working here… ☺

*Originally posted by:* [justanot...@googlemail.com](http://code.google.com/u/107727341592587893235/) Looks like that's working here… ☺

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Anonymous - 2012-01-26

Originally posted by: brozi...@gmail.com

Version hackerskeyboard-v1030rc3.apk works perfectly :)

Thx for your work.

*Originally posted by:* [brozi...@gmail.com](http://code.google.com/u/113225053370358271981/) Version hackerskeyboard-v1030rc3.apk works perfectly :\) Thx for your work.

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Anonymous - 2012-01-26

Originally posted by: rangels...@gmail.com

I installed this version, it fixed some problems, but not everything for me.

For example, using nano, to save I do "Ctrl-o <return>", but after doing
Ctrl-O, I need to press another Ctrl otherwise <return> does not work.
Also exiting with Ctrl-x after saving, previously I needed to use ctrl 2
times now it seems to work with only 1, but when getting back to the
terminal, ctrl is still pressed, pressing "c" yelds a Ctrl-c.

*Originally posted by:* [rangels...@gmail.com](http://code.google.com/u/110723253508294078431/) I installed this version, it fixed some problems, but not everything for me. For example, using nano, to save I do "Ctrl-o <return>", but after doing Ctrl-O, I need to press another Ctrl otherwise <return> does not work. Also exiting with Ctrl-x after saving, previously I needed to use ctrl 2 times now it seems to work with only 1, but when getting back to the terminal, ctrl is still pressed, pressing "c" yelds a Ctrl-c.

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Anonymous - 2012-01-26

Originally posted by: Klaus.We...@gmail.com

rangelspam, that's odd. Can you check settings to make sure you have the new "Ctrl key code" option set to "None"? Also, if you're using Android-Terminal-Emulator, try yesterday's new version of that which is supposed to fix the underlying issue.

If you're still having the issue, can you please describe in detail which keys you are pressing and releasing, and what state the Ctrl indicator shows on the keyboard? I can't tell from your description if you are using Ctrl in chording (multitouch) mode or as a sticky key that modifies the next one.

*Originally posted by:* [Klaus.We...@gmail.com](http://code.google.com/u/115621749438987443961/) rangelspam, that's odd. Can you check settings to make sure you have the new "Ctrl key code" option set to "None"? Also, if you're using Android-Terminal-Emulator, try yesterday's new version of that which is supposed to fix the underlying issue. If you're still having the issue, can you please describe in detail which keys you are pressing and releasing, and what state the Ctrl indicator shows on the keyboard? I can't tell from your description if you are using Ctrl in chording \(multitouch\) mode or as a sticky key that modifies the next one.

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Anonymous - 2012-02-24

Originally posted by: Klaus.We...@gmail.com

[bulk bug update]

The changes from the 1.30rcX prerelease series are included in version 1.31 as published on Android Market, and this bug should be fixed. If it's still not working for you, please reopen or file a new bug. Thanks to everyone who helped with finding bugs and testing!

Status: Fixed

*Originally posted by:* [Klaus.We...@gmail.com](http://code.google.com/u/115621749438987443961/) \[bulk bug update\] The changes from the 1.30rcX prerelease series are included in version 1.31 as published on Android Market, and this bug should be fixed. If it's still not working for you, please reopen or file a new bug. Thanks to everyone who helped with finding bugs and testing\! **Status:** Fixed

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Anonymous - 2012-02-25

Originally posted by: brozi...@gmail.com

Thx for your hard job, but the problem with the ctrl there is still.

If I press ctrl + "s", the terminal full broke and I must close the window and run next the terminal again.

*Originally posted by:* [brozi...@gmail.com](http://code.google.com/u/113225053370358271981/) Thx for your hard job, but the problem with the ctrl there is still. If I press ctrl + "s", the terminal full broke and I must close the window and run next the terminal again.

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Anonymous - 2012-02-25

Originally posted by: Klaus.We...@gmail.com

brozikcz, can you please check the following items:

- ensure you're running v1.30rc5 or v1.31, see the version at the bottom of the settings menu
- "Ctrl key code" and "Alt key code" should be set to "None"

Also, which terminal program are you using? Does Ctrl get stuck in other programs too? Which device and Android version?

And are you using multitouch Ctrl or using keys in sequence?

Status: NeedInfo

*Originally posted by:* [Klaus.We...@gmail.com](http://code.google.com/u/115621749438987443961/) brozikcz, can you please check the following items: \- ensure you're running v1.30rc5 or v1.31, see the version at the bottom of the settings menu \- "Ctrl key code" and "Alt key code" should be set to "None" Also, which terminal program are you using? Does Ctrl get stuck in other programs too? Which device and Android version? And are you using multitouch Ctrl or using keys in sequence? **Status:** NeedInfo

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Anonymous - 2012-02-25

Originally posted by: brozi...@gmail.com

I have latest version from market - 1.31.
"Ctrl key code" and "Alt key code" are set to none.

I use latest Terminal Emulator and ConnectBot in ICS 4.0.3 (device TF101) and are stoped work with multitouch and also with in sequence.

*Originally posted by:* [brozi...@gmail.com](http://code.google.com/u/113225053370358271981/) I have latest version from market - 1.31. "Ctrl key code" and "Alt key code" are set to none. I use latest Terminal Emulator and ConnectBot in ICS 4.0.3 \(device TF101\) and are stoped work with multitouch and also with in sequence.

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i would like to press Ctrl+Shift+i+k together but does not work, for some reason

*Originally posted by:* [pdwag...@gmail.com](http://code.google.com/u/108858397744283100197/) i would like to press Ctrl+Shift+i+k together but does not work, for some reason

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