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From: Robert L K. <rl...@al...> - 2000-04-16 15:59:52
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I wrote my mkchlog script (I didn't name it mkchangelog because emacs thought it was a change log! Bletch). I updated the change log, and I'll periodically rerun mkchlog to update it before a release. Speaking of which, it's been a while since 3.1.2, and it occurs to me that a fair bit of new stuff is in (new dithering and UI code). We might be able to do something later this week. -- Robert Krawitz <rl...@al...> http://www.tiac.net/users/rlk/ Tall Clubs International -- http://www.tall.org/ or 1-888-IM-TALL-2 Member of the League for Programming Freedom -- mail lp...@uu... Project lead for The Gimp Print -- http://gimp-print.sourceforge.net "Linux doesn't dictate how I work, I dictate how Linux works." --Eric Crampton |
From: S. M. <sm...@rn...> - 2000-04-16 05:52:55
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Robert, I just commited a gtk_color_window.c with the dither option menu in it. In print.c you'll need to fill in the dither name array and current dither name, and add what you need to the callback in color_window (it's the very last one in the file). Steve -- ----------------------------------------- Just because I have a short attention span doesn't mean I ------------------------------------------ |
From: S. M. <sm...@rn...> - 2000-04-16 04:04:40
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Is anyone else having problems with their epson 740? Since about a week ago I'm getting prints with the black horizontally offset quite a bit from the other colors. At first I thought it was my printer, which behaved oddly for a few days after I used it from windows with the black cartridge almost empty. But I just tried to print the same image from Star Office, and it printed fine. Steve -- ----------------------------------------- Just because I have a short attention span doesn't mean I ------------------------------------------ |
From: Robert L K. <rl...@al...> - 2000-04-16 03:03:27
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I have some new dithering code that I've just committed (it's the code I've been yakking about lately). This code seems to give much more even results, better color matching, and less ink consumption. It probably works best for printers with variable dot sizes/ink types, such as the Epson Stylus Photo series (6 colors, and in some cases variable dot sizes) and the Stylus Color 740 and 900. It's certainly a lot easier to tune, and it's possible to actually understand what's going on. I've slapped on two tags "dither2-premerge" and "dither2-postmerge" in case people dislike it and we want to rip it out easily. My tests are a little suspect right now because the cartridge in my printer right now is contaminated with alcohol that I used to try to clean it, so the colors are all washed out. Despite that, however, it's promising enough so I want more people to get a shot at it. Note that this doesn't preclude using the Even Toned screening algorithm, or anything else. I want to have different dithering algorithms available for different purposes (e. g. Even Tone doesn't currently support variable dot sizes). That's why I've been pushing for alternate dithering algorithm support. I have a pretty good backlog of stuff here -- look at rinkj, document how to add a new family of printers, write a script to generate a change log from the CVS commit messages. I need to take a break from coding long enough to get to all this. I know I won't get to it all, though. The family illness is still there, and won't be entirely going away any time soon. -- Robert Krawitz <rl...@al...> http://www.tiac.net/users/rlk/ Tall Clubs International -- http://www.tall.org/ or 1-888-IM-TALL-2 Member of the League for Programming Freedom -- mail lp...@uu... Project lead for The Gimp Print -- http://gimp-print.sourceforge.net "Linux doesn't dictate how I work, I dictate how Linux works." --Eric Crampton |
From: S. M. <sm...@rn...> - 2000-04-14 19:46:24
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Robert L Krawitz wrote: > > Date: Thu, 13 Apr 2000 20:36:51 -0700 > From: "S. Miller" <sm...@rn...> > > Mitch, this is incomplete, so you might want to wait until Robert fills > in the guts of the dither selection before incorporating it. Any > changes will be in *_color_window.c. > > Don't wait for me on this. I have a lot of code to merge before this > will do anything useful. > > -- > Robert Krawitz <rl...@al...> http://www.tiac.net/users/rlk/ > > Tall Clubs International -- http://www.tall.org/ or 1-888-IM-TALL-2 > Member of the League for Programming Freedom -- mail lp...@uu... > Project lead for The Gimp Print -- http://gimp-print.sourceforge.net > > "Linux doesn't dictate how I work, I dictate how Linux works." > --Eric Crampton I guess its good to go then. I'll wait for Mitch's changes for the dual menu entries, then remerge the dither menu. It will just sit there as a ghosted button until there is something for it to do. I have an unexpected trip this afternoon, so I hope I can get to it this evening. Steve -- ----------------------------------------- Just because I have a short attention span doesn't mean I ------------------------------------------ |
