From: John F. H. <joh...@ap...> - 2006-03-14 20:21:18
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Hi, Just received a daughter card with the 802.11g chip on it. The RF (antenna) connector is very small. Some questions: 1. What kind of RF connector is it? 2. Do you sell connectors, cables, antennas--or, do you have a recommended supplier? -- thanks, John H. ----------------------------- John Hubbard Apprion www.apprion.com ----------------------------- |
From: Craig H. <cr...@gu...> - 2006-03-14 20:39:13
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On Mar 14, 2006, at 12:20 PM, John F. Hubbard wrote: > 2. Do you sell connectors, cables, antennas--or, do you have a > recommended supplier? We don't even sell the 802.11g boards yet :) When we do, they'll come with an antenna, just as we do currently with the bluetooth boards. C |
From: Jay P. <ja...@bl...> - 2006-03-14 20:41:46
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I take it we can expect them soon then eh? :) -Jay On Tuesday 14 March 2006 15:38, Craig Hughes wrote: > On Mar 14, 2006, at 12:20 PM, John F. Hubbard wrote: > > 2. Do you sell connectors, cables, antennas--or, do you have a > > recommended supplier? > > We don't even sell the 802.11g boards yet :) > > When we do, they'll come with an antenna, just as we do currently > with the bluetooth boards. > > C > > > > ------------------------------------------------------- > This SF.Net email is sponsored by xPML, a groundbreaking scripting language > that extends applications into web and mobile media. Attend the live > webcast and join the prime developer group breaking into this new coding > territory! > http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnk&kid=110944&bid=241720&dat=121642 > _______________________________________________ > gumstix-users mailing list > gum...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/gumstix-users |
From: Craig H. <cr...@gu...> - 2006-03-14 21:39:32
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On Mar 14, 2006, at 12:42 PM, Jay Petersen wrote: > I take it we can expect them soon then eh? :) Well, right now, the biggest hurdle still left looks like getting Marvell to actually give us the linux driver which they say that they have... Basically the hurdle part is that we're dealing with a local rep for the taiwanese company which makes the modules based on the Marvell chip, so to talk to Marvell about this, we're going through 3 layers of indirection with timezone and language issues at each step. C |
From: Jay P. <ja...@bl...> - 2006-03-14 21:48:13
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hehe good luck. On Tuesday 14 March 2006 16:38, Craig Hughes wrote: > On Mar 14, 2006, at 12:42 PM, Jay Petersen wrote: > > I take it we can expect them soon then eh? :) > > Well, right now, the biggest hurdle still left looks like getting > Marvell to actually give us the linux driver which they say that they > have... Basically the hurdle part is that we're dealing with a local > rep for the taiwanese company which makes the modules based on the > Marvell chip, so to talk to Marvell about this, we're going through 3 > layers of indirection with timezone and language issues at each step. > > C > > > > ------------------------------------------------------- > This SF.Net email is sponsored by xPML, a groundbreaking scripting language > that extends applications into web and mobile media. Attend the live > webcast and join the prime developer group breaking into this new coding > territory! > http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnk&kid=110944&bid=241720&dat=121642 > _______________________________________________ > gumstix-users mailing list > gum...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/gumstix-users |
From: Philip T. (List) <ph...@te...> - 2006-03-14 22:26:07
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Guess all the cool things show up after you have come to a decision: http://www.engadget.com/2006/03/14/sharp-dc2j1dz115-worlds-smallest-wifi-module/ ;) On Tue, 2006-03-14 at 13:38 -0800, Craig Hughes wrote: > On Mar 14, 2006, at 12:42 PM, Jay Petersen wrote: > > > I take it we can expect them soon then eh? :) > > Well, right now, the biggest hurdle still left looks like getting > Marvell to actually give us the linux driver which they say that they > have... Basically the hurdle part is that we're dealing with a local > rep for the taiwanese company which makes the modules based on the > Marvell chip, so to talk to Marvell about this, we're going through 3 > layers of indirection with timezone and language issues at each step. > > C > > > > ------------------------------------------------------- > This SF.Net email is sponsored by xPML, a groundbreaking scripting language > that extends applications into web and mobile media. Attend the live webcast > and join the prime developer group breaking into this new coding territory! > http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnk&kid=110944&bid=241720&dat=121642 > _______________________________________________ > gumstix-users mailing list > gum...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/gumstix-users |
From: Craig H. <cr...@gu...> - 2006-03-14 22:50:22
