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From: Erdem G. <erd...@ya...> - 2009-03-06 08:31:51
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Hi all, since I have no experience with the disctributed VCS so far, I was not in favor of that, but always, I take your considerations into account, I will have a look at Git and Hg, and then see if and how SourceForge supports that, then we can decide how to proceed with that, best regards, Erdem ________________________________ From: Edwin Commandeur <com...@gm...> To: gwt...@li... Sent: Tuesday, March 3, 2009 12:07:23 AM Subject: Re: [Gwt-openlayers-devl] Devl mailing list Hi all, I agree with Farrukh that it would be best to migrate to a distributed VCS directly, instead of first migrating to SVN first and then to a distributed VCS second. If we want a distributed VCS it's better to dive into it now, so we can get experienced with it. Also, Git is supported by SF (unlike Hg, as I am now aware). That said, I still have worries about Git on Windows, since my work laptop is a Windows machine. Does Farrukh or anyone else has experience with Git command line clients on windows? I would like to be able to interact with Git outside of Eclipse. The msysGit project looks promising, so I will definitely download that and give it a testdrive. If anyone has experience with Git on Windows, and can testify it works, then I would be all for Git. How about Erdem, and the others? I have good faith that all the major IDEs will be supporting Git, since Eclipse and IntelliJ already do. Should we however decide on SVN then I would be willing to do the migration. Greetings, Edwin 2009/3/2 Farrukh Najmi <fa...@we...> Just to be clear. You opt for migrating from CVS to svn then perhaps later to git or hg? Why not just stay with cvs until we go to git or hg? Why migrate twice? IMHO svn's advantages over cvs are modest. That said I will be fine with going to svn if that is a popular option and if someone else does the migration. Thanks. Erdem Gunay wrote: > First of all, thanks to Farrukh for letting us communicate through dev mailing list, > > at the moment, I prefer to stay with SVN, in the future once it is officially supported and many developers are used to git, or hg, we can move to that one, > > best regards, > > Erdem, > > > > ----- Original Message ---- > From: Farrukh Najmi <fa...@we...> > To: gwt...@li... > Sent: Sunday, March 1, 2009 3:30:46 PM > Subject: Re: [Gwt-openlayers-devl] Devl mailing list > > > Unfortunately, as Curtis reminded me, hg is not offered by SF. > > So the choice is between svn and git. I have used git enough to know > that it does work out of the box with a minor learning curve. I would > prefer git but like most of us I can live with svn. > > Are there other folks who would prefer to stay with svn rather than > learning git? > > Note that with IDE support for NetBeans and eclipse the learning curve > should not be that much of an issue. > > Thanks. > > Edwin Commandeur wrote: > >> Hi there, >> >> I am perfectly happy with SVN, which I think would already be a major >> improvement over CVS and would suit our needs fine, but I would also >> agree with using Hg. >> >> I have more confidence in Hg than in Git, because to my mind a VCS >> tool should just work, and not be so open ended as Git. >> >> Also, as a Java Developer I think about projects as Open JDK for which >> they are also using Hg, so I would be interested to learn about Hg >> more than about Git. >> >> Having not used any of the distributed VCS tools, I cannot talk from >> experience, but on the Git vs Mercurial comparison it is stated that >> "migrating from Subversion/CVS to git requires a lot of work. Linus >> has made it clear that he disagrees with the fundamental ideas behind >> Subversion/CVS" >> >> I have no idea if migrating from CVS to Mercurial is any easier, but >> that could also be a consideration to take into account. >> >> Greetings, >> Edwin >> >> >> gwt...@li... >> <mailto:gwt...@li...> >> >> 2009/3/1 Farrukh Najmi <fa...@we... >> <mailto:fa...@we...>> >> >> >> I have not used hg and have used git a little so can't say I have a >> strong opinion between the two DVCS tools. Here is a good blog >> comparing >> the two: >> >> <http://importantshock.wordpress.com/2008/08/07/git-vs-mercurial/> >> >> High order bit decision is whether we should do a more modern >> distributed version control system like git or hg instead of svn. >> So far >> it sounds like the opinions are in the YES camp. >> >> I can go with either hg or git. Lets see what others feel. Thanks. >> >> Aaron Novstrup wrote: >> > If you're going to switch to a DVCS, I'd recommend hg since >> AFAIK it's >> > better than git for cross-platform development. No strong >> preference, >> > though, just my two cents. >> > >> > Farrukh Najmi wrote: >> >> Dear team mates, >> >> >> >> Here is our list for the dev team to communicate. I will set us >> up on >> >> the other two lists (users, commits) shortly. >> >> >> >> I noticed that SF now offers git as a version control system (VCS). >> >> git was created by Linus of Linux fame and is used by projects like >> >> Linux. Its is better than svn and one of the best VCS available. >> >> >> >> What do folks think of using git instead of svn? The main advantage >> >> svn has is one of familiarity. However git has many advanced >> features >> >> beyond svn (distributed VCS being an important one). >> >> >> >> Here is a useful resource: >> >> >> >> <http://git.or.cz/gitwiki/GitSvnComparsion> >> >> >> >> Please share your thoughts on this. Thanks. >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> > > > -- Regards, Farrukh Web: http://www.wellfleetsoftware.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Open Source Business Conference (OSBC), March 24-25, 2009, San Francisco, CA -OSBC tackles the biggest issue in open source: Open Sourcing the Enterprise -Strategies to boost innovation and cut costs with open source participation -Receive a $600 discount off the registration fee with the source code: SFAD http://p.sf.net/sfu/XcvMzF8H _______________________________________________ Gwt-openlayers-devl mailing list Gwt...@li... https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/gwt-openlayers-devl |
