Re: [Gramps-users] Photos of Living People on Narrated Web Site

[Stéphane Charette <stephanecharette@gm...>]

> Your preferred solution is actually easy to setup.  All modern http
> servers have had this support for years, and isn't too difficult to
> setup.  Do a google search for "setting up basic access
> authentication".
>
> For example:  http://www.apacheweek.com/features/userauth or
> http://httpd.apache.org/docs/1.3/howto/auth.html
>
> We could provide an advanced option in NarrativeWeb that automatically
> generates an .htaccess file in every NarrativeWeb subdirectory.

As I think about this some more, other ideas come to mind:

1) creating .htaccess for the entire NarrativeWeb tree
2) placing .htaccess only media directories
3) placing .htaccess only in subdirectories, meaning all the indexes
remain available
4) placing .htaccess only in directories with html pages and images of
people that are alive

Things like option #4 would require us to change somewhat the grouping
when those pages are written out, but the advantage is you could have
a web site that is mostly open.  A username/password would only be
required if you try and view a page that references someone alive.

Stéphane

Re: [Gramps-users] Photos of Living People on Narrated Web Site

[Stéphane Charette <stephanecharette@gm...>]

On Fri, Oct 31, 2008 at 14:30, Duncan Lithgow <dlithgow@...> wrote:
> I agree that GRAMPS is not ideal for dealing with this issue. Until a
> more flexible solution is implemented I say we stay on the side of
> caution.
>
> My preferred solution is that we are able to have password protected
> pages somehow organised to give groups of users access to their
> families pages.

Your preferred solution is actually easy to setup.  All modern http
servers have had this support for years, and isn't too difficult to
setup.  Do a google search for "setting up basic access
authentication".

For example:  http://www.apacheweek.com/features/userauth or
http://httpd.apache.org/docs/1.3/howto/auth.html

We could provide an advanced option in NarrativeWeb that automatically
generates an .htaccess file in every NarrativeWeb subdirectory.
Determining the content of that file and creating the
user/password/group files would be up to the user.

Stéphane

Re: [Gramps-users] Photos of Living People on Narrated Web Site

[Duncan Lithgow <dlithgow@gm...>]

I agree that GRAMPS is not ideal for dealing with this issue. Until a
more flexible solution is implemented I say we stay on the side of
caution.

My preferred solution is that we are able to have password protected
pages somehow organised to give groups of users access to their
families pages.

Duncan
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Re: [Gramps-users] [Gramps-devel] Funding?

[Duncan Lithgow <dlithgow@gm...>]

If you asked me, I'd contribute some money towards a usability survey
of the GRAMPS interface.

Duncan
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Re: [Gramps-users] Please, Can Someone Help with Eee PC & Gramps

[Laura Mellen <bbbmc59@ho...>]

Hello Robert,

I am relatively new to the world of Linux and have to agree that most wikis are not exactly written with the beginner in mind.

That said, I want to encourage you to not be afraid to try some things with your new Eee. I too have an Eee and although it's not my first try at Linux, I find it so much fun! The more I tinker (and yes, sometimes it's very frustrating) the more I appreciate what this little machine can do.

I am running GRAMPS on my Eee but I am not running Xandros that my machine came installed with. I reformatted (wiped-out) my SSD drive and installed Ubuntu-Eee on it instead.

I have not had a lot of time to work with GRAMPS on my Eee or my desktop for that matter, but so far I enjoy what I do see.

I found oftentimes as a newbie, Googling something leads me to more specific answers on the Internet than some Wikis hold. As someone mentioned though, be careful! There are many Linux versions that the little Eee can run and instructions that pertain to one version might not pertain to Xandros on your system.

It all has not been without frustration but I wish you the best and give you the advice to read as much as you can about the Eee and GRAMPS. I sometimes find it helpful to print articles out for reference later on. You might also wish to use your new Eee for a while and develope a comfort zone before you try and tweak it.

Sorry I can't offer you specific advice, Benny has suggested some nice things to get you started. Want to wish you all the best!
Laura




----------------------------------------
> From: catoni52@...
> To: gramps-users@...
> Date: Fri, 31 Oct 2008 04:03:13 +0000
> Subject: [Gramps-users] Please, Can Someone Help with Eee PC & Gramps
> 
> Greetings:  I have an Eee PC 8G model running Xandros Linux. I would rather 
> not switch to Ubuntu because I have heard of some people having problems 
> with various things after doing so. I simply would like to load Gramps onto 
> the Eee, and run it.
>   But I know nothing of computers except emailing and surfing the net. I see 
> instructions for running Gramps on the Eee, but they look like instructions 
> that a computer whiz would understand.. Like the below instructions, they 
> read like another language to me.
> backup simpliui.rc... what is that? How do I back it up?    SublimePorte's 
> Launcher Tools ??  Install to where? And what is it?
>     run it - sh path to file/pimpmyee.sh     It's Greek to me...
>    chose 4 to enable extra software repositories and create a preferences 
> file reducing the liklihood of updating files from the wrong repository.
> 
> Then, in a terminal window, sudo apt-get install gramps
> 
>    What is a terminal window, and where can I find one? What is sudo 
> apt-get??  To me it is an strange language.
> 
>     I'm sorry I do not understand what all that is about or what to do.
> 
>    All I need is to download Gramps to my Eee, and use the program. I'm 
> really not a computer whiz.Perhaps download it to my windows desktop and 
> load it on a thumb flash drive for my Xandros Linux Eee?
>    I would like to keep Xandros on my Eee if possible.
>   Should I take it to a computer shop and get someone to download and 
> install Gramps for me?
> 
>    To anyone that might be able to help, my very sincerest thanks, and my 
> apologies for being such a beginner at all this.
> 
>    Very best regards,  Robert Charles Williamson
>                               catoni52@...
> 
> 
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Re: [Gramps-users] Please, Can Someone Help with Eee PC & Gramps

