Re: [Gumstix-users] webcam still/stream capture suggestions?

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Doh!

I misremembered.  I had to choose V4L1 in order to get the broad selection
of webcam drivers...and I am using the V4L1 version of gspca.

I compiled spcacat from Michael Xhaard's spcaview package and it works
fine with the gspca driver.

Now some things are starting to become clear!

The linux-uvc driver is for V4L2, I think that xawtv is for v4l2 but the
web site isn't explicit, camE doesn't even mention v4l, the "motion"
website doesn't state a requirement for v4l....and so on.

I'm getting confused on the v4l1 vs. v4l2 issue.  Is it a "try it and see"
world?

James

> Christopher,
>
> I've noticed no odd behavior.
>
> I'm using a powered USB hub.  My USB wifi works through it fine.
>
> I'm using the console-vx board.  I also have a breakout-vx but I haven't
> tried it.
>
> I'm using the 5v power supply (I purchased the robostix which requires
> 5v).
>
> I'm beginning to wonder if I have a v4l version problem.  I'm using v4l2
> with the v4l1 compatibility layer.
>
> How do you have your v4l configured?
>
>> James,
>> I have a few questions for you. What are you using for a power supply?
>> What
>> board are you using to connect with the USB? Do you notice any funny
>> behavior with the webcam when you try using vidcat?
>> I purchased the 4V power supply with my board, and when I went to take
>> an
>> screenshot, I would notice the LEDs on my webcam go dim. I assume this
>> is
>> due to insufficient power reaching the device. If you notice anything
>> like
>> this, you may want to try sourcing your own power to the webcam. I know
>> there are USB hubs that have their own power supply; something like that
>> would be a quick and dirty fix if low power was the source of your
>> problem.
>>
>> 2007/7/25, 48...@la... <48...@la...>:
>>>
>>> I compiled some of the xawtv tools last night.  I reached a point,
>>> finally, of trying to use the tools but I get a "no grabber device
>>> available" error from most of the tools (webcam, streamer,...).
>>>
>>> However from v4lctl, I do get the expected information about the
>>> attached
>>> camera...I do have a /dev/video0, which I assume to be a "grabber
>>> device."
>>>
>>> Net result:  I have yet to get a usable capture from the camera.  :(
>>> (and by that I mean no images at all)
>>>
>>> I have a few more options to try, though.
>>>
>>> James
>>>
>>>
>>> > Sorry James, I have been quite busy tonight, and have not had a
>>> chance
>>> to
>>> > play around with this.
>>> > However, if I remember correctly (and I usually do), the Vimicro
>>> webcam
>>> I
>>> > use was not picked up by any of the drivers that I built in the
>>> kernel
>>> > (and
>>> > I tried all of them).
>>> >
>>> > 2007/7/24, Christopher Gilbert <mo...@gm...>:
>>> >>
>>> >> I must confess, when building the GSPCA module, I whacked together
>>> the
>>> >> Makefile by hand after watching the configure script fail again and
>>> >> again. I
>>> >> have attached that as well.
>>> >> I'll get back to you when I test things out tonight.
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >> 2007/7/24, 48...@la... <48...@la...>:
>>> >> >
>>> >> > Christopher,
>>> >> >
>>> >> > Well, I tried vidcat on all of the cameras, including using the
>>> jpg
