From: Eric H. <e_h...@ya...> - 2007-05-22 21:27:01
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I have contacted Inergi a few months ago and have yet to receive a response. -Eric ----- Original Message ---- From: Don Anderson <do...@gu...> To: General mailing list for gumstix users. <gum...@li...> Sent: Tuesday, May 22, 2007 4:20:38 PM Subject: Re: [Gumstix-users] Gumstix custom enclosure? A number of our customers have used the services of one or more of the companies listed here in the North American hardware section to make their custom enclosure. http://docwiki.gumstix.org/Consultants Don ++++++++++++ ____________________________________________________________________________________ Moody friends. Drama queens. Your life? Nope! - their life, your story. Play Sims Stories at Yahoo! Games. http://sims.yahoo.com/ |
From: Bruce F. <bfortnam@GlobalLocate.com> - 2007-05-23 16:10:04
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>> Does anyone on this mailing list have a solution? > Unless you can find someone who has already done it, you're choices are > limited. It really depends on how many you want. > If you only want a few (10-20) you could design your own case, and have > them printed on a 3D FDM printer in ABS. > If you want a lot, you'll probably have to go the injection molded route, > which is really expensive upfront... A good low-to-medium volume solution is Toolless Plastics: http://www.toolless.com/index.html --Bruce |
From: Neil J. <nja...@gm...> - 2007-05-23 17:02:16
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Has anyone heard of RepRap, the open-source/open architecture 3D printer? http://www.reprap.org/bin/view/Main/WebHome Here's a YouTube video of it in action: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OSd0BgYuv10 On 5/23/07, Bruce Fortnam <bfo...@gl...> wrote: > > >> Does anyone on this mailing list have a solution? > > > Unless you can find someone who has already done it, you're choices > are > > limited. It really depends on how many you want. > > > If you only want a few (10-20) you could design your own case, and > have > > them printed on a 3D FDM printer in ABS. > > > If you want a lot, you'll probably have to go the injection molded > route, > > which is really expensive upfront... > > A good low-to-medium volume solution is Toolless Plastics: > http://www.toolless.com/index.html > > --Bruce > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------- > This SF.net email is sponsored by DB2 Express > Download DB2 Express C - the FREE version of DB2 express and take > control of your XML. No limits. Just data. Click to get it now. > http://sourceforge.net/powerbar/db2/ > _______________________________________________ > gumstix-users mailing list > gum...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/gumstix-users > |
From: William M. <nyp...@gm...> - 2007-05-23 17:06:27
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On 5/23/07, Neil Jansen <nja...@gm...> wrote: > Has anyone heard of RepRap, the open-source/open architecture 3D printer? > > http://www.reprap.org/bin/view/Main/WebHome > > Here's a YouTube video of it in action: > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OSd0BgYuv10 Also known as stereo lithography. This would be an awesome option for building yourself a custom case if you already have the machine. If not, its going to be expensive. You might also be able to create a CAD model of an enclosure and have someone build it with one of these. |
From: Jon H. <jo...@hu...> - 2007-05-23 17:17:18
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On Wed, 23 May 2007 12:06:23 -0500, "William Moore" <nyp...@gm...> wrote: > Also known as stereo lithography. This would be an awesome option for > building yourself a custom case if you already have the machine. If > not, its going to be expensive. You might also be able to create a > CAD model of an enclosure and have someone build it with one of these. Actually, the reprap machine uses a technique called FDM - fused deposit modeling. FDM extrudes a thin bead of liquid (heated) plastic, typically ABS, to build up a model in layers. Stereo lithography uses plastic powder and a laser to fuse the powder = into a solid, layer by layer. You can build an FDM machine using a CNC milling machine and a home-made print head. The reprap project builds the CNC machine from scratch as = well. There are a number of issues to overcome before reprap is ready for prime time, the main one being that is doesn't handle support material - the reprap printer currently can't print objects with overhangs or other complex shapes. A real FDM printer has two print heads - one for the printed material, and one for a support material to fill the voids, which is then either broken away or dissolved away. I have been experimenting with having some of the parts for BrainBot, the Bioloid robot I am building (with a gumstix onboard). See http://www.huv.com/blog/ for details... Later, Jon -------------------------------------------------------------- Jon Hylands Jo...@hu... http://www.huv.com/jon Project: Micro Raptor (Small Biped Velociraptor Robot) http://www.huv.com/blog |
