Thread: [Gpsbabel-misc] Newb Conversion question
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From: Dillon, R. <Ros...@mt...> - 2008-08-06 23:16:01
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I am in a time crunch to convert a spreadsheet list of data into a NMEA file. The spreadsheet has Lat, long and time and a bunch of other stuff as well that I don't think I need. The instructions I found aren't really helping me get started. Can someone help with a little push? Excel (or CSV) to NMEA. How? Thanks Ross "Roscoe" Dillon |
From: Robert L. <rob...@gp...> - 2008-08-07 02:49:06
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On Wed, Aug 6, 2008 at 6:17 PM, Dillon, Ross <Ros...@mt...>wrote: > I am in a time crunch to convert a spreadsheet list of data into a NMEA > file. The spreadsheet has Lat, long and time and a bunch of other stuff as > well that I don't think I need. > > > > The instructions I found aren't really helping me get started. Can someone > help with a little push? > > > > Excel (or CSV) to NMEA. How? Thanks > Probably the easiest way is to save your spreadsheet as a text file with column headers that describe the order of the column.; the column names can be found at http://www.gpsbabel.org/htmldoc-development/fmt_unicsv.html Now, in GPSBabel, read that text file of type "unicsv" and write it as NMEA. RJL |
From: Dillon, R. <Ros...@mt...> - 2008-08-07 18:35:58
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I'll give that a try... Ross "Roscoe" Dillon Senior Engineer Modern Technology Solutions Inc. ros...@mt... (702) 369-8920 x22 ________________________________ From: Hastert Paul Col AF/A2U [mailto:Pau...@pe...] Sent: Thursday, August 07, 2008 11:27 AM To: Dillon, Ross; Robert Lipe Cc: gps...@li...; geo...@gt... Subject: RE: [Gpsbabel-misc] Newb Conversion question To quote from the FalconView help file... Falconview requires the GPS to transmit the Track Made Good and Ground Speed (VTG) sentences and at least one of the following: * Global Positioning System Fix Data (GGA) * Recommended Minimum Specific GPS/TRANSIT Data (RMC) * Geographic Position - Latitude/Longitude (GLL) sentences The VTG sentence contains speed and heading information whiel the GGA, RMC and GLL sentences all contain the latitude, longitude and Zulu time. If you have a choice, the GGA and RMC sentences are preferred over the GLL sentence... (all under NMEA in the help index) Looks like you need some way to get VTG sentences in there and you'll be set. Perhaps if you add "dummy" values for speed an heading before doing the import then GPS Babel will add VTG sentences. The fact that the info in the VTG is invalid shouldn't really affect what you're trying to do. Paul ________________________________ From: Dillon, Ross [mailto:Ros...@mt...] Sent: Thursday, August 07, 2008 2:12 PM To: Robert Lipe Cc: gps...@li...; Hastert Paul Col AF/A2U Subject: RE: [Gpsbabel-misc] Newb Conversion question Tried the new program (which by the way was number "older" than the one I had downloaded already...caused a little confusion). That said, still won't import into Falcon View (it provides nothing in the way of diagnostics so I can't tell why). Looks closer in form though as the output now has two alternating lines instead of just one (first two shown below) but not three like the sample. Problem is I don't know what is required/expected by FalconView and what is chaff, but... $GPRMC,023230,V,3559.745,N,11014.57,W,0.00,0.00,010070,,*12 $GPGGA, 023230, 3559.745,N,11014.57,W,0,00,0.0,9493.000,M,0.0,M,,*SA I'm kinda running out of time on this...ideas? Ross "Roscoe" Dillon Senior Engineer Modern Technology Solutions Inc. ros...@mt... (702) 369-8920 x22 ________________________________ From: gps...@li... [mailto:gps...@li...] On Behalf Of Dillon, Ross Sent: Thursday, August 07, 2008 8:53 AM To: Robert Lipe Cc: gps...@li... Subject: Re: [Gpsbabel-misc] Newb Conversion question Appreciate the help Robert, but that didn't work either. Let me start over by defining "work". I am trying to import an aircraft track we recorded during a flight into a program called FalconView. FalconView apparently requires the input file to be in NMEA 0183 format, but the output files I'm getting don't look exactly like the sample files I was provided with the program. The sample files have three lines that repeat. They look like this: $GPRMC,225000,A,3856.5250,N,10650.1649,W,402.5,325.8,051198,011.2,E*6A $GPGGA,225000,3856.5250,N,10650.1649,W,1,04,2.4,8274.1,M,-20.1,M,,*43 $GPVTG,325.8,T,314.6,M,402.5,N,0745.5,K*72 The first two lines of my .csv file data looks like this: Time,LAT,LON, ALT 02:32:30.000,35.99,-110,25,9493 The first line of the GPSbabel-produced NMEA message looks like this: ---,$GPRMC,023230,V,3559.xx,N,11014.57,W,0.00,0.00,010070,,*0C FalconView will not import the file, saying that it's an invalid GPS file. Anyone out there familiar with FalconView that can help me? Thanks Ross "Roscoe" Dillon Senior Engineer Modern Technology Solutions Inc. ros...@mt... (702) 369-8920 x22 ________________________________ From: rob...@gm... [mailto:rob...@gm...] On Behalf Of Robert Lipe Sent: Wednesday, August 06, 2008 7:49 PM To: Dillon, Ross Cc: gps...@li... Subject: Re: [Gpsbabel-misc] Newb Conversion question On Wed, Aug 6, 2008 at 6:17 PM, Dillon, Ross <Ros...@mt...> wrote: I am in a time crunch to convert a spreadsheet list of data into a NMEA file. The spreadsheet has Lat, long and time and a bunch of other stuff as well that I don't think I need. The instructions I found aren't really helping me get started. Can someone help with a little push? Excel (or CSV) to NMEA. How? Thanks Probably the easiest way is to save your spreadsheet as a text file with column headers that describe the order of the column.; the column names can be found at http://www.gpsbabel.org/htmldoc-development/fmt_unicsv.html Now, in GPSBabel, read that text file of type "unicsv" and write it as NMEA. RJL |
From: Dillon, R. <Ros...@mt...> - 2008-08-07 15:51:43