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From: Farrukh N. <fa...@we...> - 2009-03-03 02:48:23
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Hi Aaron, I have no past experience with bitbucket.org. I just took a quick look and my initialsense is that SF is much more mature in comparison and offers way more services. Respectfully, I would not be in favor of moving away from SF. Again from my perspective I consider getting the project active with a good site of mailing lists, wiki pages etc. is more important than VCS choice and move away from SF seems to be undesirable. Thanks. Aaron Novstrup wrote: > It may be worthwhile to consider migrating to bitbucket.org. Like SF, > Bitbucket provides free hosting for open source projects, plus really > nice hg integration, a wiki, and an integrated issue tracker. -- Regards, Farrukh Web: http://www.wellfleetsoftware.com |
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From: Aaron N. <ano...@st...> - 2009-03-03 00:35:34
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It may be worthwhile to consider migrating to bitbucket.org. Like SF, Bitbucket provides free hosting for open source projects, plus really nice hg integration, a wiki, and an integrated issue tracker. ~Aaron Edwin Commandeur wrote: > Hi all, > > I agree with Farrukh that it would be best to migrate to a distributed > VCS directly, instead of first migrating to SVN first and then to a > distributed VCS second. If we want a distributed VCS it's better to > dive into it now, so we can get experienced with it. Also, Git is > supported by SF (unlike Hg, as I am now aware). > > That said, I still have worries about Git on Windows, since my work > laptop is a Windows machine. > > Does Farrukh or anyone else has experience with Git command line > clients on windows? I would like to be able to interact with Git > outside of Eclipse. The msysGit project looks promising, so I will > definitely download that and give it a testdrive. > > If anyone has experience with Git on Windows, and can testify it > works, then I would be all for Git. How about Erdem, and the others? > > I have good faith that all the major IDEs will be supporting Git, > since Eclipse and IntelliJ already do. > > Should we however decide on SVN then I would be willing to do the > migration. > > Greetings, > Edwin > > > 2009/3/2 Farrukh Najmi <fa...@we... > <mailto:fa...@we...>> > > > Just to be clear. You opt for migrating from CVS to svn then perhaps > later to git or hg? > Why not just stay with cvs until we go to git or hg? Why migrate > twice? > > IMHO svn's advantages over cvs are modest. > > That said I will be fine with going to svn if that is a popular option > and if someone else does the migration. > > Thanks. > > Erdem Gunay wrote: > > First of all, thanks to Farrukh for letting us communicate > through dev mailing list, > > > > at the moment, I prefer to stay with SVN, in the future once it > is officially supported and many developers are used to git, or > hg, we can move to that one, > > > > best regards, > > > > Erdem, > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ---- > > From: Farrukh Najmi <fa...@we... > <mailto:fa...@we...>> > > To: gwt...@li... > <mailto:gwt...@li...> > > Sent: Sunday, March 1, 2009 3:30:46 PM > > Subject: Re: [Gwt-openlayers-devl] Devl mailing list > > > > > > Unfortunately, as Curtis reminded me, hg is not offered by SF. > > > > So the choice is between svn and git. I have used git enough to know > > that it does work out of the box with a minor learning curve. I > would > > prefer git but like most of us I can live with svn. > > > > Are there other folks who would prefer to stay with svn rather than > > learning git? > > > > Note that with IDE support for NetBeans and eclipse the learning > curve > > should not be that much of an issue. > > > > Thanks. > > > > Edwin Commandeur wrote: > > > >> Hi there, > >> > >> I am perfectly happy with SVN, which I think would already be a > major > >> improvement over CVS and would suit our needs fine, but I would > also > >> agree with using Hg. > >> > >> I have more confidence in Hg than in Git, because to my mind a VCS > >> tool should just work, and not be so open ended as Git. > >> > >> Also, as a Java Developer I think about projects as Open JDK > for which > >> they are also using Hg, so I would be interested to learn about Hg > >> more than about Git. > >> > >> Having not used any of the distributed VCS tools, I cannot talk > from > >> experience, but on the Git vs Mercurial comparison it is stated > that > >> "migrating from Subversion/CVS to git requires a lot of work. Linus > >> has made it clear that he disagrees with the fundamental ideas > behind > >> Subversion/CVS" > >> > >> I have no idea if migrating from CVS to Mercurial is any > easier, but > >> that could also be a consideration to take into account. > >> > >> Greetings, > >> Edwin > >> > >> > >> gwt...@li... > <mailto:gwt...@li...> > >> <mailto:gwt...@li... > <mailto:gwt...@li...>> > >> > >> 2009/3/1 Farrukh Najmi <fa...@we... > <mailto:fa...@we...> > >> <mailto:fa...@we... > <mailto:fa...@we...