From: J.P. N. <jn...@pr...> - 2006-02-07 22:32:26
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OLED:=20 pros - fast response time, high brightness cons - still not fully sunlight readable, still "high" power, short lifespan "E Ink" pros - ultra-low power consumption, fully sunlight readable cons - not readable in the dark, slow response time There is at least one competitor to Eink (can't remember the name -- based in CA), and this is good, since getting technology -- or even datasheets -- from Philips can be difficult (even if you or your company buys a lot of stuff from them). Eink was absorbed by Philips years ago, and have a rollable display in a quietly released Philips commercial handheld product that uses the gumstix. (!) But you're never going to see that driver code available, even for licensing. -----Original Message----- From: gum...@li... [mailto:gum...@li...] On Behalf Of Matt Riddell (IT) Sent: Tuesday, February 07, 2006 17:07 To: gum...@li... Subject: Re: [Gumstix-users] [Gumstix-users]Flexible OLED Display Keith Olson wrote: > Now wouldn't /this/ make for an interesting display: > http://www.universaldisplay.com/concepts.htm I don't understand why it's better than the upcoming colour version of: http://www.eink.com/technology/flexible.html -- Cheers, Matt Riddell _______________________________________________ http://www.sineapps.com/news.php (Daily Asterisk News - html) http://freevoip.gedameurope.com (Free Asterisk Voip Community) http://www.sineapps.com/rssfeed.php (Daily Asterisk News - rss) ------------------------------------------------------- This SF.net email is sponsored by: Splunk Inc. Do you grep through log files for problems? Stop! Download the new AJAX search engine that makes searching your log files as easy as surfing the web. DOWNLOAD SPLUNK! http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=3Dlnk&kid=3D103432&bid=3D230486&dat=3D= 121642 _______________________________________________ gumstix-users mailing list gum...@li... https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/gumstix-users |
From: Holly G. <hgates@EINK.com> - 2006-02-08 15:07:49
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Maybe not totally on topic for the list here, but for anyone with an interest, let me straighten out this story a little bit: >There is at least one competitor to Eink (can't remember the name -- >based in CA), and this is good, since getting technology -- or even >datasheets -- from Philips can be difficult (even if you or your company >buys a lot of stuff from them). Eink was absorbed by Philips years ago, >and have a rollable display in a quietly released Philips commercial >handheld product that uses the gumstix. (!) But you're never going to >see that driver code available, even for licensing. > > E Ink is a private company, and is not a part of Philips. A few years ago, we formed a partnership with Philips to commercialize glass based active matrix panels based on E Ink technology; the direct result of that partership was the 6" svga display that went into the Sony Librie ebook. About a year ago, Philips decided to sell off its E Ink related business (part of its mass selloff of many businesses including OLED displays and now semiconductors). This business was purchased by PVI, a Taiwanese display maker. We now have a partnership with PVI to develop and commercialize glass based active matrix displays based on E Ink, with PVI also now making the 6" svga panel for Sony and the market in general. This is the panel that is in our developers kit (which also uses a gumstix): http://www. eink.com/kits/ We will also be bringing out new sizes through PVI, but for now the 6" is the only one in mass production. In a totally separate category, we are also working with the world's foremost players in flexible active matrix backplanes to make progress towards flexible displays. One company in this category with very impressive technology is a firm called Polymer Vision, which is a Philips spinoff: http://www.polymervision.com Not sure if they are still officially part of Philips or not; perhaps someone from PV can elaborate? Polymer Vision is responsible for the very cool functional roll out screen demo seen at various trade shows: http://www.polymervision.com/ProductsApplications/Enterprise/Index.html That demo uses their flexible active matrix backplane coupled with an E Ink frontplane. Hope that clarifies things for you... -Holly Gates Senior Hardware Engineer E Ink Corporation > > >-----Original Message----- >From: gum...@li... >[mailto:gum...@li...] On Behalf Of Matt >Riddell (IT) >Sent: Tuesday, February 07, 2006 17:07 >To: gum...