From: Poliana M. <pol...@gm...> - 2005-02-11 12:33:41
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Hello all, Where can find the script parseBlastFilesForSimilarity.pl?? I'm trying to run LoadBlastSimFast... Poliana |
From: Poliana M. <pol...@gm...> - 2005-02-11 12:54:43
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Hello all, Where can find the script parseBlastFilesForSimilarity.pl?? I'm trying to run LoadBlastSimFast... Poliana |
From: Steve F. <sfi...@pc...> - 2005-02-11 13:54:29
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poliana- oops, the usage statement for LoadBlastSimFast is out of date. it should instruct you to use the blastSimilarity command. LoadBlastSimFast makes a big assumption, that the subject and query sequences are in GUS, and their def. lines have GUS primary keys. Are your sequences already loaded into GUS? steve Poliana Mateus wrote: >Hello all, > >Where can find the script parseBlastFilesForSimilarity.pl?? >I'm trying to run LoadBlastSimFast... > >Poliana > > >------------------------------------------------------- >SF email is sponsored by - The IT Product Guide >Read honest & candid reviews on hundreds of IT Products from real users. >Discover which products truly live up to the hype. Start reading now. >http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_id=6595&alloc_id=14396&op=click >_______________________________________________ >Gusdev-gusdev mailing list >Gus...@li... >https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/gusdev-gusdev > > |
From: Alberto D. <da...@io...> - 2005-02-11 14:52:02
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Hi Steve, On Fri, 2005-02-11 at 08:56 -0500, Steve Fischer wrote: > poliana- > > oops, the usage statement for LoadBlastSimFast is out of date. it > should instruct you to use the blastSimilarity command. > > LoadBlastSimFast makes a big assumption, that the subject and query > sequences are in GUS, and their def. lines have GUS primary keys. > > Are your sequences already loaded into GUS? They are not, there would be any howto/tips for that plugin ? We will certainly need a plugin to load "Interpro" and "ORF finding" results into GUS... If they are not available, then maybe we will have to write them ... Cheers, Alberto > > steve > > > > Poliana Mateus wrote: > > >Hello all, > > > >Where can find the script parseBlastFilesForSimilarity.pl?? > >I'm trying to run LoadBlastSimFast... > > > >Poliana > > > > |
From: Steve F. <sfi...@pc...> - 2005-02-11 15:05:00
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what are you planning on blasting? steve Alberto Davila wrote: >Hi Steve, > >On Fri, 2005-02-11 at 08:56 -0500, Steve Fischer wrote: > > >>poliana- >> >>oops, the usage statement for LoadBlastSimFast is out of date. it >>should instruct you to use the blastSimilarity command. >> >>LoadBlastSimFast makes a big assumption, that the subject and query >>sequences are in GUS, and their def. lines have GUS primary keys. >> >>Are your sequences already loaded into GUS? >> >> > >They are not, there would be any howto/tips for that plugin ? We will >certainly need a plugin to load "Interpro" and "ORF finding" results >into GUS... If they are not available, then maybe we will have to write >them ... > >Cheers, Alberto > > > >>steve >> >> >> >>Poliana Mateus wrote: >> >> >> >>>Hello all, >>> >>>Where can find the script parseBlastFilesForSimilarity.pl?? >>>I'm trying to run LoadBlastSimFast... >>> >>>Poliana >>> >>> >>> >>> |
From: Y. T. G. <yon...@pc...> - 2005-02-11 15:08:33
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A couple more comments. The"big assumption" (also applies to LoadBLATAlignments plugin) might seem restrictive and anti-intuitive (thus easily assumed otherwise) at first, and impose more work if you just want to experiment with your datasets (which could be heterogenious). But think about it, this is necessay safeguard to protect data integrity in GUS. This is dictated by the foreign key constraints (query sequence and subject sequence) on the similarity table. In reality, this forces you to think carefully about your datasets (e.g. how to organize if have gene trap tags from half a dozen sources, and you want to align them all to the genome). -Thomas On Fri, 11 Feb 2005, Steve Fischer wrote: > poliana- > > oops, the usage statement for LoadBlastSimFast is out of date. it should > instruct you to use the blastSimilarity command. > > LoadBlastSimFast makes a big assumption, that the subject and query sequences > are in GUS, and their def. lines have GUS primary keys. > Are your sequences already loaded into GUS? > > steve > > > > Poliana Mateus wrote: > >> Hello all, >> >> Where can find the script parseBlastFilesForSimilarity.pl?? >> I'm trying to run LoadBlastSimFast... >> >> Poliana >> >> >> ------------------------------------------------------- >> SF email is sponsored by - The IT Product Guide >> Read honest & candid reviews on hundreds of IT Products from real users. >> Discover which products truly live up to the hype. Start reading now. >> http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_id=6595&alloc_id=14396&op=click >> _______________________________________________ >> Gusdev-gusdev mailing list >> Gus...@li... >> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/gusdev-gusdev >> > > > ------------------------------------------------------- > SF email is sponsored by - The IT Product Guide > Read honest & candid reviews on hundreds of IT Products from real users. > Discover which products truly live up to the hype. Start reading now. > http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_id=6595&alloc_id=14396&op=click > _______________________________________________ > Gusdev-gusdev mailing list > Gus...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/gusdev-gusdev > |
From: Alberto D. <da...@io...> - 2005-02-11 15:35:08
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Query: Either sequences from genbank (genbank format) or sequences generated in the lab (fasta format) Blastable databases (all are formatted databases from NCBI): NR NT EST Alberto On Fri, 2005-02-11 at 10:34 -0500, Steve Fischer wrote: > for the blast, what are the query sequences and what are the blastable > databases? > > steve > > Alberto Davila wrote: > > >Basically we will use sequences (loaded into GUS with the GBParser) for > >NCBI Blast (Blastx, Blastp and TBlastX), the same sequences will be also > >used for Interpro analyses. Results of both (Blast and Interpro) will be > >loaded into GUS. We will parse specific things from the Blast results, I > >would say: > > > > `Gi` > > `Accession` > > `Description` > > `E_value` > > `Score` > > `Length` > > `Frame_Query` > > `Frame_Hit` > > `Identical` > > `Hsp_Frac_Identical` > > `Conserved` > > `Hsp_Frac_Conserved` > > `Query_Start` > > `Query_End` > > `Hit_Start` > > `Hit_End` > > `Hsp_Align` > > `database_letters` > > `database_entries` > > > >We already have a Bioperl parser for that (specific for another system: > >GARSA) that could be adapted to GUS, problem being we are not sure what > >tables should be used to store those data in GUS. > > > >Cheers, Alberto > > > > > >On Fri, 2005-02-11 at 10:06 -0500, Steve Fischer wrote: > > > > > >>what are you planning on blasting? > >> > >>steve > >> > >>Alberto Davila wrote: > >> > >> > >> > >>>Hi Steve, > >>> > >>>On Fri, 2005-02-11 at 08:56 -0500, Steve Fischer wrote: > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>>>poliana- > >>>> > >>>>oops, the usage statement for LoadBlastSimFast is out of date. it > >>>>should instruct you to use the blastSimilarity command. > >>>> > >>>>LoadBlastSimFast makes a big assumption, that the subject and query > >>>>sequences are in GUS, and their def. lines have GUS primary keys. > >>>> > >>>>Are your sequences already loaded into GUS? > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>They are not, there would be any howto/tips for that plugin ? We will > >>>certainly need a plugin to load "Interpro" and "ORF finding" results > >>>into GUS... If they are not available, then maybe we will have to write > >>>them ... > >>> > >>>Cheers, Alberto > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>>>steve > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>>Poliana Mateus wrote: > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>>>Hello all, > >>>>> > >>>>>Where can find the script parseBlastFilesForSimilarity.pl?? > >>>>>I'm trying to run LoadBlastSimFast... > >>>>> > >>>>>Poliana |
From: Steve F. <sfi...@pc...> - 2005-02-11 15:41:33
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(what is NT?) which of these (genbank, your fasta, NRDB, NT, EST) have you loaded into gus? steve Alberto Davila wrote: >Query: > >Either sequences from genbank (genbank format) or sequences generated in >the lab (fasta format) > >Blastable databases (all are formatted databases from NCBI): > >NR >NT >EST > >Alberto > >On Fri, 2005-02-11 at 10:34 -0500, Steve Fischer wrote: > > >>for the blast, what are the query sequences and what are the blastable >>databases? >> >>steve >> >>Alberto Davila wrote: >> >> >> >>>Basically we will use sequences (loaded into GUS with the GBParser) for >>>NCBI Blast (Blastx, Blastp and TBlastX), the same sequences will be also >>>used for Interpro analyses. Results of both (Blast and Interpro) will be >>>loaded into GUS. We will parse specific things from the Blast results, I >>>would say: >>> >>> `Gi` >>> `Accession` >>> `Description` >>> `E_value` >>> `Score` >>> `Length` >>> `Frame_Query` >>> `Frame_Hit` >>> `Identical` >>> `Hsp_Frac_Identical` >>> `Conserved` >>> `Hsp_Frac_Conserved` >>> `Query_Start` >>> `Query_End` >>> `Hit_Start` >>> `Hit_End` >>> `Hsp_Align` >>> `database_letters` >>> `database_entries` >>> >>>We already have a Bioperl parser for that (specific for another system: >>>GARSA) that could be adapted to GUS, problem being we are not sure what >>>tables should be used to store those data in GUS. >>> >>>Cheers, Alberto >>> >>> >>>On Fri, 2005-02-11 at 10:06 -0500, Steve Fischer wrote: >>> >>> >>> >>> >>>>what are you planning on blasting? >>>> >>>>steve >>>> >>>>Alberto Davila wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>>Hi Steve, >>>>> >>>>>On Fri, 2005-02-11 at 08:56 -0500, Steve Fischer wrote: >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>>poliana- >>>>>> >>>>>>oops, the usage statement for LoadBlastSimFast is out of date. it >>>>>>should instruct you to use the blastSimilarity command. >>>>>> >>>>>>LoadBlastSimFast makes a big assumption, that the subject and query >>>>>>sequences are in GUS, and their def. lines have GUS primary keys. >>>>>> >>>>>>Are your sequences already loaded into GUS? >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>They are not, there would be any howto/tips for that plugin ? We will >>>>>certainly need a plugin to load "Interpro" and "ORF finding" results >>>>>into GUS... If they are not available, then maybe we will have to write >>>>>them ... >>>>> >>>>>Cheers, Alberto >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>>steve >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>Poliana Mateus wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>>Hello all, >>>>>>> >>>>>>>Where can find the script parseBlastFilesForSimilarity.pl?? >>>>>>>I'm trying to run LoadBlastSimFast... >>>>>>> >>>>>>>Poliana >>>>>>> >>>>>>> > > > |