>>> > >> > >> > >> I have not used hg and have used git a little so can't say > I have a > >> strong opinion between the two DVCS tools. Here is a good blog > >> comparing > >> the two: > >> > >> > <http://importantshock.wordpress.com/2008/08/07/git-vs-mercurial/> > >> > >> High order bit decision is whether we should do a more modern > >> distributed version control system like git or hg instead > of svn. > >> So far > >> it sounds like the opinions are in the YES camp. > >> > >> I can go with either hg or git. Lets see what others feel. > Thanks. > >> > >> Aaron Novstrup wrote: > >> > If you're going to switch to a DVCS, I'd recommend hg since > >> AFAIK it's > >> > better than git for cross-platform development. No strong > >> preference, > >> > though, just my two cents. > >> > > >> > Farrukh Najmi wrote: > >> >> Dear team mates, > >> >> > >> >> Here is our list for the dev team to communicate. I will > set us > >> up on > >> >> the other two lists (users, commits) shortly. > >> >> > >> >> I noticed that SF now offers git as a version control > system (VCS). > >> >> git was created by Linus of Linux fame and is used by > projects like > >> >> Linux. Its is better than svn and one of the best VCS > available. > >> >> > >> >> What do folks think of using git instead of svn? The > main advantage > >> >> svn has is one of familiarity. However git has many advanced > >> features > >> >> beyond svn (distributed VCS being an important one). > >> >> > >> >> Here is a useful resource: > >> >> > >> >> <http://git.or.cz/gitwiki/GitSvnComparsion> > >> >> > >> >> Please share your thoughts on this. Thanks. > >> >> > >> >> > >> > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > -- > Regards, > Farrukh > > Web: http://www.wellfleetsoftware.com > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Open Source Business Conference (OSBC), March 24-25, 2009, San > Francisco, CA > -OSBC tackles the biggest issue in open source: Open Sourcing the > Enterprise > -Strategies to boost innovation and cut costs with open source > participation > -Receive a $600 discount off the registration fee with the source > code: SFAD > http://p.sf.net/sfu/XcvMzF8H > _______________________________________________ > Gwt-openlayers-devl mailing list > Gwt...@li... > <mailto:Gwt...@li...> > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/gwt-openlayers-devl > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Open Source Business Conference (OSBC), March 24-25, 2009, San Francisco, CA > -OSBC tackles the biggest issue in open source: Open Sourcing the Enterprise > -Strategies to boost innovation and cut costs with open source participation > -Receive a $600 discount off the registration fee with the source code: SFAD > http://p.sf.net/sfu/XcvMzF8H > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > _______________________________________________ > Gwt-openlayers-devl mailing list > Gwt...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/gwt-openlayers-devl > |
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From: Edwin C. <com...@gm...> - 2009-03-02 22:07:30
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Hi all, I agree with Farrukh that it would be best to migrate to a distributed VCS directly, instead of first migrating to SVN first and then to a distributed VCS second. If we want a distributed VCS it's better to dive into it now, so we can get experienced with it. Also, Git is supported by SF (unlike Hg, as I am now aware). That said, I still have worries about Git on Windows, since my work laptop is a Windows machine. Does Farrukh or anyone else has experience with Git command line clients on windows? I would like to be able to interact with Git outside of Eclipse. The msysGit project looks promising, so I will definitely download that and give it a testdrive. If anyone has experience with Git on Windows, and can testify it works, then I would be all for Git. How about Erdem, and the others? I have good faith that all the major IDEs will be supporting Git, since Eclipse and IntelliJ already do. Should we however decide on SVN then I would be willing to do the migration. Greetings, Edwin 2009/3/2 Farrukh Najmi <fa...@we...> > > Just to be clear. You opt for migrating from CVS to svn then perhaps > later to git or hg? > Why not just stay with cvs until we go to git or hg? Why migrate twice? > > IMHO svn's advantages over cvs are modest. > > That said I will be fine with going to svn if that is a popular option > and if someone else does the migration. > > Thanks. > > Erdem Gunay wrote: > > First of all, thanks to Farrukh for letting us communicate through dev > mailing list, > > > > at the moment, I prefer to stay with SVN, in the future once it is > officially supported and many developers are used to git, or hg, we can move > to that one, > > > > best regards, > > > > Erdem, > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ---- > > From: Farrukh Najmi <fa...@we...> > > To: gwt...