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Re: [Glsdk-devel] util. lib brainstorming
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From: H. H. <hen...@gm...> - 2008-08-25 18:30:58
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On Mon, Aug 25, 2008 at 9:10 PM, Mars_999 <ma...@si...> wrote: > I am going to throw this out there, since you are going to ask the author > to modify the GLFW api to work with glSDK, could we just roll the extension > loader into that version? I am assuming GLE is the extension loader? Instead > of having so many different sections to the SDK? Or are we trying to keep > the SDK more modular. > > It was just a thought. At the moment, we are not concerned with the windowlib yet (me and branan are the only active developers yet and we have our hands full, I think Korval may be working on GLE but we haven't heard from it in some days). I think it would be a better idea to separate the GLE (our proposed extlib) and GLW (our proposed windowlib), but the GLW may directly call GLE. This allows the possibility to use GLE as a separate library also. Things are open for debate... > ----- Original Message ----- > *From:* Henri Häkkinen <hen...@gm...> > *To:* gls...@li... > *Sent:* Monday, August 25, 2008 12:45 PM > *Subject:* Re: [Glsdk-devel] util. lib brainstorming > > I had an idea that we could fork from GLFW, strip it to the minium needs of > the SDK and maybe tweak the API a bit to make it more streamlined into our > style. This would have the following benefits: > > - we have our own windowing layer that we can control, yet don't need to > implement it from scratch > - we don't depend on external dependencies > > We could also ask from the author of GLFW, if s/he would like to join our > SDK project as the maintainer-developer of the GLFW-fork. > > The windowlib is not yet the topic but we should give this possibility a > serious thought. > > > On Mon, Aug 25, 2008 at 6:29 PM, Henri Häkkinen <hen...@gm...>wrote: > >> GLFW/GLUT is the thing we should use if they can get a OpenGL3 support and >> our extlib can tap into it. >> >> >> On Mon, Aug 25, 2008 at 11:32 AM, Stefanos A. <sta...@gm...>wrote: >> >>> On Sun, 2008-08-24 at 21:36 +0300, =?ISO-8859-1?Q? Henri_H=E4kkinen _ >>> wrote: >>> > I think having a simple menu bar would also be beneficial for the >>> > demos, as you could change some of the demo parameters from that >>> > interface. Such as, back face culling, front face winding etc. This is >>> > open for a debate. >>> > >>> > On Sun, Aug 24, 2008 at 9:22 PM, Jason McKesson <ko...@gm...> >>> > wrote: >>> > Henri Häkkinen wrote: >>> > > - windowing system abstraction? Candidates; GLUT and GLFW. >>> > we could >>> > > also choose to implement our own windowlib that woudl >>> > integrate into >>> > > our GLE. This library would have features for opening >>> > windows, >>> > > creating simple menu bars, input processing etc. >>> > >>> > Creating a window with an OpenGL context is the limit of what >>> > we should >>> > provide. >>> > >>> > Now, that being said, there is something to be said for being >>> > able to >>> > handle input to some degree. This is mostly for examples and >>> > demos, so >>> > it can wait. >>> >>> When you implement all this, you are basically left with a less portable, >>> buggier(*) version of GLFW/GLUT. There's really no good reason to avoid GLFW >>> - it follows the GL naming conventions, is lightweight, simple and to the >>> point: >>> >>> glfwInit(); >>> /* w h r g b a d s GLFW_WINDOW */ >>> glfwOpenWindow(640, 480, 8, 8, 8, 8, 16, 0, GLFW_FULLSCREEN); >>> >>> while (glfwGetKey() != GLFW_KEY_ESC) /* Callbacks supported too */ >>> glfwSleep(0.01); >>> >>> glfwTerminate(); >>> >>> Which covers everything the sdk samples are going to need. >>> >>> (*) Just look at the source code of GLFW. They work around several >>> win32/x11/osx bugs so that the library works the same everywhere. >>> Speaking from experience, this is no easy feat. >>> >>> >>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------- >>> This SF.Net email is sponsored by the Moblin Your Move Developer's >>> challenge >>> Build the coolest Linux based applications with Moblin SDK & win great >>> prizes >>> Grand prize is a trip for two to an Open Source event anywhere in the >>> world >>> http://moblin-contest.org/redirect.php?banner_id=100&url=/ >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Glsdk-devel mailing list >>> Gls...@li... >>> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/glsdk-devel >>> >> >> >> >> -- >> Henri 'henux' Häkkinen >> >> > > > -- > Henri 'henux' Häkkinen > > ------------------------------ > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------- > This SF.Net email is sponsored by the Moblin Your Move Developer's > challenge > Build the coolest Linux based applications with Moblin SDK & win great > prizes > Grand prize is a trip for two to an Open Source event anywhere in the world > http://moblin-contest.org/redirect.php?banner_id=100&url=/ > > ------------------------------ > > _______________________________________________ > Glsdk-devel mailing list > Gls...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/glsdk-devel > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------- > This SF.Net email is sponsored by the Moblin Your Move Developer's > challenge > Build the coolest Linux based applications with Moblin SDK & win great > prizes > Grand prize is a trip for two to an Open Source event anywhere in the world > http://moblin-contest.org/redirect.php?banner_id=100&url=/ > _______________________________________________ > Glsdk-devel mailing list > Gls...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/glsdk-devel > > -- Henri 'henux' Häkkinen |
