Re: [Gramps-users] importing-merging databases and deleting persons

[Don A. <dal...@us...>]

Jeroen,

If the pop up window stays on the screen, chances are the GRAMPS has
encountered a internal error. Fortunately, since GRAMPS is written in
the python language, this does not usually lead to a complete crash. The
current operation may have failed, but you can probably still continue.

If an error occurred, one of two things usually happens.

  1) GRAMPS displays a window with a "traceback" message that
     can be either sent to me or posted to the mailing list. This
     helps us debug things rather quickly, and usually without a
     test case.

  2) GRAMPS didn't catch the error with a window, but instead tried
     to display it to the console window. In this case, what you need
     to do is open a terminal window (such as xterm, gnome-terminal,
     or konsole), and run GRAMPS by typing "gramps" at the prompt. When
     the error is encountered, the traceback will be written to the 
     terminal window. If you paste this message into an email to me,
     I can find out what is happening.

Importing GEDCOM usually works pretty well. However, it has to be the
most poorly implemented standard ever. Many programs add their own
extensions, or implement the standard incorrectly. I think I've only
encountered a single program (GeneWeb) that generates correct GEDCOM
files. I usually have to make modifications every time I encounter a
file created by a program that hasn't been encountered yet.

If you are willing to send me the GRAMPS database (the 300 persons) and
the GEDCOM you are trying to import, I will make sure that the file gets
imported. I'm planning a patch release towards the end or this week or
beginning of next week, and I'll make sure the patch makes it into that
release. However, as soon as I get a successful import, I will send the
combined file back to you.

As a note - I delete any test cases sent to me once I've duplicated and
fixed the problem. I believe that genealogical information is private
unless otherwise stated.

Don

On Wed, 2002-10-09 at 04:38, jeroen p wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> I am using gramps 0.8.0-1 with Suse 7.3 and being a
> fresh user of the program I must say I am impressed.
> 
> Apart from some strange behaviour when deleting
> persons which I encounter (sometimes you cannot delete
> a person, the popup window stays on the screen but
> nothing is happening - but I saw there is a bug report
> already on that topic in the project page) I have a
> question about merging two databases.
> 
> I built one database (300 persons) entirely in Gramps,
> and received another (1700 persons) in GEDCOM format
> which I wanted to import. The two databases have 8
> people in common. The problem is that importing
> doesn't work (I ended up with a complete garbeled
> database), I thought because the ID's of both
> databases overlap partly. So I tried to change the
> ID's of both databases by entering an extra prefix
> digit (e.q. I1 F1 S1 P1 O1 etc for database A and I2
> etc. for database B) by altering the
> "gramps-internal-prefix-ID" once, run "reorder gramps
> ID" once for each seperate database.
> 
> After this operation, it is possible to merge the two
> databases correctly, but the connection of the two
> families stays complicated. Because I cannot delete
> persons correctly (my first idea was to skip the 8
> common people in one database and to make the proper
> familyconnections after importing), I have to merge
> the 8 common people in the combined database. I do
> this manually (with the "merge" command), but after
> long experiments I only end up with a combined
> database where you'll get different results for
> descendants when browsing from the "father" or the
> "mothers"family. This only occurs with the
> familymembers which had to be merged, so the rest of
> the database seems ok.
> 
> Does anyone has a suggestion? Or do I have to wait
> until the next pathlevel where the deleting problem is
> fixed?
> 
> Best regards, in thanks in advance,
> 
> Jeroen P
> 
> 
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