>>> >> > option.  I then did a cursory inspection of the data to attempt to
>>> >> find
>>> >> > some graphics file headers that I could recognize.  I didn't find
>>> a
>>> >> JFIF
>>> >> >
>>> >> > header when I used the jpg option so I don't think that the data
>>> >> > retrieved
>>> >> > was a jpeg file.  Nor did I find PNG embedded in the data.
>>> >> >
>>> >> > In some cases the data was just a repition of the exact same
>>> couple
>>> of
>>> >> > bytes.  In others, there was obvious meaningful structure and
>>> repition
>>> >> > of
>>> >> > blocks (suggestive of "packets") but I still didn't recognize any
>>> >> tags.
>>> >> >
>>> >> > However, I confess that I was just looking for something easy to
>>> >> > recognize.  At least I'm getting data!  (Thank you.)  Now I need
>>> to
>>> be
>>> >> a
>>> >> > bit more methodical about interpreting the data I'm getting...and
>>> >> > perhaps
>>> >> > poking at the camera(s) a bit more using some of Pascal's
>>> suggestions.
>>> >> >
>>> >> > As for gspca, did you enable the "experimental" compression?  (I
>>> >> didn't
>>> >> > and had to modify on of the image sensor or bridge modules (not
>>> the
>>> >> one
>>> >> > I'm using) to get the full package to compile.)
>>> >> >
>>> >> > Again, thanks!
>>> >> >
>>> >> > > Damn good question, I have compiled both GSPCA and ZC301 modules
>>> and
>>> >> > put
>>> >> > > them in the system (sorry that I forgot about GSPCA btw)...I am
>>> not
>>> >> > sure
>>> >> > > which the system chooses for the webcam.
>>> >> > > When I use my webcam on my Linux desktop, I need to use GSPCA so
>>> I
>>> >> > assumed
>>> >> > > that was what was being utilized.
>>> >> > >
>>> >> > > When you say that the two cameras do not present usable data,
>>> what
>>> >> > exactly
>>> >> > > do you mean? One reason I can think of is that vidcat uses the
>>> png
>>> >> > format
>>> >> > > by
>>> >> > > default (if I remember correctly). You may want to explicitly
>>> set
>>> >> the
>>> >> > > format
>>> >> > > option on the command line.
>>> >> > >
>>> >> > > I am going to get some work done with my verdex tonight, so I
>>> will
>>> >> let
>>> >> > you
>>> >> > > know if I come up with something definitive with regards to your
>>> >> > question.
>>> >> > >
>>> >> > > 2007/7/24, 48...@la... <48...@la... >:
>>> >> > >>
>>> >> > >> Christopher,
>>> >> > >>
>>> >> > >> I was successful last night in compiling the gspca driver, the
>>> >> > linux-uvc
>>> >> > >> driver and vidcat.
>>> >> > >>
>>> >> > >> As a result I was able to use three different webcams, an MS
>>> >> VX-3000
>>> >> > >> (gspca), a Logitech Quickcam Deluxe for Notebooks (linux-uvc),
>>> and
>>> >> a
>>> >> > >> Vimicro ZC301P (gspca).
>>> >> > >>
>>> >> > >> The two that used the gspca driver mapped up to /dev/video0 and
>>> I
>>> >> was
>>> >> > >> able
>>> >> > >> to get them to respond to vidcat--the camera light would come
>>> on
>>> >> and
>>> >> > go
>>> >> > >> off based on vidcat control.  However, they did not produce
>>> useable
>>> >> > >> data.
>>> >> > >>
>>> >> > >> The VX-3000 is supposed to be able to provide jpeg images but
>>> when
>>> >> I
>>> >> > >> tried
>>> >> > >> vidcat with the jpg option the resulting file did not have a
>>> JFIF
>>> >> > header
>>> >> > >> anywhere...and assuming that vidcat actually compresses the raw
