Now this is interesting. I've been using ubuntu 13.10 since release a couple of weeks ago and had not noticed the missing horizontal scrollbars until I installed Gramps 4.02. I have just noticed my Nautilus also suffers the same so it is definitely ubuntu or my installation. This does not appear to be a Gramps issue but, strangely, my 3.4.6-1 install did have the horizontal handles.

I removed the overlays as you suggested but no change other than return to the standard scrollbars which I much prefer (thanks, the default scrollbar handles are a pita).


From: Benny Malengier <>
To: Bob Sturdevant <>
Cc: Gramps Development List <>
Sent: Sunday, November 10, 2013 5:37 AM
Subject: Re: [Gramps-devel] A couple of issues with 4.02 release

2013/11/9 Bob Sturdevant <>

From: Benny Malengier <>
To: sturdy <>
Cc: Gramps Development List <>
Sent: Saturday, November 9, 2013 4:59 PM
Subject: Re: [Gramps-devel] A couple of issues with 4.02 release

Issue #1: I've tried different desktops avail with Unity but no change. I have little love for Unity but it is the most popular Ubuntu default. I will look into other distros.

Installing the different desktops leaves the hacks of unity in place. You actually have to remove unity stuff to go to the normal GTK (Gnome) behavior..
Eg, I think you obtain normal scrollbar if you uninstall

so try that and see if scrollbar is back. If so, post a bug on launchpad for ubuntu.


Issue #2: Drag-n-drop sometimes works correctly. It seems to help if you drag past the drop point then return when done slowly. I'll open a bug report.

Issue #3: My bad, not trunk. I just svn up and see it says 4.03 r----. Spell check was previously stable there but I haven't used it in a couple of weeks.

Here is the msg I receive with the 4.02 release:
The crashed program seems to use third-party or local libraries:


It is highly recommended to check if the problem persists without those first.


2013/11/9 sturdy <>
Hi guys,

I just installed the 4.02 release but noticed a couple of issues that are
stoppers for me so I will revert back to 3.4.6-1 which appears quite stable.

1) No horizontal scroll bars on any view. Could this be a Unity issue?

For 13.04 Kubuntu I needed to uninstall some unity specific packages to get Gramps working correct.   As Canonical does those specific 'see overlay scrolbar if your mouse is near the edge', yes, I would think a unity issue.
Will Gramps fix this?
We use GTK library as upstream, not unity. So if this can be reproduced with a GTK theme, it is a bug in Gramps. Otherwise Canonical should push this upstream for inclusion.

2) Drag-and-drop from clipboard and within the person editor does not drop
where released but at the bottom of the editor. Up/Down arrows on editor
still work correctly.

I tested this here and I obtain same behavior. So a bug in 4.0.x, please post a bug ticket on the bug tracker.
3) Two crashes as a result of the spell checker libraries. I'll look into
this later but have not had a problem with 4.01 and 4.02 when running trunk.

I don't understand. You say crash but then no problem with 4.02 running trunk. Trunk will be 4.1, it should not be compared with 4.0. You need the gramps40 branch to track 4.0 development. A crash is normally not bug of Gramps but bug with the used library.



HTH and I can submit bug reports if needed.


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