@li... > > Sent: Sunday, March 1, 2009 3:30:46 PM > > Subject: Re: [Gwt-openlayers-devl] Devl mailing list > > > > > > Unfortunately, as Curtis reminded me, hg is not offered by SF. > > > > So the choice is between svn and git. I have used git enough to know > > that it does work out of the box with a minor learning curve. I would > > prefer git but like most of us I can live with svn. > > > > Are there other folks who would prefer to stay with svn rather than > > learning git? > > > > Note that with IDE support for NetBeans and eclipse the learning curve > > should not be that much of an issue. > > > > Thanks. > > > > Edwin Commandeur wrote: > > > >> Hi there, > >> > >> I am perfectly happy with SVN, which I think would already be a major > >> improvement over CVS and would suit our needs fine, but I would also > >> agree with using Hg. > >> > >> I have more confidence in Hg than in Git, because to my mind a VCS > >> tool should just work, and not be so open ended as Git. > >> > >> Also, as a Java Developer I think about projects as Open JDK for which > >> they are also using Hg, so I would be interested to learn about Hg > >> more than about Git. > >> > >> Having not used any of the distributed VCS tools, I cannot talk from > >> experience, but on the Git vs Mercurial comparison it is stated that > >> "migrating from Subversion/CVS to git requires a lot of work. Linus > >> has made it clear that he disagrees with the fundamental ideas behind > >> Subversion/CVS" > >> > >> I have no idea if migrating from CVS to Mercurial is any easier, but > >> that could also be a consideration to take into account. > >> > >> Greetings, > >> Edwin > >> > >> > >> gwt...@li... > >> <mailto:gwt...@li...> > >> > >> 2009/3/1 Farrukh Najmi <fa...@we... > >> <mailto:fa...@we...>> > >> > >> > >> I have not used hg and have used git a little so can't say I have a > >> strong opinion between the two DVCS tools. Here is a good blog > >> comparing > >> the two: > >> > >> <http://importantshock.wordpress.com/2008/08/07/git-vs-mercurial/> > >> > >> High order bit decision is whether we should do a more modern > >> distributed version control system like git or hg instead of svn. > >> So far > >> it sounds like the opinions are in the YES camp. > >> > >> I can go with either hg or git. Lets see what others feel. Thanks. > >> > >> Aaron Novstrup wrote: > >> > If you're going to switch to a DVCS, I'd recommend hg since > >> AFAIK it's > >> > better than git for cross-platform development. No strong > >> preference, > >> > though, just my two cents. > >> > > >> > Farrukh Najmi wrote: > >> >> Dear team mates, > >> >> > >> >> Here is our list for the dev team to communicate. I will set us > >> up on > >> >> the other two lists (users, commits) shortly. > >> >> > >> >> I noticed that SF now offers git as a version control system > (VCS). > >> >> git was created by Linus of Linux fame and is used by projects > like > >> >> Linux. Its is better than svn and one of the best VCS available. > >> >> > >> >> What do folks think of using git instead of svn? The main > advantage > >> >> svn has is one of familiarity. However git has many advanced > >> features > >> >> beyond svn (distributed VCS being an important one). > >> >> > >> >> Here is a useful resource: > >> >> > >> >> <http://git.or.cz/gitwiki/GitSvnComparsion> > >> >> > >> >> Please share your thoughts on this. Thanks. > >> >> > >> >> > >> > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > -- > Regards, > Farrukh > > Web: http://www.wellfleetsoftware.com > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Open Source Business Conference (OSBC), March 24-25, 2009, San Francisco, > CA > -OSBC tackles the biggest issue in open source: Open Sourcing the > Enterprise > -Strategies to boost innovation and cut costs with open source > participation > -Receive a $600 discount off the registration fee with the source code: > SFAD > http://p.sf.net/sfu/XcvMzF8H > _______________________________________________ > Gwt-openlayers-devl mailing list > Gwt...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/gwt-openlayers-devl > |
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From: Farrukh N. <fa...@we...> - 2009-03-02 14:47:35
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Just to be clear. You opt for migrating from CVS to svn then perhaps later to git or hg? Why not just stay with cvs until we go to git or hg? Why migrate twice? IMHO svn's advantages over cvs are modest. That said I will be fine with going to svn if that is a popular option and if someone else does the migration. Thanks. Erdem Gunay wrote: > First of all, thanks to Farrukh for letting us communicate through dev mailing list, > > at the moment, I prefer to stay with SVN, in the future once it is officially supported and many developers are used to git, or hg, we can move to that one, > > best regards, > > Erdem, > > > > ----- Original Message ---- > From: Farrukh Najmi <fa...@we...> > To: gwt...@li... > Sent: Sunday, March 1, 2009 3:30:46 PM > Subject: Re: [Gwt-openlayers-devl] Devl mailing list > > > Unfortunately, as Curtis reminded me, hg is not offered by SF. > > So the choice is between svn and git. I have used git enough to know > that it does work out of the box with a minor learning curve. I would > prefer git but like most of us I can live with svn. > > Are there other folks who would prefer to stay with svn rather than > learning git? > > Note that with IDE support for NetBeans and eclipse the learning curve > should not be that much of an issue. > > Thanks. > > Edwin Commandeur wrote: > >> Hi there, >> >> I am perfectly happy with SVN, which I think would already be a major >> improvement over CVS and would suit our needs fine, but I would also >> agree with using Hg. >> >> I have more confidence in Hg than in Git, because to my mind a VCS >> tool should just work, and not be so open ended as Git. >> >> Also, as a Java Developer I think about projects as Open JDK for which >> they are also using Hg, so I would be interested to learn about Hg >> more than about Git. >> >> Having not used any of the distributed VCS tools, I cannot talk from >> experience, but on the Git vs Mercurial comparison it is stated that >> "migrating from Subversion/CVS to git requires a lot of work. Linus >> has made it clear that he disagrees with the fundamental ideas behind >> Subversion/CVS" >> >> I have no idea if migrating from CVS to Mercurial is any easier, but >> that could also be a consideration to take into account. >> >> Greetings, >> Edwin >> >> >> gwt...