From: S. M. <sm...@rn...> - 2000-04-14 19:38:16
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Michael Natterer wrote: > > > Ehm, no, please not !-) > > I just meant to register 2 different PDB calls within one plugin > and leting the run() function decide which ui to call depending on > the name of the function passed. This is a frequently used technique > in Gimp plugins. Oh, that's better! I still don't know how, so I'll let you go ahead with it - then I'll know. > > > For everyone's enlightenment (even if you don't use gnome), I am > > currently working on shifting the entire gui into a GtkNotebook. It is > > fairly slow going, as I'm having to restructure the entire table based > > gui into multiple chunks. I'm hoping that the result will allow printer > > specific additional notebook pages, as well as hide some detail from > > casual users. > > That's a really cool idea. Do you mean to integrate the color settings back > in the main notebook then? > > Personally, I like notebooks very much (can't say why, they just feel > "natural" for me). > Yes, the color settings will have their own page. The initial page will have the printer selection, media size/source/etc, resolution. I'm debating whether to put the preview stuff on that page or on its own page. Suggestions welcome. Another page will have things like dither selection, image type (color - the default, greyscale, line), and other miscellaneous things that a casual or new user won't change much. It shouldn't be too hard to check the printer type and add any extra stuff on a new page if the driver maintainer wanted to. We just need to be careful not to go too wild. Steve ----------------------------------------- Just because I have a short attention span doesn't mean I ------------------------------------------ |
From: Robert L K. <rl...@al...> - 2000-04-14 12:08:21
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Date: Thu, 13 Apr 2000 20:36:51 -0700 From: "S. Miller" <sm...@rn...> Mitch, this is incomplete, so you might want to wait until Robert fills in the guts of the dither selection before incorporating it. Any changes will be in *_color_window.c. Don't wait for me on this. I have a lot of code to merge before this will do anything useful. -- Robert Krawitz <rl...@al...> http://www.tiac.net/users/rlk/ Tall Clubs International -- http://www.tall.org/ or 1-888-IM-TALL-2 Member of the League for Programming Freedom -- mail lp...@uu... Project lead for The Gimp Print -- http://gimp-print.sourceforge.net "Linux doesn't dictate how I work, I dictate how Linux works." --Eric Crampton |
From: Michael N. <mit...@cs...> - 2000-04-14 11:35:38
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"S. Miller" wrote: > > Robert L Krawitz wrote: > > > > As it happens, the reason I want the selectable dither algorithm stuff > > is mostly so people can experiment, although there would be a bit more > > reason to have that in a production release. > > > > Ok, I just grabbed the latest CVS with Dave's changes, and I have some > merge errors. I'll try to get this back out Friday afternoon. I'll > leave the ifdefs the way Mitch put them in so if you want to use the gtk > gui you'll have to change 2 lines in print.c: find where a #ifndef > GIMP_1_0 switches between gtk_* and gimp_*. Change those to #ifdef and > you'll force the use of the gtk gui. More tomorrow once I get things > working again. This will be more or less the original gui layout. It > will be a while before the notebook version is out, and I will try to > incorporate any interim changes as they occur (if I miss something I'm > sure I'll hear about it :)) If nobody objects I'll commit some code which adds a second menu entry so Gimp 1.1.x users can choose which ui they want. I was also thinking about naming the 2 procedures "file_print_gtk" and "file_print_gimp", so it installs nicely with the print plugin which ships with CVS gimp and which of course registers as "file_print". Currently we seem to share the same problem, as I have to rename the 3.1.x procedure to "file_print2" and revert this change before I commit something... Ok, so what about: "gimp_print_gtk" --> "<Image>/File/Print (Gtk)" "gimp_print_gimp" --> "<Image>/File/Print (Gimp)" > Mitch, this is incomplete, so you might want to wait until Robert fills > in the guts of the dither selection before incorporating it. Any > changes will be in *_color_window.c. Ok, I will wait for Robert's commit then. bye, --Mitch |
From: Michael N. <mit...@cs...> - 2000-04-14 11:19:31