[David and Janet <djrpublic@cf...>]

Message: 4
Date: Fri, 31 Oct 2008 04:03:13 +0000
From: <catoni52@...>
Subject: [Gramps-users] Please, Can Someone Help with Eee PC & Gramps
To: gramps-users@...
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Greetings:  I have an Eee PC 8G model running Xandros Linux. I would rather not switch to Ubuntu because I have heard of some people having problems with various things after doing so. I simply would like to load Gramps onto the Eee, and run it.
  But I know nothing of computers except emailing and surfing the net. I see instructions for running Gramps on the Eee, but they look like nstructions that a computer whiz would understand.


Sure can.  First of all you shouldn't assume that just because you can turn the EeePC on you won't need to learn anything else! ;-)  Google is your friend!

Go to http://wiki.eeeuser.com/howto:beginners_guide for simple step by step directions regarding those tools you mentioned.  BTW that wiki is just chock full of good information.

On the Gramps wiki you'll find more detailed directions specifically for your machine  http://gramps-project.org/wiki/index.php?title=Gramps_on_the_Eee

After working your way through those references ask more specific questions here.

Dave Rowell - A computer without Windoze is like a chocolate cake without mustard!

Re: [Gramps-users] Please, Can Someone Help with Eee PC & Gramps

[Billie Walsh <bilwalsh@sw...>]

Benny Malengier wrote:
> Dear Robert,
>
> you have bought a nice netbook. Unfortunately, linux land consists of 
> many different flavours, and the one installed on the Eee is not much 
> liked by many people.
> You will gain a lot by installing ubuntu on it, and the guide to do it 
> is very good:
>
> http://www.ubuntu-eee.com/
>
> This gives you security updates and a very well maintained 
> distribution which much more momentum than Xandros has. You only need 
> a 1Gb usb stick: 
> http://www.ubuntu-eee.com/wiki/index.php5?title=Get_Ubuntu_Eee

I never could get the script to create the USB stick to work. On the 
other hand I have an external DVD drive so I burned a disk.

>
> Once you have Ubuntu, you go to the 'Add Software' program, and select 
> GRAMPS and install it. You can leave it with that, or upgrade.
> For that, you download the Ubuntu version of the last GRAMPS ( 
> http://sourceforge.net/project/showfiles.php?group_id=25770&package_id=109309&release_id=629203 
> <http://sourceforge.net/project/showfiles.php?group_id=25770&package_id=109309&release_id=629203>; 
> ) and right click on it, selecting install, to obtain this version.
>
> WIth backup, people just mean you save your data to a usb stick, 
> another computer, or on a cd/dvd.
> The commands you see in the guides look difficult, but they are the 
> fastest way of communicating . Saying, open program such, go to menu 
> such, select option such, is a lot more work to type, and leads to 
> problems more easy (translations, different versions of programm). 
> Just giving a command to give to your computer is much faster, and 
> with copy and paste, the user cannot type an error.
> The commands issued to your linux computer directly (so without the 
> use of an intermediate layer in the form of another program) are done 
> through a terminal window or command shell. In Ubuntu the program is 
> called 'Terminal', in a KDE desktop, the application is called 'Konsole'.
>
> Benny
>
> PS: you do off course understand that whatever you do, you hold all 
> responsibility ;-)
>


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Re: [Gramps-users] Please, Can Someone Help with Eee PC & Gramps

[Billie Walsh <bilwalsh@sw...>]

On 10/30/2008 catoni52@... wrote:
>  Greetings:  I have an Eee PC 8G model running Xandros Linux. I would 
rather
>  not switch to Ubuntu because I have heard of some people having problems
>  with various things after doing so. I simply would like to load Gramps 
onto
>  the Eee, and run it.
>   But I know nothing of computers except emailing and surfing the net. 
I see
>  instructions for running Gramps on the Eee, but they look like 
instructions
>  that a computer whiz would understand.. Like the below instructions, they
>  read like another language to me.
>  backup simpliui.rc... what is that? How do I back it up?   
>  SublimePorte's
>  Launcher Tools ??  Install to where? And what is it?
>     run it - sh path to file/pimpmyee.sh     It's Greek to me...
>    chose 4 to enable extra software repositories and create a preferences
>  file reducing the liklihood of updating files from the wrong repository.
>
>  Then, in a terminal window, sudo apt-get install gramps
>
>    What is a terminal window, and where can I find one? What is sudo
>  apt-get??  To me it is an strange language.
>
>     I'm sorry I do not understand what all that is about or what to
>  do.
>
>    All I need is to download Gramps to my Eee, and use the program.
>  I'm
>  really not a computer whiz.Perhaps download it to my windows desktop
>  and
>  load it on a thumb flash drive for my Xandros Linux Eee?
>    I would like to keep Xandros on my Eee if possible.
>   Should I take it to a computer shop and get someone to download and
>  install Gramps for me?
>
>    To anyone that might be able to help, my very sincerest thanks,
>  and my apologies for being such a beginner at all this.
>
>    Very best regards,  Robert Charles Williamson
>                               catoni52@...