@li... >> <mailto:gwt...@li...> >> >> 2009/3/1 Farrukh Najmi <fa...@we... >> <mailto:fa...@we...>> >> >> >> I have not used hg and have used git a little so can't say I have a >> strong opinion between the two DVCS tools. Here is a good blog >> comparing >> the two: >> >> <http://importantshock.wordpress.com/2008/08/07/git-vs-mercurial/> >> >> High order bit decision is whether we should do a more modern >> distributed version control system like git or hg instead of svn. >> So far >> it sounds like the opinions are in the YES camp. >> >> I can go with either hg or git. Lets see what others feel. Thanks. >> >> Aaron Novstrup wrote: >> > If you're going to switch to a DVCS, I'd recommend hg since >> AFAIK it's >> > better than git for cross-platform development. No strong >> preference, >> > though, just my two cents. >> > >> > Farrukh Najmi wrote: >> >> Dear team mates, >> >> >> >> Here is our list for the dev team to communicate. I will set us >> up on >> >> the other two lists (users, commits) shortly. >> >> >> >> I noticed that SF now offers git as a version control system (VCS). >> >> git was created by Linus of Linux fame and is used by projects like >> >> Linux. Its is better than svn and one of the best VCS available. >> >> >> >> What do folks think of using git instead of svn? The main advantage >> >> svn has is one of familiarity. However git has many advanced >> features >> >> beyond svn (distributed VCS being an important one). >> >> >> >> Here is a useful resource: >> >> >> >> <http://git.or.cz/gitwiki/GitSvnComparsion> >> >> >> >> Please share your thoughts on this. Thanks. >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> > > > -- Regards, Farrukh Web: http://www.wellfleetsoftware.com |
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From: Farrukh N. <fa...@we...> - 2009-03-01 21:55:17
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thanks for the links. It seems it is not officially supported but possible. See irc chat log with SF support: " Farrukh: Hi Guys, Quick q. Does SF have any plans to provided hg (mercurial) as a hosted app similar to cvs, svn, git? (04:44:07 PM) cmaloney: Hi farrukh_najmi, we don't pre-announce any initiatives unfortunately. (04:44:56 PM) cmaloney: Also, a point of clarification, git, svn and cvs aren't hosted applications. (04:45:10 PM) cmaloney: hosted apps are applications like Mediawiki, phpBB, etc. (04:45:32 PM) cmaloney: cvs, svn, and git are all scm services. (04:46:24 PM) cmaloney: If you'd like to ask for Mercurial support, please post a support request.� " My guess is that its only a matter of time until it is supported. Perhaps I will make the support request and then we just wait until its done and stay with cvs until then? I would be OK with that. Thanks. Edwin Commandeur wrote: > Hi Farrukh, > > According to this page SF support Hg since september 2008: > > http://www.selenic.com/mercurial/wiki/index.cgi/MercurialOnSourceforge > > Also I found some documentation on how to convert a CVS repo to Hg: > > http://nivox.blogspot.com/2008/02/cvs-to-mercurial.html > > As before, I can't speak from experience, but according to the Git vs > Hg comparison site you linked to earlier converting from CVS to Git > was painful and it seems that going from CVS to Hg is perhaps less > painful. > > Anyway, since you have experience with Git, that would be a good > reason to choose Git... > > Greetings, > Edwin > > 2009/3/1 Farrukh Najmi <fa...@we... > <mailto:fa...@we...>> > > > Unfortunately, as Curtis reminded me, hg is not offered by SF. > > So the choice is between svn and git. I have used git enough to know > that it does work out of the box with a minor learning curve. I would > prefer git but like most of us I can live with svn. > > Are there other folks who would prefer to stay with svn rather than > learning git? > > Note that with IDE support for NetBeans and eclipse the learning curve > should not be that much of an issue. > > Thanks. > > Edwin Commandeur wrote: > > Hi there, > > > > I am perfectly happy with SVN, which I think would already be a > major > > improvement over CVS and would suit our needs fine, but I would also > > agree with using Hg. > > > > I have more confidence in Hg than in Git, because to my mind a VCS > > tool should just work, and not be so open ended as Git. > > > > Also, as a Java Developer I think about projects as Open JDK for > which > > they are also using Hg, so I would be interested to learn about Hg > > more than about Git. > > > > Having not used any of the distributed VCS tools, I cannot talk from > > experience, but on the Git vs Mercurial comparison it is stated that > > "migrating from Subversion/CVS to git requires a lot of work. Linus > > has made it clear that he disagrees with the fundamental ideas > behind > > Subversion/CVS" > > > > I have no idea if migrating from CVS to Mercurial is any easier, but > > that could also be a consideration to take into account. > > > > Greetings, > > Edwin > > > > > > gwt...@li... > <mailto:gwt...@li...> > > <mailto:gwt...@li... > <mailto:gwt...@li...>> > > > > 2009/3/1 Farrukh Najmi <fa...@we... > <mailto:fa...@we...> > > <mailto:fa...@we... > <mailto:fa...@we...