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From: Karl H. K. <kh...@kh...> - 2000-02-08 00:57:06
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On Mon, Feb 07, 2000 at 07:42:54PM -0500, Robert L Krawitz wrote: > OK, I checked in the fix. I also checked in something else that might No difference. OK, one little difference: Your init code prints something one the page: I get two lines 284.4 @EJL=20 at the top of the page. But other than that neither the number of separations nor the nozzles did change anything. My information is also that the 740 has 48 nozzles, so I tried the 32, but changed it back after I saw that it did also not work. Regarding the init string: I would remove it again. As I said before, I tried it with an image generated with the Windows driver after I removed the "junk" at the beginning of the file and the image printed identical to the one with the init sequence. The 760 seems to require such a string, the 740 does not. Karl Heinz --=20 Karl Heinz Kremer kh...@kh... http://www.khk.net ICQ: 41190739 |
From: Robert L K. <rl...@al...> - 2000-02-08 00:38:17
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OK, I checked in the fix. I also checked in something else that might help -- I had the inter-jet separation set to 6 lines, which is unusual; usually it's 8 with these printers. It's possible that it really is 6, in which case a separation of 8 will cause somewhat strange effects. However, my weaving code may not be correct for a separation of 6; it needs more testing, and if that was the case, things simply wouldn't work. If you still have problems, try this. Find the line in print-escp2.c (in the latest version 1.63, it's lines 495-499) that looks like this: /* Stylus Color 740 */ (MODEL_PAPER_LARGE | MODEL_IMAGEABLE_600 | MODEL_INIT_440 | MODEL_HASBLACK_YES | MODEL_6COLOR_NO | MODEL_720DPI_DEFAULT | MODEL_VARIABLE_4 | MODEL_1440DPI_YES | MODEL_MAKE_NOZZLES(48) | MODEL_MAKE_SEPARATION(8)), Change the 48 to 32. This will reduce the number of nozzles it uses, but if my information (about 48 nozzles) is incorrect, this has a chance of working. Also, if this works (due to the weird init sequence, presumably), could you try printing as a 640? If that fails to print, then we know the 640 needs the init sequence also. -- Robert Krawitz <rl...@al...> http://www.tiac.net/users/rlk/ Tall Clubs International -- http://www.tall.org/ or 1-888-IM-TALL-2 Member of the League for Programming Freedom -- mail lp...@uu... Project lead for The Gimp Print -- http://gimp-print.sourceforge.net "Linux doesn't dictate how I work, I dictate how Linux works." --Eric Crampton |
From: Robert L K. <rl...@al...> - 2000-02-08 00:23:41
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Date: Sat, 5 Feb 2000 20:40:16 -0500 From: Karl Heinz Kremer <kh...@kh...> This came just in from the linux-usb mailing list. Does anybody know about these initialization strings that are sent by the Windows drivers? I've seen something similar with the 740 driver, however the job prints even when I remove this special init string. The stuation with the 760 seems to be different. In light of all this weirdness we're seeing, I'm beginning to wonder if this is our problem after all. The printout someone sent me from a 750 contained exactly this string, also. I'm going to stick it in; perhaps you could try it after I commit this? From: Pam R <pam...@vi...> To: lin...@su... Date: Sun, 6 Feb 2000 00:49:57 +0000 X-Mailer: KMail [version 1.0.28] Subject: [linux-usb] Epson Stylus Color 760 FWIW I've just managed to get the EPC760 working via USB (2.2.14 kernel with 2.3.39 backpatch) using a uniprint - stcany.upp - ghostscript combination, by adding an extra initialisation string in stcany.upp. The string is 00 00 00 1b01 40 45 4a 4c 20 31 32 38 34 2e 34 0a 40 45 4a 4c 20 20 20 20 20 0a =20 Doing it this way the string is sent at the start of each print job, but I believe that the printer really only needs it once - on the initial connection.. -- Robert Krawitz <rl...@al...> http://www.tiac.net/users/rlk/ Tall Clubs International -- http://www.tall.org/ or 1-888-IM-TALL-2 Member of the League for Programming Freedom -- mail lp...@uu... Project lead for The Gimp Print -- http://gimp-print.sourceforge.net "Linux doesn't dictate how I work, I dictate how Linux works." --Eric Crampton |
From: Robert L K. <rl...@al...> - 2000-02-08 00:19:52
