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From: Artur H. <ko...@pl...> - 2003-08-26 09:22:11
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> Thanks for sending this, and sorry I was late.
> You mentioned you wanted to discuss some details with me. I should be
> available most days this week:
> 05:45 - 07:30
> 19:45 - 21:30 Sydney time.
> I'll probably be logged onto IRC tonight if you are available. You might need
> to send me a few individual messages to beep me and get my attention.
> Maybe I should look into ICQ. I think it has a better beeping mechanism.
I am not sure if it is necessary to talk on-line, however I am available on ICQ
almost all the time. If only there are no problems with internet :-)
Anyway. I was wrong week ago that I have ready java solution for <xinclude>
documents. But hopefuly I have found a few ways to process XML files with
<xinclude> elements. I think it is almost enough to create alternative script
using only java tools for generating tagret format from source documentation files.
Almost, because, I think this java script should not be only available for Unix like
systems (with bash, sed and so on...) but also on pure Windows systems.
So the problem is with this 'sed' command which is used in generpublish.sh script.
To have full compatibility with bash script it should be possible to perform similar
tasks with java only tools. I know how to do it inside ANT script but is is not
enough.
I understand that we should use maven, ant and so on but it should be also possible
to publish documents without them. So my plan is as follows:
1. During this week have ready to work maven-sdocbook-plugin, because this is
very important for geotools project. I think that it is necessary to work on this
because current maintainer is busy, and even if he find time to correct plugin I am
sure he will not add support for <xinclude> elements (modular documentation).
It is not implemented at all at the moment.
2. If you don't know of any java-regex command line tool, I will find something like that
and create generpublish.(bat | sh) scripts using only java tools.
As I remember there is http://jakarta.apache.org/regexp/index.html project and I
expect it should do what we need.
Do you agree with above plan? Or do you have other suggestions?
Finaly I think we will find a way to use normal entities in XML documents instead of
commented versions so XML processing will become simpler.
Artur
--
Artur Hefczyc
Open Source Developer
http://generguide.sourceforge.net/
http://www.geotools.org/
http://wttools.sourceforge.net/
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From: Artur H. <ko...@pl...> - 2003-08-19 06:42:49
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> On Monday 18 Aug 2003 10:00 am, Artur Hefczyc wrote: > > 3. I don't understand why unique ids are causing problems? > > a) They are "relative" ids > > I remember why we need unique ids. The ids are used in the section tags: > > <section id="introduction">... > > These id parameters are then used in the html output for internal bookmark > tags and referenced from the table of contents at the top. Eg: > > http:://geotools.org/gt2docs/developersguide.html#introduction > > If we have two sections in the resultant documentation with an id > tag=introduction then we are going to have problems. Yes, you are right, therefore I suggested to create ids values based on filename and subject of problem section describe. For example: 'emacsandxmlintro' 'emacsandjalopyintro' Artur -- Artur Hefczyc Open Source Developer http://generguide.sourceforge.net/ http://www.geotools.org/ http://wttools.sourceforge.net/ |
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From: Cameron S. <ca...@sh...> - 2003-08-18 22:24:16
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On Monday 18 Aug 2003 10:00 am, Artur Hefczyc wrote: > 3. I don't understand why unique ids are causing problems? > a) They are "relative" ids I remember why we need unique ids. The ids are used in the section tags: <section id="introduction">... These id parameters are then used in the html output for internal bookmark tags and referenced from the table of contents at the top. Eg: http:://geotools.org/gt2docs/developersguide.html#introduction If we have two sections in the resultant documentation with an id tag=introduction then we are going to have problems. -- Cameron Shorter http://cameron.shorter.net Open Source Developer http://generguide.sourceforge.net http://mapbuilder.sourceforge.net http://geotools.org Senior Software Engineer http://www.adi-limited.com |