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"S. Miller" wrote: > > Michael Natterer wrote: > > > > Yep, I'm aware of the problem. As we are in a development cycle, what > > about registering 2 PDB functions, one for the old and one for the > > new ui. When it comes to a release we will of course have to remove > > the second one :) > > > > Gnu make doesn't take gcc's -D into account when it calculates the > > dpeendencies, that's evil (TM). > > > > bye, > > --Mitch > > You mean 2 different plugins? That should work, but seems ugly. If its > ok with Robert, I can live with it. I have no idea how to go about it > though. Ehm, no, please not !-) I just meant to register 2 different PDB calls within one plugin and leting the run() function decide which ui to call depending on the name of the function passed. This is a frequently used technique in Gimp plugins. > For everyone's enlightenment (even if you don't use gnome), I am > currently working on shifting the entire gui into a GtkNotebook. It is > fairly slow going, as I'm having to restructure the entire table based > gui into multiple chunks. I'm hoping that the result will allow printer > specific additional notebook pages, as well as hide some detail from > casual users. That's a really cool idea. Do you mean to integrate the color settings back in the main notebook then? Personally, I like notebooks very much (can't say why, they just feel "natural" for me). > As for the trademarked evil, are you sure? I thought evil was > trademarked by Microsoft :) Heh :) --Mitch |
From: S. M. <sm...@rn...> - 2000-04-14 03:37:45
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Robert L Krawitz wrote: > > As it happens, the reason I want the selectable dither algorithm stuff > is mostly so people can experiment, although there would be a bit more > reason to have that in a production release. > Ok, I just grabbed the latest CVS with Dave's changes, and I have some merge errors. I'll try to get this back out Friday afternoon. I'll leave the ifdefs the way Mitch put them in so if you want to use the gtk gui you'll have to change 2 lines in print.c: find where a #ifndef GIMP_1_0 switches between gtk_* and gimp_*. Change those to #ifdef and you'll force the use of the gtk gui. More tomorrow once I get things working again. This will be more or less the original gui layout. It will be a while before the notebook version is out, and I will try to incorporate any interim changes as they occur (if I miss something I'm sure I'll hear about it :)) Mitch, this is incomplete, so you might want to wait until Robert fills in the guts of the dither selection before incorporating it. Any changes will be in *_color_window.c. Steve ----------------------------------------- Just because I have a short attention span doesn't mean I ------------------------------------------ |
From: Robert L K. <rl...@al...> - 2000-04-14 02:40:39
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Somebody posted a request for a suggestion about which HP printer to buy in the Open Discussion forum. Could someone check that out and get back to him? -- Robert Krawitz <rl...@al...> http://www.tiac.net/users/rlk/ Tall Clubs International -- http://www.tall.org/ or 1-888-IM-TALL-2 Member of the League for Programming Freedom -- mail lp...@uu... Project lead for The Gimp Print -- http://gimp-print.sourceforge.net "Linux doesn't dictate how I work, I dictate how Linux works." --Eric Crampton |
From: Robert L K. <rl...@al...> - 2000-04-14 02:40:03
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Date: Thu, 13 Apr 2000 19:20:34 -0700 From: "S. Miller" <sm...@rn...> Michael Natterer wrote: > > Yep, I'm aware of the problem. As we are in a development cycle, what > about registering 2 PDB functions, one for the old and one for the > new ui. When it comes to a release we will of course have to remove > the second one :) You mean 2 different plugins? That should work, but seems ugly. If its ok with Robert, I can live with it. I have no idea how to go about it though. Well, development is the time to do this. I wouldn't want to go into a release like that, but for development I have no problem. As it happens, the reason I want the selectable dither algorithm stuff is mostly so people can experiment, although there would be a bit more reason to have that in a production release. For everyone's enlightenment (even if you don't use gnome), I am currently working on shifting the entire gui into a GtkNotebook. It is fairly slow going, as I'm having to restructure the entire table based gui into multiple chunks. I'm hoping that the result will allow printer specific additional notebook pages, as well as hide some detail from casual users. Don't worry. Time is one thing we have plenty of. We'll do the release when *we* think it's good and ready. If there's one mistake I don't want to make it's to rule out interesting and useful ideas in a rush to get something out the door. -- Robert Krawitz <rl...@al...> http://www.tiac.net/users/rlk/ Tall Clubs International -- http://www.tall.org/ or 1-888-IM-TALL-2 Member of the League for Programming Freedom -- mail lp...@uu... Project lead for The Gimp Print -- http://gimp-print.sourceforge.net "Linux doesn't dictate how I work, I dictate how Linux works." --Eric Crampton |
