[gl4java-usergroup] Re: [javagl] NEW * GL4Java 2.1.3.2 * NEW

[Sven <sgo...@ja...>]

Dear GL4Java users,

to support loadable additional GL/GLU functions,
I do need your help !

The windows version allready uses wglGetProcAddress
to support some of the EXT functions !

I need a seperate list of GL/GLU (incl. EXT) functions
with prototypes which are new in GL 1.2 or GLU 1.2 !
The mesa GL headers are not enough explizit (not detailed) for me !
So - then I can create an automatism, like it exist for some EXT
functions,
to load all these functions with wglGetProcAddress !

May be, all these functions should be loaded for the Unix version
this way either !

Then we can have something like "boolean gl*Exits()" methods.

At this time, GL4Java supports all GL 1.2 methods.
If it is compiled with a special GL library, 
e.g. opengl32.dll or nvidias-mesa 1.1 gl, some missing functions
are only represented as dummy functions !
So a dynamic load of these functions may makes sense ...
BUT - like for all GL usage, the user may can not use the applications,
because of the non std. gl implementation he may use ...

Please make a vote - and if you have time, please participate and help !

Thanxs !

Yours, Sven Goethel


"Kerry L. Bonin" wrote:
> 
> [NON M$ BASHING, CONSTRUCTIVE QUESTION AT BOTTOM OF EMAIL...]
> 
> At 04:14 PM 3/12/00 -0800, Jon Leech wrote:
> >On Sun, Mar 12, 2000 at 04:03:00PM -0800, Kerry L. Bonin wrote:
> >> At 10:59 AM 1/24/00 +0100, sven goethel wrote:
> >> >Of course, the Win32 version, cannot has only dummy functions
> >> >for the new OpenGL1.2 functions ...,
> >> >because Win32 supports OpenGL 1.1.X only ...
> >>
> >> Any plans to cut this dependance and support loadable ICD's? I understand
> >> that as of Win2K GL is frozen forever at 1.1
> >
> >    There will be an 1.2 OPENGL32.DLL in a future Win2K service pack.
> 
> With all due respect, this is completely unacceptable.
> 
> The fact that M$ has shipped an OS without proper OpenGL support MUST be
> taken as an indication that the gauntlet has been thrown and even the most
> skeptical developer must now bypass M$.  If I listed the number of
> technologies not important to M$ that "will be supported in a future blah
> blah" that never shipped this email would be pages long.
> 
> As a professional developer with over 10 years experience providing
> bleeding edge tech in and around Windows, I know to NEVER, EVER trust
> ANYTHING that Microsoft says about technologies not deemed strategically
> important to Microsoft core business lines.  OpenGL is not only not
> important to Microsoft, they badly want it to die (I've sat in the audience
> at CGDC where they came out and basically said this) - Its intererfering
> with their long-term strategies in the games arena.
> 
> I've heard the official reasons why the 1.2 didn't make the driver cut.
> That's still unacceptable, see reason above.
> 
> >I'm not sure what you mean by "the only way to get anything done is to
> provide
> >ICD's"
> 
> OK, I should have been more specific.  Are there any plans to make GL4Java
> work over a direct load system such as <http://www.glsetup.com/>?

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