From: William M. <nyp...@gm...> - 2007-05-23 17:20:15
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On 5/23/07, Jon Hylands <jo...@hu...> wrote: > > Actually, the reprap machine uses a technique called FDM - fused deposit > modeling. FDM extrudes a thin bead of liquid (heated) plastic, typically > ABS, to build up a model in layers. > > Stereo lithography uses plastic powder and a laser to fuse the powder into > a solid, layer by layer. > > You can build an FDM machine using a CNC milling machine and a home-made > print head. The reprap project builds the CNC machine from scratch as well. > There are a number of issues to overcome before reprap is ready for prime > time, the main one being that is doesn't handle support material - the > reprap printer currently can't print objects with overhangs or other > complex shapes. A real FDM printer has two print heads - one for the > printed material, and one for a support material to fill the voids, which > is then either broken away or dissolved away. > > I have been experimenting with having some of the parts for BrainBot, the > Bioloid robot I am building (with a gumstix onboard). See > http://www.huv.com/blog/ for details... > > Later, > Jon Thanks for the correction. Its good to know the difference. |
From: White [UK], J. M. <jon...@sp...> - 2007-05-23 19:32:32
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SLS is another technology worth looking at, it uses a laser to sinter a = powder (normally polyamides) rather than SLA which uses a liquid. The = parts are a good stength and have better thermal characteristics than = FDM models. Here in europe I use a www.materialise.com The SLS parts are = normally around 2 3rds the price of the FDM parts and are easier to = finish. SLS can work out quite cost effective for low volume parts rather than = making an injection mould tool. I have also used silicone tools made from an SLA master, they then cast = poluerathane into the mould under a vaccum to get a small run of parts Jon -----Original Message----- From: gum...@li... on behalf of William = Moore Sent: Wed 23/05/2007 18:20 To: General mailing list for gumstix users. Cc:=09 Subject: Re: [Gumstix-users] Gumstix custom enclosure? On 5/23/07, Jon Hylands <jo...@hu...> wrote: > > Actually, the reprap machine uses a technique called FDM - fused = deposit > modeling. FDM extrudes a thin bead of liquid (heated) plastic, = typically > ABS, to build up a model in layers. > > Stereo lithography uses plastic powder and a laser to fuse the powder = into > a solid, layer by layer. > > You can build an FDM machine using a CNC milling machine and a = home-made > print head. The reprap project builds the CNC machine from scratch as = well. > There are a number of issues to overcome before reprap is ready for = prime > time, the main one being that is doesn't handle support material - the > reprap printer currently can't print objects with overhangs or other > complex shapes. A real FDM printer has two print heads - one for the > printed material, and one for a support material to fill the voids, = which > is then either broken away or dissolved away. > > I have been experimenting with having some of the parts for BrainBot, = the > Bioloid robot I am building (with a gumstix onboard). See > http://www.huv.com/blog/ for details... > > Later, > Jon Thanks for the correction. Its good to know the difference. -------------------------------------------------------------------------= This SF.net email is sponsored by DB2 Express Download DB2 Express C - the FREE version of DB2 express and take control of your XML. No limits. Just data. Click to get it now. http://sourceforge.net/powerbar/db2/ _______________________________________________ gumstix-users mailing list gum...@li... https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/gumstix-users |
From: Jeff S. <jef...@gm...> - 2007-05-23 22:04:01
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that looks sweet I can't seem to find a price for the parts. I understand you get all the pieces yourself but I'm just wondering how much each part is minus power supply for me got plenty of those but even with the power supply I'm wondering how much a reprap's parts cost and how much for the plastic it uses :-/ On 5/23/07, Neil Jansen <nja...@gm...> wrote: > Has anyone heard of RepRap, the open-source/open architecture 3D printer? > > http://www.reprap.org/bin/view/Main/WebHome > > Here's a YouTube video of it in action: > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OSd0BgYuv10 > > > > On 5/23/07, Bruce Fortnam < bfo...@gl...