Re: [Gramps-users] The future of the 'look and feel' of GRAMPS

[Doug B. <dou...@gm...>]

On Sun, Nov 15, 2009 at 1:10 AM, Dave Marshall <n8...@ra...> wrote:
> Now that I have the Data Entry Gramplet and tried it, I don't like it. It is
> really no easier than going to Relationships then adding a partner. I still
> have to leave the People View and go to another screen.
>
> To use Data Entry Gramplet I still have to select the person that I want to
> add family to, then go to the Sidebar and select the Gramplets view then
> click the Add Relation menu to select Spouse, Child or whatever.

You may have missed this in Benny's message: you can detach any
gramplet from gramps, and position it anywhere on the screen. It will
remain there whatever screen you are in.

So, what you describe above is incorrect, and entering data via this
screen is much easier: you can copy most of the details of a new
person from another (say, mother, brother, or son). For example, you
can add three siblings by just changing their given names and
birthdates, and clicking "add". You'll get the rest of the data
without having to do anything. For example, it will add a family if
none exists if you are adding a spouse, and look up the place info to
share the place.

-Doug

> Either method requires clicking on the Sidebar to go to another view. The
> one thing I like better about MacFamilyTree is that I can add a complete
> family on one screen. When an active person's edit scree is open, it has a
> button to add a partner. The button replaces the quick navigation panel with
> a panel to add a spouse and children. There is also a button on the toolbar
> to add a family which opens a screen to add a father, mother and children.
>
>
>
> Nick Hall wrote:
>
> Doug,
>
> I think that new users find it hard to find things like the Data Entry
> Gramplet.  This is why I was suggesting a way to try to get them more
> closely integrated with the other views.
>
> I would imagine that the Data Entry Gramplet would be more widely used if it
> was accessible without having to go to a gramplet view to activate it.   It
> is also the type of gramplet that may benefit from being alongside another
> view in the same workspace.
>
> One of my other ideas was a functional menu with items like "Add Spouse",
> "Add Child", "Add Parent" in it.
>
> There seem to be a number of ways we could use the navigation bar.  As views
> are now pluggable it is an obvious progression to make the navigation bar
> pluggable.  In this way we could develop new ideas for navigation modes as
> plugins.
>
> Nick.
>
> Doug Blank wrote:
>
> On Sat, Nov 14, 2009 at 2:35 AM, Dave Marshall <n8...@ra...> wrote:
>
>
>
> Yes, it is confusing. If I have a family of 3 or 4 or whatever to add, it
> would save a lot of time if after adding the father I could click a button
> to Add Spouse then click another button to Add Children instead of closing
> the father's window, then going to the Relationship View then click the Edit
> Menu and select Add Partner. Once I add the spouse, I can add the children
> in the same window. It would be so much easier if there was  Spouse and
> Children tabs along with the Events, Sources and other tabs in the window I
> already have open.
>
>
> There's a Gramplet for that. Check out the "Data Entry Gramplet":
>
> http://www.gramps-project.org/wiki/index.php?title=DataEntryGramplet
>
> You can add children, siblings, parents and spouses in one window with
> one click.
>
> -Doug
>
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