From: Colin A. <col...@ho...> - 2007-05-10 07:35:50
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It's now about six weeks short of six months since 3.5 was released. And Eiffel Studio 6.0 will be released in about a month's time. So I think it's time to consider a new release soon. _________________________________________________________________ Could you be the guest MSN Movies presenter? Click Here to Audition http://www.lightscameraaudition.co.uk |
From: Eric B. <er...@go...> - 2007-05-10 07:48:53
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Colin Adams wrote: > It's now about six weeks short of six months since 3.5 was released. And > Eiffel Studio 6.0 will be released in about a month's time. So I think it's > time to consider a new release soon. Should it happen before or after the release of ISE 6.0? Before means that it can be included into ISE's delivery. After means that we can test it with the official version of ISE 6.0. -- Eric Bezault mailto:er...@go... http://www.gobosoft.com |
From: Colin A. <col...@ho...> - 2007-05-10 08:12:21
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I would suggest just before. That is, if Manu can provide a good estimate of when the last weekly pre-release of 6.0 is due, then we test Gobo thorougly the week before that on SE 1.2r7, GEC and ISE 5.6 and 5.7. Then when the (expected) last pre-release comes out, we have several days for checking against that. If it looks good, then release Gobo 3.6/4.0. If ISE then manage to break it before releasing 6.0, that's just tough. >From: Eric Bezault <er...@go...> >Colin Adams wrote: >>It's now about six weeks short of six months since 3.5 was released. And >>Eiffel Studio 6.0 will be released in about a month's time. So I think >>it's time to consider a new release soon. > >Should it happen before or after the release of ISE 6.0? >Before means that it can be included into ISE's delivery. >After means that we can test it with the official version of ISE 6.0. > >-- >Eric Bezault >mailto:er...@go... >http://www.gobosoft.com _________________________________________________________________ Play your part in making history - Email Britain! http://www.emailbritain.co.uk/ |
From: Jocelyn <li...@dj...> - 2007-05-10 08:14:12
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Hi The last release of Eiffel6.0 is "feature complete". http://www.eiffelroom.com/blog/manus_eiffel/eiffelstudio_6_0_coming_soon http://eiffelsoftware.origo.ethz.ch/downloads/builds/ So I guess this can be used to test gobo, and this way next release of Gobo could be included into ISE's delivery. -- Jocelyn On 5/10/2007 09:45 AM, Eric Bezault wrote: > Colin Adams wrote: > >> It's now about six weeks short of six months since 3.5 was released. And >> Eiffel Studio 6.0 will be released in about a month's time. So I think it's >> time to consider a new release soon. >> > > Should it happen before or after the release of ISE 6.0? > Before means that it can be included into ISE's delivery. > After means that we can test it with the official version of ISE 6.0. > > |
From: Eric B. <er...@go...> - 2007-05-10 09:59:24
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Jocelyn wrote: > Hi > The last release of Eiffel6.0 is "feature complete". > http://www.eiffelroom.com/blog/manus_eiffel/eiffelstudio_6_0_coming_soon > http://eiffelsoftware.origo.ethz.ch/downloads/builds/ > > So I guess this can be used to test gobo, and this way next release of > Gobo could be included into ISE's delivery. I don't care about "feature complete". It's unlikely that new features will be used in this release of Gobo. I'm more concerned about "bug free" (and "ECF free" ;-)). Remaining bugs are really a challenge because we have to find workarounds that work with all supported Eiffel compilers. -- Eric Bezault mailto:er...@go... http://www.gobosoft.com |
From: Jocelyn <li...@dj...> - 2007-05-10 10:54:52
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Hi All, > I don't care about "feature complete". It's unlikely that > new features will be used in this release of Gobo. Right, but at least no new features will be added which might raise new issues. > I'm more concerned about "bug free" (and "ECF free" ;-)). The advantage of testing against this "feature complete" release is to make sure no bug remains. > Remaining bugs are really a challenge because we have to > find workarounds that work with all supported Eiffel compilers. If there are bug which impact Gobo, this is easier to have them fixed by EiffelSoftware's team before the final 6.0 rather than trying to find workaround. Now, this is up to Eric and GoboEiffel team to decide. -- Jocelyn |
From: Eric B. <er...@go...> - 2007-05-10 11:21:54