WARNING - THIS CAN BE DANGEROUS:
When I wanted to install Gramps I added debian.org repos to synaptic and 
installed from there.
IMMEDIATELY AFTER INSTALL MARK DEBIAN.ORG TO NOT BE USED!!!

It installed and works perfectly. The reason to mark debian.org as 
unusable in synaptic is because synaptic will want to update EVERYTHING 
on your computer and break it. Not a total loss because you can reload 
from the restore disk, but......................

See warnings at: http://wiki.eeeuser.com/addingxandrosrepos?s=adding%20repos
Don't bother adding the repos listed on the page because half of them 
aren't available any longer.

One the other hand, there's a fully customized version of Ubuntu for the 
Eee available at
http://www.eeebuntu.org/  . I have a freshly burned CD ready to try 
installation just haven't tried it yet. [ mine is a 4G with an 8gig SD 
card for the second "drive" ] It might be a good idea to get rid of this 
crappy xandros system.

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Re: [Gramps-users] Please, Can Someone Help with Eee PC & Gramps

[Jérôme <romjerome@ya...>]

Maybe you can share your experience on :
http://www.gramps-project.org/wiki/index.php?title=Gramps_on_the_Eee


Jérôme

Benny Malengier a écrit :
> Dear Robert,
> 
> you have bought a nice netbook. Unfortunately, linux land consists of 
> many different flavours, and the one installed on the Eee is not much 
> liked by many people.
> You will gain a lot by installing ubuntu on it, and the guide to do it 
> is very good:
> 
> http://www.ubuntu-eee.com/
> 
> This gives you security updates and a very well maintained distribution 
> which much more momentum than Xandros has. You only need a 1Gb usb 
> stick: http://www.ubuntu-eee.com/wiki/index.php5?title=Get_Ubuntu_Eee
> 
> Once you have Ubuntu, you go to the 'Add Software' program, and select 
> GRAMPS and install it. You can leave it with that, or upgrade.
> For that, you download the Ubuntu version of the last GRAMPS ( 
> http://sourceforge.net/project/showfiles.php?group_id=25770&package_id=109309&release_id=629203 
> <http://sourceforge.net/project/showfiles.php?group_id=25770&package_id=109309&release_id=629203>; 
> ) and right click on it, selecting install, to obtain this version.
> 
> WIth backup, people just mean you save your data to a usb stick, another 
> computer, or on a cd/dvd.
> The commands you see in the guides look difficult, but they are the 
> fastest way of communicating . Saying, open program such, go to menu 
> such, select option such, is a lot more work to type, and leads to 
> problems more easy (translations, different versions of programm). Just 
> giving a command to give to your computer is much faster, and with copy 
> and paste, the user cannot type an error.
> The commands issued to your linux computer directly (so without the use 
> of an intermediate layer in the form of another program) are done 
> through a terminal window or command shell. In Ubuntu the program is 
> called 'Terminal', in a KDE desktop, the application is called 'Konsole'.
> 
> Benny
> 
> PS: you do off course understand that whatever you do, you hold all 
> responsibility ;-)
> 
> 2008/10/31 <catoni52@... <mailto:catoni52@...>>
> 
>     Greetings:  I have an Eee PC 8G model running Xandros Linux. I would
>     rather
>     not switch to Ubuntu because I have heard of some people having problems
>     with various things after doing so. I simply would like to load
>     Gramps onto
>     the Eee, and run it.
>      But I know nothing of computers except emailing and surfing the
>     net. I see
>     instructions for running Gramps on the Eee, but they look like
>     instructions
>     that a computer whiz would understand.. Like the below instructions,
>     they
>     read like another language to me.
>     backup simpliui.rc... what is that? How do I back it up?  
>      SublimePorte's
>     Launcher Tools ??  Install to where? And what is it?
>        run it - sh path to file/pimpmyee.sh     It's Greek to me...
>       chose 4 to enable extra software repositories and create a preferences
>     file reducing the liklihood of updating files from the wrong repository.
> 
>     Then, in a terminal window, sudo apt-get install gramps
> 
>       What is a terminal window, and where can I find one? What is sudo
>     apt-get??  To me it is an strange language.
> 
>        I'm sorry I do not understand what all that is about or what to do.
> 
>       All I need is to download Gramps to my Eee, and use the program. I'm
>     really not a computer whiz.Perhaps download it to my windows desktop and
>     load it on a thumb flash drive for my Xandros Linux Eee?
>       I would like to keep Xandros on my Eee if possible.
>      Should I take it to a computer shop and get someone to download and
>     install Gramps for me?
> 
>       To anyone that might be able to help, my very sincerest thanks, and my
>     apologies for being such a beginner at all this.
> 
>       Very best regards,  Robert Charles Williamson
>                                  catoni52@...
>     <mailto:catoni52@...>
> 
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Re: [Gramps-users] Please, Can Someone Help with Eee PC & Gramps

[Benny Malengier <benny.malengier@gm...>]

Dear Robert,

you have bought a nice netbook. Unfortunately, linux land consists of many
different flavours, and the one installed on the Eee is not much liked by
many people.
You will gain a lot by installing ubuntu on it, and the guide to do it is
very good:

http://www.ubuntu-eee.com/

This gives you security updates and a very well maintained distribution
which much more momentum than Xandros has. You only need a 1Gb usb stick:
http://www.ubuntu-eee.com/wiki/index.php5?title=Get_Ubuntu_Eee

Once you have Ubuntu, you go to the 'Add Software' program, and select
GRAMPS and install it. You can leave it with that, or upgrade.
For that, you download the Ubuntu version of the last GRAMPS (
http://sourceforge.net/project/showfiles.php?group_id=25770&package_id=109309&release_id=629203)
and right click on it, selecting install, to obtain this version.

