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#11392 myelin sheath & Schwann cells

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pending-accepted
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2015-04-27
2014-12-09
No

From Sebastian K. This is causing problems with HPO inference, as we end up with the assumption that myelin is always in the PNS:

[Term]
id: GO:0043209
name: myelin sheath
namespace: cellular_component
def: "An electrically insulating fatty layer that surrounds the axons of many neurons. It is an outgrowth of glial cells: Schwann cells supply the myelin for peripheral neurons while oligodendrocytes supply it to those of the central nervous system." [GOC:jl, NIF_Subcellular:sao-593830697, Wikipedia:Myelin]
synonym: "astrocyte sheath" NARROW [NIF_Subcellular:nlx_subcell_20090204]
synonym: "oligodendrocyte myelin sheath" NARROW [NIF_Subcellular:sao1279474730]
synonym: "Schwann cell myelin sheath" NARROW []
xref: FMA:62983
xref: NIF_Subcellular:sao-593830697
xref: Wikipedia:Myelin
is_a: GO:0044464 ! cell part
***relationship: part_of CL:0000218 ! myelinating Schwann cell

Weaken to 'glial cell'? Introduce two subtypes (oligodend, Schwann)?

To complicate the issue further, some arthropods have 'myelin'; but I think the proposed weakening works for these too.

Discussion

  • Chris Mungall

    Chris Mungall - 2014-12-09

    Here is the explanation we get - I think it's the GO derived axioms that are at fault

     
  • Doug Howe

    Doug Howe - 2014-12-09

    The Schwanns and oligodendrocytes are referred to collectively as "myelinating glial cells" to distinguish them from other types of glia which are non-myelinating. 'Myelin sheath' should be a part of "myelinating glial cell".

    Doug

     
  • Chris Mungall

    Chris Mungall - 2014-12-09

    We have CL:0000328 ! myelin accumulating cell (undefined in CL, inherited from initial version of CL).

    This includes 'myelinating Schwann cell', but not oligodendrocyte.

    Anyway, I think this class is weird, and should be obsoleted with a consider to CL:new 'myelinating glial cells'

    For now, I think we should just generalize the GO axiom to 'glial cell'

    CL also makes a distinction between plain Schwann cell and 'myelinating Schwann cell'. Do we need the latter?

             is_a CL:0002573 ! Schwann cell [DEF: "A glial cell that ensheathes axons of neuron in the peripheral nervous system and are necessary for their maintainance and function."]
              is_a CL:0000218 ! myelinating Schwann cell ***  [DEF: "A neuroglial cell of the peripheral nervous system which forms the insulating myelin sheaths of peripheral axons."]
    
     
  • Paola Roncaglia

    Paola Roncaglia - 2014-12-11

    Weakened link: ‘myelin sheath’ part_of ‘glial cell’ rather than ‘myelinating Schwann cell’.
    Closing as I see that the other issues are reported in separate trackers.
    BTW I love the current parent of CL:0000328 ! myelin accumulating cell... 'stuff accumulating cell' :-)

    Thanks,
    Paola

     
  • Paola Roncaglia

    Paola Roncaglia - 2014-12-11
    • labels: --> Other term-related request, neurobiology
    • status: open --> closed-fixed
     
  • Doug Howe

    Doug Howe - 2014-12-12

    Just a quick comment in response to Chris' question above:

    "CL also makes a distinction between plain Schwann cell and 'myelinating Schwann cell'. Do we need the latter?"

    There are myelinating and non-myelinating Schwann cells and oligodendrocytes. They each derive from a common pool of precursor cells for their specific glial cell..ie Schwann cells derive from a Schwann cell precursor pool and oligodendrocytes from and oligodendrocyte precursor pool.

    So for CL, it makes sense to have

    Schwann cell
    ---[i] myelinating Schwann cell
    ---[i] non-myelinating Schwann cell

    Likewise for oligodendrocytes.

    Eventually we want
    CL: myelinating glial cell (or myelin forming glial cell)
    ---[P] GO: myelin sheath
    ---[i] CL: myelinating Schwann cell
    ---[i] CL: myelinating oligodendrocyte

     
  • Paola Roncaglia

    Paola Roncaglia - 2014-12-15

    OK, so setting this ontology ticket to pending, waiting for the CL changes to be done.
    Then I will add the link GO myelin sheath part_of CL myelinating glial cell (or myelin forming glial cell). Thanks

    Paola

     
  • Paola Roncaglia

    Paola Roncaglia - 2014-12-15
    • labels: Other term-related request, neurobiology --> Other term-related request, neurobiology, cell type
    • status: closed-fixed --> pending-accepted
     
  • Paola Roncaglia

    Paola Roncaglia - 2015-04-27

    Hi Chris and Doug,

    Just following up on this, wondering if the changes in CL have been completed. Otherwise, is there a CL ticket I may refer to?

    Thanks,

    Paola

     

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