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Jocelyn wrote: > Hi All, > >> I don't care about "feature complete". It's unlikely that >> new features will be used in this release of Gobo. > Right, but at least no new features will be added which might raise new > issues. > >> I'm more concerned about "bug free" (and "ECF free" ;-)). > > The advantage of testing against this "feature complete" release is to > make sure no bug remains. I would rather prefer spend time working, testing and debugging the Gobo package than testing EiffelStudio. But if ISE wants to test EiffelStudio with Gobo's code, you are welcome. >> Remaining bugs are really a challenge because we have to >> find workarounds that work with all supported Eiffel compilers. > > If there are bug which impact Gobo, this is easier to have them fixed by > EiffelSoftware's team before the final 6.0 rather than trying to find > workaround. We don't wait the release of Gobo to do that. What I'm concerned about is last minute bug discovery, which in my experience building the Gobo package happens quite often. -- Eric Bezault mailto:er...@go... http://www.gobosoft.com |
From: Eric B. <er...@go...> - 2007-05-12 08:07:57
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Eric Bezault wrote: > Jocelyn wrote: >> If there are bug which impact Gobo, this is easier to have them fixed by >> EiffelSoftware's team before the final 6.0 rather than trying to find >> workaround. > > We don't wait the release of Gobo to do that. What I'm > concerned about is last minute bug discovery, which in > my experience building the Gobo package happens quite > often. One solution could be that we release Gobo 3.6 just after the last release candidate of EiffelStudio 6.0, and then it's the responsibility of ISE to test that Gobo 3.6 still works with the official EiffelStudio 6.0. How does that sound? -- Eric Bezault mailto:er...@go... http://www.gobosoft.com |
From: Emmanuel S. [ES] <ma...@ei...> - 2007-05-12 16:32:13
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> One solution could be that we release Gobo 3.6 just after the > last release candidate of EiffelStudio 6.0, and then it's the > responsibility of ISE to test that Gobo 3.6 still works with > the official EiffelStudio 6.0. How does that sound? Sounds fine to me. Thanks, Manu |
From: Eric B. <er...@go...> - 2007-06-11 21:56:36
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Emmanuel Stapf [ES] wrote: >> One solution could be that we release Gobo 3.6 just after the >> last release candidate of EiffelStudio 6.0, and then it's the >> responsibility of ISE to test that Gobo 3.6 still works with >> the official EiffelStudio 6.0. How does that sound? > > Sounds fine to me. OK, I was waiting for the release candidates of EiffelStudio to show up before starting the next release of Gobo, but I just realized that there was no release candidates (at least they have not been advertised as such). Therefore I will try to hurry up and make a release of Gobo this week, before the "official" release of EiffelStudio 6.0. It would be nice if you could refrain from adding new stuff to Gobo SVN during this time. Thanks. -- Eric Bezault mailto:er...@go... http://www.gobosoft.com |
From: Colin A. <col...@ho...> - 2007-06-13 06:33:32
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>From: Eric Bezault <er...@go...> >to hurry up and make a release of Gobo this week, before the >"official" release of EiffelStudio 6.0. It would be nice if >you could refrain from adding new stuff to Gobo SVN during this >time. Thanks. I added two fixes on the night of the 12th, but this message only showed up on the morning of the 13th. _________________________________________________________________ Txt a lot? Get Messenger FREE on your mobile. https://livemessenger.mobile.uk.msn.com/ |
From: Bernd S. <ber...@in...> - 2007-05-10 08:19:10
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AFAIK, current Gobo SVN does not include major new functionality, but significant bug-fixes. So, 3.6 will not contain may experimental features that need extensive testing, but contains some improvements that I would love to see included in 6.0. Releasing 3.6 shortly after 6.0 would not do any good: this would make it necessary to cope with many developers still using 3.5 and we would need to support two releases. Bernd At Thu, 10 May 2007 09:45:53 +0200, Eric Bezault wrote: > > Colin Adams wrote: > > It's now about six weeks short of six months since 3.5 was released. And > > Eiffel Studio 6.0 will be released in about a month's time. So I think it's > > time to consider a new release soon. > > Should it happen before or after the release of ISE 6.0? > Before means that it can be included into ISE's delivery. > After means that we can test it with the official version of ISE 6.0. > > -- > Eric Bezault > mailto:er...@go... > http://www.gobosoft.com > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------- > This SF.net email is sponsored by DB2 Express > Download DB2 Express C - the FREE version of DB2 express and take > control of your XML. No limits. Just data. Click to get it now. > http://sourceforge.net/powerbar/db2/ > _______________________________________________ > gobo-eiffel-develop mailing list > gob...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/gobo-eiffel-develop |