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Re: [ggc-development] GGC not running on Windows Vista

[Reinhold R. <ru...@us...>]

Continued from 
https://sourceforge.net/projects/ggc/forums/forum/163785/topic/4574064:
Aleksander Rozman - Andy wrote:
> I can set permissions on any directory or even files...
> 
> We need almost all directories writable, even thoose with jars... When
> upgrade will be working (soon I hope), we will also put files into that
> directories. At current time we have bin\ and data\ which must be
> writable, when update will be working we will also have to write into lib\
> and perhaps even into docs\.

As with the multi-user thing: until that works, we don't need those 
directories writable. (And when it works, it needs to be an external updater 
program, anyway, so we can start that as root/administrator and be done with 
the permission problems.)
And before we resort to implementing this absolute security nightmare called 
"making our binaries world-writable", we need to seriously consider getting 
permission escalation to work properly.

Do you think the whole permission escalation thing should go into planned 
features or bugs?

> Software is not is system directories. Per default we installl into Program
> Files\ which SHOULD be default instalation of any software.

Not sure if I am interpreting this correctly, but assuming I do:
C:\Program Files\ *is* a system directory (just ask Windows).

> It's bigger problem right now to determine if you are using Vista/7 or 8
> machine and then write to "special" directory (I don't like that software
> is installed in some user directories), then to change permissions...

AFAIK, you can't tell which OS version you're running on from inside Java. I 
used to work for a company as part of the practical part of my university 
studies, and they needed to know which OS they were running on from inside 
Java. They used an external C program they interfaced with using JNA - 
apparently that was the only way to tell which version of Windows they were 
on. (There's the system property "os.version", but for my Debian Wheezy, it's 
"3.2.0-4-amd64", so I doubt that can be of any help.)


Anyway, in recent versions of Windows, the C:\Users\<name>\AppData directory 
(or rather one of the sub-directories) is where user-specific data is supposed 
to go. In Java, I'd probably just use the "user.home" system property for 
user-specific data. But that's somewhat off-topic of me.

> Actually only Users have permissions to write to that diurtectory, so if
> someone would access your computer from outside (and wouldn't be local
> user) he/she couldn't write to that directory. Now if we have domain
> computer then all users of domain could run application.

Any program that is executed locally can modify GGC if the permissions are set 
this way. That means the young hacker can do it even if the parents set up the 
user accounts properly. That means the next Virus that comes along can modify 
GGC.
We're writing a medical application here, and even if it isn't really ready 
for the average user to use, we can't leave such security holes. If you ever 
let your security get lax, you'll never recover - see Microsoft/Windows.

  --Reinhold

Re: [ggc-development] Abbott Freestyle meter

[Aleksander R. - A. <an...@t-...>]

On 09/12/2010 08:06 PM, Andrew Lunn wrote:
> Hi
>
> I read that it is planned to support some Abbott meters. I also found
> on the forum that Abbott Optium Xceed was nearing completion.
>
> Has anybody worked on Abbott FreeStyle meters? I have a FreeStyle Lite
> as my main meter and a FreeStyle Freedom lite as a backup.
>
> Are the Optimum Xceed and the FreeStyle compatible for the download
> protocol?
>
>     Thanks
> 	Andrew
>    

Hi Andrew !

Optium Xceed is finished and it will be released in new update (which 
should be out soon)... I talked with local representatives of Abbott and 
since we don't have FreeStyle meters here I haven't put this on priority 
plan... As I am aware protocol of Abbott Freestyle is much simpler that 
that of Xceed. Please contact me offlist for more info, or maybe we 
could do this together, since I don't have any devices to test it on, 
you would have to test me code, or even better you can implement it 
yourself... I have several code snipets, which could help you further...

Take care,
Andy

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[ggc-development] Abbott Freestyle meter

[Andrew L. <an...@lu...>]

Hi 

I read that it is planned to support some Abbott meters. I also found
on the forum that Abbott Optium Xceed was nearing completion.

Has anybody worked on Abbott FreeStyle meters? I have a FreeStyle Lite
as my main meter and a FreeStyle Freedom lite as a backup.

Are the Optimum Xceed and the FreeStyle compatible for the download
protocol?

   Thanks
	Andrew

[ggc-development] I would like to develop the Gnu Gluco Software

[Henrik <he...@gm...>]

Hi Andy Rozman,
I am a bloke in the thirties and have a lot of spare time, that I could use
to help developing the Gnu Gluco Software.
I read about the program just a few weeks ago and have been thinking of
developing for the Open Source Software
Community for a couple of years now. So I thought this project is a good
place to learn and study code, as it involves
communication between apparatuses amongst things . Not just apparatuses -
man to machine as well.
Not just code but also to discuss relevant topics. My background is an
engineer in mechanics and I live in Sweden.
I have used Linux Fedora for five years now and have done some programming
on the Arduino boards and
databases as well. My experience though is somewhat restricted, but I am
willing to learn.
/henrik wistbacka

Re: [ggc-development] Wanna Help

[Andy R. (Aleksander) <an...@tr...>]

Uttaran Dutta <dut...@gm...> wrote:

> Hello GGC team,
> 
> I am Computer Engineer from India & Type 1 Diabetic. I came across this 
> project about 3 years back, but did not find  opportunity to help or use 
> it till now. Professionally i am a Linux kernel programmer with only 
> basic knowledge of Java good knowledge in C/Linux kernel & device 
> drivers hacking & no knowledge of Windows programming. I am going 
> through the code base & I understand the major front end management is 
> in Java, but I would like to help in anyway i can.  As far as device 
> wise I use injectables  &  have  Life Scan  One Touch Ultra 2  (marketed 
> in India by Jhonson & Jhonshon). I am yet to try to connect to the 
> device with GGC on Linux (by the way i only have access to linux boxes).

