From: pg <pg...@me...> - 2012-03-31 23:17:08
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Hi, I just got the Pinto-TH board. Bad mistake. It doesn't do anything. It doesn't have a console port, the connectors are scarce, it lacks many basic things, it doesn't have this, it doesn't have that, etc. So my question is; Why would anyone purchase the Pinto-TH board? What does it do? -- View this message in context: http://gumstix.8.n6.nabble.com/Whats-the-point-of-the-Pinto-TH-board-tp4675363p4675363.html Sent from the Gumstix mailing list archive at Nabble.com. |
From: Alex G. <al...@al...> - 2012-04-01 01:31:17
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On 1/04/2012 9:17 AM, pg wrote: > Hi, > > I just got the Pinto-TH board. Bad mistake. It doesn't do anything. It > doesn't have a console port, the connectors are scarce, it lacks many basic > things, it doesn't have this, it doesn't have that, etc. > > So my question is; > > Why would anyone purchase the Pinto-TH board? What does it do? If you need lots of io with level shifters. For prototyping but you don't want to go directly to the 70 pin connectors. Easy to breadboard if needed. You can add a serial connection for console but will need to modify u-boot parameters and recompile pins 17 and 18 on sv1 to a level shifter (1.8 to 3.3V or 5V) to a st232 or max232 for serial - rs232 or to a ftdi ft232B or ft232B for usb or Silabs cp2102 see http://pubs.gumstix.com/boards/PINTO-TH/PCB30011-R2731/PCB30011.pdf sparkfun and others sell modules e.g level shifter http://www.sparkfun.com/products/8745 usb to serial http://www.sparkfun.com/products/718 http://www.sparkfun.com/products/8551 http://www.sparkfun.com/products/8531 http://www.sparkfun.com/products/198 Can also use the sensor and other breakouts to easily connect http://www.sparkfun.com/categories/20 Alex |
From: pg <pg...@me...> - 2012-04-01 14:04:21
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Alright, that stuff is way too advanced for me. Here's a better question: what does the USB port on the Pinto-TH board do? -- View this message in context: http://gumstix.8.n6.nabble.com/Whats-the-point-of-the-Pinto-TH-board-tp4675363p4676508.html Sent from the Gumstix mailing list archive at Nabble.com. |
From: William P. S. <bil...@xp...> - 2012-04-01 14:53:30
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I gotta ask this on behalf of the group ... What is you background? Electrical Engineering ? Software Engineering ? Hobbiest ? It will be a lot easier to answer your questions if you tell us. IMHO you need to gain some experience in embedded hardware and software design ... Bill -----Original Message----- From: pg [mailto:pg...@me...] Sent: Sunday, April 01, 2012 10:04 AM To: gum...@li... Subject: Re: [Gumstix-users] Whats the point of the Pinto-TH board? Alright, that stuff is way too advanced for me. Here's a better question: what does the USB port on the Pinto-TH board do? -- View this message in context: http://gumstix.8.n6.nabble.com/Whats-the-point-of-the-Pinto-TH-board-tp46753 63p4676508.html Sent from the Gumstix mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- -- This SF email is sponsosred by: Try Windows Azure free for 90 days Click Here http://p.sf.net/sfu/sfd2d-msazure _______________________________________________ gumstix-users mailing list gum...@li... https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/gumstix-users ----- No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2012.0.1913 / Virus Database: 2114/4908 - Release Date: 04/01/12 |
From: Greg K. <gk...@ya...> - 2012-04-01 14:09:36
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>Here's a better question: what does the USB port on the Pinto-TH board do? It's an OTG port, just like on the Tobi. Talk to devices, etc. Greg |
From: pg <pg...@me...> - 2012-04-01 14:13:07
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Then how come when I plug it into my computer nothing works? -- View this message in context: http://gumstix.8.n6.nabble.com/Whats-the-point-of-the-Pinto-TH-board-tp4675363p4676516.html Sent from the Gumstix mailing list archive at Nabble.com. |
From: pg <pg...@me...> - 2012-04-01 15:25:55
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Hobbiest/sofware engineering. I can't gain experience if there are no ways to gain experience. I want to hook up the Pinto-TH board to my computer. It has an IronSTORM COM on it. Is this possible? -- View this message in context: http://gumstix.8.n6.nabble.com/Whats-the-point-of-the-Pinto-TH-board-tp4675363p4676640.html Sent from the Gumstix mailing list archive at Nabble.com. |
From: William P. S. <bil...@xp...> - 2012-04-01 15:36:31