WIth backup, people just mean you save your data to a usb stick, another
computer, or on a cd/dvd.
The commands you see in the guides look difficult, but they are the fastest
way of communicating . Saying, open program such, go to menu such, select
option such, is a lot more work to type, and leads to problems more easy
(translations, different versions of programm). Just giving a command to
give to your computer is much faster, and with copy and paste, the user
cannot type an error.
The commands issued to your linux computer directly (so without the use of
an intermediate layer in the form of another program) are done through a
terminal window or command shell. In Ubuntu the program is called
'Terminal', in a KDE desktop, the application is called 'Konsole'.

Benny

PS: you do off course understand that whatever you do, you hold all
responsibility ;-)

2008/10/31 <catoni52@...>

> Greetings:  I have an Eee PC 8G model running Xandros Linux. I would rather
> not switch to Ubuntu because I have heard of some people having problems
> with various things after doing so. I simply would like to load Gramps onto
> the Eee, and run it.
>  But I know nothing of computers except emailing and surfing the net. I see
> instructions for running Gramps on the Eee, but they look like instructions
> that a computer whiz would understand.. Like the below instructions, they
> read like another language to me.
> backup simpliui.rc... what is that? How do I back it up?    SublimePorte's
> Launcher Tools ??  Install to where? And what is it?
>    run it - sh path to file/pimpmyee.sh     It's Greek to me...
>   chose 4 to enable extra software repositories and create a preferences
> file reducing the liklihood of updating files from the wrong repository.
>
> Then, in a terminal window, sudo apt-get install gramps
>
>   What is a terminal window, and where can I find one? What is sudo
> apt-get??  To me it is an strange language.
>
>    I'm sorry I do not understand what all that is about or what to do.
>
>   All I need is to download Gramps to my Eee, and use the program. I'm
> really not a computer whiz.Perhaps download it to my windows desktop and
> load it on a thumb flash drive for my Xandros Linux Eee?
>   I would like to keep Xandros on my Eee if possible.
>  Should I take it to a computer shop and get someone to download and
> install Gramps for me?
>
>   To anyone that might be able to help, my very sincerest thanks, and my
> apologies for being such a beginner at all this.
>
>   Very best regards,  Robert Charles Williamson
>                              catoni52@...
>
>
>
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[Gramps-users] Please, Can Someone Help with Eee PC & Gramps

[<catoni52@sy...>]

Greetings:  I have an Eee PC 8G model running Xandros Linux. I would rather 
not switch to Ubuntu because I have heard of some people having problems 
with various things after doing so. I simply would like to load Gramps onto 
the Eee, and run it.
  But I know nothing of computers except emailing and surfing the net. I see 
instructions for running Gramps on the Eee, but they look like instructions 
that a computer whiz would understand.. Like the below instructions, they 
read like another language to me.
backup simpliui.rc... what is that? How do I back it up?    SublimePorte's 
Launcher Tools ??  Install to where? And what is it?
    run it - sh path to file/pimpmyee.sh     It's Greek to me...
   chose 4 to enable extra software repositories and create a preferences 
file reducing the liklihood of updating files from the wrong repository.

Then, in a terminal window, sudo apt-get install gramps

   What is a terminal window, and where can I find one? What is sudo 
apt-get??  To me it is an strange language.

    I'm sorry I do not understand what all that is about or what to do.

   All I need is to download Gramps to my Eee, and use the program. I'm 
really not a computer whiz.Perhaps download it to my windows desktop and 
load it on a thumb flash drive for my Xandros Linux Eee?
   I would like to keep Xandros on my Eee if possible.
  Should I take it to a computer shop and get someone to download and 
install Gramps for me?

   To anyone that might be able to help, my very sincerest thanks, and my 
apologies for being such a beginner at all this.

   Very best regards,  Robert Charles Williamson
                              catoni52@...

Re: [Gramps-users] can't rename Family Tree

[Algis Kabaila <akabaila@pc...>]

Doug,

Of course, Peter is right. However it may be worth adding that a full 
installation routine, in summary, is as follows:

1. upgrade the source files (which you have done)
2. cd  ~/gramps-whereverYouHaveDownloadedUpdates/
3.  ./autogen.sh
4. make
5. make install

Or, if you wish to run from the command line, replace step 5 by 5A:
5A. python src/gramps.y

I am assuming you are running from Linux OS.  In windows, the "/" have to be 
replaced by "\" and there are other changes, too.

Old Al

PS: I am a newbee in all I do, so I believe in recording full details.

A.