From: Alberto D. <da...@io...> - 2005-02-11 15:49:00
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All the blastable databases I mentioned are standard databases from NCBI (ftp://ftp.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/blast/db/blastdb.txt): NT = nucleotides ~30000 entries from genbank (genbank format) are loaded into GUS now. Not sure about your "NRDB", I know NR from NCBI that is a collection of aminoacid entries, could it be the same ? Alberto On Fri, 2005-02-11 at 10:43 -0500, Steve Fischer wrote: > (what is NT?) > > which of these (genbank, your fasta, NRDB, NT, EST) have you loaded into > gus? > > steve > > Alberto Davila wrote: > > >Query: > > > >Either sequences from genbank (genbank format) or sequences generated in > >the lab (fasta format) > > > >Blastable databases (all are formatted databases from NCBI): > > > >NR > >NT > >EST > > > >Alberto > > > >On Fri, 2005-02-11 at 10:34 -0500, Steve Fischer wrote: > > > > > >>for the blast, what are the query sequences and what are the blastable > >>databases? > >> > >>steve > >> > >>Alberto Davila wrote: > >> > >> > >> > >>>Basically we will use sequences (loaded into GUS with the GBParser) for > >>>NCBI Blast (Blastx, Blastp and TBlastX), the same sequences will be also > >>>used for Interpro analyses. Results of both (Blast and Interpro) will be > >>>loaded into GUS. We will parse specific things from the Blast results, I > >>>would say: > >>> > >>> `Gi` > >>> `Accession` > >>> `Description` > >>> `E_value` > >>> `Score` > >>> `Length` > >>> `Frame_Query` > >>> `Frame_Hit` > >>> `Identical` > >>> `Hsp_Frac_Identical` > >>> `Conserved` > >>> `Hsp_Frac_Conserved` > >>> `Query_Start` > >>> `Query_End` > >>> `Hit_Start` > >>> `Hit_End` > >>> `Hsp_Align` > >>> `database_letters` > >>> `database_entries` > >>> > >>>We already have a Bioperl parser for that (specific for another system: > >>>GARSA) that could be adapted to GUS, problem being we are not sure what > >>>tables should be used to store those data in GUS. > >>> > >>>Cheers, Alberto > >>> > >>> > >>>On Fri, 2005-02-11 at 10:06 -0500, Steve Fischer wrote: > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>>>what are you planning on blasting? > >>>> > >>>>steve > >>>> > >>>>Alberto Davila wrote: > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>>>Hi Steve, > >>>>> > >>>>>On Fri, 2005-02-11 at 08:56 -0500, Steve Fischer wrote: > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>>>poliana- > >>>>>> > >>>>>>oops, the usage statement for LoadBlastSimFast is out of date. it > >>>>>>should instruct you to use the blastSimilarity command. > >>>>>> > >>>>>>LoadBlastSimFast makes a big assumption, that the subject and query > >>>>>>sequences are in GUS, and their def. lines have GUS primary keys. > >>>>>> > >>>>>>Are your sequences already loaded into GUS? > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>They are not, there would be any howto/tips for that plugin ? We will > >>>>>certainly need a plugin to load "Interpro" and "ORF finding" results > >>>>>into GUS... If they are not available, then maybe we will have to write > >>>>>them ... > >>>>> > >>>>>Cheers, Alberto > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>>>steve > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>>Poliana Mateus wrote: > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>>>Hello all, > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>>Where can find the script parseBlastFilesForSimilarity.pl?? > >>>>>>>I'm trying to run LoadBlastSimFast... > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>>Poliana |
From: Steve F. <sfi...@pc...> - 2005-02-11 15:54:54
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ok. NR = NRDB the way we have used gus with similarities is that both the query and subject are loaded into gus. As thomas explained, the similarity table captures similarity between sequences that are in gus. our approach has always been to just load (warehouse) the entire subject database (NR, EST) that we are blasting against. the current plugins and blastSimilarity are set up for this. obviously, this takes a lot of disk space. two major efficiencies that we don't currently have plugins for would be: 1. to only store in gus a *reference* to the external sequence (ie, don't store the actgs). 2. only store in gus the sequences that actually have similarities steve Alberto Davila wrote: >All the blastable databases I mentioned are standard databases from NCBI >(ftp://ftp.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/blast/db/blastdb.txt): > >NT = nucleotides > >~30000 entries from genbank (genbank format) are loaded into GUS now. > >Not sure about your "NRDB", I know NR from NCBI that is a collection of >aminoacid entries, could it be the same ? > >Alberto > >On Fri, 2005-02-11 at 10:43 -0500, Steve Fischer wrote: > > >>(what is NT?) >> >>which of these (genbank, your fasta, NRDB, NT, EST) have you loaded into >>gus? >> >>steve >> >>Alberto Davila wrote: >> >> >> >>>Query: >>> >>>Either sequences from genbank (genbank format) or sequences generated in >>>the lab (fasta format) >>> >>>Blastable databases (all are formatted databases from NCBI): >>> >>>NR >>>NT >>>EST >>> >>>Alberto >>> >>>On Fri, 2005-02-11 at 10:34 -0500, Steve Fischer wrote: >>> >>> >>> >>> >>>>for the blast, what are the query sequences and what are the blastable >>>>databases? >>>> >>>>steve >>>> >>>>Alberto Davila wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>>Basically we will use sequences (loaded into GUS with the GBParser) for >>>>>NCBI Blast (Blastx, Blastp and TBlastX), the same sequences will be also >>>>>used for Interpro analyses. Results of both (Blast and Interpro) will be >>>>>loaded into GUS. We will parse specific things from the Blast results, I >>>>>would say: >>>>> >>>>>`Gi` >>>>>`Accession` >>>>>`Description` >>>>>`E_value` >>>>>`Score` >>>>>`Length` >>>>>`Frame_Query` >>>>>`Frame_Hit` >>>>>`Identical` >>>>>`Hsp_Frac_Identical` >>>>>`Conserved` >>>>>`Hsp_Frac_Conserved` >>>>>`Query_Start` >>>>>`Query_End` >>>>>`Hit_Start` >>>>>`Hit_End` >>>>>`Hsp_Align` >>>>>`database_letters` >>>>>`database_entries` >>>>> >>>>>We already have a Bioperl parser for that (specific for another system: >>>>>GARSA) that could be adapted to GUS, problem being we are not sure what >>>>>tables should be used to store those data in GUS. >>>>> >>>>>Cheers, Alberto >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>On Fri, 2005-02-11 at 10:06 -0500, Steve Fischer wrote: >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>>what are you planning on blasting? >>>>>> >>>>>>steve >>>>>> >>>>>>Alberto Davila wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>>Hi Steve, >>>>>>> >>>>>>>On Fri, 2005-02-11 at 08:56 -0500, Steve Fischer wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>>poliana- >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>oops, the usage statement for LoadBlastSimFast is out of date. it >>>>>>>>should instruct you to use the blastSimilarity command. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>LoadBlastSimFast makes a big assumption, that the subject and query >>>>>>>>sequences are in GUS, and their def. lines have GUS primary keys. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>Are your sequences already loaded into GUS? >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>They are not, there would be any howto/tips for that plugin ? We will >>>>>>>certainly need a plugin to load "Interpro" and "ORF finding" results >>>>>>>into GUS... If they are not available, then maybe we will have to write >>>>>>>them ... >>>>>>> >>>>>>>Cheers, Alberto >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>>steve >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>Poliana Mateus wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>Hello all, >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>Where can find the script parseBlastFilesForSimilarity.pl?? >>>>>>>>>I'm trying to run LoadBlastSimFast... >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>Poliana >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> > > > |
From: Alberto D. <da...@io...> - 2005-02-11 17:36:17