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Ok Here is what I would suggest. 1) If you don't have one already, get a "Tobi" board from Gumstix. It has HDMI out plus a 10/100 LAN port. 2) Get Steve Sakoman's "Desktop" image. The desktop image is a GUI that uses a keyboard and a mouse and has the look and feel of a Linux desk top. Steve has a script that will build a bootable uSD card for you on his site (sakoman.com?) 3) Now you have a "development system" that you can work with. 4) When you feel that you are more advanced, build a "console" image using Steve's script again. 5) Run your favorite terminal program on your computer to talk to the console image via a "virtual USB Serial port". IMHO The pinto is kind of the deep end of the pool :-) Good Luck -----Original Message----- From: pg [mailto:pg...@me...] Sent: Sunday, April 01, 2012 11:26 AM To: gum...@li... Subject: Re: [Gumstix-users] Whats the point of the Pinto-TH board? Hobbiest/sofware engineering. I can't gain experience if there are no ways to gain experience. I want to hook up the Pinto-TH board to my computer. It has an IronSTORM COM on it. Is this possible? -- View this message in context: http://gumstix.8.n6.nabble.com/Whats-the-point-of-the-Pinto-TH-board-tp46753 63p4676640.html Sent from the Gumstix mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- -- This SF email is sponsosred by: Try Windows Azure free for 90 days Click Here http://p.sf.net/sfu/sfd2d-msazure _______________________________________________ gumstix-users mailing list gum...@li... https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/gumstix-users ----- No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2012.0.1913 / Virus Database: 2114/4908 - Release Date: 04/01/12 |
From: Rich M. <ric...@gm...> - 2012-04-01 15:40:43
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The easiest way to interact with it like you want could be to get the image to load something like the g_ether kernel module, which will make your USB OTG look like a USB ethernet device. Something like modprobe g_ether && ifconfig usb0 <priv ip> Then on host side (PC) you will see a Usb0 as well which you can assign another IP and SSH in. You can even provide a network to your gumstix this way by setting up a NAT on the host and doing appropriate changes to /etc/resolv.conf on device side. Alternatively you can use the g_serial module and put a getty on it (ttyGS0) to login and get shell access. The trick will be changing your current boot image to do this; are you using an SD to boot or are you using the NAND image that came with the device? -- Rich On Apr 1, 2012, at 11:25 AM, pg <pg...@me...> wrote: > Hobbiest/sofware engineering. I can't gain experience if there are no ways > to gain experience. > > I want to hook up the Pinto-TH board to my computer. It has an IronSTORM COM > on it. Is this possible? > > -- > View this message in context: http://gumstix.8.n6.nabble.com/Whats-the-point-of-the-Pinto-TH-board-tp4675363p4676640.html > Sent from the Gumstix mailing list archive at Nabble.com. > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > This SF email is sponsosred by: > Try Windows Azure free for 90 days Click Here > http://p.sf.net/sfu/sfd2d-msazure > _______________________________________________ > gumstix-users mailing list > gum...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/gumstix-users |
From: pg <pg...@me...> - 2012-04-01 16:08:23
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I just bought a gumstix IronSTORM COM and Pinto-TH. I have an SD card I tried to format, but I don't think It worked. I'll try sakomans sd card script and see how that goes. The Ethernet-over USB trick sounds good if I knew what to do. Honestly, all I have done was taken these products out of the box. How do I change the boot image? -- View this message in context: http://gumstix.8.n6.nabble.com/Whats-the-point-of-the-Pinto-TH-board-tp4675363p4676728.html Sent from the Gumstix mailing list archive at Nabble.com. |
From: Steve S. <sa...@gm...> - 2012-04-01 16:20:21
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On Sat, Mar 31, 2012 at 4:17 PM, pg <pg...@me...> wrote: > Hi, > > I just got the Pinto-TH board. Bad mistake. It doesn't do anything. It > doesn't have a console port, the connectors are scarce, it lacks many basic > things, it doesn't have this, it doesn't have that, etc. If you don't mind working with experimental code, you can try some pre-built images that might let you get some use out of your Pinto or Thumbo (I've tested primarily with Thumbo) I have a script that will create a bootable microSD with pre-built binaries from my autobuilder. You can download it here: http://feeds.sakoman.com/feeds/yocto/images/omap3-multi/current/ Download mksdcard.sh, and make it executable with 'chmod +x mksdcard.sh'. Then plug a microSD card into your development machine, note