Hi Uttaran !

Any help is welcome. I use GGC under Linux and windows and it works good for
me. 
Problem with OT Ultra 2 is, that when I did adding of LifeScan devices I was
told that OT Ultra 2 uses same protocol as OT Ultra, which later turned out to
be incorrect. I have protocol at home so I can forward it to you (please
contact me on my other email an...@t-...) and you can take look at it... 
GGC is written fully in java (not just front end), but if you know C++ (or
even C) you will understand most of stuff that is happening. I can even point
you to a good book to start with Java (since you have computer knowledge,
starting with Hello World aplication in java wouldn't be right for you <grin>)

Take care,
Andy


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[ggc-development] Wanna Help

[Uttaran D. <dut...@gm...>]

Hello GGC team,

I am Computer Engineer from India & Type 1 Diabetic. I came across this 
project about 3 years back, but did not find  opportunity to help or use 
it till now. Professionally i am a Linux kernel programmer with only 
basic knowledge of Java good knowledge in C/Linux kernel & device 
drivers hacking & no knowledge of Windows programming. I am going 
through the code base & I understand the major front end management is 
in Java, but I would like to help in anyway i can.  As far as device 
wise I use injectables  &  have  Life Scan  One Touch Ultra 2  (marketed 
in India by Jhonson & Jhonshon). I am yet to try to connect to the 
device with GGC on Linux (by the way i only have access to linux boxes).

--
Enjoy
Uttaran Dutta

Re: [ggc-development] Offer of assistance

[Andy R. (Aleksander) <an...@tr...>]

Hi Kris !

Nice to hear from you. We need all help we can get... I just started working
on Animas import last week. We don't read data from pump, but from Db (for Ez
Manager Plus 5) and from EZM xml (from EZ Max).... Would you be willing to
"hack" Animas communication? We will start supporting several devices in next
major release (at end of year) through export files from different software (I
call this Level 1 support), which is not really good solution especially for
users who use platforms other than Windows (most of this software packages is
in windows...). So I need people willing to "hack" (listen to device->software
communication) their pumps/cgms and help implement direct support (Level 2
support). I plan to start "hacking" paradigm from my friend... I have whole
Minimed Carelink code, but it's soooo... bad... that I will need to rewrite
most of it...

So very welcome... Please contact me on my email: andy(at)t-2.net, so that we
can can talk about details... 

Andy

[ggc-development] Offer of assistance

[Kris S. <kri...@gm...>]

I ran across the project last night and thought that I could probably lend a
hand. I am a computer engineer as well as a type 1 diabetic in the US. I
have been on a pump for nearly 10 years. I am actually in the process of
switching from the Animas IR2020 to the Minimed Paradigm (I still have the
animas pump for future testing purposes). I have to admit that I haven't
written any Java code in a couple of years. I will go through the source
code and work to gain an understanding of the design.

Thanks
Kris

Re: [ggc-development] Eclipse on Ubuntu Karmic (Was: ascii import filter for old data?)

[rumbi <ru...@us...>]

Am Mittwoch 16 Dezember 2009 schrieb Andy Rozman:
> rumbi wrote:
> > Am Dienstag 15 Dezember 2009 schrieb Andy Rozman:
> >> I use Eclipse 3.5 on Ubuntu x64. It works fine, I had some
> >>  starting problems, if eclipse doesn't work out of the box let
> >> me know and I will send you my script.
> >> Take a look at that instructions and you will be ready and
> >> running within 2 hours.
> >
> > Which version of Ubuntu? Karmic? If so, are you using the one
> > from the repos or one that was downloaded from the Eclipse site?
> >
> > If the latter, has your version become unstable to the point
> > where it isn't even usable anymore, too?
> 
> Mhm. I have Ubuntu 9.10, which I think is Karmic. I downloaded
>  latest Eclipse from eclipse site, but that version doesn't work
>  OK on Ubuntu, because of some wrong calls to graphics (error in
>  eclipse). I fixed by using following script:
> 
> -- start
> # !/bin/sh
> export GDK_NATIVE_WINDOWS=1
> /home/andy/eclipse/eclipse
> -- end

A slightly more generalised version of the script:
-- start
#!/bin/bash

GDK_NATIVE_WINDOWS=1 "${@}"
-- end

This way it is applicable to any program not properly ported to the 
new GTK (flashplugin, Adobe Reader, ...). If you put the script in 
your path, you just need to prefix all the calls with the script.
Example:
If you would normally call eclipse with
"/usr/bin/eclipse -param1 -param2 -param3" and you called the script 
"fix_gdk_issue.sh" you could simply call eclipse with
"fix_gdk_issue.sh /usr/bin/eclipse -param1 -param2 -param3" and 
everything should work fine. (It works here...)