On Fri, 31 Oct 2008 07:48:18 Peter Landgren wrote:
> Doug,
>
> When grams run, it uses the files in /usr/local/share/gramps.
> If you modify DbManager.py in ~/downloads/gramps-3.0.2/src, you
> must do a "make install" as root, in ~/downloads/gramps-3.0.2.
>
> /Peter
>
> > I have DbManager.py in /usr/local/share/gramps (Date modified 13 Oct
> > 2008) and also ~/downloads/gramps-3.0.2/src (Date modified 27 Sep 2008).
> > I presume the ~/downloads is the one to edit and then re-installation
> > will change the /usr/local version. Is that right?
> >
> > Doug
> >
> > Benny Malengier wrote:
> > > <snip>
> > >
> > > The fix will be in 3.0.4 when released. This can still take a while,
> > > although this is the second more important fix.
> > > If you want the fix now, you can use branch30 from subversion (info on
> > > our wiki, but you need to be a technical person to do it), or do the
> > > fix manually yourself (again, some daring needed). The patch is very
> > > simple:
> > >
> > > --- src/DbManager.py    (revision 11214)
> > > +++ src/DbManager.py    (working copy)
> > > @@ -631,7 +631,8 @@
> > >              node = self.model.get_iter(path)
> > >              old_text = self.model.get_value(node, NAME_COL)
> > >              if not old_text.strip() == new_text.strip():
> > >  -                if len(path) > 1 :
> > > +                if ":" in path :
> > >                      self.__rename_revision(path, new_text)
> > >                  else:
> > >                      self.__rename_database(path, new_text)
> > >
> > > The - is deleted line, and the + added line. You find the file
> > > DbManager.py on your computer (eg with the locate command).
> > > For the normal user, it is best to do just wait for version 3.0.4 to
> > > be released.
> > >
> > > Benny
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Re: [Gramps-users] can't rename Family Tree

[Peter Landgren <peter.talken@te...>]

Doug,

When grams run, it uses the files in /usr/local/share/gramps.
If you modify DbManager.py in ~/downloads/gramps-3.0.2/src, you
must do a "make install" as root, in ~/downloads/gramps-3.0.2.

/Peter


> I have DbManager.py in /usr/local/share/gramps (Date modified 13 Oct
> 2008) and also ~/downloads/gramps-3.0.2/src (Date modified 27 Sep 2008).
> I presume the ~/downloads is the one to edit and then re-installation
> will change the /usr/local version. Is that right?
>
> Doug
>
> Benny Malengier wrote:
> > <snip>
> >
> > The fix will be in 3.0.4 when released. This can still take a while,
> > although this is the second more important fix.
> > If you want the fix now, you can use branch30 from subversion (info on
> > our wiki, but you need to be a technical person to do it), or do the
> > fix manually yourself (again, some daring needed). The patch is very
> > simple:
> >
> > --- src/DbManager.py    (revision 11214)
> > +++ src/DbManager.py    (working copy)
> > @@ -631,7 +631,8 @@
> >              node = self.model.get_iter(path)
> >              old_text = self.model.get_value(node, NAME_COL)
> >              if not old_text.strip() == new_text.strip():
> >  -                if len(path) > 1 :
> > +                if ":" in path :
> >                      self.__rename_revision(path, new_text)
> >                  else:
> >                      self.__rename_database(path, new_text)
> >
> > The - is deleted line, and the + added line. You find the file
> > DbManager.py on your computer (eg with the locate command).
> > For the normal user, it is best to do just wait for version 3.0.4 to
> > be released.
> >
> > Benny
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Re: [Gramps-users] can't rename Family Tree

[Doug <doug_bainbridge@on...>]

I have DbManager.py in /usr/local/share/gramps (Date modified 13 Oct 
2008) and also ~/downloads/gramps-3.0.2/src (Date modified 27 Sep 2008).
I presume the ~/downloads is the one to edit and then re-installation 
will change the /usr/local version. Is that right?

Doug




Benny Malengier wrote:
> <snip>
>
> The fix will be in 3.0.4 when released. This can still take a while, 
> although this is the second more important fix.
> If you want the fix now, you can use branch30 from subversion (info on 
> our wiki, but you need to be a technical person to do it), or do the 
> fix manually yourself (again, some daring needed). The patch is very 
> simple:
>
> --- src/DbManager.py    (revision 11214)
> +++ src/DbManager.py    (working copy)
> @@ -631,7 +631,8 @@
>              node = self.model.get_iter(path)
>              old_text = self.model.get_value(node, NAME_COL)
>              if not old_text.strip() == new_text.strip():
>  -                if len(path) > 1 :
> +                if ":" in path :
>                      self.__rename_revision(path, new_text)
>                  else:
>                      self.__rename_database(path, new_text)
>
> The - is deleted line, and the + added line. You find the file 
> DbManager.py on your computer (eg with the locate command).
> For the normal user, it is best to do just wait for version 3.0.4 to 
> be released.
>
> Benny
>

Re: [Gramps-users] Custom Filter Editor has disappeared in 3.0.2

[Peter Landgren <peter.talken@te...>]

Doug,

Look under Edit=>Person Filter Editor, where you define your custom filters.

/Peter



> I found Custom Filter Editor extremely useful in 2.x.
>
> But in 3.0.2-1 Gramps, View=> Filter Sidebar produces a filter sidebar,
> but as far as I can tell, no way of accessing the Custom Filter Editor.
> There is no Add, no User defined filters dialogue, no way of changing
> the Custom Filter option from None.
>
>  Where has it gone?
>
> Doug
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[Gramps-users] Custom Filter Editor has disappeared in 3.0.2

[Doug <doug_bainbridge@on...>]

I found Custom Filter Editor extremely useful in 2.x.