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From: Cameron S. <ca...@sh...> - 2003-08-18 11:33:05
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On Monday 18 Aug 2003 10:00 am, Artur Hefczyc wrote: > Sorry for the delay. I have visitors at home so I was not able to > work on this during the weekend. No problem. > > 1. Comments at the end of XML files can be removed if necessary. OK, done. > > 2. I have read configuration requirements and this is what I was > thinking about month ago, when we discussed about project > customization with entities or XML with it's DTD. It seems to me that > I found a few more requirements but I need some time to bring them > back to my mind. Yes, I've been trying to capture and flesh out your ideas. Happy to hear any extra throughts you may have. > > 3. I don't understand why unique ids are causing problems? > a) They are "relative" ids Now that you mention it, I think you are right. My initial problem is that the generpublish.sh script copies all xml files into a temp directory (to extract <!--&entity;--> comments). If we have files of the same name coming from different namespaces then they will overwrite each other in the tmp directory. However we should be able to solve that by using &entity; tags properly. > > 4. Great to see that you started to work in configuration schema. I tried > to work on this before my leave, however there was not enough time for > that. Have you sample XML configuration file? I mean it is easier to > understand schema or DTD if we have sample XML file containing all possible > elements. I've started a full configuration at generguide/resources/generconfig.xml It is not as complete as the xsd yet, I will need to add some content to it. Actually, I probaby should create a sample config.xml for the design docs. > > 5. I have exchanged e-mails with sdocbook-plugin maintainer for maven. > He send me corrected version of plugin for maven B10. I haven't time > to check it yet, however I try to do it before our IRC meeting. > He is abroad and couldn't update SF repository and public this release > but sent it to me as e-mail attachment, I can forward it to you if you > like but it is about 0.5MB weigh. Good work. It is probably best use of our time if only one of us focuses on maven and sdocbook. Also I fully trust your judgement, so unless you get stuck or run out of time, I'll wait to hear your assessment. -- Cameron Shorter http://cameron.shorter.net Open Source Developer http://generguide.sourceforge.net http://mapbuilder.sourceforge.net http://geotools.org Senior Software Engineer http://www.adi-limited.com |
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From: Artur H. <ko...@pl...> - 2003-08-18 08:57:42
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hi,
Sorry for the delay. I have visitors at home so I was not able to
work on this during the weekend.
1. Comments at the end of XML files can be removed if necessary.
2. I have read configuration requirements and this is what I was
thinking about month ago, when we discussed about project
customization with entities or XML with it's DTD. It seems to me that
I found a few more requirements but I need some time to bring them
back to my mind.
3. I don't understand why unique ids are causing problems?
a) They are "relative" ids
4. Great to see that you started to work in configuration schema. I tried to
work on this before my leave, however there was not enough time for that.
Have you sample XML configuration file? I mean it is easier to understand
schema or DTD if we have sample XML file containing all possible elements.
5. I have exchanged e-mails with sdocbook-plugin maintainer for maven.
He send me corrected version of plugin for maven B10. I haven't time
to check it yet, however I try to do it before our IRC meeting.
He is abroad and couldn't update SF repository and public this release
but sent it to me as e-mail attachment, I can forward it to you if you like
but it is about 0.5MB weigh.
> I've added some requirements for a configuration file which you can see at:
> http://generguide.sourceforge.net/requirements.html . Search for the
> "Configuration" heading.
> Of note, I'm suggesting that guide sections can be stored anywhere on the web,
> which is going to cause problems with creating unique ids.
>
> Artur, I'd be keen to hear feedback from you on these ideas.
>
> I've started a schema for the generguide configuration guide in
> generguide/xsd/generconfig.xsd .