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Hey Steve, Thomas, Thanks a lot for the tips, really helpful.. now, few more questions: > ok. NR = NRDB > > the way we have used gus with similarities is that both the query and > subject are loaded into gus. As thomas explained, the similarity table > captures similarity between sequences that are in gus. > > our approach has always been to just load (warehouse) the entire subject > database (NR, EST) that we are blasting against. > > the current plugins and blastSimilarity are set up for this. > > obviously, this takes a lot of disk space. two major efficiencies that > we don't currently have plugins for would be: > 1. to only store in gus a *reference* to the external sequence (ie, > don't store the actgs). > 2. only store in gus the sequences that actually have similarities Option 2 sound better for us, since we will be blasting against several databases (> 10GB databases) What about the plugins to load Interpro and "gene finder" (glimmer, etc) results ? Is there any at all ? Cheers, Alberto > > steve > > Alberto Davila wrote: > > >All the blastable databases I mentioned are standard databases from NCBI > >(ftp://ftp.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/blast/db/blastdb.txt): > > > >NT = nucleotides > > > >~30000 entries from genbank (genbank format) are loaded into GUS now. > > > >Not sure about your "NRDB", I know NR from NCBI that is a collection of > >aminoacid entries, could it be the same ? > > > >Alberto > > > >On Fri, 2005-02-11 at 10:43 -0500, Steve Fischer wrote: > > > > > >>(what is NT?) > >> > >>which of these (genbank, your fasta, NRDB, NT, EST) have you loaded into > >>gus? > >> > >>steve > >> > >>Alberto Davila wrote: > >> > >> > >> > >>>Query: > >>> > >>>Either sequences from genbank (genbank format) or sequences generated in > >>>the lab (fasta format) > >>> > >>>Blastable databases (all are formatted databases from NCBI): > >>> > >>>NR > >>>NT > >>>EST > >>> > >>>Alberto > >>> > >>>On Fri, 2005-02-11 at 10:34 -0500, Steve Fischer wrote: > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>>>for the blast, what are the query sequences and what are the blastable > >>>>databases? > >>>> > >>>>steve > >>>> > >>>>Alberto Davila wrote: > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>>>Basically we will use sequences (loaded into GUS with the GBParser) for > >>>>>NCBI Blast (Blastx, Blastp and TBlastX), the same sequences will be also > >>>>>used for Interpro analyses. Results of both (Blast and Interpro) will be > >>>>>loaded into GUS. We will parse specific things from the Blast results, I > >>>>>would say: > >>>>> > >>>>>`Gi` > >>>>>`Accession` > >>>>>`Description` > >>>>>`E_value` > >>>>>`Score` > >>>>>`Length` > >>>>>`Frame_Query` > >>>>>`Frame_Hit` > >>>>>`Identical` > >>>>>`Hsp_Frac_Identical` > >>>>>`Conserved` > >>>>>`Hsp_Frac_Conserved` > >>>>>`Query_Start` > >>>>>`Query_End` > >>>>>`Hit_Start` > >>>>>`Hit_End` > >>>>>`Hsp_Align` > >>>>>`database_letters` > >>>>>`database_entries` > >>>>> > >>>>>We already have a Bioperl parser for that (specific for another system: > >>>>>GARSA) that could be adapted to GUS, problem being we are not sure what > >>>>>tables should be used to store those data in GUS. > >>>>> > >>>>>Cheers, Alberto > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>>On Fri, 2005-02-11 at 10:06 -0500, Steve Fischer wrote: > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>>>what are you planning on blasting? > >>>>>> > >>>>>>steve > >>>>>> > >>>>>>Alberto Davila wrote: > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>>>Hi Steve, > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>>On Fri, 2005-02-11 at 08:56 -0500, Steve Fischer wrote: > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>poliana- > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>oops, the usage statement for LoadBlastSimFast is out of date. it > >>>>>>>>should instruct you to use the blastSimilarity command. > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>LoadBlastSimFast makes a big assumption, that the subject and query > >>>>>>>>sequences are in GUS, and their def. lines have GUS primary keys. > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>Are your sequences already loaded into GUS? > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>They are not, there would be any howto/tips for that plugin ? We will > >>>>>>>certainly need a plugin to load "Interpro" and "ORF finding" results > >>>>>>>into GUS... If they are not available, then maybe we will have to write > >>>>>>>them ... > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>>Cheers, Alberto > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>steve > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>Poliana Mateus wrote: > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>Hello all, > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>Where can find the script parseBlastFilesForSimilarity.pl?? > >>>>>>>>>I'm trying to run LoadBlastSimFast... > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>Poliana > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> > > > > > > |
From: Steve F. <sfi...@pc...> - 2005-02-11 18:10:16
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alberto- we've never loaded interpro, so there isn't a plugin. i believe plasmodb has loaded glimmer results, though i'm not sure. i have asked a plasmodb developer to answer that question. steve Alberto Davila wrote: >Hey Steve, Thomas, > >Thanks a lot for the tips, really helpful.. now, few more questions: > > > >>ok. NR = NRDB >> >>the way we have used gus with similarities is that both the query and >>subject are loaded into gus. As thomas explained, the similarity table >>captures similarity between sequences that are in gus. >> >>our approach has always been to just load (warehouse) the entire subject >>database (NR, EST) that we are blasting against. >> >>the current plugins and blastSimilarity are set up for this. >> >>obviously, this takes a lot of disk space. two major efficiencies that >>we don't currently have plugins for would be: >> 1. to only store in gus a *reference* to the external sequence (ie, >>don't store the actgs). >> 2. only store in gus the sequences that actually have similarities >> >> > >Option 2 sound better for us, since we will be blasting against several >databases (> 10GB databases) > >What about the plugins to load Interpro and "gene finder" (glimmer, etc) >results ? Is there any at all ? > >Cheers, Alberto > > > >>steve >> >>Alberto Davila wrote: >> >> >> >>>All the blastable databases I mentioned are standard databases from NCBI >>>(ftp://ftp.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/blast/db/blastdb.txt): >>> >>>NT = nucleotides >>> >>>~30000 entries from genbank (genbank format) are loaded into GUS now. >>> >>>Not sure about your "NRDB", I know NR from NCBI that is a collection of >>>aminoacid entries, could it be the same ? >>> >>>Alberto >>> >>>On Fri, 2005-02-11 at 10:43 -0500, Steve Fischer wrote: >>> >>> >>> >>> >>>>(what is NT?) >>>> >>>>which of these (genbank, your fasta, NRDB, NT, EST) have you loaded into >>>>gus? >>>> >>>>steve >>>> >>>>Alberto Davila wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>>Query: >>>>> >>>>>Either sequences from genbank (genbank format) or sequences generated in >>>>>the lab (fasta format) >>>>> >>>>>Blastable databases (all are formatted databases from NCBI): >>>>> >>>>>NR >>>>>NT >>>>>EST >>>>> >>>>>Alberto >>>>> >>>>>On Fri, 2005-02-11 at 10:34 -0500, Steve Fischer wrote: >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>>for the blast, what are the query sequences and what are the blastable >>>>>>databases? >>>>>> >>>>>>steve >>>>>> >>>>>>Alberto Davila wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>>Basically we will use sequences (loaded into GUS with the GBParser) for >>>>>>>NCBI Blast (Blastx, Blastp and TBlastX), the same sequences will be also >>>>>>>used for Interpro analyses. Results of both (Blast and Interpro) will be >>>>>>>loaded into GUS. We will parse specific things from the Blast results, I >>>>>>>would say: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>`Gi` >>>>>>>`Accession` >>>>>>>`Description` >>>>>>>`E_value` >>>>>>>`Score` >>>>>>>`Length` >>>>>>>`Frame_Query` >>>>>>>`Frame_Hit` >>>>>>>`Identical` >>>>>>>`Hsp_Frac_Identical` >>>>>>>`Conserved` >>>>>>>`Hsp_Frac_Conserved` >>>>>>>`Query_Start` >>>>>>>`Query_End` >>>>>>>`Hit_Start` >>>>>>>`Hit_End` >>>>>>>`Hsp_Align` >>>>>>>`database_letters` >>>>>>>`database_entries` >>>>>>> >>>>>>>We already have a Bioperl parser for that (specific for another system: >>>>>>>GARSA) that could be adapted to GUS, problem being we are not sure what >>>>>>>tables should be used to store those data in GUS. >>>>>>> >>>>>>>Cheers, Alberto >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>On Fri, 2005-02-11 at 10:06 -0500, Steve Fischer wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>>what are you planning on blasting? >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>steve >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>Alberto Davila wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>Hi Steve, >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>On Fri, 2005-02-11 at 08:56 -0500, Steve Fischer wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>poliana- >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>oops, the usage statement for LoadBlastSimFast is out of date. it >>>>>>>>>>should instruct you to use the blastSimilarity command. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>LoadBlastSimFast makes a big assumption, that the subject and query >>>>>>>>>>sequences are in GUS, and their def. lines have GUS primary keys. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>Are your sequences already loaded into GUS? >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>They are not, there would be any howto/tips for that plugin ? We will >>>>>>>>>certainly need a plugin to load "Interpro" and "ORF finding" results >>>>>>>>>into GUS... If they are not available, then maybe we will have to write >>>>>>>>>them ... >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>Cheers, Alberto >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>steve >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>Poliana Mateus wrote: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>Hello all, >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>Where can find the script parseBlastFilesForSimilarity.pl?? >>>>>>>>>>>I'm trying to run LoadBlastSimFast... >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>Poliana >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>> >>> >>> >>> |
From: Y. T. G. <yon...@pc...> - 2005-02-11 18:21:55
|
