Thanks for updating the Wiki with the regular expressions info., Doug.  That will be a great help, I'm sure.

On 24 April 2012 17:20, Doug Blank <doug.blank@gmail.com> wrote:
On Tue, Apr 24, 2012 at 9:33 AM, b4m <besancon4me@googlemail.com> wrote:
> Is there a list anywhere of the regular expressions which can be used in the
> filter?

I couldn't find anything to document the regular expression use in
Gramps, so I added it to:

http://www.gramps-project.org/wiki/index.php?title=Gramps_3.4_Wiki_Manual_-_Filters

There is a lot to Regular Expressions, which is why no one (that I
see) has added it to the Gramps wiki. But we really need to, because
it is so powerful and not easy.

Perhaps more people can add to the Examples there. In fact, if you
would like to add a pattern that you would like to use, perhaps
someone can show you how in the examples.

-Doug

> Thanks.
>
> On 24 April 2012 15:22, Peter Kidd <pjkidd@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> Dear Doug,
>>
>> Many thanks for this; a very useful summary and explanation. I hope it
>> could be incorporated into the documentation.
>>
>> Peter
>>
>> On 24 April 2012 12:56, Doug Blank <doug.blank@gmail.com> wrote:
>> > On Mon, Apr 23, 2012 at 5:44 AM, Peter Kidd <pjkidd@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >> Dear Jeff,
>> >>
>> >> Thanks for this. I can see how your method would work, but it seems
>> >> like an extraordinarily complex way of doing one of the very simplest
>> >> things one might want to do with a filter: find people with a
>> >> particular name! (I find I hard to believe that GRAMPS has been in
>> >> development for so long and that there is not a simpler way of doing
>> >> this. There is, after all, already a filter field called "Name" --
>> >> it's just that it seems designed to filter on surname or forename but
>> >> not both.)
>> >>
>> >> Can anyone else jump in with suggestions, or explain why this is not
>> >> something that has come up before as a requested feature?
>> >
>> > The search functionality is a little confusing, and we want to clean
>> > that up at some point. But you can easily do what you want.
>> >
>> > First, there are two different mechanisms for searching: the top bar
>> > Search and the side/bottom bar Filter. The top bar Search only appears
>> > when the entire sidebar is closed. You can close/open the
>> > Sidebar/bottombar  through menu -> View.
>> >
>> > Search and Filter work completely differently and it is useful to
>> > understand these differences:
>> >
>> > Search - the top bar search looks through the database as it appears
>> > in the rows and columns on the screen. For example, if you have the
>> > Name Display in Preferences set to show "Surname, Given" then you can
>> > match names as you originally tried with "Smith, J" and all of those
>> > rows will match. But if you change the way that names are displayed
>> > (in Preferences) then you will match that.  The Search functionality
>> > is probably the one you want to use most of the time, as it is most
>> > straightforward, but has some limitations (see below).
>> >
>> > Filter - the side/bottom bar Filters use a more complex system. It is
>> > not limited to what you see on the screen, but looks at the actual
>> > data. The name search will try to match on any single name part
>> > (given, surname, prefix, etc) of all names but appears to only match
>> > one---you can't match part of given and part of surname as you were
>> > first attempting. You can match surname, but not surname and given in
>> > the same name. (If you Filter on "John", you will get matches of
>> > people with firstname "John" but also those with surname "Johnson".
>> > You just can't filter on combinations of first and lastnames, as you
>> > were attempting).
>> >
>> > Some additional points:
>> >
>> > * The Filter will search alternative names too; Search only looks in
>> > the primary name (the one showing). That is why if you do a Filter on
>> > "Smith" you might see people listed that don't appear to match. But if
>> > you edit that person's details, you might see that they have an
>> > alternate name containing "smith".
>> >
>> > * You can open a bottom bar filter with top bar search, but that seems
>> > buggy; best to use filters only in the sidebar.
>> >
>> > * The Filter allows "regular expressions". So you can find all of the
>> > names that start with "B" and end in "ship": "B*ship". You can't do
>> > that with the top bar Search.
>> >
>> > * The Search will only match what is visible. If a name or text is too
>> > big to see in listing below topbar, then you won't find it. This is
>> > something to keep in mind when Searching through Notes. Best to use
>> > Filter for notes and other long text fields.
>> >
>> > Hope this helps! And I hope that we can integrate these two different
>> > systems into one that can do it all.
>> >
>> > -Doug
>> >
>> >> Cheers,
>> >>
>> >> Peter
>> >>
>> >> On 22 April 2012 06:25, Jeff Hunt <jeffhunt90@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >>> Hi Peter, I rushed in without checking what you had done. After
>> >>> consulting the wife who uses Gramps a lot we came up with:---
>> >>>
>> >>> Go to the filter screen as you have been doing. Select Custom Filter -
>> >>> by clicking on the pencil - then create a rule from the rule list.
>> >>> Give the filter a name. Go to general filters by clicking on the + and
>> >>> scroll down. We selected 'People with the <Name>' and then filled in
>> >>> the value for given name and family name in the appropriate text
>> >>> boxes.
>> >>>
>> >>> Then return to ordinary filter and select the named custom filter and
>> >>> find.
>> >>>
>> >>> If this is not clear you can ask again privately.
>> >>>
>> >>> -J
>> >>>
>> >>> On 21/04/2012, Peter Kidd <pjkidd@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >>>> Unless I have misunderstood something fundamental, what Jeff seems to
>> >>>> be describing is what I am already doing.
>> >>>>
>> >>>> Can anything think what I might be doing wrong?  Of the various
>> >>>> search
>> >>>> phrases I mentioned, which should work?
>> >>>>
>> >>>> I am using fairly old hardware running Ubuntu 11.04, Gnome 2.32.1,
>> >>>> and
>> >>>> GRAMPS 3.3.1-1. Would it help if I post some screenshots?
>> >>>>
>> >>>> Thanks in advance ...
>> >>>>
>> >>>> On 20 April 2012 22:31, Jeff Hunt <jeffhunt90@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >>>>> From memory so beware  but the trick is to make sure you are on the
>> >>>>> People
>> >>>>> tab.
>> >>>>> Then the search box on the right should work.
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> On 21/04/2012, Peter Kidd <pjkidd@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >>>>>> I'm probably being dumb, but I can't find the answer to this.
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>> When displaying the 'People' category I can use the 'Name' field to
>> >>>>>> filter the people displayed either by entering "John" to get all
>> >>>>>> the
>> >>>>>> people called John, or by entering "Smith" to get all the people
>> >>>>>> called Smith, but it seems that I cannot enter "John Smith", "Smith
>> >>>>>> John", Smith, John", "Smith, J", or any other permutation to get
>> >>>>>> all
>> >>>>>> the people called John Smith. Surely there must be a way to filter
>> >>>>>> on
>> >>>>>> forename+surname, but I have not found it.
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>> Help would be appreciated!
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>> Cheers,
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>> Peter
>> >>>>>>
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