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Date: Mon, 07 Feb 2000 18:16:53 +0100 From: Andy Thaller <th...@ph...> In case I'll ever find out how to utilize my bjc-6000's ink drop modulation functionality: how will I tell the dithering algorithm to produce suitable output? I'll propably need 2-3 levels of dropsizes (can their size-ratios be accounted for?) in a yet to be ascertained bit order. I'm just curious -- don't start hacking away immediately if the code isn't there already ;-) I actually checked this stuff in last night. There's a real API for this, and it should be fully supported. Look in print.h for the various dither_set_* functions. In particular, you want the functions dither_set_c_levels(void *, int, double *) and their equivalents for the other inks. These functions take the following arguments: void *vd is the handle you're given by init_dither(). int levels is the number of levels (it will be interesting to see if anything not a power of 2 works). double *levels is a vector of levels (levels[0] should equal 0.0). Each value should be between 0 and 1 inclusive. They should increase monotonically. The output bit array is treated as a vector of bit arrays numbering ceil(log2 levels). So if there are two levels (the normal situation, in which case you should use the dither_cmyk function), there is one bit array; if there are four levels there are two arrays, and so forth. Bytes 0..length-1 are the lowest order bits, bytes length..2 * length - 1 are the next bits, and so forth. There's a function escp2_fold in print_escp2.c that folds these bits into a more normal packing order. You should be fully set here. The reason for this seemingly baroque ordering is that PCL printers actually take these vectors of bits, rather than folding them. But it actually makes sense, since different printers will handle this stuff differently, and it's a fairly easy ordering to deal with (unpacking bits is a lot messier, particularly with an arbitrary number of bit planes). Something else I'd like to know is how I can set gamma and intensity levels for each of the color components seperately. Of course, color correction is something a color management system should do but until that is available I'd like to have a quick'n'dirty way... About the best thing you could do is recompute the lookup table when your print function is called. In fact, calling compute_lut() from inside print.c is really silly; it should be called from inside the print function, and I may just change this. There are already intensity controls for each of the colors; adding gamma controls isn't hard, but it is tedious. It would really make sense to put the LUT in the variables block, actually, and save it in the printrc. The LUT (unlike the color map) is really part of the printer definition, not of the image. In fact, it would arguably make sense to put the color mapping stuff in the image code, rather than the print functions, so that the image code does the translation to RGB or RGBA. If you want to expose them, you'll have to hack the UI code in print.c, which is ugly. You should probably discuss this with Steve Miller <sm...@rn...>, who's working on the GUI. I'm beginning to think that we should consider redoing the printrc file format some time during this development cycle. We've already added stuff to it, and it's rather ugly. The "obvious" thing to do is to come up with an XML definition here; we can then easily add stuff later, and people can edit printer definitions with their favorite browser (hint: transfer functions!). I think GTK actually has a pretty nice gamma curve widget. It's not really documented anywhere, but I think SANE uses this (hint hint, somebody :-) ). This would be a real win for us. -- Robert Krawitz <rl...@al...> http://www.tiac.net/users/rlk/ Tall Clubs International -- http://www.tall.org/ or 1-888-IM-TALL-2 Member of the League for Programming Freedom -- mail lp...@uu... Project lead for The Gimp Print -- http://gimp-print.sourceforge.net "Linux doesn't dictate how I work, I dictate how Linux works." --Eric Crampton |
From: Andy T. <th...@ph...> - 2000-02-07 17:18:50
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In case I'll ever find out how to utilize my bjc-6000's ink drop modulation functionality: how will I tell the dithering algorithm to produce suitable output? I'll propably need 2-3 levels of dropsizes (can their size-ratios be accounted for?) in a yet to be ascertained bit order. I'm just curious -- don't start hacking away immediately if the code isn't there already ;-) Something else I'd like to know is how I can set gamma and intensity levels for each of the color components seperately. Of course, color correction is something a color management system should do but until that is available I'd like to have a quick'n'dirty way... Andy. |
From: Karl H. K. <kh...@kh...> - 2000-02-07 14:10:27
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sh...@al... said: > > I won't have much time this week to work on the 740 and 750 problems > > (and I'll probably have to cut back in general). The fact that I > > don't have one of these printers also makes it hard for me to do very > > much. So can someone else look into this? As I said before, I'd rather spend my time on the Sane/Epson project (Code freeze a week from yesterday). I will however continue to test new code. > > I also shouldn't be spending too much time on this, although I'd like > to. > > My plan is to keep working on the printer simulator. If the problems > with the 740/750 are that they aren't working properly due to bugs in I am pretty sure that as far as the 740 is concerned we are dealing with real bugs and not some undocumented features. The printer simulator will probably help to find these things. Will it be able to select a specific feature set, so that I can run it as a 740 or a 400? Karl Heinz |
From: <sh...@al...> - 2000-02-07 14:07:19