I was going to give the same answer steve gave for interpro and gene finding results. For loading sequences into GUS, the dillema with option 2 is: how do you know which sequence to load when you load (which is before you actually have the similarity result)? One solution would be to initially load complete dataset(s) but delete those without similarity after loading similarity results. -Thomas On Fri, 11 Feb 2005, Steve Fischer wrote: > alberto- > > we've never loaded interpro, so there isn't a plugin. > i believe plasmodb has loaded glimmer results, though i'm not sure. i have > asked a plasmodb developer to answer that question. > > steve > > Alberto Davila wrote: > >> Hey Steve, Thomas, >> >> Thanks a lot for the tips, really helpful.. now, few more questions: >> >> >>> ok. NR = NRDB >>> >>> the way we have used gus with similarities is that both the query and >>> subject are loaded into gus. As thomas explained, the similarity table >>> captures similarity between sequences that are in gus. >>> our approach has always been to just load (warehouse) the entire subject >>> database (NR, EST) that we are blasting against. >>> >>> the current plugins and blastSimilarity are set up for this. >>> >>> obviously, this takes a lot of disk space. two major efficiencies that we >>> don't currently have plugins for would be: >>> 1. to only store in gus a *reference* to the external sequence (ie, don't >>> store the actgs). >>> 2. only store in gus the sequences that actually have similarities >>> >> >> Option 2 sound better for us, since we will be blasting against several >> databases (> 10GB databases) >> >> What about the plugins to load Interpro and "gene finder" (glimmer, etc) >> results ? Is there any at all ? >> >> Cheers, Alberto >> >> >>> steve >>> >>> Alberto Davila wrote: >>> >>> >>>> All the blastable databases I mentioned are standard databases from NCBI >>>> (ftp://ftp.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/blast/db/blastdb.txt): >>>> >>>> NT = nucleotides >>>> >>>> ~30000 entries from genbank (genbank format) are loaded into GUS now. >>>> >>>> Not sure about your "NRDB", I know NR from NCBI that is a collection of >>>> aminoacid entries, could it be the same ? >>>> >>>> Alberto >>>> >>>> On Fri, 2005-02-11 at 10:43 -0500, Steve Fischer wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>> (what is NT?) >>>>> >>>>> which of these (genbank, your fasta, NRDB, NT, EST) have you loaded into >>>>> gus? >>>>> >>>>> steve >>>>> >>>>> Alberto Davila wrote: >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> Query: >>>>>> >>>>>> Either sequences from genbank (genbank format) or sequences generated >>>>>> in >>>>>> the lab (fasta format) >>>>>> >>>>>> Blastable databases (all are formatted databases from NCBI): >>>>>> >>>>>> NR >>>>>> NT >>>>>> EST >>>>>> >>>>>> Alberto >>>>>> >>>>>> On Fri, 2005-02-11 at 10:34 -0500, Steve Fischer wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>> for the blast, what are the query sequences and what are the blastable >>>>>>> databases? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> steve >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Alberto Davila wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Basically we will use sequences (loaded into GUS with the GBParser) >>>>>>>> for >>>>>>>> NCBI Blast (Blastx, Blastp and TBlastX), the same sequences will be >>>>>>>> also >>>>>>>> used for Interpro analyses. Results of both (Blast and Interpro) will >>>>>>>> be >>>>>>>> loaded into GUS. We will parse specific things from the Blast >>>>>>>> results, I >>>>>>>> would say: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> `Gi` `Accession` `Description` `E_value` `Score` `Length` >>>>>>>> `Frame_Query` `Frame_Hit` `Identical` `Hsp_Frac_Identical` >>>>>>>> `Conserved` `Hsp_Frac_Conserved` >>>>>>>> `Query_Start` >>>>>>>> `Query_End` `Hit_Start` `Hit_End` `Hsp_Align` `database_letters` >>>>>>>> `database_entries` >>>>>>>> We already have a Bioperl parser for that (specific for another >>>>>>>> system: >>>>>>>> GARSA) that could be adapted to GUS, problem being we are not sure >>>>>>>> what >>>>>>>> tables should be used to store those data in GUS. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Cheers, Alberto >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Fri, 2005-02-11 at 10:06 -0500, Steve Fischer wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> what are you planning on blasting? >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> steve >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Alberto Davila wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Hi Steve, >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> On Fri, 2005-02-11 at 08:56 -0500, Steve Fischer wrote: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> poliana- >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> oops, the usage statement for LoadBlastSimFast is out of date. >>>>>>>>>>> it should instruct you to use the blastSimilarity command. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> LoadBlastSimFast makes a big assumption, that the subject and >>>>>>>>>>> query sequences are in GUS, and their def. lines have GUS primary >>>>>>>>>>> keys. >>>>>>>>>>> Are your sequences already loaded into GUS? >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> They are not, there would be any howto/tips for that plugin ? We >>>>>>>>>> will >>>>>>>>>> certainly need a plugin to load "Interpro" and "ORF finding" >>>>>>>>>> results >>>>>>>>>> into GUS... If they are not available, then maybe we will have to >>>>>>>>>> write >>>>>>>>>> them ... >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Cheers, Alberto >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> steve >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Poliana Mateus wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Hello all, >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Where can find the script parseBlastFilesForSimilarity.pl?? >>>>>>>>>>>> I'm trying to run LoadBlastSimFast... >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Poliana >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> > > > ------------------------------------------------------- > SF email is sponsored by - The IT Product Guide > Read honest & candid reviews on hundreds of IT Products from real users. > Discover which products truly live up to the hype. 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From: Alberto D. <da...@io...> - 2005-02-11 18:45:05
|
We are doing this for Garsa (another system) .. basically we have a bioperl parser (Bio::Search::IO) that reads the Blast results file and extract all the needed info (to the "Blast_Hit" table)... and also load into a given table (eg: External_DB) all the sequences (in fasta format) presenting similarity with the queries... at the end we have "Blast_Hit" and "External_DB" populated with the same script. Regarding Interpro and Glimmer, the main problem is to know in which tables we should load the parsed results ? Alberto On Fri, 2005-02-11 at 13:21 -0500, Y. Thomas Gan wrote: > I was going to give the same answer steve gave for interpro and gene > finding results. > > For loading sequences into GUS, the dillema with option 2 is: how do you > know which sequence to load when you load (which is before you actually > have the similarity result)? One solution would be to initially load > complete dataset(s) but delete those without similarity after loading > similarity results. > > -Thomas > > On Fri, 11 Feb 2005, Steve Fischer wrote: > > > alberto- > > > > we've never loaded interpro, so there isn't a plugin. > > i believe plasmodb has loaded glimmer results, though i'm not sure. i have > > asked a plasmodb developer to answer that question. > > > > steve > > > > Alberto Davila wrote: > > > >> Hey Steve, Thomas, > >> > >> Thanks a lot for the tips, really helpful.. now, few more questions: > >> > >> > >>> ok. NR = NRDB > >>> > >>> the way we have used gus with similarities is that both the query and > >>> subject are loaded into gus. As thomas explained, the similarity table > >>> captures similarity between sequences that are in gus. > >>> our approach has always been to just load (warehouse) the entire subject > >>> database (NR, EST) that we are blasting against. > >>> > >>> the current plugins and blastSimilarity are set up for this. > >>> > >>> obviously, this takes a lot of disk space. two major efficiencies that we > >>> don't currently have plugins for would be: > >>> 1. to only store in gus a *reference* to the external sequence (ie, don't > >>> store the actgs). > >>> 2. only store in gus the sequences that actually have similarities > >>> > >> > >> Option 2 sound better for us, since we will be blasting against several > >> databases (> 10GB databases) > >> > >> What about the plugins to load Interpro and "gene finder" (glimmer, etc) > >> results ? Is there any at all ? > >> > >> Cheers, Alberto > >> > >> > >>> steve > >>> > >>> Alberto Davila wrote: > >>> > >>> > >>>> All the blastable databases I mentioned are standard databases from NCBI > >>>> (ftp://ftp.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/blast/db/blastdb.txt): > >>>> > >>>> NT = nucleotides > >>>> > >>>> ~30000 entries from genbank (genbank format) are loaded into GUS now. > >>>> > >>>> Not sure about your "NRDB", I know NR from NCBI that is a collection of > >>>> aminoacid entries, could it be the same ? > >>>> > >>>> Alberto > >>>> > >>>> On Fri, 2005-02-11 at 10:43 -0500, Steve Fischer wrote: > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>>> (what is NT?) > >>>>> > >>>>> which of these (genbank, your fasta, NRDB, NT, EST) have you loaded into > >>>>> gus? > >>>>> > >>>>> steve > >>>>> > >>>>> Alberto Davila wrote: > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>>> Query: > >>>>>> > >>>>>> Either sequences from genbank (genbank format) or sequences generated > >>>>>> in > >>>>>> the lab (fasta format) > >>>>>> > >>>>>> Blastable databases (all are formatted databases from NCBI): > >>>>>> > >>>>>> NR > >>>>>> NT > >>>>>> EST > >>>>>> > >>>>>> Alberto > >>>>>> > >>>>>> On Fri, 2005-02-11 at 10:34 -0500, Steve Fischer wrote: > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>>> for the blast, what are the query sequences and what are the blastable > >>>>>>> databases? > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> steve > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> Alberto Davila wrote: > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> Basically we will use sequences (loaded into GUS with the GBParser) > >>>>>>>> for > >>>>>>>> NCBI Blast (Blastx, Blastp and TBlastX), the same sequences will be > >>>>>>>> also > >>>>>>>> used for Interpro analyses. Results of both (Blast and Interpro) will > >>>>>>>> be > >>>>>>>> loaded into GUS. We will parse specific things from the Blast > >>>>>>>> results, I > >>>>>>>> would say: > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> `Gi` `Accession` `Description` `E_value` `Score` `Length` > >>>>>>>> `Frame_Query` `Frame_Hit` `Identical` `Hsp_Frac_Identical` > >>>>>>>> `Conserved` `Hsp_Frac_Conserved` > >>>>>>>> `Query_Start` > >>>>>>>> `Query_End` `Hit_Start` `Hit_End` `Hsp_Align` `database_letters` > >>>>>>>> `database_entries` > >>>>>>>> We already have a Bioperl parser for that (specific for another > >>>>>>>> system: > >>>>>>>> GARSA) that could be adapted to GUS, problem being we are not sure > >>>>>>>> what > >>>>>>>> tables should be used to store those data in GUS. > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> Cheers, Alberto > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> On Fri, 2005-02-11 at 10:06 -0500, Steve Fischer wrote: > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> what are you planning on blasting? > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> steve > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> Alberto Davila wrote: > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> Hi Steve, > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> On Fri, 2005-02-11 at 08:56 -0500, Steve Fischer wrote: > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> poliana- > >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> oops, the usage statement for LoadBlastSimFast is out of date. > >>>>>>>>>>> it should instruct you to use the blastSimilarity command. > >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> LoadBlastSimFast makes a big assumption, that the subject and > >>>>>>>>>>> query sequences are in GUS, and their def. lines have GUS primary > >>>>>>>>>>> keys. > >>>>>>>>>>> Are your sequences already loaded into GUS? > >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> They are not, there would be any howto/tips for that plugin ? We > >>>>>>>>>> will > >>>>>>>>>> certainly need a plugin to load "Interpro" and "ORF finding" > >>>>>>>>>> results > >>>>>>>>>> into GUS... If they are not available, then maybe we will have to > >>>>>>>>>> write > >>>>>>>>>> them ... > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> Cheers, Alberto > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> steve > >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> Poliana Mateus wrote: > >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> Hello all, > >>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> Where can find the script parseBlastFilesForSimilarity.pl?? > >>>>>>>>>>>> I'm trying to run LoadBlastSimFast... > >>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> Poliana > >>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>> |
From: Steve F. <sfi...@pc...> - 2005-02-11 18:48:37
|
see below Alberto Davila wrote: >We are doing this for Garsa (another system) .. basically we have a >bioperl parser (Bio::Search::IO) that reads the Blast results file and >extract all the needed info (to the "Blast_Hit" table)... and also load >into a given table (eg: External_DB) all the sequences (in fasta format) >presenting similarity with the queries... at the end we have "Blast_Hit" >and "External_DB" populated with the same script. > > > wow, great. could you make a gus plugin from that? >Regarding Interpro and Glimmer, the main problem is to know in which >tables we should load the parsed results ? > > > describe the info you want to store. steve >Alberto > >On Fri, 2005-02-11 at 13:21 -0500, Y. Thomas Gan wrote: > > >>I was going to give the same answer steve gave for interpro and gene >>finding results. >> >>For loading sequences into GUS, the dillema with option 2 is: how do you >>know which sequence to load when you load (which is before you actually >>have the similarity result)? One solution would be to initially load >>complete dataset(s) but delete those without similarity after loading >>similarity results. >> >>-Thomas >> >>On Fri, 11 Feb 2005, Steve Fischer wrote: >> >> >> >>>alberto- >>> >>>we've never loaded interpro, so there isn't a plugin. >>>i believe plasmodb has loaded glimmer results, though i'm not sure. i have >>>asked a plasmodb developer to answer that question. >>> >>>steve >>> >>>Alberto Davila wrote: >>> >>> >>> >>>>Hey Steve, Thomas, >>>> >>>>Thanks a lot for the tips, really helpful.. now, few more questions: >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>>ok. NR = NRDB >>>>> >>>>>the way we have used gus with similarities is that both the query and >>>>>subject are loaded into gus. As thomas explained, the similarity table >>>>>captures similarity between sequences that are in gus. >>>>>our approach has always been to just load (warehouse) the entire subject >>>>>database (NR, EST) that we are blasting against. >>>>> >>>>>the current plugins and blastSimilarity are set up for this. >>>>> >>>>>obviously, this takes a lot of disk space. two major efficiencies that we >>>>>don't currently have plugins for would be: >>>>> 1. to only store in gus a *reference* to the external sequence (ie, don't >>>>>store the actgs). >>>>> 2. only store in gus the sequences that actually have similarities >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>Option 2 sound better for us, since we will be blasting against several >>>>databases (> 10GB databases) >>>> >>>>What about the plugins to load Interpro and "gene finder" (glimmer, etc) >>>>results ? Is there any at all ? >>>> >>>>Cheers, Alberto >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>>steve >>>>> >>>>>Alberto Davila wrote: >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>>All the blastable databases I mentioned are standard databases from NCBI >>>>>>(ftp://ftp.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/blast/db/blastdb.txt): >>>>>> >>>>>>NT = nucleotides >>>>>> >>>>>>~30000 entries from genbank (genbank format) are loaded into GUS now. >>>>>> >>>>>>Not sure about your "NRDB", I know NR from NCBI that is a collection of >>>>>>aminoacid entries, could it be the same ? >>>>>> >>>>>>Alberto >>>>>> >>>>>>On Fri, 2005-02-11 at 10:43 -0500, Steve Fischer wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>>(what is NT?) >>>>>>> >>>>>>>which of these (genbank, your fasta, NRDB, NT, EST) have you loaded into >>>>>>>gus? >>>>>>> >>>>>>>steve >>>>>>> >>>>>>>Alberto Davila wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>>Query: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>Either sequences from genbank (genbank format) or sequences generated >>>>>>>>in >>>>>>>>the lab (fasta format) >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>Blastable databases (all are formatted databases from NCBI): >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>NR >>>>>>>>NT >>>>>>>>EST >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>Alberto >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>On Fri, 2005-02-11 at 10:34 -0500, Steve Fischer wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>for the blast, what are the query sequences and what are the blastable >>>>>>>>>databases? >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>steve >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>Alberto Davila wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>Basically we will use sequences (loaded into GUS with the GBParser) >>>>>>>>>>for >>>>>>>>>>NCBI Blast (Blastx, Blastp and TBlastX), the same sequences will be >>>>>>>>>>also >>>>>>>>>>used for Interpro analyses. Results of both (Blast and Interpro) will >>>>>>>>>>be >>>>>>>>>>loaded into GUS. We will parse specific things from the Blast >>>>>>>>>>results, I >>>>>>>>>>would say: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>`Gi` `Accession` `Description` `E_value` `Score` `Length` >>>>>>>>>>`Frame_Query` `Frame_Hit` `Identical` `Hsp_Frac_Identical` >>>>>>>>>>`Conserved` `Hsp_Frac_Conserved` >>>>>>>>>>`Query_Start` >>>>>>>>>>`Query_End` `Hit_Start` `Hit_End` `Hsp_Align` `database_letters` >>>>>>>>>>`database_entries` >>>>>>>>>>We already have a Bioperl parser for that (specific for another >>>>>>>>>>system: >>>>>>>>>>GARSA) that could be adapted to GUS, problem being we are not sure >>>>>>>>>>what >>>>>>>>>>tables should be used to store those data in GUS. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>Cheers, Alberto >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>On Fri, 2005-02-11 at 10:06 -0500, Steve Fischer wrote: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>what are you planning on blasting? >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>steve >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>Alberto Davila wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>Hi Steve, >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>On Fri, 2005-02-11 at 08:56 -0500, Steve Fischer wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>poliana- >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>oops, the usage statement for LoadBlastSimFast is out of date. >>>>>>>>>>>>>it should instruct you to use the blastSimilarity command. >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>LoadBlastSimFast makes a big assumption, that the subject and >>>>>>>>>>>>>query sequences are in GUS, and their def. lines have GUS primary >>>>>>>>>>>>>keys. >>>>>>>>>>>>>Are your sequences already loaded into GUS? >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>They are not, there would be any howto/tips for that plugin ? We >>>>>>>>>>>>will >>>>>>>>>>>>certainly need a plugin to load "Interpro" and "ORF finding" >>>>>>>>>>>>results >>>>>>>>>>>>into GUS... If they are not available, then maybe we will have to >>>>>>>>>>>>write >>>>>>>>>>>>them ... >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>Cheers, Alberto >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>steve >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>Poliana Mateus wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>Hello all, >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>Where can find the script parseBlastFilesForSimilarity.pl?? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>I'm trying to run LoadBlastSimFast... >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>Poliana >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> |