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Appreciate the help Robert, but that didn't work either. Let me start over by defining "work". I am trying to import an aircraft track we recorded during a flight into a program called FalconView. FalconView apparently requires the input file to be in NMEA 0183 format, but the output files I'm getting don't look exactly like the sample files I was provided with the program. The sample files have three lines that repeat. They look like this: $GPRMC,225000,A,3856.5250,N,10650.1649,W,402.5,325.8,051198,011.2,E*6A $GPGGA,225000,3856.5250,N,10650.1649,W,1,04,2.4,8274.1,M,-20.1,M,,*43 $GPVTG,325.8,T,314.6,M,402.5,N,0745.5,K*72 The first two lines of my .csv file data looks like this: Time,LAT,LON, ALT 02:32:30.000,35.99,-110,25,9493 The first line of the GPSbabel-produced NMEA message looks like this: ---,$GPRMC,023230,V,3559.xx,N,11014.57,W,0.00,0.00,010070,,*0C FalconView will not import the file, saying that it's an invalid GPS file. Anyone out there familiar with FalconView that can help me? Thanks Ross "Roscoe" Dillon Senior Engineer Modern Technology Solutions Inc. ros...@mt... (702) 369-8920 x22 ________________________________ From: rob...@gm... [mailto:rob...@gm...] On Behalf Of Robert Lipe Sent: Wednesday, August 06, 2008 7:49 PM To: Dillon, Ross Cc: gps...@li... Subject: Re: [Gpsbabel-misc] Newb Conversion question On Wed, Aug 6, 2008 at 6:17 PM, Dillon, Ross <Ros...@mt...> wrote: I am in a time crunch to convert a spreadsheet list of data into a NMEA file. The spreadsheet has Lat, long and time and a bunch of other stuff as well that I don't think I need. The instructions I found aren't really helping me get started. Can someone help with a little push? Excel (or CSV) to NMEA. How? Thanks Probably the easiest way is to save your spreadsheet as a text file with column headers that describe the order of the column.; the column names can be found at http://www.gpsbabel.org/htmldoc-development/fmt_unicsv.html Now, in GPSBabel, read that text file of type "unicsv" and write it as NMEA. RJL |
From: Robert L. <rob...@gp...> - 2008-08-07 16:21:49
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On Thu, Aug 7, 2008 at 10:52 AM, Dillon, Ross <Ros...@mt...>wrote: > The first line of the GPSbabel-produced NMEA message looks like this: > > ---,$GPRMC,023230,V,3559.xx,N,11014.57,W,0.00,0.00,010070,,*0C > Rats. The 1.3.5 NMEA writer bug. I've put http://www.gpsbabel.org/blah/gpsbabel-1.3.4.zip up for you until I get get a new beta build up. RJL |
From: Dillon, R. <Ros...@mt...> - 2008-08-07 18:10:45
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Tried the new program (which by the way was number "older" than the one I had downloaded already...caused a little confusion). That said, still won't import into Falcon View (it provides nothing in the way of diagnostics so I can't tell why). Looks closer in form though as the output now has two alternating lines instead of just one (first two shown below) but not three like the sample. Problem is I don't know what is required/expected by FalconView and what is chaff, but... $GPRMC,023230,V,3559.745,N,11014.57,W,0.00,0.00,010070,,*12 $GPGGA, 023230, 3559.745,N,11014.57,W,0,00,0.0,9493.000,M,0.0,M,,*SA I'm kinda running out of time on this...ideas? Ross "Roscoe" Dillon Senior Engineer Modern Technology Solutions Inc. ros...@mt... (702) 369-8920 x22 ________________________________ From: gps...@li... [mailto:gps...@li...] On Behalf Of Dillon, Ross Sent: Thursday, August 07, 2008 8:53 AM To: Robert Lipe Cc: gps...@li... Subject: Re: [Gpsbabel-misc] Newb Conversion question Appreciate the help Robert, but that didn't work either. Let me start over by defining "work". I am trying to import an aircraft track we recorded during a flight into a program called FalconView. FalconView apparently requires the input file to be in NMEA 0183 format, but the output files I'm getting don't look exactly like the sample files I was provided with the program. The sample files have three lines that repeat. They look like this: $GPRMC,225000,A,3856.5250,N,10650.1649,W,402.5,325.8,051198,011.2,E*6A $GPGGA,225000,3856.5250,N,10650.1649,W,1,04,2.4,8274.1,M,-20.1,M,,*43 $GPVTG,325.8,T,314.6,M,402.5,N,0745.5,K*72 The first two lines of my .csv file data looks like this: Time,LAT,LON, ALT 02:32:30.000,35.99,-110,25,9493 The first line of the GPSbabel-produced NMEA message looks like this: ---,$GPRMC,023230,V,3559.xx,N,11014.57,W,0.00,0.00,010070,,*0C FalconView will not import the file, saying that it's an invalid GPS file. Anyone out there familiar with FalconView that can help me? Thanks Ross "Roscoe" Dillon Senior Engineer Modern Technology Solutions Inc. ros...@mt... (702) 369-8920 x22 ________________________________ From: rob...@gm... [mailto:rob...@gm...] On Behalf Of Robert Lipe Sent: Wednesday, August 06, 2008 7:49 PM To: Dillon, Ross Cc: gps...@li... Subject: Re: [Gpsbabel-misc] Newb Conversion question On Wed, Aug 6, 2008 at 6:17 PM, Dillon, Ross <Ros...@mt...> wrote: I am in a time crunch to convert a spreadsheet list of data into a NMEA file. The spreadsheet has Lat, long and time and a bunch of other stuff as well that I don't think I need. The instructions I found aren't really helping me get started. Can someone help with a little push? Excel (or CSV) to NMEA. How? Thanks Probably the easiest way is to save your spreadsheet as a text file with column headers that describe the order of the column.; the column names can be found at http://www.gpsbabel.org/htmldoc-development/fmt_unicsv.html Now, in GPSBabel, read that text file of type "unicsv" and write it as NMEA. RJL |
From: Robert L. <rob...@gp...> - 2008-08-07 18:32:17
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My guess is tha tFalconview is looking at the 'is valid" flag. Since we dont' have any source data that *tells* us it's valid, we don't mark it as such. If so, the immediate workaround is to add a column called "fix" and populate it with a constant of "3d". With that, we write $GPRMC,023230.000,A,3559.400,N,11000.000,W,0.00,0.00,010070,,*19 $GPGGA,023230.000,3559.400,N,11000.000,W,1,00,0.0,25.000,M,0.0,M,,*47 $GPGSA,A,3,,,,,,,,,,,,,0.0,0.0,0.0*32 BTW, your sample from earlier contained a different number of fields in the data and the header... On Thu, Aug 7, 2008 at 1:11 PM, Dillon, Ross <Ros...@mt...>wrote: > Tried the new program (which by the way was number "older" than the one I > had downloaded already…caused a little confusion). > > > > That said, still won't import into Falcon View (it provides nothing in the > way of diagnostics so I can't tell why). Looks closer in form though as the > output now has two alternating lines instead of just one (first two shown > below) but not three like the sample. Problem is I don't know what is > required/expected by FalconView and what is chaff, but… > > > > $GPRMC,023230,V,3559.745,N,11014.57,W,0.00,0.00,010070,,*12 > > $GPGGA, 023230, 3559.745,N,11014.57,W,0,00,0.0,9493.000,M,0.0,M,,*SA > > > > I'm kinda running out of time on this...ideas? > > > > *Ross "Roscoe" Dillon* > *Senior Engineer > Modern Technology Solutions Inc.