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On Mar 14, 2006, at 2:25 PM, Philip Trickett (List) wrote: > Guess all the cool things show up after you have come to a decision: > http://www.engadget.com/2006/03/14/sharp-dc2j1dz115-worlds-smallest- > wifi-module/ The problem with about 99% of these tiny wifi modules is two things: 1. Availability of open-source drivers is very scarce. The current generation of wifi chipset makers don't seem to understand that people want the run wifi on devices with linux on them. Marvell seems to be about the only manufacturer who gets this, and even they seem to be having trouble getting the software out to those who want to buy their products, even though the code clearly exists with the right license and everything (see previous post about the code available at ftp://dlsvr01.asus.com/pub/ASUS/wireless/WL-530g/ GPL_1942.zip -- warning again: 300+MB zipfile there). 2. Module/chipset makers are very reluctant to actually sell product to anyone who isn't going to be either making cellphones, or selling 1,000,000,000,000+ units of whatever the final product is. Convincing these people that 100,000 units is something that they should even bother spending time on taking our money for is tough. The module we've ended up settling on seems to solve both these two problems, while still being nice and small. I'll post a picture of the board in a little bit once I can get a board near a digital camera -- but the wifi daughtercard we're creating will be 80mmx20mm, ie the same size as the gumstix itself. So the stack of gumstix+wifi daughtercard will look as sleek as the thumbstix+gumstix combo -- ie really really sleek (http://www.gumstix.com/gallery/ board_thumbstix.html). Actually, a bit sleeker, because it won't have that huge ugly USB male connector sticking out the end. C |
From: Philip T. (List) <ph...@te...> - 2006-03-15 07:30:16
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On Tue, 2006-03-14 at 14:49 -0800, Craig Hughes wrote: > On Mar 14, 2006, at 2:25 PM, Philip Trickett (List) wrote: > > > Guess all the cool things show up after you have come to a decision: > > http://www.engadget.com/2006/03/14/sharp-dc2j1dz115-worlds-smallest- > > wifi-module/ > > The problem with about 99% of these tiny wifi modules is two things: > > 1. Availability of open-source drivers is very scarce. The current > generation of wifi chipset makers don't seem to understand that > people want the run wifi on devices with linux on them. Marvell > seems to be about the only manufacturer who gets this, and even they > seem to be having trouble getting the software out to those who want > to buy their products, even though the code clearly exists with the > right license and everything (see previous post about the code > available at ftp://dlsvr01.asus.com/pub/ASUS/wireless/WL-530g/ > GPL_1942.zip -- warning again: 300+MB zipfile there). > > 2. Module/chipset makers are very reluctant to actually sell product > to anyone who isn't going to be either making cellphones, or selling > 1,000,000,000,000+ units of whatever the final product is. > Convincing these people that 100,000 units is something that they > should even bother spending time on taking our money for is tough. > > The module we've ended up settling on seems to solve both these two > problems, while still being nice and small. I'll post a picture of > the board in a little bit once I can get a board near a digital > camera -- but the wifi daughtercard we're creating will be 80mmx20mm, > ie the same size as the gumstix itself. So the stack of gumstix+wifi > daughtercard will look as sleek as the thumbstix+gumstix combo -- ie > really really sleek (http://www.gumstix.com/gallery/ > board_thumbstix.html). Actually, a bit sleeker, because it won't > have that huge ugly USB male connector sticking out the end. The board and module does sound good. It is good to see a manufacturer releasing the code, rather than relying on volunteers to write drivers to support the device. You wouldn't have a rough ETA on the board would you? ;) Phil |
From: John F. H. <joh...@ap...> - 2006-03-15 09:10:07
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Philip Trickett (List) wrote: > On Tue, 2006-03-14 at 14:49 -0800, Craig Hughes wrote: > >> On Mar 14, 2006, at 2:25 PM, Philip Trickett (List) wrote: >> >> >>> Guess all the cool things show up after you have come to a decision: >>> http://www.engadget.com/2006/03/14/sharp-dc2j1dz115-worlds-smallest- >>> wifi-module/ >>> >> The problem with about 99% of these tiny wifi modules is two things: >> >> 1. Availability of open-source drivers is very scarce. The current >> generation of wifi chipset makers don't seem to understand that >> people want the run wifi on devices with linux on them. Marvell >> seems to be about the only manufacturer who gets this, and even they >> seem to be having trouble getting the software out to those who want >> to buy their products, even though the code clearly exists with the >> right license and everything (see previous post about the code >> available at ftp://dlsvr01.asus.com/pub/ASUS/wireless/WL-530g/ >> GPL_1942.zip -- warning again: 300+MB zipfile there). >> >> 2. Module/chipset makers are very reluctant to actually sell product >> to anyone who isn't going to be either making cellphones, or selling >> 1,000,000,000,000+ units of whatever the final product is. >> Convincing these people that 100,000 units is something that they >> should even bother spending time on taking our money for is tough. >> >> The module we've ended up settling on seems to solve both these two >> problems, while still being nice and small. I'll post a picture of >> the board in a little bit once I can get a board near a digital >> camera -- but the wifi daughtercard we're creating will be 80mmx20mm, >> ie the same size as the gumstix itself. So the stack of gumstix+wifi >> daughtercard will look as sleek as the thumbstix+gumstix combo -- ie >> really really sleek (http://www.gumstix.com/gallery/ >> board_thumbstix.html). Actually, a bit sleeker, because it won't >> have that huge ugly USB male connector sticking out the end. >> > > > The board and module does sound good. It is good to see a manufacturer > releasing the code, rather than relying on volunteers to write drivers > to support the device. > > You wouldn't have a rough ETA on the board would you? ;) > > Phil > Sorry to let the cat out of the bag, about the prototype 802.11g board! --John H. |
From: Craig H. <cr...@gu...> - 2006-03-15 18:49:14