@li... >Subject: Re: [Gumstix-users] [Gumstix-users]Flexible OLED Display > >Keith Olson wrote: > > >>Now wouldn't /this/ make for an interesting display: >>http://www.universaldisplay.com/concepts.htm >> >> > >I don't understand why it's better than the upcoming colour version of: > >http://www.eink.com/technology/flexible.html > >-- >Cheers, > >Matt Riddell >_______________________________________________ > >http://www.sineapps.com/news.php (Daily Asterisk News - html) >http://freevoip.gedameurope.com (Free Asterisk Voip Community) >http://www.sineapps.com/rssfeed.php (Daily Asterisk News - rss) > > >------------------------------------------------------- >This SF.net email is sponsored by: Splunk Inc. Do you grep through log >files for problems? Stop! Download the new AJAX search engine that >makes searching your log files as easy as surfing the web. DOWNLOAD >SPLUNK! >http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnk&kid=103432&bid=230486&dat=121642 >_______________________________________________ >gumstix-users mailing list >gum...@li... >https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/gumstix-users > > > > >------------------------------------------------------- >This SF.net email is sponsored by: Splunk Inc. Do you grep through log files >for problems? Stop! Download the new AJAX search engine that makes >searching your log files as easy as surfing the web. DOWNLOAD SPLUNK! >http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=k&kid3432&bid#0486&dat1642 >_______________________________________________ >gumstix-users mailing list >gum...@li... >https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/gumstix-users > > |
From: Nik M. <add...@gm...> - 2006-02-08 15:13:19
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From: J.P. N. <jn...@pr...> - 2006-02-08 15:52:17
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Thanks for clearing this up. I've been a fan of Eink since day one, and am glad to see that there is now progress towards OEM products. You may also have guessed my feelings about Philips, which I probably shouldn't continue expanding on in a public forum. . .=20 Cheers, JP Norair =20 -----Original Message----- From: gum...@li... [mailto:gum...@li...] On Behalf Of Holly Gates Sent: Wednesday, February 08, 2006 11:01 To: gum...@li... Subject: Re: [Gumstix-users] Flexible OLED Display Maybe not totally on topic for the list here, but for anyone with an interest, let me straighten out this story a little bit: >There is at least one competitor to Eink (can't remember the name --=20 >based in CA), and this is good, since getting technology -- or even=20 >datasheets -- from Philips can be difficult (even if you or your=20 >company buys a lot of stuff from them). Eink was absorbed by Philips=20 >years ago, and have a rollable display in a quietly released Philips=20 >commercial handheld product that uses the gumstix. (!) But you're=20 >never going to see that driver code available, even for licensing. > =20 > E Ink is a private company, and is not a part of Philips. A few years ago, we formed a partnership with Philips to commercialize glass based active matrix panels based on E Ink technology; the direct result of that partership was the 6" svga display that went into the Sony Librie ebook. About a year ago, Philips decided to sell off its E Ink related business (part of its mass selloff of many businesses including OLED displays and now semiconductors). This business was purchased by PVI, a Taiwanese display maker. We now have a partnership with PVI to develop and commercialize glass based active matrix displays based on E Ink, with PVI also now making the 6" svga panel for Sony and the market in general. This is the panel that is in our developers kit (which also uses a gumstix): http://www. eink.com/kits/ We will also be bringing out new sizes through PVI, but for now the 6" is the only one in mass production. In a totally separate category, we are also working with the world's foremost players in flexible active matrix backplanes to make progress towards flexible displays. One company in this category with very impressive technology is a firm called Polymer Vision, which is a Philips spinoff: http://www.polymervision.com Not sure if they are still officially part of Philips or not; perhaps someone from PV can elaborate? Polymer Vision is responsible for the very cool functional roll out screen demo seen at various trade shows: http://www.polymervision.com/ProductsApplications/Enterprise/Index.html That demo uses their flexible active matrix backplane coupled with an E Ink frontplane. Hope that clarifies things for you... -Holly Gates Senior Hardware Engineer E Ink Corporation > > >-----Original Message----- >From: gum...@li... >[mailto:gum...@li...] On Behalf Of Matt=20 >Riddell (IT) >Sent: Tuesday, February 07, 2006 17:07 >To: gum...