** > **ros...@mt... > (702) 369-8920 x22* > ------------------------------ > > *From:* gps...@li... [mailto: > gps...@li...] *On Behalf Of *Dillon, Ross > *Sent:* Thursday, August 07, 2008 8:53 AM > *To:* Robert Lipe > > *Cc:* gps...@li... > *Subject:* Re: [Gpsbabel-misc] Newb Conversion question > > > > Appreciate the help Robert, but that didn't work either. > > > > Let me start over by defining "work". I am trying to import an aircraft > track we recorded during a flight into a program called FalconView. > FalconView apparently requires the input file to be in NMEA 0183 format, > but the output files I'm getting don't look exactly like the sample files I > was provided with the program. > > > > The sample files have three lines that repeat. They look like this: > > $GPRMC,225000,A,3856.5250,N,10650.1649,W,402.5,325.8,051198,011.2,E*6A > > $GPGGA,225000,3856.5250,N,10650.1649,W,1,04,2.4,8274.1,M,-20.1,M,,*43 > > $GPVTG,325.8,T,314.6,M,402.5,N,0745.5,K*72 > > > > The first two lines of my .csv file data looks like this: > > Time,LAT,LON, ALT > > 02:32:30.000,35.99,-110,25,9493 > > > > The first line of the GPSbabel-produced NMEA message looks like this: > > ---,$GPRMC,023230,V,3559.xx,N,11014.57,W,0.00,0.00,010070,,*0C > > > > FalconView will not import the file, saying that it's an invalid GPS file. > > > > Anyone out there familiar with FalconView that can help me? > > > > Thanks > > > > *Ross "Roscoe" Dillon* > *Senior Engineer > Modern Technology Solutions Inc.** > **ros...@mt... > (702) 369-8920 x22* > ------------------------------ > > *From:* rob...@gm... [mailto:rob...@gm...] *On Behalf Of *Robert > Lipe > *Sent:* Wednesday, August 06, 2008 7:49 PM > *To:* Dillon, Ross > *Cc:* gps...@li... > *Subject:* Re: [Gpsbabel-misc] Newb Conversion question > > > > > > On Wed, Aug 6, 2008 at 6:17 PM, Dillon, Ross <Ros...@mt...> > wrote: > > I am in a time crunch to convert a spreadsheet list of data into a NMEA > file. The spreadsheet has Lat, long and time and a bunch of other stuff as > well that I don't think I need. > > > > The instructions I found aren't really helping me get started. Can someone > help with a little push? > > > > Excel (or CSV) to NMEA. How? Thanks > > > Probably the easiest way is to save your spreadsheet as a text file with > column headers that describe the order of the column.; the column names can > be found at http://www.gpsbabel.org/htmldoc-development/fmt_unicsv.html > > Now, in GPSBabel, read that text file of type "unicsv" and write it as > NMEA. > > RJL > > > |
From: Robert L. <rob...@gp...> - 2008-08-07 18:46:36
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On Thu, Aug 7, 2008 at 1:26 PM, Hastert Paul Col AF/A2U < Pau...@pe...> wrote: > > > *Falconview requires the GPS to transmit the Track Made Good and Ground > Speed (VTG) sentences and at least one of the following:* > ** > Weird. > > Looks like you need some way to get VTG sentences in there and you'll be > set. Perhaps if you add "dummy" values for speed an heading before doing > the import then GPS Babel will add VTG sentences. The fact that the info in > the VTG is invalid shouldn't really affect what you're trying to do. > OK, so add a column "speed" and fill that column with the constant "1". We then dutifully create VTGs. Time,LAT,LON,ALT,fix,speed 02:32:30.000,35.99,-110,25,3d,1 $GPRMC,023230.000,A,3559.400,N,11000.000,W,1.94,0.00,010070,,*15 $GPGGA,023230.000,3559.400,N,11000.000,W,1,00,0.0,25.000,M,0.0,M,,*47 $GPVTG,0.000,T,0,M,1.944,N,3.600,K*5D $GPGSA,A,3,,,,,,,,,,,,,0.0,0.0,0.0*32 |
From: Dillon, R. <Ros...@mt...> - 2008-08-07 19:08:41
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OK...I added two dummy columns to my CSV file: HEAD (360) and SPEED (120). The resulting NMEA message added a third sentence as expected: $GPVTG,360.000,T,0,M,233.261,N,432.000,K*57 And it still didn't import... Ross "Roscoe" Dillon Senior Engineer Modern Technology Solutions Inc. ros...@mt... (702) 369-8920 x22 ________________________________ From: rob...@gm... [mailto:rob...@gm...] On Behalf Of Robert Lipe Sent: Thursday, August 07, 2008 11:47 AM To: Hastert Paul Col AF/A2U Cc: Dillon, Ross; gps...@li...; geo...@gt... Subject: Re: [Gpsbabel-misc] Newb Conversion question On Thu, Aug 7, 2008 at 1:26 PM, Hastert Paul Col AF/A2U <Pau...@pe...> wrote: Falconview requires the GPS to transmit the Track Made Good and Ground Speed (VTG) sentences and at least one of the following: Weird. Looks like you need some way to get VTG sentences in there and you'll be set. Perhaps if you add "dummy" values for speed an heading before doing the import then GPS Babel will add VTG sentences. The fact that the info in the VTG is invalid shouldn't really affect what you're trying to do. OK, so add a column "speed" and fill that column with the constant "1". We then dutifully create VTGs. Time,LAT,LON,ALT,fix,speed 02:32:30.000,35.99,-110,25,3d,1 $GPRMC,023230.000,A,3559.400,N,11000.000,W,1.94,0.00,010070,,*15 $GPGGA,023230.000,3559.400,N,11000.000,W,1,00,0.0,25.000,M,0.0,M,,*47 $GPVTG,0.000,T,0,M,1.944,N,3.600,K*5D $GPGSA,A,3,,,,,,,,,,,,,0.0,0.0,0.0*32 |
From: Dillon, R. <Ros...@mt...> - 2008-08-07 19:26:52
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The error log said nothing of value. The "---" was a bug in the software that was corrected. With my input file having lat, lon, time, speed, head, alt, I get the following (all together for clarity): $GPRMC,023230,V,3559.745,N,11014.57,W,0.00,0.00,010070,,*12 $GPGGA, 023230, 3559.745,N,11014.57,W,0,00,0.0,9493.000,M,0.0,M,,*SA $GPVTG,360.000,T,0,M,233.261,N,432.000,K*57 (it was pointed out that maybe "360" was an invalid choice for a heading...I'll correct and check again) Otherwise, do you see anything out of sorts here? Ross "Roscoe" Dillon Senior Engineer Modern Technology Solutions Inc. ros...@mt... (702) 369-8920 x22 ________________________________ From: George Menhorn [mailto:geo...@gt...] Sent: Thursday, August 07, 2008 12:18 PM To: Dillon, Ross Cc: Robert Lipe; Hastert Paul Col AF/A2U; gps...