But in 3.0.2-1 Gramps, View=> Filter Sidebar produces a filter sidebar, 
but as far as I can tell, no way of accessing the Custom Filter Editor. 
There is no Add, no User defined filters dialogue, no way of changing 
the Custom Filter option from None.

 Where has it gone?

Doug

Re: [Gramps-users] can't rename Family Tree

[Benny Malengier <benny.malengier@gm...>]

2008/10/30 Doug <doug_bainbridge@...>

> The bug has been acknowledged and resolved by Peter L (developer). If I
> understand it, the renaming and rcs errors were related.
>
> Note 0007380:
>
> "Fixed by changing the test do distinguish between revision and database
> rename.
> Branch rev 11214
> Trunk rev 11215"
>
> However, I'm not quite clear what this means - is the fix only available in
> future releases, 3.0.3-x, or would there be a patch applicable to 3.0.2-1?


The fix will be in 3.0.4 when released. This can still take a while,
although this is the second more important fix.
If you want the fix now, you can use branch30 from subversion (info on our
wiki, but you need to be a technical person to do it), or do the fix
manually yourself (again, some daring needed). The patch is very simple:

--- src/DbManager.py    (revision 11214)
+++ src/DbManager.py    (working copy)
@@ -631,7 +631,8 @@
             node = self.model.get_iter(path)
             old_text = self.model.get_value(node, NAME_COL)
             if not old_text.strip() == new_text.strip():
 -                if len(path) > 1 :
+                if ":" in path :
                     self.__rename_revision(path, new_text)
                 else:
                     self.__rename_database(path, new_text)

The - is deleted line, and the + added line. You find the file DbManager.py
on your computer (eg with the locate command).
For the normal user, it is best to do just wait for version 3.0.4 to be
released.

Benny

Re: [Gramps-users] can't rename Family Tree

[Doug <doug_bainbridge@on...>]

The bug has been acknowledged and resolved by Peter L (developer). If I 
understand it, the renaming and rcs errors were related.

Note 0007380:

"Fixed by changing the test do distinguish between revision and database 
rename.
Branch rev 11214
Trunk rev 11215"

However, I'm not quite clear what this means - is the fix only available 
in future releases, 3.0.3-x, or would there be a patch applicable to 
3.0.2-1?

Doug


Doug wrote:
> I've posted it on the bug-tracker.
> As you say, closing and re-opening the family tree list shows up the new 
> tree.
>
> I've also been able to rename it by editing the 
> ~/.gramps/grampsdb/490746ab/name.txt file.
> I've tried uninstalling and re-installing RCS to see if that would 
> remove the renaming error. No joy.
>
> Doug
>
> Benny Malengier wrote:
>   
>> I have seen this bug on large number of family trees. Please post an 
>> issue on the bug tracker.
>>
>> I do not think you need to quit gramps, just load the tree, then hit 
>> the family tree icon again, and now the file is present and you can 
>> rename the file.
>>
>> It would appear you cannot rename here  because you have some 
>> revisions on the file too? Is that the case? I have no experience with 
>> revisions myself (the error is in rcs).
>>
>> I do believe you can edit the file 
>> /home/dougb/.gramps/grampsdb/490746ab/name.txt
>> and put the new name you want there.
>> In your case it would appear GRAMPS thinks name.txt is a directory 
>> however...  Is that the case?
>>
>> In any case, this discussion is best held on the bug tracker, so post 
>> an item there, see
>>  http://gramps-project.org/wiki/index.php?title=Using_the_bug_tracker
>>
>> Benny
>>
>> 2008/10/28 Doug <doug_bainbridge@... 
>> <mailto:doug_bainbridge@...>>
>>
>>     I have a list of  22 Family Trees (saved packages, archives, etc.) and
>>     want to create another one in order to import a saved package.
>>
>>     When I click New in Family Tree Manager no new Family Tree appears. I
>>     have to shut down Gramps and re-open it. Then the new Family Tree
>>     appears in the list with the name "Family Tree 1"( or 2, etc.). When I
>>     attempt to rename this to something more informative, I get a message
>>     "Rename failed
>>     An attempt to rename a package with the following message:
>>     rcs: /home/dougb/.gramps/grampsdb/490746ab/name.txt/rev.gramps,v:
>>     Not a
>>     directory"
>>
>>     What's wrong?
>>
>>     Doug
>>
>>     Gramps 3.0.2-1; Mandriva 2008.1;  linux 2.6.24.5-desktop-2mnb
>>
>>     .
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Re: [Gramps-users] Picture Album

[Perkins, Jerry <Jerry-2007@jp...>]

Christian Eckhardt wrote:
> Hello,
>
> thanks for this suggestion. Coppermine is really great. However I
> liked the idea to manage family photos with GRAMPS because you can
> attribute the pictures to information in the database. Older family
> photos only gain value with the information going with them, otherwise
> they are just some old photos.
   I know what you are saying.   I also started to do something like
that.   But I found that by setting up categories and albums in
Coppermine was a better way to go.
   Right now my plan is to write a limited history book using
OpenOffice.   Using their Master Document to pull each chapter
together.   I can get the data from Gramps and the pictures from
Coppermine   Originally I had hoped that by writing a narrative in
Gramps that this would be a quick way of doing that.   But have since
changed my mind.   The nice thing about the Master Document is that you
can pull the same chapter into a number of books.   Also so charts and
lists can be directly imported from Gramps that will be inserted into
the book.