where it mounts, and execute the script like so: sudo ./mksdcard.sh /dev/sdd overo usb-gadget-multi-getty On my machine the microSD cards mount at /dev/sdd, substitute the proper device for your machine. Be careful to get this right. DO NOT SPECIFY THE DRIVE WITH YOUR PC's ROOTFS!! You have been warned -- very bad things would happen!! The script will partition and format the microSD card, download all the appropriate binaries from my site, and properly set up the boot and rootfs partitions. At the end of the process you'll see messages like: Populating boot partition files Boot partition complete Populating rootfs partition files This will take several minutes . . . Rootfs partition complete SD card creation was successful At that point you can remove the microSD card from your dev machine, insert it into the slot on your Overo and then plug the Thumbo into your dev machine. You should see the red LED begin to flash after a bit, which indicates that the kernel is running and has configured it with a heartbeat trigger. The blue LED nearest the center of the board is a microSD indicator (flashes when r/w accesses occur) and the blue LED nearest the edge of the board indicates that wifi has associated with an access point. The green LED in the center is a power indicator. This image sets up the multi gadget, which gives you a mass storage device (which should auto-mount with the name GadgetStore), an ethernet device which bridges to the wifi module on the Overo, and a serial device which has getty running on it for a console session. The serial device should show up as /dev/ttyACM0 on your dev machine -- I typically connect using kermit at 115200 baud. Wifi on the Overo should automatically associate with any open network. Understand that these images are not supported unless you are a consulting client. I'm happy to make them available for people who have the skills to use of them, but sadly don't have time to do a lot of free support. Steve |
From: pg <pg...@me...> - 2012-04-01 16:49:48
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Do you recommend I do this on Linux, Mac, or Windows? -- View this message in context: http://gumstix.8.n6.nabble.com/Whats-the-point-of-the-Pinto-TH-board-tp4675363p4676798.html Sent from the Gumstix mailing list archive at Nabble.com. |
From: Steve S. <sa...@gm...> - 2012-04-01 16:57:44
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On Sun, Apr 1, 2012 at 9:49 AM, pg <pg...@me...> wrote: > Do you recommend I do this on Linux, Mac, or Windows? Only Linux! If you are a beginner and confused by all this, then I suspect that starting with Pinto falls in the category of "a really bad idea"! Pinto and Thumbo are intended for experienced embedded Linux developers and are likely to cause newbies endless unnecessary grief. Steve |
From: William P. S. <bil...@xp...> - 2012-04-01 17:02:11
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What ever you feel the most comfortable with :-) Personally I would recommend Linux and the Overo OE. Be prepared for a certain amount of pain when building the OE (404 errors are normal!) Hope I've been some help ... -----Original Message----- From: pg [mailto:pg...@me...] Sent: Sunday, April 01, 2012 12:50 PM To: gum...@li... Subject: Re: [Gumstix-users] Whats the point of the Pinto-TH board? Do you recommend I do this on Linux, Mac, or Windows? -- View this message in context: http://gumstix.8.n6.nabble.com/Whats-the-point-of-the-Pinto-TH-board-tp46753 63p4676798.html Sent from the Gumstix mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- -- This SF email is sponsosred by: Try Windows Azure free for 90 days Click Here http://p.sf.net/sfu/sfd2d-msazure _______________________________________________ gumstix-users mailing list gum...@li... https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/gumstix-users ----- No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2012.0.1913 / Virus Database: 2114/4908 - Release Date: 04/01/12 |
From: pg <pg...@me...> - 2012-04-29 22:12:17
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OK, I finally figured out what I am doing and how to use this thing. I managed to connect 5v and GND to boot the Pinto. The only problems now are that a) only the green light on the IronSTORM goes on. None of the other lights ever turn on, including the red and blue as mentioned. b) Nothing shows up in my device manager as detailed in (http://gumstix.org/connect-to-my-gumstix-system.html). and finally c) I learned that the Pinto-TH ONLY has a USB OTG. That may or may not affect the use of serial/console. 3 issues that cause the whole thing to not function. Besides that, it works as a great SD card holder. -- View this message in context: http://gumstix.8.n6.nabble.com/Whats-the-point-of-the-Pinto-TH-board-tp4675363p4939442.html Sent from the Gumstix mailing list archive at Nabble.com. |
