RE: [generguide-devel] Re: Cygwin Install

[John R. <joh...@bi...>]

Thanks Artur
I am a novice but I got the cygwin session running and I did use the cygwin command line.
You have answered one question.  cvs client is NOT installed.
I had already tried exactly as you suggested (cvs at the command line) and I got exactly the error 
you predicted.  That is what made me believe it is not installed.

I also believe I did a full CYGWIN install.  I will look at that again.
And I will see Cameron at work today.

Thanks
I'll stay in touch.

Cheers

John Raper
Technical Writer
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From:	Artur Hefczyc [SMTP:ko...@pl...]
Sent:	Friday, July 04, 2003 6:30 AM
To:	gen...@li...
Subject:	Re: [generguide-devel] Re: Cygwin Install

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> This installation completed OK, but I cannot tell if ssh and/or cvs client
> have installed or not. Cameron has advised me I need these to get started.
> How can I tell,  apart from looking at the installation elements selection
>The error message I get when I try to access the source files using the cvs
> command given to me by Cameron suggests to me (a unix novice) that the cvs
> client is not installed. The command is:
> cvs -d :ext:joh...@cv...:/cvsroot/generguide checkout
> generguide
1. CygWin is not a GUI application. It is rather a set of plenty of command
line tools.
2. You can not use them directly under Windows environment and even you can
not use them directly from windows command line.
3. You must start CygWin shell (command line window) to use cygwin tools.
4. After installation cygwin creates icon allowing to start command line
cygwin console with just clicking on this icon.
5. To check if any tool is installed you can just start cygwin shell and try
to execute tool by its name. For example to check if there is 'cvs' installed
try to execute 'cvs' command under cygwin shell.
[ ] $ cvs
If CVS is not installed error message should looks like:
"bash: cvs: command not found..."
If there is cvs installed there will be also error message but generated by
cvs itself that you have put not enough parameters.

You can check if 'ssh' is installed exactly in the same way.

I am sure both these tools were in default cygwin installation about year ago.
Maybe existing default is different but I think they are really basic tools
for cygwin. At the moment I can't check current default state because I always
used to install all cygwin packages.

Anyway, if you still want to use cygwin for your development I can help you
but I need to know operating system you use, and detailed (copied) error
messages. I was reading something about problems during cygwin installation,
but don't know any details.

I think we can setup your environment to efficient use step by step solving
all problems. First check if you have cvs and ssh installed on your system.

> Meanwhile, Cameron has suggested two morecvs clients for me to try.
> Any ideas??
I suggest you to reconsider the CygWin use.
If you are installing it only to use cvs to access project repository, you
don't need CygWin indeed.
However cygwin has plenty of really useful tools, especially bash, sed and
grep which are often used in our scripts processing XML files. So even
if you start to use other - GUI cvs clients cygwin package is helpful
for other tasks.

WinCVS is definitely worth to try. I don't use it personaly however many of
my coworkers use it.
I don't know the second one suggested by Cameron, however I managed
project in my company year ago for project/component management system
for whole company use. One of task was research for the best cvs GUI client.
WinCVS was chosen as the best option.

Try to use it. If WinCVS documentation seems to you not sufficient or not
fully complete I can look for some guides collected in our company.
Or can ask friend in my job how to solve WinCVS related problems.

Artur
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Artur Hefczyc
Open Source Developer
http://generguide.sourceforge.net/
http://www.geotools.org/
http://wttools.sourceforge.net/
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