>>> > > > > > > I have not used hg and have used git a little so can't say I have a > > strong opinion between the two DVCS tools. Here is a good blog > > comparing > > the two: > > > > <http://importantshock.wordpress.com/2008/08/07/git-vs-mercurial/> > > > > High order bit decision is whether we should do a more modern > > distributed version control system like git or hg instead of svn. > > So far > > it sounds like the opinions are in the YES camp. > > > > I can go with either hg or git. Lets see what others feel. Thanks. > > > > Aaron Novstrup wrote: > > > If you're going to switch to a DVCS, I'd recommend hg since > > AFAIK it's > > > better than git for cross-platform development. No strong > > preference, > > > though, just my two cents. > > > > > > Farrukh Najmi wrote: > > >> Dear team mates, > > >> > > >> Here is our list for the dev team to communicate. I will set us > > up on > > >> the other two lists (users, commits) shortly. > > >> > > >> I noticed that SF now offers git as a version control system > (VCS). > > >> git was created by Linus of Linux fame and is used by > projects like > > >> Linux. Its is better than svn and one of the best VCS available. > > >> > > >> What do folks think of using git instead of svn? The main > advantage > > >> svn has is one of familiarity. However git has many advanced > > features > > >> beyond svn (distributed VCS being an important one). > > >> > > >> Here is a useful resource: > > >> > > >> <http://git.or.cz/gitwiki/GitSvnComparsion> > > >> > > >> Please share your thoughts on this. Thanks. > > >> > -- Regards, Farrukh Web: http://www.wellfleetsoftware.com |
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From: Edwin C. <com...@gm...> - 2009-03-01 21:03:17
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Hi Farrukh, According to this page SF support Hg since september 2008: http://www.selenic.com/mercurial/wiki/index.cgi/MercurialOnSourceforge Also I found some documentation on how to convert a CVS repo to Hg: http://nivox.blogspot.com/2008/02/cvs-to-mercurial.html As before, I can't speak from experience, but according to the Git vs Hg comparison site you linked to earlier converting from CVS to Git was painful and it seems that going from CVS to Hg is perhaps less painful. Anyway, since you have experience with Git, that would be a good reason to choose Git... Greetings, Edwin 2009/3/1 Farrukh Najmi <fa...@we...> > > Unfortunately, as Curtis reminded me, hg is not offered by SF. > > So the choice is between svn and git. I have used git enough to know > that it does work out of the box with a minor learning curve. I would > prefer git but like most of us I can live with svn. > > Are there other folks who would prefer to stay with svn rather than > learning git? > > Note that with IDE support for NetBeans and eclipse the learning curve > should not be that much of an issue. > > Thanks. > > Edwin Commandeur wrote: > > Hi there, > > > > I am perfectly happy with SVN, which I think would already be a major > > improvement over CVS and would suit our needs fine, but I would also > > agree with using Hg. > > > > I have more confidence in Hg than in Git, because to my mind a VCS > > tool should just work, and not be so open ended as Git. > > > > Also, as a Java Developer I think about projects as Open JDK for which > > they are also using Hg, so I would be interested to learn about Hg > > more than about Git. > > > > Having not used any of the distributed VCS tools, I cannot talk from > > experience, but on the Git vs Mercurial comparison it is stated that > > "migrating from Subversion/CVS to git requires a lot of work. Linus > > has made it clear that he disagrees with the fundamental ideas behind > > Subversion/CVS" > > > > I have no idea if migrating from CVS to Mercurial is any easier, but > > that could also be a consideration to take into account. > > > > Greetings, > > Edwin > > > > > > gwt...@li... > > <mailto:gwt...@li...> > > > > 2009/3/1 Farrukh Najmi <fa...@we... > > <mailto:fa...@we...>> > > > > > > I have not used hg and have used git a little so can't say I have a > > strong opinion between the two DVCS tools. Here is a good blog > > comparing > > the two: > > > > <http://importantshock.wordpress.com/2008/08/07/git-vs-mercurial/> > > > > High order bit decision is whether we should do a more modern > > distributed version control system like git or hg instead of svn. > > So far > > it sounds like the opinions are in the YES camp. > > > > I can go with either hg or git. Lets see what others feel. Thanks. > > > > Aaron Novstrup wrote: > > > If you're going to switch to a DVCS, I'd recommend hg since > > AFAIK it's > > > better than git for cross-platform development. No strong > > preference, > > > though, just my two cents. > > > > > > Farrukh Najmi wrote: > > >> Dear team mates, > > >> > > >> Here is our list for the dev team to communicate. I will set us > > up on > > >> the other two lists (users, commits) shortly. > > >> > > >> I noticed that SF now offers git as a version control system > (VCS). > > >> git was created by Linus of Linux fame and is used by projects > like > > >> Linux. Its is better than svn and one of the best VCS available. > > >> > > >> What do folks think of using git instead of svn? The main > advantage > > >> svn has is one of familiarity. However git has many advanced > > features > > >> beyond svn (distributed VCS being an important one). > > >> > > >> Here is a useful resource: > > >> > > >> <http://git.or.cz/gitwiki/GitSvnComparsion> > > >> > > >> Please share your thoughts on this. Thanks. > > >> > > >> > > > > > > > > -- > Regards, > Farrukh > > Web: http://www.wellfleetsoftware.com > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Open Source Business Conference (OSBC), March 24-25, 2009, San Francisco, > CA > -OSBC tackles the biggest issue in open source: Open Sourcing the > Enterprise > -Strategies to boost innovation and cut costs with open source > participation > -Receive a $600 discount off the registration fee with the source code: > SFAD > http://p.sf.net/sfu/XcvMzF8H > _______________________________________________ > Gwt-openlayers-devl mailing list > Gwt...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/gwt-openlayers-devl > |