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> I am pretty sure that as far as the 740 is concerned we are dealing > with real bugs and not some undocumented features. The printer > simulator will probably help to find these things. Will it be > able to select a specific feature set, so that I can run it as > a 740 or a 400? In theory it would not be too difficult to code support for that. I want to get it fully working as a 750 first, though, and then I'll add some switches that cause it to forget what the newer commands mean. Right now, there's all sorts of stuff in the files that the simulator does not understand. I've yet to determine how much of that is due to bugs in the simulator and how much in the driver. The simulator has some obvious memory management problems that I need to address before it can be a truly useful tool. Eric |
From: Karl H. K. <kh...@kh...> - 2000-02-07 13:54:24
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sh...@al... said: > > I won't have much time this week to work on the 740 and 750 problems > > (and I'll probably have to cut back in general). The fact that I > > don't have one of these printers also makes it hard for me to do very > > much. So can someone else look into this? As I said before, I'd rather spend my time on the Sane/Epson project (Code freeze a week from yesterday). I will however continue to test new code. > > I also shouldn't be spending too much time on this, although I'd like > to. > > My plan is to keep working on the printer simulator. If the problems > with the 740/750 are that they aren't working properly due to bugs in I am pretty sure that as far as the 740 is concerned we are dealing with real bugs and not some undocumented features. The printer simulator will probably help to find these things. Will it be able to select a specific feature set, so that I can run it as a 740 or a 400? Karl Heinz |
From: <sh...@al...> - 2000-02-07 13:34:00
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> I won't have much time this week to work on the 740 and 750 problems > (and I'll probably have to cut back in general). The fact that I > don't have one of these printers also makes it hard for me to do very > much. So can someone else look into this? I also shouldn't be spending too much time on this, although I'd like to. My plan is to keep working on the printer simulator. If the problems with the 740/750 are that they aren't working properly due to bugs in the driver, then a lot of these issues should be resolvable this way. If there are necessary undocumented features, well, then, we'll just need to increase our vocabulary of swear words. Shall we have a contest to come up with an acronym for "Epson"? :) Eric |
From: Robert L K. <rl...@al...> - 2000-02-07 13:20:20
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I won't have much time this week to work on the 740 and 750 problems (and I'll probably have to cut back in general). The fact that I don't have one of these printers also makes it hard for me to do very much. So can someone else look into this? -- Robert Krawitz <rl...@al...> http://www.tiac.net/users/rlk/ Tall Clubs International -- http://www.tall.org/ or 1-888-IM-TALL-2 Member of the League for Programming Freedom -- mail lp...@uu... Project lead for The Gimp Print -- http://gimp-print.sourceforge.net "Linux doesn't dictate how I work, I dictate how Linux works." --Eric Crampton |
From: Robert L K. <rl...@al...> - 2000-02-07 01:38:01
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The variable dot size stuff is definitely broken. I'm committing something that should make it do something closer to the right thing, but it's probably still wrong... |
From: Karl H. K. <kh...@kh...> - 2000-02-07 00:54:10
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On Sun, Feb 06, 2000 at 07:26:36PM -0500, Robert L Krawitz wrote: > Try it in single dot size mode. I have a suspicion that the variable > dot size stuff is broken right now. That's not it. I just tried the softweave/High Quality/Highest Quality modes with singe dot size, and the result was the same. Karl Heinz --=20 Karl Heinz Kremer kh...@kh... http://www.khk.net ICQ: 41190739 |
From: Robert L K. <rl...@al...> - 2000-02-07 00:22:01
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Date: Sun, 6 Feb 2000 19:06:42 -0500 From: Karl Heinz Kremer <kh...@kh...> The High and Highest Quality settings seem to position the=20 print heads vertically and then do a number of small vertical steps which could in total be about he height of the image and the eject the page without any print head movement. This consumes the complete print job, no data is left after the page is ejected. Try it in single dot size mode. I have a suspicion that the variable dot size stuff is broken right now. The 1440 modes just eject the paper. |
From: Robert L K. <rl...@al...> - 2000-02-07 00:18:44