> wrote: > > >> Does anyone on this mailing list have a solution? > > > > > Unless you can find someone who has already done it, you're choices > > are > > > limited. It really depends on how many you want. > > > > > If you only want a few (10-20) you could design your own case, and > > have > > > them printed on a 3D FDM printer in ABS. > > > > > If you want a lot, you'll probably have to go the injection molded > > route, > > > which is really expensive upfront... > > > > A good low-to-medium volume solution is Toolless Plastics: > > http://www.toolless.com/index.html > > > > --Bruce > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > This SF.net email is sponsored by DB2 Express > > Download DB2 Express C - the FREE version of DB2 express and take > > control of your XML. No limits. Just data. Click to get it now. > > http://sourceforge.net/powerbar/db2/ > > _______________________________________________ > > gumstix-users mailing list > > gum...@li... > > > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/gumstix-users > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------- > This SF.net email is sponsored by DB2 Express > Download DB2 Express C - the FREE version of DB2 express and take > control of your XML. No limits. Just data. Click to get it now. > http://sourceforge.net/powerbar/db2/ > _______________________________________________ > gumstix-users mailing list > gum...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/gumstix-users > > |
From: Tim N. <ce...@gm...> - 2007-05-23 22:31:16
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The reprap is not really ready for production type runs. It costs about $2K US to buy a kit and there is at least one manufacturer selling them. Its in more of the experimental phase at the moment from what I can tell. It can use any type of material which can be extrided from a syringe. That's also the limiting factor for the resolution and its pretty slow. The smaller your needle/nozzle the better the resolution but the slower it will be to build up each layer. Personally, I wish there were a similarly experimental (and cheap) version using UV sensitive liquids and lasers or a laser sintering type model. You should be able to get very good resolution and possibly faster object creation time..(at least in my mind) but there are other drawbacks to that also. Mind you that I am speaking as an interested spectator and I don't have any experience with all of this technology at this point. --Tim On Wed, 23 May 2007 15:14, Jeff Sadowski wrote: > that looks sweet I can't seem to find a price for the parts. I > understand you get all the pieces yourself but I'm just wondering how > much each part is minus power supply for me got plenty of those but > even with the power supply I'm wondering how much a reprap's parts > cost and how much for the plastic it uses :-/ > |
From: Chris <chr...@we...> - 2007-05-24 03:39:04
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Tim Newsom wrote: > Personally, I wish there were a similarly experimental (and cheap) > version using UV sensitive liquids and lasers or a laser sintering type > model. You should be able to get very good resolution and possibly > faster object creation time..(at least in my mind) but there are other > drawbacks to that also. Not that this link will answer the above wish, but it's neat nevertheless;] http://www.evilmadscientist.com/article.php/candyfab NB I am under the impression that photo-curable polymers are rather expensive; the ones used in rapid prototyping cost (I believe) somewhere in the order of $800 per gallon. -- Chris |
From: Jon H. <jo...@hu...> - 2007-05-23 22:51:38
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On Wed, 23 May 2007 15:31:08 -0700, Tim Newsom <ce...@gm...> wrote: > Personally, I wish there were a similarly experimental (and cheap)=20 > version using UV sensitive liquids and lasers or a laser sintering type= =20 > model. You should be able to get very good resolution and possibly=20 > faster object creation time..(at least in my mind) but there are other=20 > drawbacks to that also. http://www.desktopfactory.com Later, Jon -------------------------------------------------------------- Jon Hylands Jo...@hu... http://www.huv.com/jon Project: Micro Raptor (Small Biped Velociraptor Robot) http://www.huv.com/blog |
From: Tim N. <ce...@gm...> - 2007-05-23 23:54:35
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Ok.. That's pretty cool. Thanks for the heads up. --Tim On Wed, 23 May 2007 16:04, Jon Hylands wrote: > On Wed, 23 May 2007 15:31:08 -0700, Tim Newsom <ce...@gm...> > wrote: > >> Personally, I wish there were a similarly experimental (and cheap) >> version using UV sensitive liquids and lasers or a laser sintering >> type >> model. You should be able to get very good resolution and possibly >> faster object creation time..(at least in my mind) but there are other >> drawbacks to that also. > > http://www.desktopfactory.com > > Later, > Jon > > -------------------------------------------------------------- > Jon Hylands Jo...@hu... http://www.huv.com/jon > > Project: Micro Raptor (Small Biped Velociraptor Robot) > http://www.huv.com/blog > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------- > This SF.net email is sponsored by DB2 Express > Download DB2 Express C - the FREE version of DB2 express and take > control of your XML. No limits. Just data. Click to get it now. > http://sourceforge.net/powerbar/db2/ > _______________________________________________ > gumstix-users mailing list > gum...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/gumstix-users --Tim |