  --rumbi

Re: [ggc-development] ascii import filter for old data?

[Sven R. <rom...@go...>]

Hi,

Thank you for the import information. 

And for the number of developer problem: i've seen a german diabetes
site where mac users wanted to start developing a java software like GGC
allready is. i hope i'll find that forum again an can redirect them to
GGC and hope they'll help.
choice is good but as for now where there is no software for non-windows
plattforms except ggc which is obviously pre 1.0 all efforts should be
put into one project so that this will as good as the commercial Windows
apps out there.

I hope I'll find the forum again and can convince them to help
developing GGC.

regards Sven

Re: [ggc-development] Eclipse on Ubuntu Karmic

[rumbi <ru...@us...>]

Am Mittwoch 16 Dezember 2009 schrieb Andy Rozman:
> Mhm. I have Ubuntu 9.10, which I think is Karmic.

It is ;-)

> I downloaded
>  latest Eclipse from eclipse site, but that version doesn't work
>  OK on Ubuntu, because of some wrong calls to graphics (error in
>  eclipse). I fixed by using following script:
> 
> -- start
> # !/bin/sh
> export GDK_NATIVE_WINDOWS=1
> /home/andy/eclipse/eclipse
> -- end

*THANK YOU* for that piece of information, this has been annoying me 
for a while now. I'll try it and see if it also fixes the crashes 
I've been experiencing for nearly a week now.

> After that Eclipse works OK. (I have 3.5.1 Classic)

I've been trying 3.4 and 3.5 with both exhibiting the crashes. Only 
3.5 had the repainting problem.

  --rumbi

Re: [ggc-development] Eclipse on Ubuntu Karmic (Was: ascii import filter for old data?)

[Andy R. <an...@tr...>]

rumbi wrote:
> Am Dienstag 15 Dezember 2009 schrieb Andy Rozman:
>   
>> I use Eclipse 3.5 on Ubuntu x64. It works fine, I had some
>>  starting problems, if eclipse doesn't work out of the box let me
>>  know and I will send you my script.
>> Take a look at that instructions and you will be ready and running
>> within 2 hours.
>>     
>
> Which version of Ubuntu? Karmic? If so, are you using the one from 
> the repos or one that was downloaded from the Eclipse site?
>
> If the latter, has your version become unstable to the point where it 
> isn't even usable anymore, too?
>
>   
Mhm. I have Ubuntu 9.10, which I think is Karmic. I downloaded latest 
Eclipse from eclipse site, but that version doesn't work OK on Ubuntu, 
because of some wrong calls to graphics (error in eclipse). I fixed by 
using following script:

-- start
# !/bin/sh
export GDK_NATIVE_WINDOWS=1
/home/andy/eclipse/eclipse
-- end

After that Eclipse works OK. (I have 3.5.1 Classic)

Andy

[ggc-development] Eclipse on Ubuntu Karmic (Was: ascii import filter for old data?)

[rumbi <ru...@us...>]

Am Dienstag 15 Dezember 2009 schrieb Andy Rozman:
> I use Eclipse 3.5 on Ubuntu x64. It works fine, I had some
>  starting problems, if eclipse doesn't work out of the box let me
>  know and I will send you my script.
> Take a look at that instructions and you will be ready and running
> within 2 hours.

Which version of Ubuntu? Karmic? If so, are you using the one from 
the repos or one that was downloaded from the Eclipse site?

If the latter, has your version become unstable to the point where it 
isn't even usable anymore, too?

  --rumbi

Re: [ggc-development] ascii import filter for old data?

[Andy R. <an...@tr...>]

Sven Romeike wrote:
> Hi,
>
>   
Hi Sven !


> I'm a computer science student from germany who wants to help this
> project because my father has diabetes and the old software he has is
> the only thing that keeps him from using linux as primary operating
> system.
>
>   
You are welcome to use it. I am running linux at this time (I was tired 
of windows, and really pi**ed off, because everzthing stopped working, 
few weeks back, so I am back to linux now... Hoping never to return to 
Windows land (wishful thinking)

> currently he uses "Diabass4" from mediaspects. The programm uses some
> kind of Microsoft Jet Database stuff and i don't know how i can get the
> data out of there. The good thing is that the software also can export
> to a simple ascii file. So an import to GGC shouldn't be that hard to
> realise in Java i hope :)
>
>   
We already have some form of import... A while ago I created methods for 
backing up and restoring data, which can be used for your purpose. I 
plan to do real import/export, but at this point this is not priority. 
So easiest is to do Restore, which will create zip file of several file, 
one file for one table. What you need to look at is file DayValueH. This 
is export/import file for all data under Pen/Injection. Here is how it 
looks inside:

; Columns: id; dt_info; bg; ins1; ins2; ch; meals_ids; extended; 
person_id; comment; changed
5|200604031230|0|8|0|0.0|null|null|1|null|0

As you can see in comment from inside file here are entries:
id = ID in database, if this is 0, then new ID will be assigned
dt_info = datetime info in Atech format, this is yyyymmddhhnn (nn are 
minutes, you must prefix numbers less that 10 with zero 1 = 01)
bg = this is BG in mg/dL format (integer)
ins1 = amount of insulin - bolus (integer)
ins2 = amount of insulin - basal (integer)
ch = CH value (float)
meals_ids = ids for meals, set this to null
extended = extended data, set this to null
person_id = id of person, set this to 1
comment = comment
changed = time in ms, you can set this to 0

File is in UTF-8, so be careful.