From: pg <pg...@me...> - 2012-04-29 22:12:13
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OK, I finally figured out what I am doing and how to use this thing. I managed to connect 5v and GND to boot the Pinto. The only problems now are that a) only the green light on the IronSTORM goes on. None of the other lights ever turn on, including the red and blue as mentioned. b) Nothing shows up in my device manager as detailed in (http://gumstix.org/connect-to-my-gumstix-system.html). and finally c) I learned that the Pinto-TH ONLY has a USB OTG. That may or may not affect the use of serial/console. 3 issues that cause the whole thing to not function. Besides that, it works as a great SD card holder. -- View this message in context: http://gumstix.8.n6.nabble.com/Whats-the-point-of-the-Pinto-TH-board-tp4675363p4939441.html Sent from the Gumstix mailing list archive at Nabble.com. |
From: Rich M. <ric...@gm...> - 2012-04-29 23:43:38
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Get a Tobi board and stop fooling yourself. The board you are using is best when you have already got a working image with a use case where the single USB OTG port is what's needed. Otherwise just make sure that at boot the SD image is set to load the g_ether gadget with a static IP or use a g_serial gadget at boot and put an agetty on it in. /etc/inittab. But please, consider spending the money on the Tobi, you will have a working serial console from boot and you will realize the challenges you placed on yourself using Pinto as first exp board. -- Rich On Apr 29, 2012, at 6:12 PM, pg <pg...@me...> wrote: > OK, I finally figured out what I am doing and how to use this thing. I > managed to connect 5v and GND to boot the Pinto. The only problems now are > that a) only the green light on the IronSTORM goes on. None of the other > lights ever turn on, including the red and blue as mentioned. > b) Nothing shows up in my device manager as detailed in > (http://gumstix.org/connect-to-my-gumstix-system.html). > and finally c) I learned that the Pinto-TH ONLY has a USB OTG. That may or > may not affect the use of serial/console. > > 3 issues that cause the whole thing to not function. > > Besides that, it works as a great SD card holder. > > -- > View this message in context: http://gumstix.8.n6.nabble.com/Whats-the-point-of-the-Pinto-TH-board-tp4675363p4939441.html > Sent from the Gumstix mailing list archive at Nabble.com. > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Live Security Virtual Conference > Exclusive live event will cover all the ways today's security and > threat landscape has changed and how IT managers can respond. Discussions > will include endpoint security, mobile security and the latest in malware > threats. http://www.accelacomm.com/jaw/sfrnl04242012/114/50122263/ > _______________________________________________ > gumstix-users mailing list > gum...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/gumstix-users |
From: pg <pg...@me...> - 2012-04-30 21:11:16
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I have no problem with getting a Tobi board. I would purchase one right now. The only problem is that I am not sure that if I buy a Tobi board all my problems would go away? -- View this message in context: http://gumstix.8.n6.nabble.com/Whats-the-point-of-the-Pinto-TH-board-tp4675363p4942030.html Sent from the Gumstix mailing list archive at Nabble.com. |
From: Rich M. <ric...@gm...> - 2012-04-30 21:36:19
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I can't say all, but the barrier to entry would be substantially better. You would at least be able to see/debug why your image isn't booting fully, or maybe that it is but just not loading the right drivers. -- Rich On Apr 30, 2012, at 4:54 PM, pg <pg...@me...> wrote: > I have no problem with getting a Tobi board. I would purchase one right now. > The only problem is that I am not sure that if I buy a Tobi board all my > problems would go away? > > -- > View this message in context: http://gumstix.8.n6.nabble.com/Whats-the-point-of-the-Pinto-TH-board-tp4675363p4942030.html > Sent from the Gumstix mailing list archive at Nabble.com. > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Live Security Virtual Conference > Exclusive live event will cover all the ways today's security and > threat landscape has changed and how IT managers can respond. Discussions > will include endpoint security, mobile security and the latest in malware > threats. http://www.accelacomm.com/jaw/sfrnl04242012/114/50122263/ > _______________________________________________ > gumstix-users mailing list > gum...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/gumstix-users |