From: Poliana M. <pol...@gm...> - 2005-02-14 19:15:48
|
Hi Steve I need to insert given in the GUS (resulted blast) as: ---------------------------------------------------- extracted data of ours script ---------------------------------------------------- query_name name accession description significance raw_score length num_identical frac_identical num_conserved frac_conserved start('query') end('query') start('hit') end('hit') ---------------------------------------------------- Analyzing the LoadBlastSimFast Plugin I verified that it inserts in tables DoTs.Similarity and DoTs.SymilaritySpan, both only accept given numerics. Exists into GUS other tables that store resulted of Blast? Poliana On Fri, 11 Feb 2005 13:50:32 -0500, Steve Fischer <sfi...@pc...> wrote: > see below > > Alberto Davila wrote: > > >We are doing this for Garsa (another system) .. basically we have a > >bioperl parser (Bio::Search::IO) that reads the Blast results file and > >extract all the needed info (to the "Blast_Hit" table)... and also load > >into a given table (eg: External_DB) all the sequences (in fasta format) > >presenting similarity with the queries... at the end we have "Blast_Hit" > >and "External_DB" populated with the same script. > > > > > > > wow, great. could you make a gus plugin from that? > > >Regarding Interpro and Glimmer, the main problem is to know in which > >tables we should load the parsed results ? > > > > > > > describe the info you want to store. > > steve > > >Alberto > > > >On Fri, 2005-02-11 at 13:21 -0500, Y. Thomas Gan wrote: > > > > > >>I was going to give the same answer steve gave for interpro and gene > >>finding results. > >> > >>For loading sequences into GUS, the dillema with option 2 is: how do you > >>know which sequence to load when you load (which is before you actually > >>have the similarity result)? One solution would be to initially load > >>complete dataset(s) but delete those without similarity after loading > >>similarity results. > >> > >>-Thomas > >> > >>On Fri, 11 Feb 2005, Steve Fischer wrote: > >> > >> > >> > >>>alberto- > >>> > >>>we've never loaded interpro, so there isn't a plugin. > >>>i believe plasmodb has loaded glimmer results, though i'm not sure. i have > >>>asked a plasmodb developer to answer that question. > >>> > >>>steve > >>> > >>>Alberto Davila wrote: > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>>>Hey Steve, Thomas, > >>>> > >>>>Thanks a lot for the tips, really helpful.. now, few more questions: > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>>>ok. NR = NRDB > >>>>> > >>>>>the way we have used gus with similarities is that both the query and > >>>>>subject are loaded into gus. As thomas explained, the similarity table > >>>>>captures similarity between sequences that are in gus. > >>>>>our approach has always been to just load (warehouse) the entire subject > >>>>>database (NR, EST) that we are blasting against. > >>>>> > >>>>>the current plugins and blastSimilarity are set up for this. > >>>>> > >>>>>obviously, this takes a lot of disk space. two major efficiencies that we > >>>>>don't currently have plugins for would be: > >>>>> 1. to only store in gus a *reference* to the external sequence (ie, don't > >>>>>store the actgs). > >>>>> 2. only store in gus the sequences that actually have similarities > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>Option 2 sound better for us, since we will be blasting against several > >>>>databases (> 10GB databases) > >>>> > >>>>What about the plugins to load Interpro and "gene finder" (glimmer, etc) > >>>>results ? Is there any at all ? > >>>> > >>>>Cheers, Alberto > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>>>steve > >>>>> > >>>>>Alberto Davila wrote: > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>>>All the blastable databases I mentioned are standard databases from NCBI > >>>>>>(ftp://ftp.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/blast/db/blastdb.txt): > >>>>>> > >>>>>>NT = nucleotides > >>>>>> > >>>>>>~30000 entries from genbank (genbank format) are loaded into GUS now. > >>>>>> > >>>>>>Not sure about your "NRDB", I know NR from NCBI that is a collection of > >>>>>>aminoacid entries, could it be the same ? > >>>>>> > >>>>>>Alberto > >>>>>> > >>>>>>On Fri, 2005-02-11 at 10:43 -0500, Steve Fischer wrote: > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>>>(what is NT?) > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>>which of these (genbank, your fasta, NRDB, NT, EST) have you loaded into > >>>>>>>gus? > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>>steve > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>>Alberto Davila wrote: > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>Query: > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>Either sequences from genbank (genbank format) or sequences generated > >>>>>>>>in > >>>>>>>>the lab (fasta format) > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>Blastable databases (all are formatted databases from NCBI): > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>NR > >>>>>>>>NT > >>>>>>>>EST > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>Alberto > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>On Fri, 2005-02-11 at 10:34 -0500, Steve Fischer wrote: > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>for the blast, what are the query sequences and what are the blastable > >>>>>>>>>databases? > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>steve > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>Alberto Davila wrote: > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>Basically we will use sequences (loaded into GUS with the GBParser) > >>>>>>>>>>for > >>>>>>>>>>NCBI Blast (Blastx, Blastp and TBlastX), the same sequences will be > >>>>>>>>>>also > >>>>>>>>>>used for Interpro analyses. Results of both (Blast and Interpro) will > >>>>>>>>>>be > >>>>>>>>>>loaded into GUS. We will parse specific things from the Blast > >>>>>>>>>>results, I > >>>>>>>>>>would say: > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>`Gi` `Accession` `Description` `E_value` `Score` `Length` > >>>>>>>>>>`Frame_Query` `Frame_Hit` `Identical` `Hsp_Frac_Identical` > >>>>>>>>>>`Conserved` `Hsp_Frac_Conserved` > >>>>>>>>>>`Query_Start` > >>>>>>>>>>`Query_End` `Hit_Start` `Hit_End` `Hsp_Align` `database_letters` > >>>>>>>>>>`database_entries` > >>>>>>>>>>We already have a Bioperl parser for that (specific for another > >>>>>>>>>>system: > >>>>>>>>>>GARSA) that could be adapted to GUS, problem being we are not sure > >>>>>>>>>>what > >>>>>>>>>>tables should be used to store those data in GUS. > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>Cheers, Alberto > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>On Fri, 2005-02-11 at 10:06 -0500, Steve Fischer wrote: > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>what are you planning on blasting? > >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>steve > >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>Alberto Davila wrote: > >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>Hi Steve, > >>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>On Fri, 2005-02-11 at 08:56 -0500, Steve Fischer wrote: > >>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>poliana- > >>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>oops, the usage statement for LoadBlastSimFast is out of date. > >>>>>>>>>>>>>it should instruct you to use the blastSimilarity command. > >>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>LoadBlastSimFast makes a big assumption, that the subject and > >>>>>>>>>>>>>query sequences are in GUS, and their def. lines have GUS primary > >>>>>>>>>>>>>keys. > >>>>>>>>>>>>>Are your sequences already loaded into GUS? > >>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>They are not, there would be any howto/tips for that plugin ? We > >>>>>>>>>>>>will > >>>>>>>>>>>>certainly need a plugin to load "Interpro" and "ORF finding" > >>>>>>>>>>>>results > >>>>>>>>>>>>into GUS... If they are not available, then maybe we will have to > >>>>>>>>>>>>write > >>>>>>>>>>>>them ... > >>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>Cheers, Alberto > >>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>steve > >>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>Poliana Mateus wrote: > >>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>Hello all, > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>Where can find the script parseBlastFilesForSimilarity.pl?? > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>I'm trying to run LoadBlastSimFast... > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>Poliana > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > |
From: Steve F. <sfi...@pc...> - 2005-02-14 20:53:37
|