You will need to write parser, so that it will create format like this, 
when we at later time decide to import data from other software 
sollutions, we might reuse it. Theoretically you could bypass the middle 
step and add data yourself, but since you are new to GGC this would be 
easier.

After you have this data, add it to existing export from GGC, and then 
do import and do NOT check option Append data (or something like this)...

This shouldn't be a problem even if you haven't programmed before.

> Do you have some data import filters allready planned or how can i help
> so that data import from my fathers old files will be possible?
>
> If you need some Testers here is the Hardware/Software we got:
>
> Laptop:
> Asus A3823GLH
>
> running DualBoot 
> 	Ubuntu 9.10 Karmic Koala 32Bit 
> 	Windows XP 32bit with the old Data. 
>
> Java Version is the Sun Java 1.6 from the Ubuntu Package
>
> The glucose meter we have are:
> 	Lifescan One Touch Ultra which i can use for testing stuff
> 	Lifescan One Touch Ultra Easy
> 	Both via USB to Serial Cable
>
>
> I'm can code Java but have not so much experience with details so I'd
> like to learn from you and help the project to become THE standard
> opensource diabetes management software.
>
>   
I have read through whole thread, and this are my comments....

> We have CS courses? I was only aware of Informatik and 
> Softwaretechnik and some hybrids with other subject areas.

I translated my profession the same... I would probable be in 
"Softwaretechnik", but Computer sciences looks more interesting...

> He tried it and likes it i guess. He especially likes the HbA1c value
> which is shown in GCC because for that he needed to ask the doctor
> because he didn't know how to get that value with his old software.

This is not real HbA1c, this calculated version... So it's not so real 
as the real one... If your father makes a lot of readings per day, then 
this could be quite accurate, but it could still be very wrong....

> I'm slightly out of the loop here, as I've been concentrating on my 
> studies for over a year now. I used to be responsible for replacing 
> our buggy and crude diagrams with JFreeChart replacements, but 
> somebody else took over from me. You should ask Andy (SF user 
> "andyrozman") for details.


Mea Culpa (I am guilty)... I just made new framework for easier 
implementation of new graphs, I just havent had time to add any new 
ones... Person who wanted to help with graph "quit" or didn't came 
around to it... I introduced bug into second graph and I have problem 
finding it, after this bug is found and eliminated graph should work...


> If you want to contribute or simply have a look at it, I suggest 
> using eclipse

I use Eclipse 3.5 on Ubuntu x64. It works fine, I had some starting 
problems, if eclipse doesn't work out of the box let me know and I will 
send you my script.
Take a look at that instructions and you will be ready and running 
within 2 hours.


> I personally wouldn't want to tell my doctor about it until it has 
> reached a somewhat higher level of stability. Non-IT people have a 
> habit of judging a program by their first impression, even if it 
> isn't nearly finished.

Actually the more advertisment we have, the better it is. Software has 
bugs, but we are fixing it, as we encounter them. If you want to wait 
for more stable release it will never happen. Old functionalities which 
are tested through become more stable, but each new addition, has 
possibilty to be buggy... More users, mean more potential testers, and 
higher possibility to make code more stable. This is open source 
software, which means it will never be finished, unless all java 
developers die and all JDKs disappear, and nobody could work on code 
anymore... Doctors are even more special testing group, since they can 
advise, what they would like to see... First report was made by my idea, 
and looked similar as my notebook for diabetes, my doctor didn't like it 
so, then came extended report, which has all the details...


The only reason to introduce you father's doc to GGC or a similar 
program is for them to pass the recommendation on to other patients, 
which is something GGC will likely not be ready for within the next 
couple of years (too few active developers - Andy is the only one ATM 
and he, too, has other things to attend to).

If software has just 10 users it will never be stable. We need more 
users and more developers, but the second are really hard to get by in 
this M$ oriented world... So will have to do with users... I am using 
actively GGC for myself so it gets better, I fix all bugs I find, all 
that require big changes are put on waiting list to be solved, but bugs 
that are show stoppers are fixed ASAP...

I am still working on two big functionalities, and after they are done, 
we will go to version 1.0, functionalities missing are Software Update 
and full Help implementation and Help files (in English). This was 
planned for next release, but time got away from me... again. I am 
currently working on language tool (for easier translations), which 
should be ready by end of year.

So take care for now, if you have question just post them here, ...

Andy





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Re: [ggc-development] ascii import filter for old data?