>
>
>
> Chris
>
> P.S. Where can I make a feature request?
>
>
> Perkins, Jerry wrote:
>> Christian Eckhardt wrote:
>>   
>>> Hello,
>>>
>>> I'd like to know if there is any possibility to create an album with all 
>>> pictures and their captions. If not this might be nice feature to add to 
>>> the program.
>>>
>>> Another thing I'd like to see is the chance to add *all* pictures the 
>>> the detailed ancestor report.
>>>   
>>>     
>>    I suggest using Coppermine.   See http://coppermine-gallery.net/
>>
>>   
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Re: [Gramps-users] Photos of Living People on Narrated Web Site

[Stéphane Charette <stephanecharette@gm...>]

On Wed, Oct 29, 2008 at 12:23, Jérôme <romjerome@...> wrote:
>> But it would be unfair to the rest of us if your experience now
>> prevents us from publishing images with NarrativeWeb.
>
> Just for living people ...

Pictures we have are mostly of the living.  Of the 3000+ people in my
database, only the last 2 or 3 generations consistently have pictures,
and of those, more than 9 out of 10 are living.

Stéphane

Re: [Gramps-users] Empty death event and alive status

[Jérôme <romjerome@ya...>]

> You do this?

done,
http://gramps.svn.sourceforge.net/viewvc/gramps?view=rev&revision=11218
http://gramps.svn.sourceforge.net/viewvc/gramps?view=rev&revision=11219

> I would rather see self.calln and self.patr. As your class inherits from another class, using too short variables can create clashes if everybody starts to code like that.

I will do changes this week. I would like to see if to rename existing 
class does not introduce other errors !



Benny Malengier a écrit :
> Yes, I see the error.
> 
> Change in _HasNameof :
> 
> from gettext import gettext as _
> 
> into
> 
> from TransUtils import sgettext as _
> 
> The above should be used everywhere where context is used, otherwise it 
> is a bug.
> 
> You do this?
> 
> Benny
> 
> 2008/10/29 Jérôme <romjerome@... <mailto:romjerome@...>>
> 
>         The English persion does not see person|Title, he sees Title
>         The person| part is for translators so they know it is not a
>         book title, but a title given to a person.
> 
> 
>     I tried $ python gramps.py
>     (ignoring my locale !)
> 
>     and I have seen person|Title on filter : people with <name> ...
> 
> 
> 
>     Benny Malengier a écrit :
> 
> 
> 
>         2008/10/29 Jérôme <romjerome@...
>         <mailto:romjerome@...> <mailto:romjerome@...
>         <mailto:romjerome@...>>>
> 
> 
>            Benny,
> 
> 
>                You are right. It would be easy to add this to the Person
>         with
>                <name> filter though. Please, do a feature request for this.
> 
>                Technically, open file src/Filters/Rules/Person/_HasNameOf
>                add label for call name, then eg
>                 self.call = self.list[4]
>                and add a find on the call name as done for give
>         name/family name...
> 
>                Should somebody have time to quickly add this....
> 
> 
>            Should be OK with patchs, but does english people like the label
>            "person|Title:" ?
> 
> 
>         The English persion does not see person|Title, he sees Title
>         The person| part is for translators so they know it is not a
>         book title, but a title given to a person. Well, if sgettext
>         from TransUtils is used instead of gettext (which it should in
>         GRAMPS).
> 
>         The patch looks ok. I do not like the variables as self.c,
>         self.p, ... I would rather see self.calln and self.patr. As your
>         class inherits from another class, using too short variables can
>         create clashes if everybody starts to code like that. Just to
>         let you know, I understand you patched the rule based on the
>         coding style already present.
> 
> 
> 
>            I know that a context tag exists on last gettext version :
>          
>          msgctxt.http://www.gnu.org/software/autoconf/manual/gettext/PO-Files.html
>            Maybe this could avoid such a string ? How coding for this
>         context ?
> 
> 
>         If you can figure out how to define context from within python
>         to use this  msgctxt  field, please inform us.
>         It should be as simple to use as now, so instead of
>         _('person|Title:')
>         perhaps
>         _('Title:', person)
>         However, I don't see context mentioned here:
>         http://www.python.org/doc/2.5.2/lib/node731.html
> 
>         Benny
> 
> 
> 
> 

Re: [Gramps-users] Photos of Living People on Narrated Web Site

[Jérôme <romjerome@ya...>]

> But it would be unfair to the rest of us if your experience now
> prevents us from publishing images with NarrativeWeb.

Just for living people ...

Stéphane Charette a écrit :
> On Wed, Oct 29, 2008 at 07:23, Benny Malengier
> <benny.malengier@...> wrote:
>> First, you don't have copyright on pictures of people, you need permission.
>> The same is true for buildings if the architect is not yet death for a
>> certain amount of time.
> 
> That is only true is some countries.  See:
> http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:Freedom_of_panorama
> 
>> Second, in my case, 3 people have asked to have their picture removed and
>> are angry, so I am on the side of caution.
> 
> I would argue that in your case, you need to place a "private" tag for
> those 3 people, and possibly more.
> 
> But it would be unfair to the rest of us if your experience now
> prevents us from publishing images with NarrativeWeb.
> 
> Stéphane
> 

Re: [Gramps-users] Photos of Living People on Narrated Web Site

[Jérôme <romjerome@ya...>]

> Do we need to be able to say that our database is 
> legal in the US, but prohibited in the EU? Ouch.

More what users will do with their database or media !