Poliana- the only blast plugins we have are LoadBlastSimFast and LoadBlastSimilarityPK. the only tables are Similarity and SimilaritySpan steve Poliana Mateus wrote: >Hi Steve > >I need to insert given in the GUS (resulted blast) as: > >---------------------------------------------------- >extracted data of ours script >---------------------------------------------------- >query_name >name >accession >description >significance >raw_score >length >num_identical >frac_identical >num_conserved >frac_conserved >start('query') >end('query') >start('hit') >end('hit') >---------------------------------------------------- > >Analyzing the LoadBlastSimFast Plugin I verified that it inserts in >tables DoTs.Similarity and DoTs.SymilaritySpan, both only accept given >numerics. >Exists into GUS other tables that store resulted of Blast? > >Poliana > > > > > > >On Fri, 11 Feb 2005 13:50:32 -0500, Steve Fischer ><sfi...@pc...> wrote: > > >>see below >> >>Alberto Davila wrote: >> >> >> >>>We are doing this for Garsa (another system) .. basically we have a >>>bioperl parser (Bio::Search::IO) that reads the Blast results file and >>>extract all the needed info (to the "Blast_Hit" table)... and also load >>>into a given table (eg: External_DB) all the sequences (in fasta format) >>>presenting similarity with the queries... at the end we have "Blast_Hit" >>>and "External_DB" populated with the same script. >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>wow, great. could you make a gus plugin from that? >> >> >> >>>Regarding Interpro and Glimmer, the main problem is to know in which >>>tables we should load the parsed results ? >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>describe the info you want to store. >> >>steve >> >> >> >>>Alberto >>> >>>On Fri, 2005-02-11 at 13:21 -0500, Y. Thomas Gan wrote: >>> >>> >>> >>> >>>>I was going to give the same answer steve gave for interpro and gene >>>>finding results. >>>> >>>>For loading sequences into GUS, the dillema with option 2 is: how do you >>>>know which sequence to load when you load (which is before you actually >>>>have the similarity result)? One solution would be to initially load >>>>complete dataset(s) but delete those without similarity after loading >>>>similarity results. >>>> >>>>-Thomas >>>> >>>>On Fri, 11 Feb 2005, Steve Fischer wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>>alberto- >>>>> >>>>>we've never loaded interpro, so there isn't a plugin. >>>>>i believe plasmodb has loaded glimmer results, though i'm not sure. i have >>>>>asked a plasmodb developer to answer that question. >>>>> >>>>>steve >>>>> >>>>>Alberto Davila wrote: >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>>Hey Steve, Thomas, >>>>>> >>>>>>Thanks a lot for the tips, really helpful.. now, few more questions: >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>>ok. NR = NRDB >>>>>>> >>>>>>>the way we have used gus with similarities is that both the query and >>>>>>>subject are loaded into gus. As thomas explained, the similarity table >>>>>>>captures similarity between sequences that are in gus. >>>>>>>our approach has always been to just load (warehouse) the entire subject >>>>>>>database (NR, EST) that we are blasting against. >>>>>>> >>>>>>>the current plugins and blastSimilarity are set up for this. >>>>>>> >>>>>>>obviously, this takes a lot of disk space. two major efficiencies that we >>>>>>>don't currently have plugins for would be: >>>>>>>1. to only store in gus a *reference* to the external sequence (ie, don't >>>>>>>store the actgs). >>>>>>>2. only store in gus the sequences that actually have similarities >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>Option 2 sound better for us, since we will be blasting against several >>>>>>databases (> 10GB databases) >>>>>> >>>>>>What about the plugins to load Interpro and "gene finder" (glimmer, etc) >>>>>>results ? Is there any at all ? >>>>>> >>>>>>Cheers, Alberto >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>>steve >>>>>>> >>>>>>>Alberto Davila wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>>All the blastable databases I mentioned are standard databases from NCBI >>>>>>>>(ftp://ftp.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/blast/db/blastdb.txt): >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>NT = nucleotides >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>~30000 entries from genbank (genbank format) are loaded into GUS now. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>Not sure about your "NRDB", I know NR from NCBI that is a collection of >>>>>>>>aminoacid entries, could it be the same ? >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>Alberto >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>On Fri, 2005-02-11 at 10:43 -0500, Steve Fischer wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>(what is NT?) >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>which of these (genbank, your fasta, NRDB, NT, EST) have you loaded into >>>>>>>>>gus? >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>steve >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>Alberto Davila wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>Query: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>Either sequences from genbank (genbank format) or sequences generated >>>>>>>>>>in >>>>>>>>>>the lab (fasta format) >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>Blastable databases (all are formatted databases from NCBI): >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>NR >>>>>>>>>>NT >>>>>>>>>>EST >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>Alberto >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>On Fri, 2005-02-11 at 10:34 -0500, Steve Fischer wrote: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>for the blast, what are the query sequences and what are the blastable >>>>>>>>>>>databases? >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>steve >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>Alberto Davila wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>Basically we will use sequences (loaded into GUS with the GBParser) >>>>>>>>>>>>for >>>>>>>>>>>>NCBI Blast (Blastx, Blastp and TBlastX), the same sequences will be >>>>>>>>>>>>also >>>>>>>>>>>>used for Interpro analyses. Results of both (Blast and Interpro) will >>>>>>>>>>>>be >>>>>>>>>>>>loaded into GUS. We will parse specific things from the Blast >>>>>>>>>>>>results, I >>>>>>>>>>>>would say: >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>`Gi` `Accession` `Description` `E_value` `Score` `Length` >>>>>>>>>>>>`Frame_Query` `Frame_Hit` `Identical` `Hsp_Frac_Identical` >>>>>>>>>>>>`Conserved` `Hsp_Frac_Conserved` >>>>>>>>>>>>`Query_Start` >>>>>>>>>>>>`Query_End` `Hit_Start` `Hit_End` `Hsp_Align` `database_letters` >>>>>>>>>>>>`database_entries` >>>>>>>>>>>>We already have a Bioperl parser for that (specific for another >>>>>>>>>>>>system: >>>>>>>>>>>>GARSA) that could be adapted to GUS, problem being we are not sure >>>>>>>>>>>>what >>>>>>>>>>>>tables should be used to store those data in GUS. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>Cheers, Alberto >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>On Fri, 2005-02-11 at 10:06 -0500, Steve Fischer wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>what are you planning on blasting? >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>steve >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>Alberto Davila wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>Hi Steve, >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>On Fri, 2005-02-11 at 08:56 -0500, Steve Fischer wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>poliana- >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>oops, the usage statement for LoadBlastSimFast is out of date. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>it should instruct you to use the blastSimilarity command. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>LoadBlastSimFast makes a big assumption, that the subject and >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>query sequences are in GUS, and their def. lines have GUS primary >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>keys. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Are your sequences already loaded into GUS? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>They are not, there would be any howto/tips for that plugin ? We >>>>>>>>>>>>>>will >>>>>>>>>>>>>>certainly need a plugin to load "Interpro" and "ORF finding" >>>>>>>>>>>>>>results >>>>>>>>>>>>>>into GUS... If they are not available, then maybe we will have to >>>>>>>>>>>>>>write >>>>>>>>>>>>>>them ... >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>Cheers, Alberto >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>steve >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Poliana Mateus wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Hello all, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Where can find the script parseBlastFilesForSimilarity.pl?? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>I'm trying to run LoadBlastSimFast... >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Poliana >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> |
From: Bindu G. <bi...@pc...> - 2005-02-14 19:45:55
|
hi Alberto - PlasmoDB project uses a plugin to load the GlimmerM results; it is GUS::Common::Plugin::ImportPlasmoDBPrediction plugin in the Sanger cvs repository. however, please note that this plugin is not generalized, and has been used here only for the PlasmoDB project so far. It would be useful to generalize this plugin some day, so that all can benefit. Bindu On Feb 11, 2005, at 12:44 PM, Alberto Davila wrote: > Hey Steve, Thomas, > > Thanks a lot for the tips, really helpful.. now, few more questions: > >> ok. NR = NRDB >> >> the way we have used gus with similarities is that both the query and >> subject are loaded into gus. As thomas explained, the similarity >> table >> captures similarity between sequences that are in gus. >> >> our approach has always been to just load (warehouse) the entire >> subject >> database (NR, EST) that we are blasting against. >> >> the current plugins and blastSimilarity are set up for this. >> >> obviously, this takes a lot of disk space. two major efficiencies >> that >> we don't currently have plugins for would be: >> 1. to only store in gus a *reference* to the external sequence (ie, >> don't store the actgs). >> 2. only store in gus the sequences that actually have similarities > > Option 2 sound better for us, since we will be blasting against several > databases (> 10GB databases) > > What about the plugins to load Interpro and "gene finder" (glimmer, > etc) > results ? Is there any at all ? > > Cheers, Alberto > >> >> steve >> >> Alberto Davila wrote: >> >>> All the blastable databases I mentioned are standard databases from >>> NCBI >>> (ftp://ftp.