@li... Subject: Re: [Gpsbabel-misc] Newb Conversion question Ross, In your original message you said: The first line of the GPSbabel-produced NMEA message looks like this: ---,$GPRMC,023230,V,3559.xx,N,11014.57,W,0.00,0.00,010070,,*0C Can you get rid of the "---," at the beginning of the sentences? Also, you can check FalconView's error log to see if there is anything help there (\pfps\falcon\err_log.txt) -- George Dillon, Ross wrote: OK...I added two dummy columns to my CSV file: HEAD (360) and SPEED (120). The resulting NMEA message added a third sentence as expected: $GPVTG,360.000,T,0,M,233.261,N,432.000,K*57 And it still didn't import... Ross "Roscoe" Dillon Senior Engineer Modern Technology Solutions Inc. ros...@mt... (702) 369-8920 x22 ________________________________ From: rob...@gm... [mailto:rob...@gm...] On Behalf Of Robert Lipe Sent: Thursday, August 07, 2008 11:47 AM To: Hastert Paul Col AF/A2U Cc: Dillon, Ross; gps...@li...; geo...@gt... Subject: Re: [Gpsbabel-misc] Newb Conversion question On Thu, Aug 7, 2008 at 1:26 PM, Hastert Paul Col AF/A2U <Pau...@pe...> wrote: Falconview requires the GPS to transmit the Track Made Good and Ground Speed (VTG) sentences and at least one of the following: Weird. Looks like you need some way to get VTG sentences in there and you'll be set. Perhaps if you add "dummy" values for speed an heading before doing the import then GPS Babel will add VTG sentences. The fact that the info in the VTG is invalid shouldn't really affect what you're trying to do. OK, so add a column "speed" and fill that column with the constant "1". We then dutifully create VTGs. Time,LAT,LON,ALT,fix,speed 02:32:30.000,35.99,-110,25,3d,1 $GPRMC,023230.000,A,3559.400,N,11000.000,W,1.94,0.00,010070,,*15 $GPGGA,023230.000,3559.400,N,11000.000,W,1,00,0.0,25.000,M,0.0,M,,*47 $GPVTG,0.000,T,0,M,1.944,N,3.600,K*5D $GPGSA,A,3,,,,,,,,,,,,,0.0,0.0,0.0*32 |
From: Jeff W. <jwe...@ac...> - 2008-08-07 20:01:17
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A few other possibilities: The example RMC message below has a status value "V", meaning void, and the GGA message has a fix quality value "0", meaning "invalid." It's possible FalconView is paying attention to these fields and therefore discarding the fixes. Try "A" and "1", respectively. GPSbabel seems to be putting out a pre-NMEA 2.3 version of the RMC message. Post 2.3, there's an extra field right before the final checksum, "FAA Mode Indicator", which should be "A" or "D" to indicate a good fix. See http://www.gpsinformation.org/dale/nmea.htm#2.3 Jeff Westbrook On Thu, Aug 7, 2008 at 12:28 PM, Dillon, Ross <Ros...@mt...>wrote: > The error log said nothing of value. > > > > The "---" was a bug in the software that was corrected. With my input file > having lat, lon, time, speed, head, alt, I get the following (all together > for clarity): > > > > $GPRMC,023230,V,3559.745,N,11014.57,W,0.00,0.00,010070,,*12 > > $GPGGA, 023230, 3559.745,N,11014.57,W,0,00,0.0,9493.000,M,0.0,M,,*SA > > $GPVTG,360.000,T,0,M,233.261,N,432.000,K*57 > > > > (it was pointed out that maybe "360" was an invalid choice for a > heading…I'll correct and check again) > > > > Otherwise, do you see anything out of sorts here? > > > > > > *Ross "Roscoe" Dillon* > *Senior Engineer > Modern Technology Solutions Inc.** > **ros...@mt... > (702) 369-8920 x22* > ------------------------------ > > *From:* George Menhorn [mailto:geo...@gt...] > *Sent:* Thursday, August 07, 2008 12:18 PM > *To:* Dillon, Ross > *Cc:* Robert Lipe; Hastert Paul Col AF/A2U; > gps...@li... > *Subject:* Re: [Gpsbabel-misc] Newb Conversion question > > > > Ross, > > In your original message you said: > > The first line of the GPSbabel-produced NMEA message looks like this: > > ---,$GPRMC,023230,V,3559.xx,N,11014.57,W,0.00,0.00,010070,,*0C > > Can you get rid of the "---," at the beginning of the sentences? Also, you > can check FalconView's error log to see if there is anything help there > (\pfps\falcon\err_log.txt) > > -- > George > > Dillon, Ross wrote: > > OK…I added two dummy columns to my CSV file: HEAD (360) and SPEED (120). > The resulting NMEA message added a third sentence as expected: > > $GPVTG,360.000,T,0,M,233.261,N,432.000,K*57 > > > > And it still didn't import… > > > > *Ross "Roscoe" Dillon* > *Senior Engineer > Modern Technology Solutions Inc.** > **ros...@mt... > (702) 369-8920 x22* > ------------------------------ > > *From:* rob...@gm... [mailto:rob...@gm...<rob...@gm...>] > *On Behalf Of *Robert Lipe > *Sent:* Thursday, August 07, 2008 11:47 AM > *To:* Hastert Paul Col AF/A2U > *Cc:* Dillon, Ross; gps...@li...; > geo...@gt... > *Subject:* Re: [Gpsbabel-misc] Newb Conversion question > > > > > > On Thu, Aug 7, 2008 at 1:26 PM, Hastert Paul Col AF/A2U < > Pau...@pe...> wrote: > > > > *Falconview requires the GPS to transmit the Track Made Good and Ground > Speed (VTG) sentences and at least one of the following:* > > > Weird. > > > > > > Looks like you need some way to get VTG sentences in there and you'll be > set. Perhaps if you add "dummy" values for speed an heading before doing > the import then GPS Babel will add VTG sentences. The fact that the info in > the VTG is invalid shouldn't really affect what you're trying to do. > > > > OK, so add a column "speed" and fill that column with the constant "1". We > then dutifully create VTGs. > > Time,LAT,LON,ALT,fix,speed > 02:32:30.000,35.99,-110,25,3d,1 > > $GPRMC,023230.000,A,3559.400,N,11000.000,W,1.94,0.00,010070,,*15 > $GPGGA,023230.000,3559.400,N,11000.000,W,1,00,0.0,25.000,M,0.0,M,,*47 > $GPVTG,0.000,T,0,M,1.944,N,3.600,K*5D > $GPGSA,A,3,,,,,,,,,,,,,0.0,0.0,0.0*32 > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------- > This SF.Net email is sponsored by the Moblin Your Move Developer's > challenge > Build the coolest Linux based applications with Moblin SDK & win great > prizes > Grand prize is a trip for two to an Open Source event anywhere in the world > http://moblin-contest.org/redirect.php?banner_id=100&url=/ > _______________________________________________ > Gpsbabel-misc mailing list http://www.gpsbabel.org > Gps...@li... > To unsubscribe, change list options, or see archives, visit: > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/gpsbabel-misc > > |
From: Dillon, R. <Ros...@mt...> - 2008-09-03 22:57:56
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Alex Mottram supplied the following batch file content on the web page: @echo off gpsbabel.exe -i gpx -f %1 -o s_and_t -F %1.csv That worked great (especially that it drops the output file in the same folder as the input file) except (as he says himself) that it appends rather than replaces the extension. So to actually replace the extension in XP or NT, Alex then provided the following code: @echo off gpsbabel.exe -i gpx -f %1 -o s_and_t -F "%~n1".csv Problem is, this places the output file in the same folder with the batch file, rather than where the input file came from. I wasn't familiar with the syntax used, but I suspect the ~n strips the path as well as the extension. Ideas? Ross "Roscoe" Dillon |