From: S. M. <sm...@rn...> - 2000-04-14 02:21:09
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Michael Natterer wrote: > > Yep, I'm aware of the problem. As we are in a development cycle, what > about registering 2 PDB functions, one for the old and one for the > new ui. When it comes to a release we will of course have to remove > the second one :) > > Gnu make doesn't take gcc's -D into account when it calculates the > dpeendencies, that's evil (TM). > > bye, > --Mitch You mean 2 different plugins? That should work, but seems ugly. If its ok with Robert, I can live with it. I have no idea how to go about it though. For everyone's enlightenment (even if you don't use gnome), I am currently working on shifting the entire gui into a GtkNotebook. It is fairly slow going, as I'm having to restructure the entire table based gui into multiple chunks. I'm hoping that the result will allow printer specific additional notebook pages, as well as hide some detail from casual users. As for the trademarked evil, are you sure? I thought evil was trademarked by Microsoft :) Steve ----------------------------------------- Just because I have a short attention span doesn't mean I ------------------------------------------ |
From: Robert L K. <rl...@al...> - 2000-04-13 23:46:46
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Date: Thu, 13 Apr 2000 13:39:45 -0400 From: James Moger <ja...@tr...> After trying out several of the different printing systems I have concluded that the gimp-print package gives me the highest quality for the printers I am testing with. I am trying to choose a printing system for a project of mine - I've played with PDQ, lpd, CUPS, etc. I really like the internal support for HP Laserjets and Deskjets you've got in your plug-in. Is there an easy way to modify your source to make it a stand-alone program? I downloaded the latest stable and latest devel release - I saw the Makefile.standalone - but that is not what I want, right? The goal is to use your code almost like a Win print dialog. At least for files. Maybe it could be extended to include window handles or something. Is this feasible or should I keep going with PDQ or lpd or whatever? It is designed to work with other clients, but I wouldn't suggest that approach. The Epson driver is already buildable as a Ghostscript driver, and I would suggest doing that with the PCL driver as well (probably do a single unified driver for both, actually). There's already a PDQ description included; see the Ghost subdirectory for information. So what I'd suggest is bringing the PCL (and Canon) drivers into the Ghostscript driver, and using that with PDQ or CUPS as your front end. Since the Epson driver's already done, it shouldn't be very hard to fit the PCL driver into the same framework. It's just a matter of deciding how to do it. -- Robert Krawitz <rl...@al...> http://www.tiac.net/users/rlk/ Tall Clubs International -- http://www.tall.org/ or 1-888-IM-TALL-2 Member of the League for Programming Freedom -- mail lp...@uu... Project lead for The Gimp Print -- http://gimp-print.sourceforge.net "Linux doesn't dictate how I work, I dictate how Linux works." --Eric Crampton |
From: Dave H. <da...@mi...> - 2000-04-13 19:20:33
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Michael Natterer wrote: > [snip] > Please do it. > It has been done! Dave -- Dave Hill, Kempston, Bedford UK da...@mi... davehill at users.sourceforge.net Sicth munce ago, I cutn't evun spel enjuneer, and now I are one! |
From: Robert L K. <rl...@al...> - 2000-04-13 13:14:39
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Date: Thu, 13 Apr 2000 14:12:08 +0200 From: Michael Natterer <mit...@cs...> BTW, I'm about to commit stuff to gimp-print and I'm not quite sure about the project's ChangeLog policy. Where are the changes logged? The ChangeLog looke quite unused right now. We've been sloppy about change logs per se. The best thing for now is to simply use a good cvs commit message. |
From: Jean-Jacques de J. <jea...@hp...> - 2000-04-13 12:50:18
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Dave Hill wrote: > > The current CVS will not compile with GIMP 1.0.4. I have some > patches "ready to roll" to fix this, if it OK with the UI chaps > to submit them. > > Dave > > -- > Dave Hill, Kempston, Bedford UK da...@mi... > davehill at users.sourceforge.net > Sicth munce ago, I cutn't evun spel enjuneer, and now I are one! OK, I installed gimp-1.1.19, and gimp-print compiled fine. But now when I "make install", I get the following: make[1]: Entering directory `/home/jj/print' /bin/sh ./mkinstalldirs /usr/local/bin /usr/bin/install -c unprint /usr/local/bin/unprint /usr/bin/install -c escp2-weavetest /usr/local/bin/escp2-weavetest /usr/bin/install -c pcl-unprint /usr/local/bin/pcl-unprint /usr/bin/gimptool --install-admin-bin print /usr/bin/install -c print /plug-ins/print /usr/bin/install: cannot create regular file `/plug-ins/print': No such file or directory make[1]: *** [install-libexecPROGRAMS] Error 1 make[1]: Leaving directory `/home/jj/print' make: *** [install-am] Error 2 JJJ |
