From: Drew <dr...@dr...> - 2008-08-11 08:37:15
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I'm still a bit flakey about how this qtopia thing works and as I have a 18bit board this the route I want to take. What exactly do I need to get the whole system running like I see on modified Linux mobile's like I've seen on youtube. Is there a recent guide for getting this all working and does anyone have any general input on their experiences using Qtopia, how well does it work on the gumstix etc? Regards, Drew |
From: Pete <pe...@pu...> - 2008-08-11 09:59:20
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Qtopia is just a framework. It's not a complete mobile solution. So, assuming you get it up and running, you still need to either find and manage the apps or write them yourself. I think most of those youtube videos are based off of pre-existing work, such as the Zaurus project or somesuch. You can't use any that I'm aware of on the gumstix, but that might not be true anymore, not sure. That said, Qtopia works great on the gumstix. I have the 16bit board, and have used it to great success for several prototypes I've been doing. Start with the wiki for a good howto. http://gumstix.net/wiki/index.php?title=Qtopia_platform_howto It's not perfect, but does work to get one started. Then I suggest using nabble.com to search the archives. QT is discussed ad nauseum on this list, so you're sure to find posts similar to your needs in the past. Drew wrote: > > I’m still a bit flakey about how this qtopia thing works and as I have > a 18bit board this the route I want to take. > > What exactly do I need to get the whole system running like I see on > modified Linux mobile’s like I’ve seen on youtube. > > Is there a recent guide for getting this all working and does anyone > have any general input on their experiences using Qtopia, how well > does it work on the gumstix etc? > > Regards, > > Drew > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------- > This SF.Net email is sponsored by the Moblin Your Move Developer's challenge > Build the coolest Linux based applications with Moblin SDK & win great prizes > Grand prize is a trip for two to an Open Source event anywhere in the world > http://moblin-contest.org/redirect.php?banner_id=100&url=/ > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > _______________________________________________ > gumstix-users mailing list > gum...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/gumstix-users > |
From: Drew <dr...@dr...> - 2008-08-11 10:52:10
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Thanks for the reply Pete. I was looking for a complete solution really, like the openmoko and such devices, they all seem to be using the same thing, which I thought was simply Qtopia (Phone Edition?) and which you can put onto the gumstix and have a full system right out of the box? Regards, Drew -----Original Message----- From: gum...@li... [mailto:gum...@li...] On Behalf Of Pete Sent: 11 August 2008 10:59 To: General mailing list for gumstix users. Subject: Re: [Gumstix-users] Best guide for getting Qtopia working on Gumstix Qtopia is just a framework. It's not a complete mobile solution. So, assuming you get it up and running, you still need to either find and manage the apps or write them yourself. I think most of those youtube videos are based off of pre-existing work, such as the Zaurus project or somesuch. You can't use any that I'm aware of on the gumstix, but that might not be true anymore, not sure. That said, Qtopia works great on the gumstix. I have the 16bit board, and have used it to great success for several prototypes I've been doing. Start with the wiki for a good howto. http://gumstix.net/wiki/index.php?title=Qtopia_platform_howto It's not perfect, but does work to get one started. Then I suggest using nabble.com to search the archives. QT is discussed ad nauseum on this list, so you're sure to find posts similar to your needs in the past. Drew wrote: > > I'm still a bit flakey about how this qtopia thing works and as I have > a 18bit board this the route I want to take. > > What exactly do I need to get the whole system running like I see on > modified Linux mobile's like I've seen on youtube. > > Is there a recent guide for getting this all working and does anyone > have any general input on their experiences using Qtopia, how well > does it work on the gumstix etc? > > Regards, > > Drew > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------- > This SF.Net email is sponsored by the Moblin Your Move Developer's challenge > Build the coolest Linux based applications with Moblin SDK & win great prizes > Grand prize is a trip for two to an Open Source event anywhere in the world > http://moblin-contest.org/redirect.php?banner_id=100&url=/ > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > _______________________________________________ > gumstix-users mailing list > gum...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/gumstix-users > ------------------------------------------------------------------------- This SF.Net email is sponsored by the Moblin Your Move Developer's challenge Build the coolest Linux based applications with Moblin SDK & win great prizes Grand prize is a trip for two to an Open Source event anywhere in the world http://moblin-contest.org/redirect.php?banner_id=100&url=/ _______________________________________________ gumstix-users mailing list gum...@li... https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/gumstix-users |