From: Jeff S. <jef...@gm...> - 2007-05-23 23:56:40
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2000 is not outside the range of a hobbyist (expensive, but I buy my computers for about that much) :-/ you said they sell kits? I couldn't find it on there sight I'll be asking them. You guys make it really hard for me to stay focused. lol. I'm not sure if its good or bad all these ideas swimming around in my head but it sure makes me happy. Slowness might not be an issue accept I might die of asphyxiation waiting for the part to print. Lets say I print the standard gumstix box I'm wondering how long that would take. And the cost of that amount of plastic in the machine. On 5/23/07, Tim Newsom <ce...@gm...> wrote: > The reprap is not really ready for production type runs. It costs about > $2K US to buy a kit and there is at least one manufacturer selling > them. > Its in more of the experimental phase at the moment from what I can > tell. It can use any type of material which can be extrided from a > syringe. > That's also the limiting factor for the resolution and its pretty slow. > The smaller your needle/nozzle the better the resolution but the slower > it will be to build up each layer. > > Personally, I wish there were a similarly experimental (and cheap) > version using UV sensitive liquids and lasers or a laser sintering type > model. You should be able to get very good resolution and possibly > faster object creation time..(at least in my mind) but there are other > drawbacks to that also. > > Mind you that I am speaking as an interested spectator and I don't have > any experience with all of this technology at this point. > > --Tim > > On Wed, 23 May 2007 15:14, Jeff Sadowski wrote: > > that looks sweet I can't seem to find a price for the parts. I > > understand you get all the pieces yourself but I'm just wondering how > > much each part is minus power supply for me got plenty of those but > > even with the power supply I'm wondering how much a reprap's parts > > cost and how much for the plastic it uses :-/ > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------- > This SF.net email is sponsored by DB2 Express > Download DB2 Express C - the FREE version of DB2 express and take > control of your XML. No limits. Just data. Click to get it now. > http://sourceforge.net/powerbar/db2/ > _______________________________________________ > gumstix-users mailing list > gum...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/gumstix-users > |
From: Tim N. <ce...@gm...> - 2007-05-24 00:45:12
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There is a company which sells the kits. I can send you a link and the page from their site off line if interested. --Tim On Wed, 23 May 2007 17:06, Jeff Sadowski wrote: > 2000 is not outside the range of a hobbyist (expensive, but I buy my > computers for about that much) :-/ you said they sell kits? I couldn't > find it on there sight I'll be asking them. You guys make it really > hard for me to stay focused. > lol. I'm not sure if its good or bad all these ideas swimming around > in my head but it sure makes me happy. Slowness might not be an issue > accept I might die of asphyxiation waiting for the part to print. Lets > say I print the standard gumstix box I'm wondering how long that would > take. And the cost of that amount of plastic in the machine. > > On 5/23/07, Tim Newsom <ce...@gm...> wrote: >> The reprap is not really ready for production type runs. It costs >> about >> $2K US to buy a kit and there is at least one manufacturer selling >> them. >> Its in more of the experimental phase at the moment from what I can >> tell. It can use any type of material which can be extrided from a >> syringe. >> That's also the limiting factor for the resolution and its pretty >> slow. >> The smaller your needle/nozzle the better the resolution but the >> slower >> it will be to build up each layer. >> >> Personally, I wish there were a similarly experimental (and cheap) >> version using UV sensitive liquids and lasers or a laser sintering >> type >> model. You should be able to get very good resolution and possibly >> faster object creation time..(at least in my mind) but there are other >> drawbacks to that also. >> >> Mind you that I am speaking as an interested spectator and I don't >> have >> any experience with all of this technology at this point. >> >> --Tim >> >> On Wed, 23 May 2007 15:14, Jeff Sadowski wrote: >> > that looks sweet I can't seem to find a price for the parts. I >> > understand you get all the pieces yourself but I'm just wondering >> how >> > much each part is minus power supply for me got plenty of those but >> > even with the power supply I'm wondering how much a reprap's parts >> > cost and how much for the plastic it uses :-/ >> > >> >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------- >> This SF.net email is sponsored by DB2 Express >> Download DB2 Express C - the FREE version of DB2 express and take >> control of your XML. No limits. Just data. Click to get it now. >> http://sourceforge.net/powerbar/db2/ >> _______________________________________________ >> gumstix-users mailing list >> gum...@li... >> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/gumstix-users >> > |
