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 [Gramps-users] How to enter and use estimated d.o.b ? From: paul womack - 2013-01-24 14:34:51 ```It is plausible to have an event (such as a birthday party) where the age of the person and the date of the event are available, how should I best handle this? I notice that all events can have an "Age" attribute, and that events can have a date attribute. This (clearly?) implies a d.o.b. Would this data representation by acted on by Calculate Estimated Dates http://www.gramps-project.org/wiki/index.php?title=Gramps_3.1_Wiki_Manual_-_Tools#Calculate_Estimated_Dates Or do I have to do the math myself and create a birth event? What if I have more than one age-date combo event? Do I then have a whole rash of estimate-birth events? Any help, wether general or detailed welcomed. BugBear ```
 Re: [Gramps-users] How to enter and use estimated d.o.b ? From: Craig Treleaven - 2013-01-25 15:04:30 ```At 2:20 PM +0000 1/24/13, paul womack wrote: >It is plausible to have an event (such as a birthday party) where the age >of the person and the date of the event are available, how should >I best handle this? > >I notice that all events can have an "Age" attribute, and >that events can have a date attribute. This (clearly?) implies >a d.o.b. > >Would this data representation by acted on by Calculate Estimated Dates > >http://www.gramps-project.org/wiki/index.php?title=Gramps_3.1_Wiki_Manual_-_Tools#Calculate_Estimated_Dates > >Or do I have to do the math myself and create a birth event? > >What if I have more than one age-date combo event? > >Do I then have a whole rash of estimate-birth events? > >Any help, wether general or detailed welcomed. Hey BugBear (I used to follow the OldTools list!) I don't know specifically about the Estimated Dates tool, but I'd suggest you set up a test family tree and try it out. Either export/import your existing tree into a new clear or make up some people with the attributes you want to test. I like to use a name like "Junk Test" for the tree so that it is crystal clear that this isn't real data. Craig ```
 Re: [Gramps-users] How to enter and use estimated d.o.b ? From: Doug Blank - 2013-01-25 16:04:43 Attachments: Message as HTML ```On Fri, Jan 25, 2013 at 9:51 AM, Craig Treleaven wrote: > At 2:20 PM +0000 1/24/13, paul womack wrote: > >It is plausible to have an event (such as a birthday party) where the age > >of the person and the date of the event are available, how should > >I best handle this? > In general, I don't think I would make this a field or attribute, but let Gramps calculate it for you. More below... > >>I notice that all events can have an "Age" attribute, and > >that events can have a date attribute. This (clearly?) implies > >a d.o.b. > No, any Age attribute on any Event does not imply anything in Gramps. It might imply something in your research, but in Gramps it is just a text field with no relationship to any other data. > >>Would this data representation by acted on by Calculate Estimated Dates > > > > > http://www.gramps-project.org/wiki/index.php?title=Gramps_3.1_Wiki_Manual_-_Tools#Calculate_Estimated_Dates > > > >Or do I have to do the math myself and create a birth event? > The Calculate Estimated Dates does not look for Age attributes on Events, but rather just looks for Events that might be associated with either Birth or Death connected to a Person, or a related Person. It uses that as evidence to try to guess an approximate Birth and/or Death date. For example, Calculated Estimated Dates can add Birth a event for a person without one, if it finds that the person was married to someone whose father has a known death date. It will be approximate, and often can be very wrong, especially as you go back further and further through related links. (Some people really hate this tool, BTW. Too much guessing!) > >>What if I have more than one age-date combo event? > > > >Do I then have a whole rash of estimate-birth events? > > No, you just get one each Birth Event/Death Event per person. But good news: you can see what you want today automatically. In Gramps 3.4, you can add the "Quick View" Gramplet to any view. After you have added it to a Person view, click on the "Configure this active view" toolbar button. Go to the "Quick View" tab and change the "Quick Views:" to "Timeline" and press "Save". In this Gramplet, there is a column called "Age" and will automatically compute the age of the person based on a Birth event. Even better news: in Gramps 4.0, the Age column has been added to all of the Events tabs. So, when you are looking at a Person, you will always see the Age column in the Events list. Hope that helps, -Doug > >Any help, wether general or detailed welcomed. > > Hey BugBear (I used to follow the OldTools list!) > > I don't know specifically about the Estimated Dates tool, but I'd > suggest you set up a test family tree and try it out. Either > export/import your existing tree into a new clear or make up some > people with the attributes you want to test. I like to use a name > like "Junk Test" for the tree so that it is crystal clear that this > isn't real data. > > Craig > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Master Visual Studio, SharePoint, SQL, ASP.NET, C# 2012, HTML5, CSS, > MVC, Windows 8 Apps, JavaScript and much more. Keep your skills current > with LearnDevNow - 3,200 step-by-step video tutorials by Microsoft > MVPs and experts. ON SALE this month only -- learn more at: > http://p.sf.net/sfu/learnnow-d2d > _______________________________________________ > Gramps-users mailing list > Gramps-users@... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/gramps-users > ```