Re: [GMOD-devel] Gmod-devel Digest, Vol 109, Issue 2

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I think these are great.  Do you think, in addition, having standard gitter
channels underneath GMOD might also make sense?

Not sure if that is overkill or not.

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>    1. Re: All GMOD mail lists should be migrated from sourceforge
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>    2. Re: All GMOD mail lists should be migrated from sourceforge
>       (Scott Cain)
>    3. Re: All GMOD mail lists should be migrated from sourceforge
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> Date: Wed, 5 Jul 2017 11:28:40 -0600
> From: Todd Harris <tod...@gm...>
> To: Chris Mungall <cjm...@lb...>
> Cc: gmod-devel list <gmo...@li...>
> Subject: Re: [GMOD-devel] All GMOD mail lists should be migrated from
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> Agreed. I saw then ignored that email from SF.
>
> Google Groups can be a little finicky sometimes but generally works well
> for most users.
>
> If we want to corral lists under the gmod.org domain, someone would need
> to petition Google for a G Suite for Education account.  That might be more
> overhead than is necessary to just get some core lists up and running
> before the end of the month.
>
> Todd
>
> > On Jun 19, 2017, at 2:51 PM, Chris Mungall <cjm...@lb...> wrote:
> >
> > I think it's time to ditch sourceforge altogether.
> >
> > Of course, we ditched them some time ago as a hosted VCS and ticket
> system, moving to github, but we left the mail lists in place. Now it's
> time to move these too:
> >
> >       ? Recently I got an email from sourceforge asking me to confirm I
> wanted to remain on all sf mailing lists (non-confirmation resulting in
> automatic unsubscription within the month). It looked a bit phishy and I
> suspect many people will either not click or will not see the email, and
> will silently drop off the lists.
> >       ? it is now no longer possible for list admins to manage members!
> >       ? more spam seems to have been getting through
> > Unless anyone has a better suggestion, it seems like migrating to google
> groups is the best solution. This is what we're doing with the OBO lists:
> https://github.com/OBOFoundry/OBOFoundry.github.io/issues/435
> >
> > This may be a good time to do some spring cleaning, consolidate some
> groups, formally abandon some others. And perhaps we can breathe some life
> into some existing ones? gmod-architecture seems to get no love - yet this
> is at a time when the model organism databases are consolidating their
> architecture and community discussions would be most welcome!
> >
> > Here is the list of lists on SF:
> >
> > <PastedImage.png>
> >
> > A lot of these are either dead or were never really alive
> >
> > A curated list of GMOD lists:
> > http://gmod.org/wiki/GMOD_Mailing_Lists
> >
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> Date: Wed, 5 Jul 2017 13:37:20 -0400
> From: Scott Cain <sc...@sc...>
> To: Todd Harris <tod...@gm...>
> Cc: Chris Mungall <cjm...@lb...>,  gmod-devel list
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> Subject: Re: [GMOD-devel] All GMOD mail lists should be migrated from
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> Ah, I hadn't even thought about the idea of going the G suite for education
> route.  I'll make a few queries about it, since I would really rather have
> the "gmod.org" branding on whatever we migrate to.
>
> On Wed, Jul 5, 2017 at 1:28 PM, Todd Harris <tod...@gm...> wrote:
>
> > Agreed. I saw then ignored that email from SF.
> >
> > Google Groups can be a little finicky sometimes but generally works well
> > for most users.
> >
> > If we want to corral lists under the gmod.org domain, someone would need
> > to petition Google for a G Suite for Education account.  That might be
> more
> > overhead than is necessary to just get some core lists up and running
> > before the end of the month.
> >
> > Todd
> >
> > > On Jun 19, 2017, at 2:51 PM, Chris Mungall <cjm...@lb...> wrote:
> > >
> > > I think it's time to ditch sourceforge altogether.
> > >
> > > Of course, we ditched them some time ago as a hosted VCS and ticket
> > system, moving to github, but we left the mail lists in place. Now it's
> > time to move these too:
> > >
> > >       ? Recently I got an email from sourceforge asking me to confirm I
> > wanted to remain on all sf mailing lists (non-confirmation resulting in
> > automatic unsubscription within the month). It looked a bit phishy and I
> > suspect many people will either not click or will not see the email, and
> > will silently drop off the lists.
> > >       ? it is now no longer possible for list admins to manage members!
> > >       ? more spam seems to have been getting through
> > > Unless anyone has a better suggestion, it seems like migrating to
> google
> > groups is the best solution. This is what we're doing with the OBO lists:
> > https://github.com/OBOFoundry/OBOFoundry.github.io/issues/435
> > >
> > > This may be a good time to do some spring cleaning, consolidate some
> > groups, formally abandon some others. And perhaps we can breathe some
> life