[rumbi <ru...@us...>]

Am Sonntag 13 Dezember 2009 schrieb Sven Romeike:
<big snippage>
> > > Action  Date		Time	Value   Event   Comment
> > > 0       yyyy/mm/dd      hh:mm   vvv     0
> > > 0       yyyy/mm/dd      hh:mm   vvv     0
> > > and so on
> >
> > What does the "Action" field mean?
> > It looks like your basic CSV with tabs instead of commas. Should
> > be doable.
> 
> I don't know action in my fathers data are allways 0. Event seems
>  to be 0 when the input was read from the device and some number
>  if it was filled in by hand.
> So it seems to be nothing important, just additional info. The
>  comments are needed but on a linux editor the "ö, ä, ü" letters
>  are odd. There is Something like <E4> and so on. But that is no
>  Problem and can be edited by hand if needed. I need only date,
>  time value (mg/dl) and if supported the comment.

You're probably just using the wrong charset (the editor likely 
expects UTF-8 while DIABASS uses cp 1252 or something). You could try 
using the native2ascii tool provided by the JDK to convert special 
characters into unicode strings.

<snip>
> > If you want to contribute or simply have a look at it, I suggest
> > using eclipse (not the shittish version Karmic provides) with
> > the
> 
> What do you mean by that? Karmic does at least have galileo which
>  should be the most recent stable version of eclipse.

Yes, but they make adjustments to get eclipse to run on openJDK, 
which causes random errors when you try to use third party plugins 
like subclipse. (At least they used to, which caused me to 
permanently ignore their version.) Another pretty good reason is, 
that it takes them a while to update to the latest version. There are 
*no* version upgrades within a release, and if the latest eclipse is 
released a month or so before the next version of Ubuntu, you're 
going to have to wait half a year to get it (i.e. the Ubuntu release 
after the next).
For more problems with the Ubuntu eclipse, consult your favourite 
search engine...

> > I personally wouldn't want to tell my doctor about it until it
> > has reached a somewhat higher level of stability. Non-IT people
> > have a habit of judging a program by their first impression,
> > even if it isn't nearly finished.
> >
> > Also, by using GGC, he'll effectively be a beta tester. You
> > should be aware of that.
> 
> I just wanted to express, that he likes the software and would
>  even recommend it if it was final... :D
> I would talk him out of giving his doctor some unstable early
>  Version :)
> 
> But at least i could tell him to ask his doctor which programm he
>  uses so that there will be a good export filter in ggc for that
>  too. I guess he'll have some buisness version of some windows
>  software or something like that.

My family doctor (=Hausarzt) uses Excel and my diabetes doc uses 
something very similar. AFAIK, most doctors will be fine with PDF or 
printouts, and they mustn't accept digital files anyway. To 
summarise: this shouldn't really be a concern... ;-)
The only reason to introduce you father's doc to GGC or a similar 
program is for them to pass the recommendation on to other patients, 
which is something GGC will likely not be ready for within the next 
couple of years (too few active developers - Andy is the only one ATM 
and he, too, has other things to attend to).

  --rumbi

Re: [ggc-development] ascii import filter for old data?

[Sven R. <rom...@go...>]

Hi, 

Am Sonntag, den 13.12.2009, 19:39 +0100 schrieb rumbi:

> > He tried it and likes it i guess. He especially likes the HbA1c
> > value which is shown in GCC because for that he needed to ask the
> > doctor because he didn't know how to get that value with his old
> > software.

why do i allways write gcc instead of ggc... 

> The HbA1c is more of a guesstimate and you shouldn't rely on it. 
> Depending on how many readings are available and how frequently and 
> when they are taken, this value may deviate greatly from the lab 
> measurements. IOW, he should still see his doctor about this!

Thought so as google told me the lab value is usually taken from one
bigger bloodsample.

> > He doesn't have any "special" data. He just archives his mg/dl
> >  values with date and time.
> > The ASCII File which DIABASS can export is just a filename.asc
> >  with data in the following form:
> > 
> > Action  Date		Time	Value   Event   Comment
> > 0       yyyy/mm/dd      hh:mm   vvv     0
> > 0       yyyy/mm/dd      hh:mm   vvv     0
> > and so on
> 
> What does the "Action" field mean?
> It looks like your basic CSV with tabs instead of commas. Should be 
> doable.

I don't know action in my fathers data are allways 0. Event seems to be
0 when the input was read from the device and some number if it was
filled in by hand.
So it seems to be nothing important, just additional info. The comments
are needed but on a linux editor the "ö, ä, ü" letters are odd. There is
Something like <E4> and so on. But that is no Problem and can be edited
by hand if needed. I need only date, time value (mg/dl) and if supported
the comment.

> I'm slightly out of the loop here, as I've been concentrating on my 
> studies for over a year now. I used to be responsible for replacing 
> our buggy and crude diagrams with JFreeChart replacements, but 
> somebody else took over from me. You should ask Andy (SF user 
> "andyrozman") for details.

thx

> I hope Andy will be along to answer this. I don't know anything about 
> our plugin architecture, I'm afraid.
> 
> If you want to contribute or simply have a look at it, I suggest 
> using eclipse (not the shittish version Karmic provides) with the 

What do you mean by that? Karmic does at least have galileo which should
be the most recent stable version of eclipse.