From: Michael N. <mit...@cs...> - 2000-04-13 12:23:38
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"S. Miller" wrote: > > I'm ready to commit some changes with the skeleton for selection of > dither algorithms. However, I ran into a slight problem with the > changes for slection of gimp vs gtk gui code. It appears that Mitsch > added some switches based on whether you're compiling for gimp 1.0.x. > The problem is that all of us are using 1.1.x and the gtk code is never > used. I can get around this in my sandbox by changing the 2 "#ifndef > GIMP_1_0" lines to "#ifdef GIMP_1_0", which then shifts the else to be > true, and gtk stuff is used. But this will break the gimp code. The > switch needs to be done on both gimp 1.1 vs 1.0 as well as gimp vs > standalone. I tried to pass an argument in, but gnu make apparantly > doesn't understand the -D flag. I'm assuming here that we're delivering > the gimp version with gimp and keeping the gtk version towards working > the generalized solution. Yep, I'm aware of the problem. As we are in a development cycle, what about registering 2 PDB functions, one for the old and one for the new ui. When it comes to a release we will of course have to remove the second one :) Gnu make doesn't take gcc's -D into account when it calculates the dpeendencies, that's evil (TM). bye, --Mitch |
From: Michael N. <mit...@cs...> - 2000-04-13 12:18:30
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Dave Hill wrote: > > Hi > > The current defines in gtk*.c and gimp*.c don't work anyway, because > the only definition of GIMP_1_0 is in print.c. To make them work > this definition needs moving to print_gimp.h. Eek, I've messed this up when adding the gimp_* files because I don't have Gimp 1.0.x here, sorry. > Also, in gtk*, the whole code should be surrounded by > #ifdef GIMP_1_0, otherwise you will be compiling both sets for > gimp 1.1.x. Also true. > The reason I note this is because I am still using gimp 1.0.4, > I haven't "upgraded" to the development version. > > I have a set of patches ready to submit for these changes, > also to fix a couple of minor bugs:- Please do it. BTW, I'm about to commit stuff to gimp-print and I'm not quite sure about the project's ChangeLog policy. Where are the changes logged? The ChangeLog looke quite unused right now. bye, --Mitch |
From: Robert L K. <rl...@al...> - 2000-04-13 12:17:20
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I've put some new dithering stuff in the dither2-branch branch that I'd like people to try and comment on. This uses a hybrid of Floyd-Steinberg and ordered dither. It should work much better with variable dot size printers. Although I've only tested it on my Stylus Photo EX, it uses the same principles on that printer (different ink colors) as on printers with variable dot sizes. It seems to be smoother, but more banding is visible. I think I need a matrix that is not a power of 2 in dimension to get rid of the banding. I've been working on it off and on for about a month now. Thanks to Thomas Tonino for lots of discussion on this topic. To try this out: cvs update -r dither2-branch -- Robert Krawitz <rl...@al...> http://www.tiac.net/users/rlk/ Tall Clubs International -- http://www.tall.org/ or 1-888-IM-TALL-2 Member of the League for Programming Freedom -- mail lp...@uu... Project lead for The Gimp Print -- http://gimp-print.sourceforge.net "Linux doesn't dictate how I work, I dictate how Linux works." --Eric Crampton |
From: Karl H. K. <kh...@kh...> - 2000-04-13 12:16:27
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Did somebody answer to this request? I just tried to access sourceforge.net without any success. I don't know if the problem is on sourceforge or on my side of the net (we are in the middle of a major network up/down/side-grade right now). Karl Heinz Forwarded From: no...@so... > Read and respond to this message at: > http://sourceforge.net/forum/message.php?msg_id=21566 > By: tidd > > I am running Caldera OpenLinux 2.3 exclusively on my PC. I have an Epson Stylus Color 900, which I can't seem to get to print anything but plain ascii text. I would like to make a deal. I saw on this site that my printer requires testing. I would like to trade testing on my printer for having my hand held through making the printer work at all. As an added bonus, I have a masters degree in Machine Vision, so I know a little something about image processing. I would also like to offer my services in whatever capacity I can be of assistance. |