From: JB L. <jb...@gm...> - 2008-09-04 02:36:18
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You probably want to use %~dpn1 That gives you the "D"rive "P"ath and "N"ame of the first parameter passed to the batch file. On Wed, Sep 3, 2008 at 5:59 PM, Dillon, Ross <Ros...@mt...>wrote: > Alex Mottram supplied the following batch file content on the web page: > > > > @echo off > > gpsbabel.exe -i gpx -f %1 -o s_and_t -F %1.csv > > > > That worked great (especially that it drops the output file in the same > folder as the input file) > > except (as he says himself) that it appends rather than replaces the > extension. > > > > So to actually replace the extension in XP or NT, Alex then provided the > following code: > > > > @echo off > > gpsbabel.exe -i gpx -f %1 -o s_and_t -F "%~n1".csv > > > > Problem is, this places the output file in the same folder with the batch > file, rather than where the input file came from. I wasn't familiar with > the syntax used, but I suspect the ~n strips the path as well as the > extension. Ideas? > > > > Ross "Roscoe" Dillon > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------- > This SF.Net email is sponsored by the Moblin Your Move Developer's > challenge > Build the coolest Linux based applications with Moblin SDK & win great > prizes > Grand prize is a trip for two to an Open Source event anywhere in the world > http://moblin-contest.org/redirect.php?banner_id=100&url=/ > _______________________________________________ > Gpsbabel-misc mailing list http://www.gpsbabel.org > Gps...@li... > To unsubscribe, change list options, or see archives, visit: > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/gpsbabel-misc > > -- --------------------------------------------------------------------- http://randombodger.blogspot.com |
From: Robert L. <rob...@gm...> - 2008-09-04 04:09:13
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If that pans out (I'm windows-free for a while) and you can suggest better words for that page, let me know and I'll edit them next week. RJL On Wed, Sep 3, 2008 at 9:36 PM, JB Lewis <jb...@gm...> wrote: > You probably want to use %~dpn1 That gives you the "D"rive "P"ath and > "N"ame of the first parameter passed to the batch file. > > On Wed, Sep 3, 2008 at 5:59 PM, Dillon, Ross <Ros...@mt...>wrote: > >> Alex Mottram supplied the following batch file content on the web page: >> >> >> >> @echo off >> >> gpsbabel.exe -i gpx -f %1 -o s_and_t -F %1.csv >> >> >> >> That worked great (especially that it drops the output file in the same >> folder as the input file) >> >> except (as he says himself) that it appends rather than replaces the >> extension. >> >> >> >> So to actually replace the extension in XP or NT, Alex then provided the >> following code: >> >> >> >> @echo off >> >> gpsbabel.exe -i gpx -f %1 -o s_and_t -F "%~n1".csv >> >> >> >> Problem is, this places the output file in the same folder with the batch >> file, rather than where the input file came from. I wasn't familiar with >> the syntax used, but I suspect the ~n strips the path as well as the >> extension. Ideas? >> >> >> >> Ross "Roscoe" Dillon >> >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------- >> This SF.Net email is sponsored by the Moblin Your Move Developer's >> challenge >> Build the coolest Linux based applications with Moblin SDK & win great >> prizes >> Grand prize is a trip for two to an Open Source event anywhere in the >> world >> http://moblin-contest.org/redirect.php?banner_id=100&url=/ >> _______________________________________________ >> Gpsbabel-misc mailing list http://www.gpsbabel.org >> Gps...@li... >> To unsubscribe, change list options, or see archives, visit: >> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/gpsbabel-misc >> >> > > > -- > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > http://randombodger.blogspot.com > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------- > This SF.Net email is sponsored by the Moblin Your Move Developer's > challenge > Build the coolest Linux based applications with Moblin SDK & win great > prizes > Grand prize is a trip for two to an Open Source event anywhere in the world > http://moblin-contest.org/redirect.php?banner_id=100&url=/ > _______________________________________________ > Gpsbabel-misc mailing list http://www.gpsbabel.org > Gps...@li... > To unsubscribe, change list options, or see archives, visit: > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/gpsbabel-misc > > |
From: Dillon, R. <Ros...@mt...> - 2008-09-04 16:21:26
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That did the trick. Thanks Robert, somebody else may want to check it, but the web page should be corrected to reflect the following: @echo off gpsbabel.exe -i gpx -f %1 -o s_and_t -F "%~dpn1".csv Ross "Roscoe" Dillon Senior Engineer Modern Technology Solutions Inc. ros...@mt... (702) 369-8920 x22 ________________________________ From: JB Lewis [mailto:jb...@gm...] Sent: Wednesday, September 03, 2008 7:36 PM To: Dillon, Ross Cc: gps...@li... Subject: Re: [Gpsbabel-misc] Drag and drop question You probably want to use %~dpn1 That gives you the "D"rive "P"ath and "N"ame of the first parameter passed to the batch file. On Wed, Sep 3, 2008 at 5:59 PM, Dillon, Ross <Ros...@mt...> wrote: Alex Mottram supplied the following batch file content on the web page: @echo off gpsbabel.exe -i gpx -f %1 -o s_and_t -F %1.csv That worked great (especially that it drops the output file in the same folder as the input file) except (as he says himself) that it appends rather than replaces the extension. So to actually replace the extension in XP or NT, Alex then provided the following code: @echo off gpsbabel.exe -i gpx -f %1 -o s_and_t -F "%~n1".csv Problem is, this places the output file in the same folder with the batch file, rather than where the input file came from. I wasn't familiar with the syntax used, but I suspect the ~n strips the path as well as the extension. Ideas? Ross "Roscoe" Dillon ------------------------------------------------------------------------ - This SF.Net email is sponsored by the Moblin Your Move Developer's challenge Build the coolest Linux based applications with Moblin SDK & win great prizes Grand prize is a trip for two to an Open Source event anywhere in the world http://moblin-contest.org/redirect.php?banner_id=100&url=/ _______________________________________________ Gpsbabel-misc mailing list http://www.gpsbabel.org Gps...@li... To unsubscribe, change list options, or see archives, visit: https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/gpsbabel-misc -- --------------------------------------------------------------------- http://randombodger.blogspot.com |