> > My father said the gcc software could even be interesting for his
> > diabetes doctor.
> 
> I personally wouldn't want to tell my doctor about it until it has 
> reached a somewhat higher level of stability. Non-IT people have a 
> habit of judging a program by their first impression, even if it 
> isn't nearly finished.
> 
> Also, by using GGC, he'll effectively be a beta tester. You should be 
> aware of that.

I just wanted to express, that he likes the software and would even
recommend it if it was final... :D
I would talk him out of giving his doctor some unstable early Version :)

But at least i could tell him to ask his doctor which programm he uses
so that there will be a good export filter in ggc for that too. I guess
he'll have some buisness version of some windows software or something
like that.

regards

Sven

Re: [ggc-development] ascii import filter for old data?

[rumbi <ru...@us...>]

Am Sonntag 13 Dezember 2009 schrieb Sven Romeike:
> Am Sonntag, den 13.12.2009, 16:56 +0100 schrieb rumbi:
> > Am Sonntag 13 Dezember 2009 schrieb Sven Romeike:
> > > I'm a computer science student from germany
> >
> > We have CS courses? I was only aware of Informatik and
> > Softwaretechnik and some hybrids with other subject areas.
> 
> Angewandte Informatik (FH), I just thought "computer science" was
>  the correct english term :)

"Computer science" ist mir zu generell - unsere Bezeichnungen sind 
besser...
That said, "applied informatics" seems like a better translation to 
me. ;-)

<snip>
> The
> Programm is at least 10 years old and isn't supported by the
> company anymore so anyway i want to replace it.

That seems like a pretty good reason to me.

<snip>
> He tried it and likes it i guess. He especially likes the HbA1c
> value which is shown in GCC because for that he needed to ask the
> doctor because he didn't know how to get that value with his old
> software.

The HbA1c is more of a guesstimate and you shouldn't rely on it. 
Depending on how many readings are available and how frequently and 
when they are taken, this value may deviate greatly from the lab 
measurements. IOW, he should still see his doctor about this!

> He doesn't have any "special" data. He just archives his mg/dl
>  values with date and time.
> The ASCII File which DIABASS can export is just a filename.asc
>  with data in the following form:
> 
> Action  Date		Time	Value   Event   Comment
> 0       yyyy/mm/dd      hh:mm   vvv     0
> 0       yyyy/mm/dd      hh:mm   vvv     0
> and so on

What does the "Action" field mean?
It looks like your basic CSV with tabs instead of commas. Should be 
doable.

> Another thing my father wants is the diagramm stuff you are
>  currently realizing with jfreechart i guess. "View Course"
>  doesn't seem to work. Is this not implemented yet or is it a bug?
>  Because i get no "not implemented yet" message when i try to draw
>  something and it doesn't show up some values.

I'm slightly out of the loop here, as I've been concentrating on my 
studies for over a year now. I used to be responsible for replacing 
our buggy and crude diagrams with JFreeChart replacements, but 
somebody else took over from me. You should ask Andy (SF user 
"andyrozman") for details.

<snip>
> Yeah, but there isn't any other opensource software at least not
>  on linux or OSX that supports so many glucose meters.
> 
> Do you have some developer documentation so that i can see where
>  to put the import stuff or if somesthing like that has allready
>  been done? Maybe it can be done as an import/export plugin or
>  something.

I hope Andy will be along to answer this. I don't know anything about 
our plugin architecture, I'm afraid.

If you want to contribute or simply have a look at it, I suggest 
using eclipse (not the shittish version Karmic provides) with the 
subclipse plugin and checking the individual sub-projects out using 
subversion. You should use the project names suggested by eclipse, as 
the project dependencies depend on them.
The documentation is in the main subproject, if this hasn't changed 
too much. (<http://ggc.svn.sourceforge.net/viewvc/ggc/trunk/ggc/doc/> 
especially the How_Can_I_Help.txt file.)

> My father said the gcc software could even be interesting for his
> diabetes doctor.

I personally wouldn't want to tell my doctor about it until it has 
reached a somewhat higher level of stability. Non-IT people have a 
habit of judging a program by their first impression, even if it 
isn't nearly finished.

Also, by using GGC, he'll effectively be a beta tester. You should be 
aware of that.

  --rumbi

Re: [ggc-development] ascii import filter for old data?

[Sven R. <rom...@go...>]

Am Sonntag, den 13.12.2009, 16:56 +0100 schrieb rumbi:
> Am Sonntag 13 Dezember 2009 schrieb Sven Romeike:
> > I'm a computer science student from germany
> 
> We have CS courses? I was only aware of Informatik and 
> Softwaretechnik and some hybrids with other subject areas.

Angewandte Informatik (FH), I just thought "computer science" was the
correct english term :)


> > who wants to help this
> > project because my father has diabetes and the old software he has
> >  is the only thing that keeps him from using linux as primary
> >  operating system.
> 
> Have you tried using wine? Or perhaps a VM? (Not wanting to put you 
> off using GGC, but this might offer a more immediate workaround.)

I allready tried that. The bad thing is that the menubar of diabass4
shows some weird ascii codes instead of letters. The Programm is at
least 10 years old and isn't supported by the company anymore so anyway
i want to replace it.