> > into some existing ones? gmod-architecture seems to get no love - yet
> this
> > is at a time when the model organism databases are consolidating their
> > architecture and community discussions would be most welcome!
> > >
> > > Here is the list of lists on SF:
> > >
> > > <PastedImage.png>
> > >
> > > A lot of these are either dead or were never really alive
> > >
> > > A curated list of GMOD lists:
> > > http://gmod.org/wiki/GMOD_Mailing_Lists
> > >
> > > ------------------------------------------------------------
> > ------------------
> > > Check out the vibrant tech community on one of the world's most
> > > engaging tech sites, Slashdot.org! http://sdm.link/slashdot______
> > _________________________________________
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> >
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>
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> Scott Cain, Ph. D.                                   scott at scottcain dot
> net
> GMOD Coordinator (http://gmod.org/)                     216-392-3087
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> Date: Wed, 5 Jul 2017 13:46:27 -0400
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> To: Todd Harris <tod...@gm...>
> Cc: Chris Mungall <cjm...@lb...>,  gmod-devel list
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> Subject: Re: [GMOD-devel] All GMOD mail lists should be migrated from
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> OH! I totally forgot about this: gmod.org already has a free google apps
> account from before they started charging for it.  I suspect that's all we
> needed to make groups under the gmod.org domain.
>
> On Wed, Jul 5, 2017 at 1:37 PM, Scott Cain <sc...@sc...> wrote:
>
> > Ah, I hadn't even thought about the idea of going the G suite for
> > education route.  I'll make a few queries about it, since I would really
> > rather have the "gmod.org" branding on whatever we migrate to.
> >
> > On Wed, Jul 5, 2017 at 1:28 PM, Todd Harris <tod...@gm...>
> wrote:
> >
> >> Agreed. I saw then ignored that email from SF.
> >>
> >> Google Groups can be a little finicky sometimes but generally works well
> >> for most users.
> >>
> >> If we want to corral lists under the gmod.org domain, someone would
> need
> >> to petition Google for a G Suite for Education account.  That might be
> more
> >> overhead than is necessary to just get some core lists up and running
> >> before the end of the month.
> >>
> >> Todd
> >>
> >> > On Jun 19, 2017, at 2:51 PM, Chris Mungall <cjm...@lb...> wrote:
> >> >
> >> > I think it's time to ditch sourceforge altogether.
> >> >
> >> > Of course, we ditched them some time ago as a hosted VCS and ticket
> >> system, moving to github, but we left the mail lists in place. Now it's
> >> time to move these too:
> >> >
> >> >       ? Recently I got an email from sourceforge asking me to confirm
> I
> >> wanted to remain on all sf mailing lists (non-confirmation resulting in
> >> automatic unsubscription within the month). It looked a bit phishy and I
> >> suspect many people will either not click or will not see the email, and
> >> will silently drop off the lists.
> >> >       ? it is now no longer possible for list admins to manage
> members!
> >> >       ? more spam seems to have been getting through
> >> > Unless anyone has a better suggestion, it seems like migrating to
> >> google groups is the best solution. This is what we're doing with the
> OBO
> >> lists: https://github.com/OBOFoundry/OBOFoundry.github.io/issues/435
> >> >
> >> > This may be a good time to do some spring cleaning, consolidate some
> >> groups, formally abandon some others. And perhaps we can breathe some
> life
> >> into some existing ones? gmod-architecture seems to get no love - yet
> this
> >> is at a time when the model organism databases are consolidating their
> >> architecture and community discussions would be most welcome!
> >> >
> >> > Here is the list of lists on SF:
> >> >
> >> > <PastedImage.png>
> >> >
> >> > A lot of these are either dead or were never really alive
> >> >
> >> > A curated list of GMOD lists:
> >> > http://gmod.org/wiki/GMOD_Mailing_Lists
> >> >
> >> > ------------------------------------------------------------
> >> ------------------
> >> > Check out the vibrant tech community on one of the world's most
> >> > engaging tech sites, Slashdot.org! http://sdm.link/slashdot______
> >> _________________________________________
> >> > Gmod-devel mailing list
> >> > Gmo...@li...
> >> > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/gmod-devel
> >>
> >>
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> >
> >
> >
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> > Scott Cain, Ph. D.                                   scott at scottcain
> > dot net
> > GMOD Coordinator (http://gmod.org/)                     216-392-3087
> > <(216)%20392-3087>
> > Ontario Institute for Cancer Research
> >
>
>
>
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> Scott Cain, Ph. D.                                   scott at scottcain dot
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> GMOD Coordinator (http://gmod.org/)                     216-392-3087
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