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Date: Sun, 6 Feb 2000 19:06:42 -0500 From: Karl Heinz Kremer <kh...@kh...> On Sun, Feb 06, 2000 at 05:42:02PM -0500, Robert L Krawitz wrote: > OK. I'm trying one more thing with microweave: using straight 720 > dpi, no new commands at all. If THIS doesn't work on any Epson ink > jet from the Stylus Color on, I'll be very surprised indeed. >=20 > See if this works, then give softweave a try again. Bingo! Microweave is working, 360dpi also works, but Softweave gave me "barcode" once, but now only produces blank pages. I=20 don't understand why it put out the "barcode" the first time I tried it. The privious page was finished, so I would assume that it was some weird interaction between the softweave data stream and the printer settings prior to the job. Unfortunately I am not able to recreate this. The High and Highest Quality settings seem to position the=20 print heads vertically and then do a number of small vertical steps which could in total be about he height of the image and the eject the page without any print head movement. This consumes the complete print job, no data is left after the page is ejected. So there's something wrong with the data itself. I guess we need to find someone running one of these printers under Windows to generate a print file for us and figure out what we're doing wrong. The 1440 modes just eject the paper. Probably something wrong with how we're setting units or something. |
From: Karl H. K. <kh...@kh...> - 2000-02-07 00:08:37
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On Sun, Feb 06, 2000 at 05:42:02PM -0500, Robert L Krawitz wrote: > OK. I'm trying one more thing with microweave: using straight 720 > dpi, no new commands at all. If THIS doesn't work on any Epson ink > jet from the Stylus Color on, I'll be very surprised indeed. >=20 > See if this works, then give softweave a try again. Bingo! Microweave is working, 360dpi also works, but Softweave gave me "barcode" once, but now only produces blank pages. I=20 don't understand why it put out the "barcode" the first time I tried it. The privious page was finished, so I would assume that it was some weird interaction between the softweave data stream and the printer settings prior to the job. Unfortunately I am not able to recreate this. The High and Highest Quality settings seem to position the=20 print heads vertically and then do a number of small vertical steps which could in total be about he height of the image and the eject the page without any print head movement. This consumes the complete print job, no data is left after the page is ejected. The 1440 modes just eject the paper. Karl Heinz --=20 Karl Heinz Kremer kh...@kh... http://www.khk.net ICQ: 41190739 |
From: Robert L K. <rl...@al...> - 2000-02-06 22:45:20
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Well, that's interesting...in microweave mode on the 740, there's some extra garbage that shouldn't be there. |
From: Robert L K. <rl...@al...> - 2000-02-06 22:42:12
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Date: Sun, 6 Feb 2000 14:35:12 -0500 From: Karl Heinz Kremer <kh...@kh...> I've done some testing this afternoon and was able to get some images from my printer (STC740), unfurtunately all the "interesting" modes are not working. Here's a table of my findings: Not work means that it simply ejects the page and does nothing, or does it print garbage, or something else? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- Test results - printing to a stc740 ----------------------------------------------------------------------- Selected Printer Mode Result Epson Stylus 360 dpi + 720 dpi + Stylus Color 740 360 dpi - 720 dpi Microweave - So it works as an Epson Stylus, but not as a Stylus Color 740. Very interesting... -- Robert Krawitz <rl...@al...> http://www.tiac.net/users/rlk/ Tall Clubs International -- http://www.tall.org/ or 1-888-IM-TALL-2 Member of the League for Programming Freedom -- mail lp...@uu... Project lead for The Gimp Print -- http://gimp-print.sourceforge.net "Linux doesn't dictate how I work, I dictate how Linux works." --Eric Crampton |
From: Robert L K. <rl...@al...> - 2000-02-06 22:37:27
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OK. I'm trying one more thing with microweave: using straight 720 dpi, no new commands at all. If THIS doesn't work on any Epson ink jet from the Stylus Color on, I'll be very surprised indeed. See if this works, then give softweave a try again. |
From: Karl H. K. <kh...@kh...> - 2000-02-06 22:23:04
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=2E.. this should have gone to the list as well ... ----- Forwarded message from Karl Heinz Kremer <kh...@kh...> ----- Date: Sun, 6 Feb 2000 17:19:28 -0500 From: Karl Heinz Kremer <kh...@kh...> To: Robert L Krawitz <rl...@al...> Subject: Re: [Gimp-print-devel] Epson Test Results X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0i On Sun, Feb 06, 2000 at 04:27:40PM -0500, Robert L Krawitz wrote: > OK, I put in some fixes that *should* (in theory, at any rate) allow > microweave to work correctly. If you get this message, could you give > it a try (in 740 mode)? I tried the microweave mode with the CVS version from just minutes ago and it is still not working: The printer does some vertical movement, probably to the correct place, then stops for a split second, does some movements and then spits out the page without ever putting ink on the paper. At the end the printer goes to the next page, which I do not allow by only feeding one page and resetting the printer afterwards. =2E.. just received your mail regarding the variable dot size... recompiling, installing, retesting ... =2E.. the result is just a different sound when it stops after the=20 first vertical postitioning. No ink on the paper. With 360dpi the printer spits out just one page, no additional=20 data in the buffer that requests a new sheet of paper.