>>> >> data
>>> >> > >> itself, I would expect a JFIF header then, especially.
>>> >> > >>
>>> >> > >> The Vimicro behaved about the same except that it produced
>>> about
>>> >> 2.5
>>> >> > >> times
>>> >> > >> the amount of data as the VX-3000 for the same vidcat command
>>> >> > options.
>>> >> > >>
>>> >> > >> The linux-uvc driver and the Quickcam Deluxe for Notebooks
>>> would
>>> >> map
>>> >> > to
>>> >> > >> /dev/video0 but attempts to reference /dev/video0 from vidcat
>>> would
>>> >> > >> result
>>> >> > >> in "device does not exist" (or whatever the verbiage is).
>>> >> > >>
>>> >> > >> So, thinking of different ways to attack the problem, I have a
>>> >> > question;
>>> >> > >>
>>> >> > >> Are you using the ZC301[P] driver that comes with the kernel?
>>> >> > >>
>>> >> > >> If so, I'll drop the gspca driver and try that driver instead.
>>> >> > >>
>>> >> > >> Thanks again for sharing!
>>> >> > >>
>>> >> > >> James
>>> >> > >>
>>> >> > >> > Have you seen this:
>>> >> > >> >
>>> >> > >> > http://www.mikekohn.net/nakenweb.php
>>> >> > >> >
>>> >> > >> > -marc
>>> >> > >> >
>>> >> > >> > On 7/23/07, Christopher Gilbert <mo...@gm...> wrote:
>>> >> > >> >> I am working with a Vimicro ZC301PLH. It cost me $5 on EBay.
>>> I
>>> >> > >> haven't
>>> >> > >> >> been
>>> >> > >> >> able to get a _clear_ picture out of vidcat on the gumstix,
>>> but
>>> >> it
>>> >> > >> works
>>> >> > >> >> fine in Windows and Linux. If you have problems getting a
>>> clean
>>> >> > image
>>> >> > >> >> with
>>> >> > >> >> vidcat as well, I'd be interested to hear about it.
>>> >> > >> >>
>>> >> > >> >> 2007/7/23, Marc Nicholas <gee...@gm... >:
>>> >> > >> >> > Hi Christopher,
>>> >> > >> >> >
>>> >> > >> >> > Out of interest...which USB camera are you using?
>>> >> > >> >> >
>>> >> > >> >> > -marc
>>> >> > >> >> >
>>> >> > >> >> > On 7/23/07, Christopher Gilbert <mo...@gm...> wrote:
>>> >> > >> >> > > Attached is the makefile I used. My typical approach to
>>> >> > building
>>> >> > >> >> extra
>>> >> > >> >> tools
>>> >> > >> >> > > is just to hack through the makefiles by hand, however I
>>> am
>>> >> > sure
>>> >> > >> the
>>> >> > >> >> > > configure script could do this all for you. The vidcat
>>> >> utility
>>> >> > is
>>> >> > >> >> part
>>> >> > >> >> of
>>> >> > >> >> > > the w3cam package.
>>> >> > >> >> > > Something to note, running the webcam draws a
>>> considerable
>>> >> > amount
>>> >> > >> of
>>> >> > >> >> power.
>>> >> > >> >> > > If you find yourself using a USB hub, you may want to
>>> rig
>>> up
>>> >> a
>>> >> > >> >> separate
>>> >> > >> >> > > power source.
>>> >> > >> >> > >
>>> >> > >> >> > >
>>> >> > >> >> > > 2007/7/23, 48...@la... < 48...@la...>:
>>> >> > >> >> > > > Christopher,
>>> >> > >> >> > > >
>>> >> > >> >> > > > Thanks for the reply!
>>> >> > >> >> > > >
>>> >> > >> >> > > > vidcat is what I was looking for.  Until now I was
>>> looking
>>> >> > at
>>> >> > >> >> streamer,
>>> >> > >> >> > > > etc. from the xawtv package for V4L.
>>> >> > >> >> > > >
>>> >> > >> >> > > > Will you share your makefile for vidcat?  Any other
>>> >> > >> instructions
>>> >> > >> >> to
>>> >> > >> >> > > > compile it?
>>> >> > >> >> > > >
>>> >> > >> >> > > > Everything will be greatly appreciated.
>>> >> > >> >> > > >