From: Holger J. <mai...@ka...> - 2010-12-27 09:20:20
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Dillon, Ross schrieb am 04.09.2008 17:32: > That did the trick. Thanks > > Robert, somebody else may want to check it, but the web page should be > corrected to reflect the following: > > > > @echo off > gpsbabel.exe -i gpx -f %1 -o s_and_t -F "%~dpn1".csv I just found the website for drag and drop with windows. http://www.gpsbabel.org/os/Windows_Drag_and_Drop.html The multifile version should be corrected to: @echo off for %%A in (%*) DO ( gpsbabel.exe -i gpx -f %%A -o s_and_t -F "%%~dpnA".csv } Thanks for supporting Wintec TES file. The Software from wintec is strange. :-) -- best regards Holger |
From: Robert L. <rob...@gp...> - 2010-12-27 14:50:55
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On Mon, Dec 27, 2010 at 3:16 AM, Holger Jeromin <mai...@ka...> wrote: > Dillon, Ross schrieb am 04.09.2008 17:32: > > That did the trick. Thanks > > > > Robert, somebody else may want to check it, but the web page should be > > corrected to reflect the following: > > > > > > > > @echo off > > gpsbabel.exe -i gpx -f %1 -o s_and_t -F "%~dpn1".csv > > I just found the website for drag and drop with windows. > http://www.gpsbabel.org/os/Windows_Drag_and_Drop.html > > The multifile version should be corrected to: > > @echo off > for %%A in (%*) DO ( > gpsbabel.exe -i gpx -f %%A -o s_and_t -F "%%~dpnA".csv > } > Thanx. The 1's will be replaced by A's in the next web push. > Thanks for supporting Wintec TES file. The Software from wintec is > strange. :-) > Glad someone found it useful. We haven't had a lot of feedback on that format. RJL |
From: Holger J. <mai...@ka...> - 2010-12-27 15:08:23
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Robert Lipe schrieb am 27.12.2010 15:50: > On Mon, Dec 27, 2010 at 3:16 AM, Holger Jeromin <mai...@ka... > <mailto:mai...@ka...>> wrote: > Dillon, Ross schrieb am 04.09.2008 17:32: > > That did the trick. Thanks > > Robert, somebody else may want to check it, but the web page should be > > corrected to reflect the following: > > @echo off > > gpsbabel.exe -i gpx -f %1 -o s_and_t -F "%~dpn1".csv > I just found the website for drag and drop with windows. > http://www.gpsbabel.org/os/Windows_Drag_and_Drop.html > The multifile version should be corrected to: > > @echo off > for %%A in (%*) DO ( > gpsbabel.exe -i gpx -f %%A -o s_and_t -F "%%~dpnA".csv > } > Thanx. The 1's will be replaced by A's in the next web push. And double %% please. I have no clue why :-) Thanks for your quick reply... >> Thanks for supporting Wintec TES file. The Software from wintec is >> strange. :-) > Glad someone found it useful. We haven't had a lot of feedback on that > format. -- regards Holger |
From: Dillon, R. <Ros...@mt...> - 2008-08-07 21:44:38
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Which zero in the GGA message is the one you are referring to? There are four... Ross "Roscoe" Dillon Senior Engineer Modern Technology Solutions Inc. ros...@mt... (702) 369-8920 x22 ________________________________ From: gps...@li... [mailto:gps...@li...] On Behalf Of Jeff Westbrook Sent: Thursday, August 07, 2008 1:01 PM To: Dillon, Ross Cc: gps...@li... Subject: Re: [Gpsbabel-misc] Newb Conversion question A few other possibilities: The example RMC message below has a status value "V", meaning void, and the GGA message has a fix quality value "0", meaning "invalid." It's possible FalconView is paying attention to these fields and therefore discarding the fixes. Try "A" and "1", respectively. GPSbabel seems to be putting out a pre-NMEA 2.3 version of the RMC message. Post 2.3, there's an extra field right before the final checksum, "FAA Mode Indicator", which should be "A" or "D" to indicate a good fix. See http://www.gpsinformation.org/dale/nmea.htm#2.3 Jeff Westbrook On Thu, Aug 7, 2008 at 12:28 PM, Dillon, Ross <Ros...@mt...> wrote: The error log said nothing of value. The "---" was a bug in the software that was corrected. With my input file having lat, lon, time, speed, head, alt, I get the following (all together for clarity): $GPRMC,023230,V,3559.745,N,11014.57,W,0.00,0.00,010070,,*12 $GPGGA, 023230, 3559.745,N,11014.57,W,0,00,0.0,9493.000,M,0.0,M,,*SA $GPVTG,360.000,T,0,M,233.261,N,432.000,K*57 (it was pointed out that maybe "360" was an invalid choice for a heading...I'll correct and check again) Otherwise, do you see anything out of sorts here? Ross "Roscoe" Dillon ________________________________ From: George Menhorn [mailto:geo...@gt...] Sent: Thursday, August 07, 2008 12:18 PM To: Dillon, Ross Cc: Robert Lipe; Hastert Paul Col AF/A2U; gps...@li... Subject: Re: [Gpsbabel-misc] Newb Conversion question Ross, In your original message you said: The first line of the GPSbabel-produced NMEA message looks like this: ---,$GPRMC,023230,V,3559.xx,N,11014.57,W,0.00,0.00,010070,,*0C Can you get rid of the "---," at the beginning of the sentences? Also, you can check FalconView's error log to see if there is anything help there (\pfps\falcon\err_log.txt) -- George Dillon, Ross wrote: OK...I added two dummy columns to my CSV file: HEAD (360) and SPEED (120). The resulting NMEA message added a third sentence as expected: $GPVTG,360.000,T,0,M,233.261,N,432.000,K*57 And it still didn't import... Ross "Roscoe" Dillon ________________________________ From: rob...@gm... [mailto:rob...@gm...] On Behalf Of Robert Lipe Sent: Thursday, August 07, 2008 11:47 AM To: Hastert Paul Col AF/A2U Cc: Dillon, Ross; gps...@li...; geo...@gt... Subject: Re: [Gpsbabel-misc] Newb Conversion question On Thu, Aug 7, 2008 at 1:26 PM, Hastert Paul Col AF/A2U <Pau...@pe...