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From: Farrukh N. <fa...@we...> - 2009-03-01 14:41:10
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Unfortunately, as Curtis reminded me, hg is not offered by SF. So the choice is between svn and git. I have used git enough to know that it does work out of the box with a minor learning curve. I would prefer git but like most of us I can live with svn. Are there other folks who would prefer to stay with svn rather than learning git? Note that with IDE support for NetBeans and eclipse the learning curve should not be that much of an issue. Thanks. Edwin Commandeur wrote: > Hi there, > > I am perfectly happy with SVN, which I think would already be a major > improvement over CVS and would suit our needs fine, but I would also > agree with using Hg. > > I have more confidence in Hg than in Git, because to my mind a VCS > tool should just work, and not be so open ended as Git. > > Also, as a Java Developer I think about projects as Open JDK for which > they are also using Hg, so I would be interested to learn about Hg > more than about Git. > > Having not used any of the distributed VCS tools, I cannot talk from > experience, but on the Git vs Mercurial comparison it is stated that > "migrating from Subversion/CVS to git requires a lot of work. Linus > has made it clear that he disagrees with the fundamental ideas behind > Subversion/CVS" > > I have no idea if migrating from CVS to Mercurial is any easier, but > that could also be a consideration to take into account. > > Greetings, > Edwin > > > gwt...@li... > <mailto:gwt...@li...> > > 2009/3/1 Farrukh Najmi <fa...@we... > <mailto:fa...@we...>> > > > I have not used hg and have used git a little so can't say I have a > strong opinion between the two DVCS tools. Here is a good blog > comparing > the two: > > <http://importantshock.wordpress.com/2008/08/07/git-vs-mercurial/> > > High order bit decision is whether we should do a more modern > distributed version control system like git or hg instead of svn. > So far > it sounds like the opinions are in the YES camp. > > I can go with either hg or git. Lets see what others feel. Thanks. > > Aaron Novstrup wrote: > > If you're going to switch to a DVCS, I'd recommend hg since > AFAIK it's > > better than git for cross-platform development. No strong > preference, > > though, just my two cents. > > > > Farrukh Najmi wrote: > >> Dear team mates, > >> > >> Here is our list for the dev team to communicate. I will set us > up on > >> the other two lists (users, commits) shortly. > >> > >> I noticed that SF now offers git as a version control system (VCS). > >> git was created by Linus of Linux fame and is used by projects like > >> Linux. Its is better than svn and one of the best VCS available. > >> > >> What do folks think of using git instead of svn? The main advantage > >> svn has is one of familiarity. However git has many advanced > features > >> beyond svn (distributed VCS being an important one). > >> > >> Here is a useful resource: > >> > >> <http://git.or.cz/gitwiki/GitSvnComparsion> > >> > >> Please share your thoughts on this. Thanks. > >> > >> > > > -- Regards, Farrukh Web: http://www.wellfleetsoftware.com |
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From: Edwin C. <com...@gm...> - 2009-03-01 10:23:56
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Hi there, I am perfectly happy with SVN, which I think would already be a major improvement over CVS and would suit our needs fine, but I would also agree with using Hg. I have more confidence in Hg than in Git, because to my mind a VCS tool should just work, and not be so open ended as Git. Also, as a Java Developer I think about projects as Open JDK for which they are also using Hg, so I would be interested to learn about Hg more than about Git. Having not used any of the distributed VCS tools, I cannot talk from experience, but on the Git vs Mercurial comparison it is stated that "migrating from Subversion/CVS to git requires a lot of work. Linus has made it clear that he disagrees with the fundamental ideas behind Subversion/CVS" I have no idea if migrating from CVS to Mercurial is any easier, but that could also be a consideration to take into account. Greetings, Edwin gwt...@li... 2009/3/1 Farrukh Najmi <fa...@we...> > > I have not used hg and have used git a little so can't say I have a > strong opinion between the two DVCS tools. Here is a good blog comparing > the two: > > <http://importantshock.wordpress.com/2008/08/07/git-vs-mercurial/> > > High order bit decision is whether we should do a more modern > distributed version control system like git or hg instead of svn. So far > it sounds like the opinions are in the YES camp. > > I can go with either hg or git. Lets see what others feel. Thanks. > > Aaron Novstrup wrote: > > If you're going to switch to a DVCS, I'd recommend hg since AFAIK it's > > better than git for cross-platform development. No strong preference, > > though, just my two cents. > > > > Farrukh Najmi wrote: > >> Dear team mates, > >> > >> Here is our list for the dev team to communicate. I will set us up on > >> the other two lists (users, commits) shortly. > >> > >> I noticed that SF now offers git as a version control system (VCS). > >> git was created by Linus of Linux fame and is used by projects like > >> Linux. Its is better than svn and one of the best VCS available. > >> > >> What do folks think of using git instead of svn? The main advantage > >> svn has is one of familiarity. However git has many advanced features > >> beyond svn (distributed VCS being an important one). > >> > >> Here is a useful resource: > >> > >> <http://git.or.cz/gitwiki/GitSvnComparsion> > >> > >> Please share your thoughts on this. Thanks. > >> > >> > > > > > -- > Regards, > Farrukh > > Web: http://www.wellfleetsoftware.com > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Open Source Business Conference (OSBC), March 24-25, 2009, San Francisco, > CA > -OSBC tackles the biggest issue in open source: Open Sourcing the > Enterprise > -Strategies to boost innovation and cut costs with open source > participation > -Receive a $600 discount off the registration fee with the source code: > SFAD > http://p.sf.net/sfu/XcvMzF8H > _______________________________________________ > Gwt-openlayers-devl mailing list > Gwt...