From: Pete <pe...@pu...> - 2008-08-11 10:58:31
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Sadly, no. Those projects have put an enormous amount of effort into their apps and working setup. QT is just the framework by which that is made possible (or DirectFB, tiny-X, etc...). If you are not afraid of some amount of work, it is probably possible (not trivially though) to get the Zaurus or OpenMoko packages to build against the gumstix. However, none of the GUI frameworks come with preset touchscreen PDA functionality available, that's all add on and creation. Drew wrote: > Thanks for the reply Pete. I was looking for a complete solution really, > like the openmoko and such devices, they all seem to be using the same > thing, which I thought was simply Qtopia (Phone Edition?) and which you can > put onto the gumstix and have a full system right out of the box? > > Regards, > Drew > |
From: Tom C. <tho...@tr...> - 2008-08-14 14:47:42
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On Monday 11 August 2008 11:59:22 Pete wrote: > Qtopia is just a framework. It's not a complete mobile solution. I'm affraid it's the other way round. Qtopia _is_ a complete mobile solution, it is built on top of "Qt for Embedded Linux", formally Qtopia Core, formally Qt/Embedded. Please blame our marketing department for the confusion! Qtopia Phone Eddition is probably what you want to look at. It includes all the applications and libraries you'd need on a phone. Alternetively there's Qtopia Platform Edition, which is basically just the launcher and a few libraries. If you want to go "hard core", you can just use Qt for Embedded Linux and not use anything in Qtopia at all. Think of Qtopia as KDE for phones - a mixture of desktop, applications & libraries. Cheers, Tom PS: I'm a "Qt for Embedded Linux" developer... I don't know a huge amount about any of the Qtopia flavors. |
From: Drew <dr...@dr...> - 2008-08-14 16:13:22
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Tom, you've just put a smile on my face :D After that reply I received the other day I simply lost all hope of having a mobile device I could (visually) play around with. I was hoping to get the goliath and mix this together with the Qtopia applications I've been seeing ever where, was pretty gutted when I found out I couldn't do it :( Thanks for clearing things up for me. The adventure continues! :D Regards, Drew -----Original Message----- From: gum...@li... [mailto:gum...@li...] On Behalf Of Tom Cooksey Sent: 14 August 2008 16:48 To: gum...@li... Subject: Re: [Gumstix-users] Best guide for getting Qtopia working on Gumstix On Monday 11 August 2008 11:59:22 Pete wrote: > Qtopia is just a framework. It's not a complete mobile solution. I'm affraid it's the other way round. Qtopia _is_ a complete mobile solution, it is built on top of "Qt for Embedded Linux", formally Qtopia Core, formally Qt/Embedded. Please blame our marketing department for the confusion! Qtopia Phone Eddition is probably what you want to look at. It includes all the applications and libraries you'd need on a phone. Alternetively there's Qtopia Platform Edition, which is basically just the launcher and a few libraries. If you want to go "hard core", you can just use Qt for Embedded Linux and not use anything in Qtopia at all. Think of Qtopia as KDE for phones - a mixture of desktop, applications & libraries. Cheers, Tom PS: I'm a "Qt for Embedded Linux" developer... I don't know a huge amount about any of the Qtopia flavors. ------------------------------------------------------------------------- This SF.Net email is sponsored by the Moblin Your Move Developer's challenge Build the coolest Linux based applications with Moblin SDK & win great prizes Grand prize is a trip for two to an Open Source event anywhere in the world http://moblin-contest.org/redirect.php?banner_id=100&url=/ _______________________________________________ gumstix-users mailing list gum...@li... https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/gumstix-users |
From: Tom C. <tho...@tr...> - 2008-08-14 17:07:25
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On Thursday 14 August 2008 17:56:30 Drew wrote: > Tom, you've just put a smile on my face :D > > After that reply I received the other day I simply lost all hope of having a > mobile device I could (visually) play around with. > > I was hoping to get the goliath and mix this together with the Qtopia > applications I've been seeing ever where, was pretty gutted when I found out > I couldn't do it :( > > Thanks for clearing things up for me. The adventure continues! :D Don't get too excited, there's probably a fair bit of work involved to get all the Qtopia applications up on the Goliath. Things like writing a driver for the GSM modem (unless it can talk standard AT commands). There's a _lot_ of code in Qtopia and I guess quite a lot will need tweeking. Don't expect an out-of-box experience, that's all I'd say. :-) Cheers, Tom |