> wrote: Falconview requires the GPS to transmit the Track Made Good and Ground Speed (VTG) sentences and at least one of the following: Weird. Looks like you need some way to get VTG sentences in there and you'll be set. Perhaps if you add "dummy" values for speed an heading before doing the import then GPS Babel will add VTG sentences. The fact that the info in the VTG is invalid shouldn't really affect what you're trying to do. OK, so add a column "speed" and fill that column with the constant "1". We then dutifully create VTGs. Time,LAT,LON,ALT,fix,speed 02:32:30.000,35.99,-110,25,3d,1 $GPRMC,023230.000,A,3559.400,N,11000.000,W,1.94,0.00,010070,,*15 $GPGGA,023230.000,3559.400,N,11000.000,W,1,00,0.0,25.000,M,0.0,M,,*47 $GPVTG,0.000,T,0,M,1.944,N,3.600,K*5D $GPGSA,A,3,,,,,,,,,,,,,0.0,0.0,0.0*32 ------------------------------------------------------------------------ - This SF.Net email is sponsored by the Moblin Your Move Developer's challenge Build the coolest Linux based applications with Moblin SDK & win great prizes Grand prize is a trip for two to an Open Source event anywhere in the world http://moblin-contest.org/redirect.php?banner_id=100&url=/ _______________________________________________ Gpsbabel-misc mailing list http://www.gpsbabel.org Gps...@li... To unsubscribe, change list options, or see archives, visit: https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/gpsbabel-misc |
From: Dillon, R. <Ros...@mt...> - 2008-08-07 16:27:31
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Thanks Robert. I'll take a look at it later. Ross "Roscoe" Dillon Senior Engineer Modern Technology Solutions Inc. ros...@mt... (702) 369-8920 x22 ________________________________ From: rob...@gm... [mailto:rob...@gm...] On Behalf Of Robert Lipe Sent: Thursday, August 07, 2008 9:22 AM To: Dillon, Ross Cc: gps...@li... Subject: Re: [Gpsbabel-misc] Newb Conversion question On Thu, Aug 7, 2008 at 10:52 AM, Dillon, Ross <Ros...@mt...> wrote: The first line of the GPSbabel-produced NMEA message looks like this: ---,$GPRMC,023230,V,3559.xx,N,11014.57,W,0.00,0.00,010070,,*0C Rats. The 1.3.5 NMEA writer bug. I've put http://www.gpsbabel.org/blah/gpsbabel-1.3.4.zip up for you until I get get a new beta build up. RJL |
From: Dave P. <da...@dp...> - 2008-08-07 17:21:40
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Robert Lipe wrote: > > > On Thu, Aug 7, 2008 at 10:52 AM, Dillon, Ross <Ros...@mt... > <mailto:Ros...@mt...>> wrote: > > The first line of the GPSbabel-produced NMEA message looks like this: > > ---,$GPRMC,023230,V,3559.xx,N,11014.57,W,0.00,0.00,010070,,*0C > > > Rats. The 1.3.5 NMEA writer bug. You make it sound interesting Robert! Any details on that (overview or link perhaps?) regards -- Dave Pawson XSLT XSL-FO FAQ. http://www.dpawson.co.uk |
From: Robert L. <rob...@gp...> - 2008-08-07 17:24:00
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On Thu, Aug 7, 2008 at 12:12 PM, Dave Pawson <da...@dp...> wrote: > Robert Lipe wrote: > >> >> Rats. The 1.3.5 NMEA writer bug. >> > > You make it sound interesting Robert! It's really not very interesting. I just plain screwed up the code with an "obvious" change and a hole in the test suite means it didn't get caught. > > Any details on that (overview or link perhaps?) > It's been discussed on the list a few times. It went for months unnoticed then just in the last week or two, it seems that every is wanting to write NMEA... Here's one from our archive<https://sourceforge.net/mailarchive/message.php?msg_name=82a839a50807261111i7f851520m4dc15bdaa6df64fe%40mail.gmail.com> . |
From: Dillon, R. <Ros...@mt...> - 2008-08-07 18:34:42
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Oops, one of those commas was supposed to be a decimal: Time,LAT,LON,ALT 02:32:30.000,35.99,-110.25,9493 Ross "Roscoe" Dillon Senior Engineer Modern Technology Solutions Inc. ros...@mt... (702) 369-8920 x22 ________________________________ From: rob...@gm... [mailto:rob...@gm...] On Behalf Of Robert Lipe Sent: Thursday, August 07, 2008 11:32 AM To: Dillon, Ross Cc: gps...@li...; pau...@pe... Subject: Re: [Gpsbabel-misc] Newb Conversion question My guess is tha tFalconview is looking at the 'is valid" flag. Since we dont' have any source data that *tells* us it's valid, we don't mark it as such. If so, the immediate workaround is to add a column called "fix" and populate it with a constant of "3d". With that, we write $GPRMC,023230.000,A,3559.400,N,11000.000,W,0.00,0.00,010070,,*19 $GPGGA,023230.000,3559.400,N,11000.000,W,1,00,0.0,25.000,M,0.0,M,,*47 $GPGSA,A,3,,,,,,,,,,,,,0.0,0.0,0.0*32 BTW, your sample from earlier contained a different number of fields in the data and the header... On Thu, Aug 7, 2008 at 1:11 PM, Dillon, Ross <Ros...@mt...> wrote: Tried the new program (which by the way was number "older" than the one I had downloaded already...caused a little confusion). That said, still won't import into Falcon View (it provides nothing in the way of diagnostics so I can't tell why). Looks closer in form though as the output now has two alternating lines instead of just one (first two shown below) but not three like the sample. Problem is I don't know what is required/expected by FalconView and what is chaff, but... $GPRMC,023230,V,3559.745,N,11014.57,W,0.00,0.00,010070,,*12 $GPGGA, 023230, 3559.745,N,11014.57,W,0,00,0.0,9493.000,M,0.0,M,,*SA I'm kinda running out of time on this...ideas? Ross "Roscoe" Dillon Senior Engineer Modern Technology Solutions Inc. ros...@mt... (702) 369-8920 x22 ________________________________ From: gps...@li... [mailto:gps...@li...] On Behalf Of Dillon, Ross Sent: Thursday, August 07, 2008 8:53 AM To: Robert Lipe Cc: gps...@li... Subject: Re: [Gpsbabel-misc] Newb Conversion question Appreciate the help Robert, but that didn't work either. Let me start over by defining "work". I am trying to import an aircraft track we recorded during a flight into a program called FalconView. FalconView apparently requires the input file to be in NMEA 0183 format, but the output files I'm getting don't look exactly like the sample files I was provided with the program. The sample files have three lines that repeat. They look like this: $GPRMC,225000,A,3856.5250,N,10650.1649,W,402.5,325.8,051198,011.2,E*6A $GPGGA,225000,3856.5250,N,10650.1649,W,1,04,2.4,8274.1,M,-20.1,M,,*43 $GPVTG,325.8,T,314.6,M,402.5,N,0745.5,K*72 The first two lines of my .csv file data looks like this: Time,LAT,LON, ALT 02:32:30.000,35.99,-110,25,9493 The first line of the GPSbabel-produced NMEA message looks like this: ---,$GPRMC,023230,V,3559.xx,N,11014.57,W,0.00,0.00,010070,,*0C FalconView will not import the file, saying that it's an invalid GPS file. Anyone out there familiar with FalconView that can help me? Thanks Ross "Roscoe" Dillon Senior Engineer Modern Technology Solutions Inc. ros...@mt... (702) 369-8920 x22 ________________________________ From: rob...@gm... [mailto:rob...@gm...] On Behalf Of Robert Lipe Sent: Wednesday, August 06, 2008 7:49 PM To: Dillon, Ross Cc: gps...@li... Subject: Re: [Gpsbabel-misc] Newb Conversion question On Wed, Aug 6, 2008 at 6:17 PM, Dillon, Ross <Ros...@mt...> wrote: I am in a time crunch to convert a spreadsheet list of data into a NMEA file. The spreadsheet has Lat, long and time and a bunch of other stuff as well that I don't think I need. The instructions I found aren't really helping me get started. Can someone help with a little push? Excel (or CSV) to NMEA. How? Thanks Probably the easiest way is to save your spreadsheet as a text file with column headers that describe the order of the column.; the column names can be found at http://www.gpsbabel.org/htmldoc-development/fmt_unicsv.html Now, in GPSBabel, read that text file of type "unicsv" and write it as NMEA. RJL |