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On Mar 14, 2006, at 11:30 PM, Philip Trickett (List) wrote: > You wouldn't have a rough ETA on the board would you? ;) Very roughly? I'd guess at least 8 weeks -- mainly because we can't comfortably order parts (in minimum batches of 1,000 units) until we know for sure that the software is going to work; there's a lead time on the part delivery, and that lead time counter will only start ticking after we get the software and confirm it can work. And the ETA on turning around the chinese-whispers local rep->taiwan->marvell- >taiwan->local rep->gumstix process to get the actual code in our hands to work with is likely to take 2-3 weeks I'd guess, best case. I'm working hard on trying to bring that in, but I don't know how much can be done there. I found about 90% of the source code on another manufacturer's website where they're redistributing the GPL code that goes in their product -- but the source distribution they put together is not complete -- it's missing 4 or 5 key headers files, so we're back to needing those from Marvell. C |
From: Chuck C. <vap...@gm...> - 2006-04-17 22:54:56
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Will this board take the place of say a netCF? I'm willing to wait since it might take me 8-10 weeks to get wifi working any other way (no time/little experience). But I would also like to add storage. The perfect board (for me) would be a wifi/flash board. CF storage is nice but bulky. Or maybe a flash board with 92 pin hirose top and bottom to go between the gumstix and the wifi/whatever boards. Keep up the good work and good luck. Chuck On 3/15/06, Craig Hughes <cr...@gu...> wrote: > > On Mar 14, 2006, at 11:30 PM, Philip Trickett (List) wrote: > > > You wouldn't have a rough ETA on the board would you? ;) > > Very roughly? I'd guess at least 8 weeks -- mainly because we can't > comfortably order parts (in minimum batches of 1,000 units) until we > know for sure that the software is going to work; there's a lead time > on the part delivery, and that lead time counter will only start > ticking after we get the software and confirm it can work. And the > ETA on turning around the chinese-whispers local rep->taiwan->marvell- > >taiwan->local rep->gumstix process to get the actual code in our > hands to work with is likely to take 2-3 weeks I'd guess, best case. > I'm working hard on trying to bring that in, but I don't know how > much can be done there. I found about 90% of the source code on > another manufacturer's website where they're redistributing the GPL > code that goes in their product -- but the source distribution they > put together is not complete -- it's missing 4 or 5 key headers > files, so we're back to needing those from Marvell. > > C > > > > ------------------------------------------------------- > This SF.Net email is sponsored by xPML, a groundbreaking scripting > language > that extends applications into web and mobile media. Attend the live > webcast > and join the prime developer group breaking into this new coding > territory! > http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=3Dlnk&kid=3D110944&bid=3D241720&dat= =3D121642 > _______________________________________________ > gumstix-users mailing list > gum...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/gumstix-users > |
From: Craig H. <cr...@gu...> - 2006-04-18 17:17:44
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The first gen board will be wifi-only, where the wifi module is soldered onto the board but connected to the PXA "CF" lines. The daughtercard itself is gumstix-sized (80x20mm) which is nice and small compared to a CFstix (especially when you add a wifi CF card there). We are planning after we launch the first wifistix board to generate net-wifi and CF-wifi dual functionality boards. We have some interest also in wifi-wifi so we'll very likely be doing that as well. C On Apr 17, 2006, at 3:54 PM, Chuck Colht wrote: > Will this board take the place of say a netCF? I'm willing to wait > since it might take me 8-10 weeks to get wifi working any other way > (no time/little experience). But I would also like to add storage. > The perfect board (for me) would be a wifi/flash board. CF storage > is nice but bulky. Or maybe a flash board with 92 pin hirose top > and bottom to go between the gumstix and the wifi/whatever boards. > > Keep up the good work and good luck. > > Chuck > > On 3/15/06, Craig Hughes <cr...@gu...> wrote: > On Mar 14, 2006, at 11:30 PM, Philip Trickett (List) wrote: > > > You wouldn't have a rough ETA on the board would you? ;) > > Very roughly? I'd guess at least 8 weeks -- mainly because we can't > comfortably order parts (in minimum batches of 1,000 units) until we > know for sure that the software is going to work; there's a lead time > on the part delivery, and that lead time counter will only start > ticking after we get the software and confirm it can work. And the > ETA on turning around the chinese-whispers local rep->taiwan->marvell- > >taiwan->local rep->gumstix process to get the actual code in our > hands to work with is likely to take 2-3 weeks I'd guess, best case. > I'm working hard on trying to bring that in, but I don't know how > much can be done there. I found about 90% of the source code on > another manufacturer's website where they're redistributing the GPL > code that goes in their product -- but the source distribution they > put together is not complete -- it's missing 4 or 5 key headers > files, so we're back to needing those from Marvell. > > C > > > > ------------------------------------------------------- > This SF.Net email is sponsored by xPML, a groundbreaking scripting > language > that extends applications into web and mobile media. Attend the > live webcast > and join the prime developer group breaking into this new coding > territory! > http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel? > cmd=lnk&kid=110944&bid=241720&dat=121642 > _______________________________________________ > gumstix-users mailing list > gum...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/gumstix-users > |