For me, on French territory, it is not allowed to take a photo and 
"share/broadcast/stream" it (outside a private circle) without the 
authorization of the person concerned ! For a quick resume, copyrights = 
owner rights + subject rights.

ex: the French president wanted to withdraw a voodoo doll of trade on 
the pretext of image rights, he lost because there is an exception for 
caricature (freedom of the press and expression), but he won another 
lawsuit against advertisers who used his image without permission (need 
for adult, minor person, photos of work protected by copyright, property 
photos, photos of animals, employees)
	
I do not want to sign documents to each living persons to abandon their 
rights to the image (and for each images)
	
In your opinion, why social networking sites migrate their data on 
servers based in the United States?
Is this to protect ourselves or to protect themselves ?




Martin Ewing a écrit :
> 
> On Wed, Oct 29, 2008 at 10:23 AM, Benny Malengier 
> <benny.malengier@... <mailto:benny.malengier@...>> wrote:
> 
>     First, you don't have copyright on pictures of people, you need
>     permission. The same is true for buildings if the architect is not
>     yet death for a certain amount of time.
> 
>     Second, in my case, 3 people have asked to have their picture
>     removed and are angry, so I am on the side of caution.
> 
>     Nevertheless, many people want to protect living people, and yet
>     allow pictures. At present this is hard to do with GRAMPS, you can
>     only make all subthings private, and then produce an website with
>     all info minus the private.
> 
>     Perhaps there is another solution: extend the private option with a
>     public option. Then objects can be private, normal or public.
>     Objects made specifically public would always be allowed to show.
>     Just as the user needs to take action to make an object private he
>     would need to take action to make an object public.
>     Good/Bad idea? A lot of code would have to change though, so no easy
>     change.
> 
>     Benny
> 
> 
>  This is one area where the gramps model of the world seems confused to 
> me.  (Of course, maybe it is just me who is confused...)
> 
> As a general matter, there is objective data about persons, events, and 
> places.  But there are (or should be) several kinds of "metadata" as I 
> think about it.
> 
> 1.  Information about the "quality" of the objective data or media.  How 
> reliable are the dates, relationships, etc.? Sometimes we have two 
> sources that conflict on a date, for example.  Source references do 
> offer a "confidence" attribute, which is a start.  Perhaps it would be 
> useful to introduce sets of alternatives, e.g., for dates or places.  
> These could carry a note that would discuss the possibilities and 
> weightings.  
> 
> 2.  What "restrictions" apply to the data? E.g., is there copyright that 
> limits how the data can be released or reproduced?  Are there privacy 
> restrictions which limit distribution, e.g., for living persons or for 
> any other data (or media) that are provided?  Do we take the position 
> that everything that is not permitted is restricted?
> 
> 2a.  What attribution should be given?  For media, who owns the 
> original, took the picture or made a scan, when, etc.? Gramps provides 
> attribute capablities, but they are largely unstructured and could be 
> developed more with reasonable templates.
> 
> As to data restrictions, I would point out that there are real-world 
> models that gramps should align with -- such as Creative Commons or GPL 
> licensing.  On the other hand, different legal jurisdictions have very 
> different policies.  Do we need to be able to say that our database is 
> legal in the US, but prohibited in the EU? Ouch.
> 
> So that's my 2c worth.  I am sure you are right that there would be a 
> lot of work to implement all these things.
> 
> Cheers,
> Martin
> 
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Re: [Gramps-users] Photos of Living People on Narrated Web Site

[Benny Malengier <benny.malengier@gm...>]

2008/10/29 Stéphane Charette <stephanecharette@...>

> On Wed, Oct 29, 2008 at 07:23, Benny Malengier
> <benny.malengier@...> wrote:
> > First, you don't have copyright on pictures of people, you need
> permission.
> > The same is true for buildings if the architect is not yet death for a
> > certain amount of time.
>
> That is only true is some countries.  See:
> http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:Freedom_of_panorama
>
> > Second, in my case, 3 people have asked to have their picture removed and
> > are angry, so I am on the side of caution.
>
> I would argue that in your case, you need to place a "private" tag for
> those 3 people, and possibly more.


As I noted in another thread, that is what I do. I include all information
on the website, excluding the private data. My problem is mostly with
Italian relatives. For some reasons they have draconian laws about this in
Italy, with some people claiming I even don't have the right to publish a
website at all. Well, I keep low profile when visiting Italy in the hope the
carabinieri don't find me ;-D



>
> But it would be unfair to the rest of us if your experience now
> prevents us from publishing images with NarrativeWeb.
>

I just note experience. If I understood discussions in the past well, Don in
the past has recieved some very impolite mails from people blaming GRAMPS
developers for having published things that should not have been on the
website. It is mentally very demanding for a huming being to be attacked
verbally online. I suppose the facebook generation will have no problems
with this however.

Benny

Re: [Gramps-users] Picture Album

[Benny Malengier <benny.malengier@gm...>]

2008/10/29 Christian Eckhardt <Christian.Eckhardt@...>

>  Hello,
>
> thanks for this suggestion. Coppermine is really great. However I liked the
> idea to manage family photos with GRAMPS because you can attribute the
> pictures to information in the database. Older family photos only gain value
> with the information going with them, otherwise they are just some old
> photos.
>
>
>
> Chris
>
> P.S. Where can I make a feature request?
>

On the bug tracker:  http://bugs.gramps-project.org/

Benny