> > currently he uses "Diabass4" from mediaspects. The programm uses
> >  some kind of Microsoft Jet Database stuff and i don't know how i
> >  can get the data out of there. The good thing is that the
> >  software also can export to a simple ascii file. So an import to
> >  GGC shouldn't be that hard to realise in Java i hope :)
> > 
> > Do you have some data import filters allready planned or how can i
> >  help so that data import from my fathers old files will be
> >  possible?
> 
> Your first question shouldn't be how to transfer the data, it should 
> be whether GGC meets the demands your father has. I'd suggest you 
> either try to find out by asking your father and trying out GGC for 
> yourself or by convincing him to give GGC a try (preferably in 
> parallel with his old DIABASS).
> If that works out, writing an import filter for pretty much any well-
> defined format shouldn't be much of a problem. You'd obviously have 
> to find out whether GGC has an equivalent for all the data DIABASS 
> exports.

He tried it and likes it i guess. He especially likes the HbA1c value
which is shown in GCC because for that he needed to ask the doctor
because he didn't know how to get that value with his old software.

He doesn't have any "special" data. He just archives his mg/dl values
with date and time.
The ASCII File which DIABASS can export is just a filename.asc with data
in the following form:

Action  Date		Time	Value   Event   Comment
0       yyyy/mm/dd      hh:mm   vvv     0  
0       yyyy/mm/dd      hh:mm   vvv     0 
and so on

Another thing my father wants is the diagramm stuff you are currently
realizing with jfreechart i guess. "View Course" doesn't seem to work.
Is this not implemented yet or is it a bug? Because i get no "not
implemented yet" message when i try to draw something and it doesn't
show up some values.

> > If you need some Testers here is the Hardware/Software we got:
> > 
> > Laptop:
> > Asus A3823GLH
> > 
> > running DualBoot
> > 	Ubuntu 9.10 Karmic Koala 32Bit
> > 	Windows XP 32bit with the old Data.
> > 
> > Java Version is the Sun Java 1.6 from the Ubuntu Package
> 
> I have a Kubuntu Karmic, so if you need any help with your setup, I 
> might be able to assist...
> 
> > The glucose meter we have are:
> > 	Lifescan One Touch Ultra which i can use for testing stuff
> > 	Lifescan One Touch Ultra Easy
> > 	Both via USB to Serial Cable
> > 
> > Currently we are running the Version 0.4 with Updates and reading
> >  from the glucose meters works perfectly. The thing we'd need
> >  would be some kind of Ascii import to get the old data to GCC.
> > 
> > I'm can code Java but have not so much experience with details so
> >  I'd like to learn from you and help the project to become THE
> >  standard opensource diabetes management software.
> 
> IMHO, that would be terrible. Competition keeps the brain juices 
> flowing and some variety is never bad... ;-)

Yeah, but there isn't any other opensource software at least not on
linux or OSX that supports so many glucose meters.

Do you have some developer documentation so that i can see where to put
the import stuff or if somesthing like that has allready been done?
Maybe it can be done as an import/export plugin or something.

My father said the gcc software could even be interesting for his
diabetes doctor.
 
best regards 

Sven Romeike

Re: [ggc-development] ascii import filter for old data?

[rumbi <ru...@us...>]

Am Sonntag 13 Dezember 2009 schrieb Sven Romeike:
> I'm a computer science student from germany

We have CS courses? I was only aware of Informatik and 
Softwaretechnik and some hybrids with other subject areas.

> who wants to help this
> project because my father has diabetes and the old software he has
>  is the only thing that keeps him from using linux as primary
>  operating system.

Have you tried using wine? Or perhaps a VM? (Not wanting to put you 
off using GGC, but this might offer a more immediate workaround.)

> currently he uses "Diabass4" from mediaspects. The programm uses
>  some kind of Microsoft Jet Database stuff and i don't know how i
>  can get the data out of there. The good thing is that the
>  software also can export to a simple ascii file. So an import to
>  GGC shouldn't be that hard to realise in Java i hope :)
> 
> Do you have some data import filters allready planned or how can i
>  help so that data import from my fathers old files will be
>  possible?

Your first question shouldn't be how to transfer the data, it should 
be whether GGC meets the demands your father has. I'd suggest you 
either try to find out by asking your father and trying out GGC for 
yourself or by convincing him to give GGC a try (preferably in 
parallel with his old DIABASS).
If that works out, writing an import filter for pretty much any well-
defined format shouldn't be much of a problem. You'd obviously have 
to find out whether GGC has an equivalent for all the data DIABASS 
exports.

> If you need some Testers here is the Hardware/Software we got:
> 
> Laptop:
> Asus A3823GLH
> 
> running DualBoot
> 	Ubuntu 9.10 Karmic Koala 32Bit
> 	Windows XP 32bit with the old Data.
> 
> Java Version is the Sun Java 1.6 from the Ubuntu Package

I have a Kubuntu Karmic, so if you need any help with your setup, I 
might be able to assist...