Artur
--
Artur Hefczyc
Open Source Developer
http://generguide.sourceforge.net/
http://www.geotools.org/
http://wttools.sourceforge.net/
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From: Cameron S. <ca...@sh...> - 2003-08-17 21:27:47
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I've added some requirements for a configuration file which you can see at: http://generguide.sourceforge.net/requirements.html . Search for the "Configuration" heading. Of note, I'm suggesting that guide sections can be stored anywhere on the web, which is going to cause problems with creating unique ids. Artur, I'd be keen to hear feedback from you on these ideas. I've started a schema for the generguide configuration guide in generguide/xsd/generconfig.xsd . -- Cameron Shorter http://cameron.shorter.net Open Source Developer http://generguide.sourceforge.net http://mapbuilder.sourceforge.net http://geotools.org Senior Software Engineer http://www.adi-limited.com |
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From: Cameron S. <ca...@sh...> - 2003-08-14 11:34:39
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-- Cameron Shorter http://cameron.shorter.net Open Source Developer http://generguide.sourceforge.net http://mapbuilder.sourceforge.net http://geotools.org Senior Software Engineer http://www.adi-limited.com |
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From: Cameron S. <ca...@sh...> - 2003-08-14 11:22:48
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Hi Artur, XXE version 2.4 has just been released. It supports modular documents using <xi:include> which is very nice. However it still seems to have teething problems. If the included section contains a comment at the end of it, then the modular editing doesn't work. This means that all your comments that look like: <!-- Keep this comment at the end of the file Local variables: mode: xml sgml-default-dtd-file: "sectionxincl.ced" sgml-ecat-files: nil End: --> are causing problems. Is it possible to move these comments within the: <section> <!-- comment here --> </section> tags? Or possibly even remove them? With regards to entities, these are still problematic. "Unmanaged enities are not supported, however managed entities are." I just need to find out what "managed entities" are. Have fun, Cameron. -- Cameron Shorter http://cameron.shorter.net Open Source Developer http://generguide.sourceforge.net http://mapbuilder.sourceforge.net http://geotools.org Senior Software Engineer http://www.adi-limited.com |
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From: Artur H. <ko...@pl...> - 2003-08-13 08:24:05
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> Artur, further thinking on this question. > 2b. Can we pass entity files with XSL? If not, we could store the entity file > as XML, then use XSL to build the entities.ent file. We can also use XSL to > build a entities data entry form. I don't know yet if XSL processor can automatically include entities during processing, however even if not, it is not still a problem because we can always run XML processor which validate our XML and also generate output XML with entities included. And then we can pass output XML with XSL processor. > 4. On the geotools IRC, people felt we need to improve maven support for > docbook before people are prepared to write their module "about/design" > sections in docbook. Currently people want to use maven. So I've > volunteered to see how hard it is to update maven to support docbook. I > assume it involves updating the currently inadequte XSL. > I'm not sure if this is something you may be interested in. Yes, I will take care about it. > -- > My sympathies go to you and your problems with crackers. I understand how > frustrating and time consuming it can be. Thanks, it could be even funny if not at the time of geotools IRC meeting. In one moment I could see about 15 source IP address flooding me with network packets. I felt as on battlefield ;-) Artur -- Artur Hefczyc Open Source Developer http://generguide.sourceforge.net/ http://www.geotools.org/ http://wttools.sourceforge.net/ |
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From: Cameron S. <ca...@sh...> - 2003-08-12 21:18:06
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I've updated the generguide/todo.txt list. Also added: "Convert all files to simple docbook version 1" -- Cameron Shorter http://cameron.shorter.net Open Source Developer http://generguide.sourceforge.net http://mapbuilder.sourceforge.net http://geotools.org Senior Software Engineer http://www.adi-limited.com |
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From: Cameron S. <ca...@sh...> - 2003-08-12 11:01:54