>>> >> > >> >> > > > Btw, I've already recompiled the kernel with v4l, pwc,
>>> >> > sn9c1xx.
>>> >> > >> >> I've
>>> >> > >> >> also
>>> >> > >> >> > > > updated the sn9c1xx driver to the latest 1.48 version
>>> and
>>> >> > made
>>> >> > >> a
>>> >> > >> >> few
>>> >> > >> >> > > > modifications.  However, embracing the wisdom of KISS,
>>> >> I've
>>> >> > >> just
>>> >> > >> >> ordered a
>>> >> > >> >> > > > Quickcam Pro 4000 (which I understand to be compatible
>>> >> with
>>> >> > the
>>> >> > >> >> pwc
>>> >> > >> >> driver
>>> >> > >> >> > > > in the kernel).  My goal is to be able to run the
>>> kernel
>>> I
>>> >> > have
>>> >> > >> >> now
>>> >> > >> >> (no
>>> >> > >> >> > > > further modifications) and achieve plug-and-play with
>>> the
>>> >> > >> webcam.
>>> >> > >> >> > > >
>>> >> > >> >> > > > James
>>> >> > >> >> > > >
>>> >> > >> >> > > > > Hi James,
>>> >> > >> >> > > > > I have done some work with a Verdex and a USB webcam
>>> and
>>> >> a
>>> >> >
>>> >> > >> >> Console
>>> >> > >> >> VX,
>>> >> > >> >> > > so
>>> >> > >> >> > > > > I'll try an give you a rundown of what I did.
>>> >> > >> >> > > > > I recompiled the kernel with video for linux
>>> support,
>>> >> and
>>> >> > >> >> enabled
>>> >> > >> >> the
>>> >> > >> >> > > usb
>>> >> > >> >> > > > > camera support as well.
>>> >> > >> >> > > > > I used buildroot to compile vidcat, which allowed me
>>> to
>>> >> > >> capture
>>> >> > >> >> still
>>> >> > >> >> > > > > images
>>> >> > >> >> > > > > in PNG and JPEG formats.
>>> >> > >> >> > > > > I haven't tried venturing into video streams yet,
>>> but
>>> I
>>> >> > would
>>> >> > >> be
>>> >> > >> >> > > > > interested
>>> >> > >> >> > > > > if you get things working.
>>> >> > >> >> > > > > I found a link in my research, maybe it will help
>>> you
>>> >> out:
>>> >> >
>>> >> > >> >> > > > > http://www.pabr.org/cfcam/doc/cfcam.en.html
>>> >> > >> >> > > > > Hope things turn out well.
>>> >> > >> >> > > > >
>>> >> > >> >> > > > >
>>> >> > >> >> > > > > 2007/7/23, 48...@la... <
>>> 48...@la...
>>> >> >:
>>> >> > >> >> > > > >>
>>> >> > >> >> > > > >> Dave,
>>> >> > >> >> > > > >>
>>> >> > >> >> > > > >> Oops.  Sorry.
>>> >> > >> >> > > > >>
>>> >> > >> >> > > > >> I must be getting bleed-through from the wifi
>>> effort
>>> >> that
>>> >> > >> >> preceeded
>>> >> > >> >> the
>>> >> > >> >> > > > >> webcam effort.
>>> >> > >> >> > > > >>
>>> >> > >> >> > > > >> But, hey, thanks for sharing the info on wifi!
>>> >> > >> >> > > > >>
>>> >> > >> >> > > > >> James
>>> >> > >> >> > > > >>
>>> >> > >> >> > > > >> > Hi James,
>>> >> > >> >> > > > >> >
>>> >> > >> >> > > > >> >> I've noticed that the Hylands brothers seem to
>>> have
>>> >> > been
>>> >> > >> >> successful
>>> >> > >> >> > > > >> but
>>> >> > >> >> > > > >> >> I
>>> >> > >> >> > > > >> >> haven't seen any posts where they discuss the
>>> >> > application
>>> >> > >> >> they
>>> >> > >> >> use,
>>> >> > >> >> > > > >> only
>>> >> > >> >> > > > >> >> the driver(s).
>>> >> > >> >> > > > >> >
>>> >> > >> >> > > > >> > Umm - we haven't done anything with webcam's,
>>> just
>>> >> wifi
>>> >> > >> >> dongles.
>>> >> > >> >> > > > >> >
>>> >> > >> >> > > > >> > --
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>>> >> > >> >> > > > >> > Vancouver, BC, Canada
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