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/blast/db/blastdb.txt): >>> >>> NT = nucleotides >>> >>> ~30000 entries from genbank (genbank format) are loaded into GUS now. >>> >>> Not sure about your "NRDB", I know NR from NCBI that is a collection >>> of >>> aminoacid entries, could it be the same ? >>> >>> Alberto >>> >>> On Fri, 2005-02-11 at 10:43 -0500, Steve Fischer wrote: >>> >>> >>>> (what is NT?) >>>> >>>> which of these (genbank, your fasta, NRDB, NT, EST) have you loaded >>>> into >>>> gus? >>>> >>>> steve >>>> >>>> Alberto Davila wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>> Query: >>>>> >>>>> Either sequences from genbank (genbank format) or sequences >>>>> generated in >>>>> the lab (fasta format) >>>>> >>>>> Blastable databases (all are formatted databases from NCBI): >>>>> >>>>> NR >>>>> NT >>>>> EST >>>>> >>>>> Alberto >>>>> >>>>> On Fri, 2005-02-11 at 10:34 -0500, Steve Fischer wrote: >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> for the blast, what are the query sequences and what are the >>>>>> blastable >>>>>> databases? >>>>>> >>>>>> steve >>>>>> >>>>>> Alberto Davila wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>> Basically we will use sequences (loaded into GUS with the >>>>>>> GBParser) for >>>>>>> NCBI Blast (Blastx, Blastp and TBlastX), the same sequences will >>>>>>> be also >>>>>>> used for Interpro analyses. Results of both (Blast and Interpro) >>>>>>> will be >>>>>>> loaded into GUS. We will parse specific things from the Blast >>>>>>> results, I >>>>>>> would say: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> `Gi` >>>>>>> `Accession` >>>>>>> `Description` >>>>>>> `E_value` >>>>>>> `Score` >>>>>>> `Length` >>>>>>> `Frame_Query` >>>>>>> `Frame_Hit` >>>>>>> `Identical` >>>>>>> `Hsp_Frac_Identical` >>>>>>> `Conserved` >>>>>>> `Hsp_Frac_Conserved` >>>>>>> `Query_Start` >>>>>>> `Query_End` >>>>>>> `Hit_Start` >>>>>>> `Hit_End` >>>>>>> `Hsp_Align` >>>>>>> `database_letters` >>>>>>> `database_entries` >>>>>>> >>>>>>> We already have a Bioperl parser for that (specific for another >>>>>>> system: >>>>>>> GARSA) that could be adapted to GUS, problem being we are not >>>>>>> sure what >>>>>>> tables should be used to store those data in GUS. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Cheers, Alberto >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Fri, 2005-02-11 at 10:06 -0500, Steve Fischer wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> what are you planning on blasting? >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> steve >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Alberto Davila wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Hi Steve, >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On Fri, 2005-02-11 at 08:56 -0500, Steve Fischer wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> poliana- >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> oops, the usage statement for LoadBlastSimFast is out of >>>>>>>>>> date. it >>>>>>>>>> should instruct you to use the blastSimilarity command. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> LoadBlastSimFast makes a big assumption, that the subject and >>>>>>>>>> query >>>>>>>>>> sequences are in GUS, and their def. lines have GUS primary >>>>>>>>>> keys. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Are your sequences already loaded into GUS? >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> They are not, there would be any howto/tips for that plugin ? >>>>>>>>> We will >>>>>>>>> certainly need a plugin to load "Interpro" and "ORF finding" >>>>>>>>> results >>>>>>>>> into GUS... If they are not available, then maybe we will have >>>>>>>>> to write >>>>>>>>> them ... >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Cheers, Alberto >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> steve >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Poliana Mateus wrote: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Hello all, >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Where can find the script parseBlastFilesForSimilarity.pl?? >>>>>>>>>>> I'm trying to run LoadBlastSimFast... >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Poliana >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>> >>> >>> > > > > ------------------------------------------------------- > SF email is sponsored by - The IT Product Guide > Read honest & candid reviews on hundreds of IT Products from real > users. > Discover which products truly live up to the hype. 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From: Alberto D. <da...@io...> - 2005-02-15 15:46:08
|
Thanks Bindu, We will have a look on it... also, just found a Bioperl module for GlimmerM: http://doc.bioperl.org/bioperl-live/Bio/Tools/Glimmer.html Cheers, Alberto On Mon, 2005-02-14 at 14:45 -0500, Bindu Gajria wrote: > hi Alberto - > PlasmoDB project uses a plugin to load the GlimmerM results; it is > GUS::Common::Plugin::ImportPlasmoDBPrediction plugin in the Sanger cvs > repository. however, please note that this plugin is not generalized, > and has been used here only for the PlasmoDB project so far. > It would be useful to generalize this plugin some day, so that all can > benefit. > > Bindu > > > On Feb 11, 2005, at 12:44 PM, Alberto Davila wrote: > > > Hey Steve, Thomas, > > > > Thanks a lot for the tips, really helpful.. now, few more questions: > > > >> ok. NR = NRDB > >> > >> the way we have used gus with similarities is that both the query and > >> subject are loaded into gus. As thomas explained, the similarity > >> table > >> captures similarity between sequences that are in gus. > >> > >> our approach has always been to just load (warehouse) the entire > >> subject > >> database (NR, EST) that we are blasting against. > >> > >> the current plugins and blastSimilarity are set up for this. > >> > >> obviously, this takes a lot of disk space. two major efficiencies > >> that > >> we don't currently have plugins for would be: > >> 1. to only store in gus a *reference* to the external sequence (ie, > >> don't store the actgs). > >> 2. only store in gus the sequences that actually have similarities > > > > Option 2 sound better for us, since we will be blasting against several > > databases (> 10GB databases) > > > > What about the plugins to load Interpro and "gene finder" (glimmer, > > etc) > > results ? Is there any at all ? > > > > Cheers, Alberto > > > >> > >> steve > >> > >> Alberto Davila wrote: > >> > >>> All the blastable databases I mentioned are standard databases from > >>> NCBI > >>> (ftp://ftp.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/blast/db/blastdb.txt): > >>> > >>> NT = nucleotides > >>> > >>> ~30000 entries from genbank (genbank format) are loaded into GUS now. > >>> > >>> Not sure about your "NRDB", I know NR from NCBI that is a collection > >>> of > >>> aminoacid entries, could it be the same ? > >>> > >>> Alberto > >>> > >>> On Fri, 2005-02-11 at 10:43 -0500, Steve Fischer wrote: > >>> > >>> > >>>> (what is NT?) > >>>> > >>>> which of these (genbank, your fasta, NRDB, NT, EST) have you loaded > >>>> into > >>>> gus? > >>>> > >>>> steve > >>>> > >>>> Alberto Davila wrote: > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>>> Query: > >>>>> > >>>>> Either sequences from genbank (genbank format) or sequences > >>>>> generated in > >>>>> the lab (fasta format) > >>>>> > >>>>> Blastable databases (all are formatted databases from NCBI): > >>>>> > >>>>> NR > >>>>> NT > >>>>> EST > >>>>> > >>>>> Alberto > >>>>> > >>>>> On Fri, 2005-02-11 at 10:34 -0500, Steve Fischer wrote: > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>>> for the blast, what are the query sequences and what are the > >>>>>> blastable > >>>>>> databases? > >>>>>> > >>>>>> steve > >>>>>> > >>>>>> Alberto Davila wrote: > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>>> Basically we will use sequences (loaded into GUS with the > >>>>>>> GBParser) for > >>>>>>> NCBI Blast (Blastx, Blastp and TBlastX), the same sequences will > >>>>>>> be also > >>>>>>> used for Interpro analyses. Results of both (Blast and Interpro) > >>>>>>> will be > >>>>>>> loaded into GUS. We will parse specific things from the Blast > >>>>>>> results, I > >>>>>>> would say: > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> `Gi` > >>>>>>> `Accession` > >>>>>>> `Description` > >>>>>>> `E_value` > >>>>>>> `Score` > >>>>>>> `Length` > >>>>>>> `Frame_Query` > >>>>>>> `Frame_Hit` > >>>>>>> `Identical` > >>>>>>> `Hsp_Frac_Identical` > >>>>>>> `Conserved` > >>>>>>> `Hsp_Frac_Conserved` > >>>>>>> `Query_Start` > >>>>>>> `Query_End` > >>>>>>> `Hit_Start` > >>>>>>> `Hit_End` > >>>>>>> `Hsp_Align` > >>>>>>> `database_letters` > >>>>>>> `database_entries` > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> We already have a Bioperl parser for that (specific for another > >>>>>>> system: > >>>>>>> GARSA) that could be adapted to GUS, problem being we are not > >>>>>>> sure what > >>>>>>> tables should be used to store those data in GUS. > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> Cheers, Alberto > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> On Fri, 2005-02-11 at 10:06 -0500, Steve Fischer wrote: > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> what are you planning on blasting? > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> steve > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> Alberto Davila wrote: > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> Hi Steve, > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> On Fri, 2005-02-11 at 08:56 -0500, Steve Fischer wrote: > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> poliana- > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> oops, the usage statement for LoadBlastSimFast is out of > >>>>>>>>>> date. it > >>>>>>>>>> should instruct you to use the blastSimilarity command. > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> LoadBlastSimFast makes a big assumption, that the subject and > >>>>>>>>>> query > >>>>>>>>>> sequences are in GUS, and their def. lines have GUS primary > >>>>>>>>>> keys. > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> Are your sequences already loaded into GUS? > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> They are not, there would be any howto/tips for that plugin ? > >>>>>>>>> We will > >>>>>>>>> certainly need a plugin to load "Interpro" and "ORF finding" > >>>>>>>>> results > >>>>>>>>> into GUS... If they are not available, then maybe we will have > >>>>>>>>> to write > >>>>>>>>> them ... > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> Cheers, Alberto > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> steve > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> Poliana Mateus wrote: > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> Hello all, > >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> Where can find the script parseBlastFilesForSimilarity.pl?? > >>>>>>>>>>> I'm trying to run LoadBlastSimFast... > >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> Poliana |