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/gwt-openlayers-devl > |
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From: Farrukh N. <fa...@we...> - 2009-03-01 01:19:04
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I have added an FAQ entry here on this question: <http://gwt-openlayers.wiki.sourceforge.net/FAQ> If any one has an answer please add it to wiki page. Thanks. -- Regards, Farrukh Web: http://www.wellfleetsoftware.com |
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From: Farrukh N. <fa...@we...> - 2009-03-01 00:57:44
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I have not used hg and have used git a little so can't say I have a strong opinion between the two DVCS tools. Here is a good blog comparing the two: <http://importantshock.wordpress.com/2008/08/07/git-vs-mercurial/> High order bit decision is whether we should do a more modern distributed version control system like git or hg instead of svn. So far it sounds like the opinions are in the YES camp. I can go with either hg or git. Lets see what others feel. Thanks. Aaron Novstrup wrote: > If you're going to switch to a DVCS, I'd recommend hg since AFAIK it's > better than git for cross-platform development. No strong preference, > though, just my two cents. > > Farrukh Najmi wrote: >> Dear team mates, >> >> Here is our list for the dev team to communicate. I will set us up on >> the other two lists (users, commits) shortly. >> >> I noticed that SF now offers git as a version control system (VCS). >> git was created by Linus of Linux fame and is used by projects like >> Linux. Its is better than svn and one of the best VCS available. >> >> What do folks think of using git instead of svn? The main advantage >> svn has is one of familiarity. However git has many advanced features >> beyond svn (distributed VCS being an important one). >> >> Here is a useful resource: >> >> <http://git.or.cz/gitwiki/GitSvnComparsion> >> >> Please share your thoughts on this. Thanks. >> >> > -- Regards, Farrukh Web: http://www.wellfleetsoftware.com |
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From: Curtis J. <cur...@gm...> - 2009-02-28 20:16:47
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I'm fine with either git or svn. On Sat, Feb 28, 2009 at 8:07 AM, Farrukh Najmi <fa...@we...> wrote: > Dear team mates, > > Here is our list for the dev team to communicate. I will set us up on > the other two lists (users, commits) shortly. > > I noticed that SF now offers git as a version control system (VCS). git > was created by Linus of Linux fame and is used by projects like Linux. > Its is better than svn and one of the best VCS available. > > What do folks think of using git instead of svn? The main advantage svn > has is one of familiarity. However git has many advanced features beyond > svn (distributed VCS being an important one). > > Here is a useful resource: > > <http://git.or.cz/gitwiki/GitSvnComparsion> > > Please share your thoughts on this. Thanks. > > -- > Regards, > Farrukh > > Web: http://www.wellfleetsoftware.com > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Open Source Business Conference (OSBC), March 24-25, 2009, San Francisco, CA > -OSBC tackles the biggest issue in open source: Open Sourcing the Enterprise > -Strategies to boost innovation and cut costs with open source participation > -Receive a $600 discount off the registration fee with the source code: SFAD > http://p.sf.net/sfu/XcvMzF8H > _______________________________________________ > Gwt-openlayers-devl mailing list > Gwt...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/gwt-openlayers-devl > |
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From: Farrukh N. <fa...@we...> - 2009-02-28 16:15:31
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Checking if message sent from my work email(and not sf email) works. Please ignore. -- Regards, Farrukh Web: http://www.wellfleetsoftware.com |
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From: Farrukh N. <fa...@we...> - 2009-02-28 16:07:40
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Dear team mates, Here is our list for the dev team to communicate. I will set us up on the other two lists (users, commits) shortly. I noticed that SF now offers git as a version control system (VCS). git was created by Linus of Linux fame and is used by projects like Linux. Its is better than svn and one of the best VCS available. What do folks think of using git instead of svn? The main advantage svn has is one of familiarity. However git has many advanced features beyond svn (distributed VCS being an important one). Here is a useful resource: <http://git.or.cz/gitwiki/GitSvnComparsion> Please share your thoughts on this. Thanks. -- Regards, Farrukh Web: http://www.wellfleetsoftware.com |
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