@li... >Subject: Re: [Gumstix-users] [Gumstix-users]Flexible OLED Display > >Keith Olson wrote: > =20 > >>Now wouldn't /this/ make for an interesting display: >>http://www.universaldisplay.com/concepts.htm >> =20 >> > >I don't understand why it's better than the upcoming colour version of: > >http://www.eink.com/technology/flexible.html > >-- >Cheers, > >Matt Riddell >_______________________________________________ > >http://www.sineapps.com/news.php (Daily Asterisk News - html)=20 >http://freevoip.gedameurope.com (Free Asterisk Voip Community)=20 >http://www.sineapps.com/rssfeed.php (Daily Asterisk News - rss) > > >------------------------------------------------------- >This SF.net email is sponsored by: Splunk Inc. Do you grep through log=20 >files for problems? Stop! Download the new AJAX search engine that=20 >makes searching your log files as easy as surfing the web. DOWNLOAD=20 >SPLUNK! >http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=3Dlnk&kid=3D103432&bid=3D230486&dat=3D= 12164 >2 _______________________________________________ >gumstix-users mailing list >gum...@li... >https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/gumstix-users > > > > >------------------------------------------------------- >This SF.net email is sponsored by: Splunk Inc. Do you grep through log files >for problems? Stop! Download the new AJAX search engine that makes=20 >searching your log files as easy as surfing the web. DOWNLOAD SPLUNK! >http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=3Dk&kid=103432&bid#0486&dat=121642 >_______________________________________________ >gumstix-users mailing list >gum...@li... >https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/gumstix-users > =20 > ------------------------------------------------------- This SF.net email is sponsored by: Splunk Inc. Do you grep through log files for problems? Stop! Download the new AJAX search engine that makes searching your log files as easy as surfing the web. DOWNLOAD SPLUNK! http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=3Dlnk&kid=3D103432&bid=3D230486&dat=3D= 121642 _______________________________________________ gumstix-users mailing list gum...@li... https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/gumstix-users |
From: Serge S. <se...@so...> - 2006-02-08 10:17:27
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Hello, > handheld product that uses the gumstix. (!) But you're never going to > see that driver code available, even for licensing. Thats not true, if I remember correctly the code and even the schematics for the daughter board were made available on this forum. Serge J.P. Norair wrote: > OLED: > pros - fast response time, high brightness > cons - still not fully sunlight readable, still "high" power, short > lifespan > > "E Ink" > pros - ultra-low power consumption, fully sunlight readable > cons - not readable in the dark, slow response time > > There is at least one competitor to Eink (can't remember the name -- > based in CA), and this is good, since getting technology -- or even > datasheets -- from Philips can be difficult (even if you or your company > buys a lot of stuff from them). Eink was absorbed by Philips years ago, > and have a rollable display in a quietly released Philips commercial > handheld product that uses the gumstix. (!) But you're never going to > see that driver code available, even for licensing. > > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: gum...@li... > [mailto:gum...@li...] On Behalf Of Matt > Riddell (IT) > Sent: Tuesday, February 07, 2006 17:07 > To: gum...@li... > Subject: Re: [Gumstix-users] [Gumstix-users]Flexible OLED Display > > Keith Olson wrote: > >>Now wouldn't /this/ make for an interesting display: >>http://www.universaldisplay.com/concepts.htm > > > I don't understand why it's better than the upcoming colour version of: > > http://www.eink.com/technology/flexible.html > > -- > Cheers, > > Matt Riddell > _______________________________________________ > > http://www.sineapps.com/news.php (Daily Asterisk News - html) > http://freevoip.gedameurope.com (Free Asterisk Voip Community) > http://www.sineapps.com/rssfeed.php (Daily Asterisk News - rss) > > > ------------------------------------------------------- > This SF.net email is sponsored by: Splunk Inc. Do you grep through log > files for problems? Stop! Download the new AJAX search engine that > makes searching your log files as easy as surfing the web. DOWNLOAD > SPLUNK! > http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnk&kid=103432&bid=230486&dat=121642 > _______________________________________________ > gumstix-users mailing list > gum...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/gumstix-users > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------- > This SF.net email is sponsored by: Splunk Inc. Do you grep through log files > for problems? Stop! Download the new AJAX search engine that makes > searching your log files as easy as surfing the web. DOWNLOAD SPLUNK! > http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=k&kid3432&bid#0486&dat1642 > _______________________________________________ > gumstix-users mailing list > gum...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/gumstix-users |