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On Monday 11 Aug 2003 9:50 pm, Cameron Shorter wrote: > On Monday 11 Aug 2003 10:12 am, Artur Hefczyc wrote: > > What about generic guide release? Have you any document describing what > > it will contain? > > I think I am available to work on this now so we can release first > > version. > > Sounds like you had a great holiday. > I'll think a bit more about what we need to do to get generguide published. > Off the top of my head: > 1. Provide a form for building a generguide config file and entity file. > I've already started on this. Have a look at stylesheets in generguide/xsl > When you run bin/generpublish.sh you will get target/generconfigform.html > as well as the guide. Still needs more work. > 2. Do you know whether we can parse the entity file with XSL, or do we need > to use another technology? > I'm thinking the process is: > entity.xml ---xsl--> html form ---javascipt--> entity.xml > You might want to work on this. > 3. We probably should rename the ids so they have the xml structure in > their name (as you suggested a while back). Artur, further thinking on this question. 2b. Can we pass entity files with XSL? If not, we could store the entity file as XML, then use XSL to build the entities.ent file. We can also use XSL to build a entities data entry form. 4. On the geotools IRC, people felt we need to improve maven support for docbook before people are prepared to write their module "about/design" sections in docbook. Currently people want to use maven. So I've volunteered to see how hard it is to update maven to support docbook. I assume it involves updating the currently inadequte XSL. I'm not sure if this is something you may be interested in. -- My sympathies go to you and your problems with crackers. I understand how frustrating and time consuming it can be. -- Cameron Shorter http://cameron.shorter.net Open Source Developer http://generguide.sourceforge.net http://mapbuilder.sourceforge.net http://geotools.org Senior Software Engineer http://www.adi-limited.com |
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From: Artur H. <ko...@pl...> - 2003-08-06 11:59:03
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Hi, I am back from my leave, well rested and hungry coding! Seriously, I am now trying to track what happened during last 3 weeks. Over 350 e-mails on geotools and 4 IRC meetings! However during this time if somebody has any issues for me I am now on-line. Artur -- Artur Hefczyc Open Source Developer http://generguide.sourceforge.net/ http://www.geotools.org/ http://wttools.sourceforge.net/ |
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From: Cameron S. <ca...@sh...> - 2003-07-19 10:18:40
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On Thursday 17 Jul 2003 11:17 am, Artur Hefczyc wrote: > I am on my leave now in UK and I have very limited access > to computer and network. > So please choose any convenient time to you. > I think I will be available again about 30 July. Artur, It would be good if you were around when we release generguide as you have contributed a lot to it, and I value your feedback and ideas. So I will wait until you get back. Let me know when you are back online, and have a good holiday. -- Cameron Shorter http://cameron.shorter.net Open Source Developer http://generguide.sourceforge.net http://mapbuilder.sourceforge.net http://geotools.org Senior Software Engineer http://www.adi-limited.com |
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From: Artur H. <ko...@pl...> - 2003-07-17 10:20:01
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> I think we are ready to release generguide to the world. > Do you have any issues you think we should address before we release? > Do you have suggestions on what lists/news sites we should > announce to? > Artur, would you like to suggest a time for the announce? Are > there times > when you are more or less available? I was thinking around > Sunday/Monday > would be good for me. I am on my leave now in UK and I have very limited access to computer and network. So please choose any convenient time to you. I think I will be available again about 30 July. Artur Hefczyc |
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From: Cameron S. <ca...@sh...> - 2003-07-15 21:48:45
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Artur and John, I think we are ready to release generguide to the world. Do you have any issues you think we should address before we release? Do you have suggestions on what lists/news sites we should announce to? Artur, would you like to suggest a time for the announce? Are there times when you are more or less available? I was thinking around Sunday/Monday would be good for me. -- Cameron Shorter http://cameron.shorter.net Open Source Developer http://generguide.sourceforge.net http://mapbuilder.sourceforge.net http://geotools.org Senior Software Engineer http://www.adi-limited.com |
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From: Cameron S. <ca...@sh...> - 2003-07-12 12:07:54
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Artur, Do you know if it is possible to put comments inside the entity.ent file? If so, how? -- Cameron Shorter http://cameron.shorter.net Open Source Developer http://generguide.sourceforge.net http://mapbuilder.sourceforge.net http://geotools.org Senior Software Engineer http://www.adi-limited.com |