From: RL <rob...@ya...> - 2010-12-27 19:14:17
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<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.01 Transitional//EN"> <html> <head> <meta content="text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1" http-equiv="Content-Type"> <title></title> </head> <body bgcolor="#ffffff" text="#003333"> <br> My thanks to all who have helped get GPSBabel to the point it is. <br> ALthough I had a twenty year career in IT, I now own a semi-truck, a RV, and am shopping for a liveaboard sailboat. I travel continuously and will likely continue to do so for some time. The software and devices I use are various laptops, a USB GPS (NMEA 2.0), M$ S&T 2007, M$ S&T 2010, GEarth, OpenCPN (sourceforge), and a some excel SS that Geocode and convert CSV to KML, plus of course GPSBabel. All questions, comments, and suggestions welcomed... <br> <br> <br> That said, here's what I have to do to get a KML data file from S&T that's 'proper' or usable:<br> <br> 1. Ignore the "Microsoft Streets and Trips 2002-2007" format choice (Even Though S&T 2007 Is The Data Source!) and revert to "Microsoft Streets and Trips (pin/route reader" format. The 2002-2007 format produces gibberish inside the <name> </name> block and coordinates of 0.00000 for the <coordinates> </coordinates> block. The pin reader does not.<br> <br> 2. Select "Routes" in the translation options even though the route info is extraneous. A check mark appears in the grayed-out "waypoint" and "tracks" but without a check in the selectable "Routes" option, it produces the error "No Valid waypoints/routes/tracks translation specified". The waypoints contained in the S&T route is the only relevant data needed, and the only way to get it is too include the "route" as well...<br> <br> 3. Load the KML produced by GPSBabel into a text editor and do a search for <tilt>66</tilt> and replace with <tilt>0</tilt><br> globally. Then do another search and replace to add a <range>2000</range> block after the tilt block. <br> <br> 4. Load the KML file in GE and delete the "path" block from the folder and re-save the file...<br> <br> While viewing laterally in GE from ground zero can be interesting for an "armchair tourist" in the grand canyon or the harbor of New York if 3D buildings is turned on, trying to view or analyze the horizon and surroundings from ground level with basically 2D data obtained from the edge of space is definitely a concept for the "spatially challenged" at best... I am always interested only in the view from overhead of the delivery/pickup point, the RV park, the truckstop, or the marina in question. Waypoints are the data I save - the routes can and do change.<br> <br> So, <i><u>IMHO</u></i>, 'kml.c' needs to be updated to allow the 'options' of "Tilt" and "Range" be added to the <LookAt></LookAt> block in the output file instead of hardcoding tilt66 locked on the ground... <br> <br> Also, if anyone has suggestions on software or methods to 'minimize' and 'cleanup' a KML produced by GE so it is more readable and less verbose, please share...<br> <br> Again, 'Thanks' to all.<br> <br> </body> </html> |
From: Robert L. <rob...@gp...> - 2010-12-27 20:29:38
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Hi, and thanks for the kind words. > 1. Ignore the "Microsoft Streets and Trips 2002-2007" format choice (Even > Though S&T 2007 Is The Data Source!) and revert to "Microsoft Streets and > Trips (pin/route reader" format. The 2002-2007 format produces gibberish > inside the <name> </name> block and coordinates of 0.00000 for the > <coordinates> </coordinates> block. The pin reader does not. > The doc tries to explan that s_and_t is for writing waypoints TO the Streets and Trips. If you're trying to read est or axe files, msroute is indeed the correct one. (Better yet, use current S&T which eliminates all that junk and reads and writes GPX.) > 2. Select "Routes" in the translation options even though the route info is > extraneous. A check mark appears in the grayed-out "waypoint" and "tracks" > but without a check in the selectable "Routes" option, it produces the error > "No Valid waypoints/routes/tracks translation specified". The waypoints > contained in the S&T route is the only relevant data needed, and the only > way to get it is too include the "route" as well... > est and axe files contain sequenced data, so expressing them as routes is natural. > 3. Load the KML produced by GPSBabel into a text editor and do a search for > <tilt>66</tilt> and replace with <tilt>0</tilt> > globally. Then do another search and replace to add a <range>2000</range> > block after the tilt block. > Those are personal preferences. I'll consider making them tunable via command line, but it seems awfully specialized. We already take a lot of criticism for having too many options which leads to confusion. (See your own confusion about the difference between msroute vs. s_and_t, for example. :-) If you want to build a custom GPSBabel with your own constants wired to your usage pattern, it's a trivial change in kml_output_lookat() in kml.c. > 4. Load the KML file in GE and delete the "path" block from the folder and > re-save the file... > Probably if you set linestrings=0, that wouldn't be necessary. Also, if anyone has suggestions on software or methods to 'minimize' and > 'cleanup' a KML produced by GE so it is more readable and less verbose, > please share... > KML is just plain big. It's one of the most verbose formats we support and we produce and consume only a tiny percentage of all that can be expressed in KML. RJL |