From: Dave H. <da...@mi...> - 2000-04-13 11:12:10
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The current CVS will not compile with GIMP 1.0.4. I have some patches "ready to roll" to fix this, if it OK with the UI chaps to submit them. Dave -- Dave Hill, Kempston, Bedford UK da...@mi... davehill at users.sourceforge.net Sicth munce ago, I cutn't evun spel enjuneer, and now I are one! |
From: Dave H. <da...@mi...> - 2000-04-13 11:08:24
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Hi The current defines in gtk*.c and gimp*.c don't work anyway, because the only definition of GIMP_1_0 is in print.c. To make them work this definition needs moving to print_gimp.h. Also, in gtk*, the whole code should be surrounded by #ifdef GIMP_1_0, otherwise you will be compiling both sets for gimp 1.1.x. The reason I note this is because I am still using gimp 1.0.4, I haven't "upgraded" to the development version. I have a set of patches ready to submit for these changes, also to fix a couple of minor bugs:- "Adjust" is spelt wrong in gtk_color_window.c The PPD file box and browser button appear when they shouldn't. If you select a printer from the list and select an option for it (e.g. media source), then select a printer with no media source selections, the previous source is used instead of it being reset. This applies to media_types, media_sources, ink_types and resolutions. Dave -- Dave Hill, Kempston, Bedford UK da...@mi... davehill at users.sourceforge.net Sicth munce ago, I cutn't evun spel enjuneer, and now I are one! |
From: Jean-Jacques de J. <jea...@hp...> - 2000-04-13 07:34:29
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When I compile the latest cvs, I get: gcc -DPACKAGE=\"print\" -DVERSION=\"3.1.2\" -DYYTEXT_POINTER=1 -DSTDC_HEADERS=1 -DHAVE_UNISTD_H=1 -DRETSIGTYPE=void -I. -I. -I.-I/usr/X11R6/include -I/usr/lib/glib/include -I/usr/local/include -DLOCALEDIR=\"""\" -Wall -DLPR_COMMAND=\"/usr/bin/lpr\" -g -O2 -c gimp_color_window.c gimp_color_window.c: In function `gimp_create_color_adjust_window': gimp_color_window.c:77: warning: implicit declaration of function `gimp_dialog_new' gimp_color_window.c:78: `gimp_plugin_help_func' undeclared (first use in this function) gimp_color_window.c:78: (Each undeclared identifier is reported only once gimp_color_window.c:78: for each function it appears in.) gimp_color_window.c:85: warning: assignment makes pointer from integer without a cast gimp_color_window.c:100: warning: implicit declaration of function `gimp_scale_entry_new' gimp_color_window.c:104: warning: assignment makes pointer from integer without a cast gimp_color_window.c:118: warning: assignment makes pointer from integer without a cast gimp_color_window.c:132: warning: assignment makes pointer from integer without a cast gimp_color_window.c:146: warning: assignment makes pointer from integer without a cast gimp_color_window.c:160: warning: assignment makes pointer from integer without a cast gimp_color_window.c:174: warning: assignment makes pointer from integer without a cast gimp_color_window.c:188: warning: assignment makes pointer from integer without a cast gimp_color_window.c:202: warning: assignment makes pointer from integer without a cast make: *** [gimp_color_window.o] Error 1 This happens on a Mandrake 6.1 or 7.0 distro, with gimp-1.0.4. JJJ |
From: S. M. <sm...@rn...> - 2000-04-13 00:17:56
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I'm ready to commit some changes with the skeleton for selection of dither algorithms. However, I ran into a slight problem with the changes for slection of gimp vs gtk gui code. It appears that Mitsch added some switches based on whether you're compiling for gimp 1.0.x. The problem is that all of us are using 1.1.x and the gtk code is never used. I can get around this in my sandbox by changing the 2 "#ifndef GIMP_1_0" lines to "#ifdef GIMP_1_0", which then shifts the else to be true, and gtk stuff is used. But this will break the gimp code. The switch needs to be done on both gimp 1.1 vs 1.0 as well as gimp vs standalone. I tried to pass an argument in, but gnu make apparantly doesn't understand the -D flag. I'm assuming here that we're delivering the gimp version with gimp and keeping the gtk version towards working the generalized solution. I'm looking for a solution to this - I don't have a good answer. Robert, the changes I made are to print.c (adding some dither related variables) and the selection menu and callbacks in gtk_color_window.c - if you want I can just email them to you. You will need to add a function in print.c or somewhere to fill in the dither name array and then put whatever code you need in the callback to select the dither function. Steve -- ----------------------------------------- Just because I have a short attention span doesn't mean I ------------------------------------------ |