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From: Artur H. <ko...@pl...> - 2003-07-09 12:30:09
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> I've cleaned all the docs except the emacs sections. Emacs section was corrected too. However to find what to correct in emacs file I used command: $ grep -ie "\(geotools\|gt2\)" *.xml I found a lot of occurrences of geotools and gt2 in existing documents. Following command counts occurrences: cat *.xml | grep -cie "\(geotools\|gt2\)" and displays that there are still 34. I don't know if you have left them intentionally or not but maybe this is helpful for you Artur -- Artur Hefczyc Open Source Developer http://generguide.sourceforge.net/ http://www.geotools.org/ http://wttools.sourceforge.net/ |
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From: Cameron S. <ca...@sh...> - 2003-07-09 11:44:33
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I've cleaned all the docs except the emacs sections. -- Cameron Shorter http://cameron.shorter.net Open Source Developer http://generguide.sourceforge.net http://mapbuilder.sourceforge.net http://geotools.org Senior Software Engineer http://www.adi-limited.com |
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From: Cameron S. <ca...@sh...> - 2003-07-08 08:48:50
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Hi, I'm getting pretty close to removing all the references to geotools from the guide. I plan to have it done this week. So my question is, what more do we need before going public? * I'd like to add a few features to the requirements that Artur has mentioned. Eg: An entity.ent builder. However I don't think we need to implement it before going public. * The users guide needs to be updated to explain how to write a section and what structure to use. * It would be good if we could get John using CVS, checking out code and correcting things. What else? Secondly, What channels should we use to publicise the project? -- Cameron Shorter http://cameron.shorter.net Open Source Developer http://generguide.sourceforge.net http://mapbuilder.sourceforge.net http://geotools.org Senior Software Engineer http://www.adi-limited.com |
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From: Artur H. <ko...@pl...> - 2003-07-06 07:29:41
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-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On Sunday 06 of July 2003 09:54, Cameron Shorter wrote: > Artur, > Do you know if it is possible to put comments inside the entity.ent file? > Is so, how? Yes, entity definition file DTD file format, so DTD style comments are acceptable: <!-- This is commented text --> Yes, they are also XML, SGML comments style. I will add this info to entity description section. > PS, I'm working through the developers guide from front to back removing > reference to geotools and introducing entities as I go. I'm currently up > to the maven section. Ok, I was thinking about creating 'sed' script to do it automaticly, however my family is now with me so I don't have that much time now. Artur - -- Artur Hefczyc Open Source Developer http://generguide.sourceforge.net/ http://www.geotools.org/ http://wttools.sourceforge.net/ -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.2 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE/B8/Y0/6x1bjSKPkRAiJAAJwMek+Bl7zUnDEo07j7byABZAs5EQCfaT8H asjxotCz2JiVqS0xCc6A6cA= =llsr -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- |
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From: Cameron S. <ca...@sh...> - 2003-07-04 20:14:57
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On Friday 04 Jul 2003 10:26 am, Artur Hefczyc wrote: > Hm, I don't know what they really mean when they are talking > about XInclude support. This concern comes from that it is possible > even at the moment to use XInclude with xxe standard edition. > I tried to do it few weeks ago and with small effort for configuration > it works in acceptable way. Yes, I still have the email. I suspect that the standard edition will work in a similar way to that email without needing to configure XXE or add extra entities to the source doc. This will make it easier to recommend to new users, and possibly even convince old users to stop using emacs. :P > In another approach maybe we could ask xmlmind for some kind > of sponsorship I mean license to use xxe professional version for > our Open Source project development. Yes maybe. Lets see what functionality XXE 2.4 gives us and then decide. It should be released by mid August, and I don't expect to have attracted too many users before then. -- Cameron Shorter http://cameron.shorter.net Open Source Developer http://generguide.sourceforge.net http://mapbuilder.sourceforge.net http://geotools.org Senior Software Engineer http://www.adi-limited.com |