> The glucose meter we have are:
> 	Lifescan One Touch Ultra which i can use for testing stuff
> 	Lifescan One Touch Ultra Easy
> 	Both via USB to Serial Cable
> 
> Currently we are running the Version 0.4 with Updates and reading
>  from the glucose meters works perfectly. The thing we'd need
>  would be some kind of Ascii import to get the old data to GCC.
> 
> I'm can code Java but have not so much experience with details so
>  I'd like to learn from you and help the project to become THE
>  standard opensource diabetes management software.

IMHO, that would be terrible. Competition keeps the brain juices 
flowing and some variety is never bad... ;-)

  --rumbi

[ggc-development] ascii import filter for old data?

[Sven R. <rom...@go...>]

Hi,

I'm a computer science student from germany who wants to help this
project because my father has diabetes and the old software he has is
the only thing that keeps him from using linux as primary operating
system.

currently he uses "Diabass4" from mediaspects. The programm uses some
kind of Microsoft Jet Database stuff and i don't know how i can get the
data out of there. The good thing is that the software also can export
to a simple ascii file. So an import to GGC shouldn't be that hard to
realise in Java i hope :)

Do you have some data import filters allready planned or how can i help
so that data import from my fathers old files will be possible?

If you need some Testers here is the Hardware/Software we got:

Laptop:
Asus A3823GLH

running DualBoot 
	Ubuntu 9.10 Karmic Koala 32Bit 
	Windows XP 32bit with the old Data. 

Java Version is the Sun Java 1.6 from the Ubuntu Package

The glucose meter we have are:
	Lifescan One Touch Ultra which i can use for testing stuff
	Lifescan One Touch Ultra Easy
	Both via USB to Serial Cable

Currently we are running the Version 0.4 with Updates and reading from
the glucose meters works perfectly. The thing we'd need would be some
kind of Ascii import to get the old data to GCC.

I'm can code Java but have not so much experience with details so I'd
like to learn from you and help the project to become THE standard
opensource diabetes management software.

best regards Sven Romeike

[ggc-development] slovak translation

[Pavol C. <pav...@gm...>]

hello devs,

i would like to help and add slovak translation to your software. is
someone already working on it? will start translating and let you know
later.

also i'm using glucosurfer.org to keep track of some data as it allows
me to update it online (anywhere - using a phone), how difficult would
that be to either submit data from ggc to this online tool and then
get the data of the site.

i also mailed abbott for a pc cable for freestyle mini and will try to
create logs for you once i get it.

thank you in advance and keep up the good work

pavol cupka

[ggc-development] new mailing list: ggc-translation

[Reinhold R. <rum...@st...>]

Hi everybody!

I just noticed all those "I want to translate" posts in the SF forum 
and thought that maybe a mailing list wouldn't be a bad idea. The 
idea is that I might help some of those willing to translate, 
however I just don't look into the forums too often (approx. twice a 
year).

  --reini

PS: This probably isn't quite the right place to post this, but then 
we have no ggc-admin list to post this to...

[ggc-development] Time problems

[Reinhold R. <ru...@us...>]

Hi everybody!

I just wanted to let you know that I'm currently *really* busy 
studying and will likely not be able to contribute much or at all 
for the next 1.5 years.
Sorry.

  --rumbi

[ggc-development] libraries

[Reinhold R. <ru...@us...>]

Hi, everybody!

I'm currently having some 470+ compile errors, mainly because the necessary 
libraries are missing. Do you think you could keep the required libraries in 
ggc-support up-to-date? That'd make testing my modifications a *LOT* easier.
Thanks!

Also, how about using user libraries only where absolutely necessary? Using 
the "Add JARs" functionality should be easier for everybody, since changes to 
the required libraries would be propagated to other developers, and 
forgetting to upload libraries would be noticed by everybody (eclipse would 
notify the user about the missing libraries, which it can't when using user 
libraries). See the JFreeChart libs I added.
Obviously, this can't be done for platform-dependant libraries, but there 
won't be a lot of those, anyway.

  --reini

Re: [ggc-development] EZ Manager Data - Solution Full take 2

[Andy R. <an...@tr...>]

Nate Barish wrote:
> Good news!
>
> I was able to set the permissions on the tables, and even after adding 
> new data through EZM the permissions stayed.  What is odd is that I 
> was not able to set the permissions with my copy of access (2000), I 
> had to use the one at work (2003).  I think this may just be caused by 
> a bad install, my office 2000 disks were quite scratched, and though 
> the only thing install complained about was a held file it could not 
> read from the disk its likely there could be other problems.  Anyway i 
> will start getting the Animas data reading functionality into the app 
> now.  Should I do this on a branch?  I know your trying to do a 
> release soon so I dont want this functionality being only part done to 
> delay that any.  Also i need to be added to the project user list on 
> sourceforge so i can commit things in SVN my user name is: innominate227.
>
>
Hi Nate !

Glad to hear that... You can start to work when you wish... Please don't 
work in branch, because it will make problems. Pump Tool doesn't go out 
with this version... Be careful, when you check-in code must be 
compilable. So check-in everything... I have added you as developer... 
Good luck... Please let me know if you need any help... I will start 
adding support for Roche pump in august/september... I will add 
EventList and Alarm list before that time, so that you can start making 
Mappings for Animas, and add any additional Events, Alarms...

Andy