RE: [Algorithms] Message signature in token ring

[Aaron N. <ani...@mi...>]

I think some of the crosstalk was due to the concurrent "MMOG Logon"
thread, from which the concept of rolling your own API emerged.


-----Original Message-----
From: Space Needle Exchange Program
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Sent: Thursday, April 17, 2003 1:35 PM
To: gda...@li...
Subject: Re: [Algorithms] Message signature in token ring

I started the thread and the whole point wasn't even about writing my
own
crypto lib at all. I was asking about the proper crypto tools/algorithms
to
use for a protocol I was attempting to design. I don't think anyone on
the
whole thread even ever suggested rolling their own lib. People just love
their APIWARS!@# I suppose. I mean, we managed to cover CryptAPI,
DirectPlay, AND DirectSound! I guess D3D must have had a by this round.

----- Original Message -----
From: "Chris Hecker" <ch...@d6...>
To: <gda...@li...>
Sent: Thursday, April 17, 2003 12:59 PM
Subject: Re: [Algorithms] Message signature in token ring


>
> Tony's original point was not to roll your own crypto.  That point is
> totally valid, and I agree with him in that you'd have to either be
insane,
> stupid, or a crypto expert to roll your own if you cared at all about
> security.  Some people may have preferences for OSS and some may have
> preferences for OS APIs.  That's not the important part of the point,
in
my
> opinion (and Tony's), although there is a discussion there to be had
> between open minded engineers that does not degenerate into name
calling
> and insinuation (which we obviously didn't have :).  He was not
bashing
> game programmers at all, at least by my reading of his mails.
>
> Trying to write your own crypto code by asking beginner questions on
this
> list is insane or stupid or both, unless you're just messing around to
> learn, and even then you should be reading one of the zillions of well
> written books and websites on the topic, not posting "how do I
implement a
> secure login procedure" here.
>
> Hopefully that point comes through all the silly noise.  I doubt
anybody
> reasonably experienced would disagree with it.
>
> Chris
>
>
>
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