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From: Artur H. <ko...@pl...> - 2003-07-04 09:26:58
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Hm, I don't know what they really mean when they are talking about XInclude support. This concern comes from that it is possible even at the moment to use XInclude with xxe standard edition. I tried to do it few weeks ago and with small effort for configuration it works in acceptable way. I have sent already to you simple instructions how to setup xxe for xinclude use. If you lost this e-mail I can look for it. Maybe not perfect and very comfortable but I think it is enough for our needs. In another approach maybe we could ask xmlmind for some kind of sponsorship I mean license to use xxe professional version for our Open Source project development. Artur -- Artur Hefczyc Open Source Developer http://generguide.sourceforge.net/ http://www.geotools.org/ http://wttools.sourceforge.net/ |
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From: Cameron S. <ca...@sh...> - 2003-07-04 09:11:38
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-- Cameron Shorter http://cameron.shorter.net Open Source Developer http://generguide.sourceforge.net http://mapbuilder.sourceforge.net http://geotools.org Senior Software Engineer http://www.adi-limited.com |
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From: John R. <joh...@bi...> - 2003-07-03 21:32:34
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Thanks Artur I am a novice but I got the cygwin session running and I did use the cygwin command line. You have answered one question. cvs client is NOT installed. I had already tried exactly as you suggested (cvs at the command line) and I got exactly the error you predicted. That is what made me believe it is not installed. I also believe I did a full CYGWIN install. I will look at that again. And I will see Cameron at work today. Thanks I'll stay in touch. Cheers John Raper Technical Writer JAR Documentation and Training P/L 9807 6224 0411 863 882 Web: www.lasotell.com.au -----Original Message----- From: Artur Hefczyc [SMTP:ko...@pl...] Sent: Friday, July 04, 2003 6:30 AM To: gen...@li... Subject: Re: [generguide-devel] Re: Cygwin Install -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 > This installation completed OK, but I cannot tell if ssh and/or cvs client > have installed or not. Cameron has advised me I need these to get started. > How can I tell, apart from looking at the installation elements selection >The error message I get when I try to access the source files using the cvs > command given to me by Cameron suggests to me (a unix novice) that the cvs > client is not installed. The command is: > cvs -d :ext:joh...@cv...:/cvsroot/generguide checkout > generguide 1. CygWin is not a GUI application. It is rather a set of plenty of command line tools. 2. You can not use them directly under Windows environment and even you can not use them directly from windows command line. 3. You must start CygWin shell (command line window) to use cygwin tools. 4. After installation cygwin creates icon allowing to start command line cygwin console with just clicking on this icon. 5. To check if any tool is installed you can just start cygwin shell and try to execute tool by its name. For example to check if there is 'cvs' installed try to execute 'cvs' command under cygwin shell. [ ] $ cvs If CVS is not installed error message should looks like: "bash: cvs: command not found..." If there is cvs installed there will be also error message but generated by cvs itself that you have put not enough parameters. You can check if 'ssh' is installed exactly in the same way. I am sure both these tools were in default cygwin installation about year ago. Maybe existing default is different but I think they are really basic tools for cygwin. At the moment I can't check current default state because I always used to install all cygwin packages. Anyway, if you still want to use cygwin for your development I can help you but I need to know operating system you use, and detailed (copied) error messages. I was reading something about problems during cygwin installation, but don't know any details. I think we can setup your environment to efficient use step by step solving all problems. First check if you have cvs and ssh installed on your system. > Meanwhile, Cameron has suggested two morecvs clients for me to try. > Any ideas?? I suggest you to reconsider the CygWin use. If you are installing it only to use cvs to access project repository, you don't need CygWin indeed. However cygwin has plenty of really useful tools, especially bash, sed and grep which are often used in our scripts processing XML files. So even if you start to use other - GUI cvs clients cygwin package is helpful for other tasks. WinCVS is definitely worth to try. I don't use it personaly however many of my coworkers use it. I don't know the second one suggested by Cameron, however I managed project in my company year ago for project/component