From: Tim N. <ce...@gm...> - 2007-05-24 04:07:15
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I got a response from the desktop factory company. They expect the cost to be approx $4995 for a machine which sets on top of your desk like a printer. Working area is 5x5x5 or 125 inches. Multiple models can be constructed at the same time within the volume. Cost for the material is expected to be $1 per cubic inch and models are created by building up successive layers of the material at a resolution of .01 inches per layer. The models are supposed to be durable enough to drop or toss across a table to someone. The material is a nylon composite and its the only material which will be usable in the device. No word on if colors of material are possible. Build speed is 1 cubic inch in 1-3 hours. The expected release date in the us is late 2007 to early 2008 I think.. With non-US release in late 2008. --Tim On Wed, 23 May 2007 20:44, Chris wrote: > Tim Newsom wrote: >> Personally, I wish there were a similarly experimental (and cheap) >> version using UV sensitive liquids and lasers or a laser sintering >> type >> model. You should be able to get very good resolution and possibly >> faster object creation time..(at least in my mind) but there are other >> drawbacks to that also. > > Not that this link will answer the above wish, but it's neat > nevertheless;] > > http://www.evilmadscientist.com/article.php/candyfab > > NB I am under the impression that photo-curable polymers are rather > expensive; the ones used in rapid prototyping cost (I believe) > somewhere > in the order of $800 per gallon. > > -- Chris --Tim |
From: Don A. <do...@gu...> - 2007-06-01 14:48:42
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Chris, Tim and others We just put out a suite of software tools based on Google's SketchUp design software and posted more than 60 3D gumstix board visuals in their 3D warehouse. This combination of software and 3D board visuals is intended to make custom case design much easier. More information starting here: http://docwiki.gumstix.org/Sketchup Don +++++++++ At 9:07 PM -0700 5/23/07, Tim Newsom wrote: >I got a response from the desktop factory company. >They expect the cost to be approx $4995 for a machine which sets on top >of your desk like a printer. Working area is 5x5x5 or 125 inches. >Multiple models can be constructed at the same time within the volume. >Cost for the material is expected to be $1 per cubic inch and models are >created by building up successive layers of the material at a resolution >of .01 inches per layer. > >The models are supposed to be durable enough to drop or toss across a >table to someone. > >The material is a nylon composite and its the only material which will >be usable in the device. > >No word on if colors of material are possible. > >Build speed is 1 cubic inch in 1-3 hours. > >The expected release date in the us is late 2007 to early 2008 I think.. >With non-US release in late 2008. > >--Tim >On Wed, 23 May 2007 20:44, Chris wrote: >> Tim Newsom wrote: >>> Personally, I wish there were a similarly experimental (and cheap) >>> version using UV sensitive liquids and lasers or a laser sintering >>> type >>> model. You should be able to get very good resolution and possibly >>> faster object creation time..(at least in my mind) but there are other >>> drawbacks to that also. >> >> Not that this link will answer the above wish, but it's neat >> nevertheless;] >> >> http://www.evilmadscientist.com/article.php/candyfab >> >> NB I am under the impression that photo-curable polymers are rather >> expensive; the ones used in rapid prototyping cost (I believe) >> somewhere >> in the order of $800 per gallon. >> >> -- Chris > >--Tim > >------------------------------------------------------------------------- >This SF.net email is sponsored by DB2 Express >Download DB2 Express C - the FREE version of DB2 express and take >control of your XML. No limits. Just data. Click to get it now. >http://sourceforge.net/powerbar/db2/ >_______________________________________________ >gumstix-users mailing list >gum...@li... >https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/gumstix-users ==================================================================== Don Anderson http://www.gumstix.com ==================================================================== -- |