=20 So it seems that different resolutions result in different problems Karl Heinz --=20 Karl Heinz Kremer kh...@kh... http://www.khk.net ICQ: 41190739 ----- End forwarded message ----- --=20 Karl Heinz Kremer kh...@kh... http://www.khk.net ICQ: 41190739 |
From: Robert L K. <rl...@al...> - 2000-02-06 22:02:03
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BTW, just in case the variable dot size gets us into trouble, I've added an option (under Ink Types) for single dot size. That's probably worth a try. -- Robert Krawitz <rl...@al...> http://www.tiac.net/users/rlk/ Tall Clubs International -- http://www.tall.org/ or 1-888-IM-TALL-2 Member of the League for Programming Freedom -- mail lp...@uu... Project lead for The Gimp Print -- http://gimp-print.sourceforge.net "Linux doesn't dictate how I work, I dictate how Linux works." --Eric Crampton |
From: Robert L K. <rl...@al...> - 2000-02-06 21:40:10
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I notice that in softweave command there were some things out of sequence that might reasonably matter -- ESC(S followed ESC(V. So it's just barely possible that softweave will work now. -- Robert Krawitz <rl...@al...> http://www.tiac.net/users/rlk/ Tall Clubs International -- http://www.tall.org/ or 1-888-IM-TALL-2 Member of the League for Programming Freedom -- mail lp...@uu... Project lead for The Gimp Print -- http://gimp-print.sourceforge.net "Linux doesn't dictate how I work, I dictate how Linux works." --Eric Crampton |
From: Robert L K. <rl...@al...> - 2000-02-06 21:23:05
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OK, I put in some fixes that *should* (in theory, at any rate) allow microweave to work correctly. If you get this message, could you give it a try (in 740 mode)? |
From: Karl H. K. <kh...@kh...> - 2000-02-06 19:37:05
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I've done some testing this afternoon and was able to get some images from my printer (STC740), unfurtunately all the "interesting" modes are not working. Here's a table of my findings: ----------------------------------------------------------------------- Test results - printing to a stc740 ----------------------------------------------------------------------- Selected Printer Mode Result Epson Stylus 360 dpi + 720 dpi + Epson Stylus Pro 360 dpi - 720 dpi Microweave + 720 dpi Softweave - 720 dpi High Quality - 720 dpi Highest Quality - Epson Stylus Pro XL 360 dpi + (low contrast) 720 dpi Microweave + 720 dpi Softweave - 720 dpi High Quality - 720 dpi Highest Qualtiy - Stylus Color 400 360 dpi + (low contrast) 720 dpi Microweave + 720 dpi Softweave - 720 dpi High Quality - 720 dpi Highest Quality - Stylus Color 440 360 dpi + 720 dpi Microweave + 720 dpi Softweave - 720 dpi High Quality - Stylus Color 500 360 dpi + (low contrast) 720 dpi Microweave + 720 dpi Softweave - Stylus Color 640 360 dpi + 720 dpi Microweave + 720 dpi Softweave - 720 dpi High Quality - 720 dpi Highest Quality - 1440x720 Softweave - 1440x720 HQ - 1440x720 Two Pass - Stylus Color 700 360 dpi - 720 dpi Microweave - Stylus Color 740 360 dpi - 720 dpi Microweave - Epson Stylus Color 1500 360 dpi + (low contrast) 720 dpi Microweave + ----------------------------------------------------------------------- So it looks like all the softweaving modes are not working, with some printer versions the microweaving is also not working. There are however some that will work in 360 and 720 Microweave mode.=20 Can somebody make some sense out of this? Karl Heinz --=20 Karl Heinz Kremer kh...@kh... http://www.khk.net ICQ: 41190739 |
From: Robert L K. <rl...@al...> - 2000-02-06 18:47:14
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I created a new file print-dither.c that contains all the dithering stuff that used to be in print-util.c. This was simply because print-util.c was getting a bit too large and unwieldly for my taste. -- Robert Krawitz <rl...@al...> http://www.tiac.net/users/rlk/ Tall Clubs International -- http://www.tall.org/ or 1-888-IM-TALL-2 Member of the League for Programming Freedom -- mail lp...@uu... Project lead for The Gimp Print -- http://gimp-print.sourceforge.net "Linux doesn't dictate how I work, I dictate how Linux works." --Eric Crampton |
From: <sh...@al...> - 2000-02-06 15:24:39
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> 8, or 6? I've seen the occasional 6, but it's mostly 8's that I get. > My tool doesn't show any ESC 0x8, but I do see ESC 0x6 when > I use the 750 driver (or anything else). To tell the truth, I don't > remember why that's in there. Oh, goody. Time to read the source more... Eric |