management system for whole company use. One of task was research for the best cvs GUI client. WinCVS was chosen as the best option. Try to use it. If WinCVS documentation seems to you not sufficient or not fully complete I can look for some guides collected in our company. Or can ask friend in my job how to solve WinCVS related problems. Artur - -- Artur Hefczyc Open Source Developer http://generguide.sourceforge.net/ http://www.geotools.org/ http://wttools.sourceforge.net/ -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.2 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE/BJJc0/6x1bjSKPkRAiFZAKC3kNlClJRvhwI7N4bDruNNHtqG8QCfarLi FfYTGPtAeUKqHl15j4hci84= =ZbTA -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- ------------------------------------------------------- This SF.Net email sponsored by: Free pre-built ASP.NET sites including Data Reports, E-commerce, Portals, and Forums are available now. Download today and enter to win an XBOX or Visual Studio .NET. http://aspnet.click-url.com/go/psa00100006ave/direct;at.asp_061203_01/01 _______________________________________________ generguide-devel mailing list gen...@li... https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/generguide-devel |
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From: Artur H. <ko...@pl...> - 2003-07-03 20:30:33
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-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 > This installation completed OK, but I cannot tell if ssh and/or cvs client > have installed or not. Cameron has advised me I need these to get started. > How can I tell, apart from looking at the installation elements selection >The error message I get when I try to access the source files using the cvs > command given to me by Cameron suggests to me (a unix novice) that the cvs > client is not installed. The command is: > cvs -d :ext:joh...@cv...:/cvsroot/generguide checkout > generguide 1. CygWin is not a GUI application. It is rather a set of plenty of command line tools. 2. You can not use them directly under Windows environment and even you can not use them directly from windows command line. 3. You must start CygWin shell (command line window) to use cygwin tools. 4. After installation cygwin creates icon allowing to start command line cygwin console with just clicking on this icon. 5. To check if any tool is installed you can just start cygwin shell and try to execute tool by its name. For example to check if there is 'cvs' installed try to execute 'cvs' command under cygwin shell. [ ] $ cvs If CVS is not installed error message should looks like: "bash: cvs: command not found..." If there is cvs installed there will be also error message but generated by cvs itself that you have put not enough parameters. You can check if 'ssh' is installed exactly in the same way. I am sure both these tools were in default cygwin installation about year ago. Maybe existing default is different but I think they are really basic tools for cygwin. At the moment I can't check current default state because I always used to install all cygwin packages. Anyway, if you still want to use cygwin for your development I can help you but I need to know operating system you use, and detailed (copied) error messages. I was reading something about problems during cygwin installation, but don't know any details. I think we can setup your environment to efficient use step by step solving all problems. First check if you have cvs and ssh installed on your system. > Meanwhile, Cameron has suggested two morecvs clients for me to try. > Any ideas?? I suggest you to reconsider the CygWin use. If you are installing it only to use cvs to access project repository, you don't need CygWin indeed. However cygwin has plenty of really useful tools, especially bash, sed and grep which are often used in our scripts processing XML files. So even if you start to use other - GUI cvs clients cygwin package is helpful for other tasks. WinCVS is definitely worth to try. I don't use it personaly however many of my coworkers use it. I don't know the second one suggested by Cameron, however I managed project in my company year ago for project/component management system for whole company use. One of task was research for the best cvs GUI client. WinCVS was chosen as the best option. Try to use it. If WinCVS documentation seems to you not sufficient or not fully complete I can look for some guides collected in our company. Or can ask friend in my job how to solve WinCVS related problems. Artur - -- Artur Hefczyc Open Source Developer http://generguide.sourceforge.net/ http://www.geotools.org/ http://wttools.sourceforge.net/ -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.2 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE/BJJc0/6x1bjSKPkRAiFZAKC3kNlClJRvhwI7N4bDruNNHtqG8QCfarLi FfYTGPtAeUKqHl15j4hci84= =ZbTA -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- |
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