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  • Boris Breuer

    Boris Breuer - 2017-11-15

    Hi folks,

    as a small promotion and as a contribution of the work done by the GCB community I wrote a first article for the full circle magazine https://fullcirclemagazine.org

    It will be online in issue 127 around the end of november I think. Hope you enjoy.

    A second part is work in progress and I hope to have it ready on time for the next issue.

    Cheers,

    Boris

     
    • Chris Roper

      Chris Roper - 2017-11-16

      Thanks Boris.
      That is great news.
      We definitely need to spread the word and drive up Linux usage.

      It is a pity there are no executables available for the Major Flavors of Linux.
      But I came across something called SNAP the other day that looks very interesting for cross platform distribution.

      From what I have read so far a single compile on Ubuntu built with SNAP will then run on any other version or Flavour of Linux that has a SNAP client installed. It looks like SNAP is a product of Conical so should be well supported going forwards.

      I used SNAP to install a media play on Linux Mind.
      I had already spent hours on it and received all kinds of cryptic dependency messages, despite following 3 different internet guides. Then I found the SNAP version and it installed in seconds, faster than the Windows version did and worked first time

      My hope is that one day the Linux gurus will make a GCBASIC build for SNAP, as building from source is beyond most of us Windows Prisoners.

      Cheers
      Chris

       
      • bed

        bed - 2017-11-16

        As lonng as one is frugal enough to use a native Linux IDE the pure Linux install of GCBASIC is really easy.
        I ommit the wine aproach as GCB@Syn is while copmpiling extreme slow, so it is no option.
        At least for me.

         
        • Chris Roper

          Chris Roper - 2017-11-16

          From what I can tell SNAP is nothing like WINE.

          It is not emulating a windows environment, it is an integral part of Linux and provides a common set of functions for all flavours. What back in the 90's would have been called a Thunking layer.
          It just maps Debian calls to Fedora for example. So each instance is running natively in that flavor of Linux.

          But I will leave it up to the Linux experts to correct me or explain it further.

          Cheers
          Chris

           

          Last edit: Chris Roper 2017-11-16
          • bed

            bed - 2017-11-16

            Yes, but the SNAP packet will not have GCB@syn included, won't it?

             
            • Chris Roper

              Chris Roper - 2017-11-16

              But that is the thing.

              If one of our Linux Boffins can compile a copy that links to SNAP then it becomes an executable distribution that will run on any flavor of Linux natively and it is only a single line command to install it. But I am not sure if the IDE source is included though. I pass that back to the community.

               
              • Chris Roper

                Chris Roper - 2017-11-16

                I just downloaded the Linux package and the Syn package is included, so a Linux build should look and feel like the windows build but as a native app not running in WINE.

                 
                • bed

                  bed - 2017-11-16

                  Ok, seems I have to play with it :-) Thanks for pointing me to.

                   
                  • Chris Roper

                    Chris Roper - 2017-11-16

                    My pleasure Bad,

                    If you do manage to get it working it will be another major boost for the community as was you excellent work on the web page.

                     
                    • Boris Breuer

                      Boris Breuer - 2017-11-16

                      I did not realise, that the IDE could be compiled on linux, too. Will have a look.

                      As a side note, to use geany as an ide for GCB without too much hassle is planned for the follow up article...

                       

                      Last edit: Boris Breuer 2017-11-16
                      • Anobium

                        Anobium - 2017-11-16

                        @Boris. Can I check. What version of the compiler are you going to write about? I recommend that you are using v0.98.01 or greater.

                         
                        • Boris Breuer

                          Boris Breuer - 2017-11-16

                          @Anobium: as I started I used the 0.97 but as I realised the 0.98 was actually released, I changed some bits to reflect that. At this point the IDE question was a (as I thought) windows only thing. But as I have some time for the second one, I surely can reflect this to show the progress the project is making.

                          As mentioned: for myself geany works good out of the box (or the repositories if you prefer) for the time being - but to use the native GCB@Syn would surely be a thing.

                          Offer: maybe it would be a good idea to let you sneak into part I and II so that we get things not only done but also done right? But I would like to limit the early access to not offend the guys behind the fullcirclemagazine...

                           

                          Last edit: Boris Breuer 2017-11-16
                          • Anobium

                            Anobium - 2017-11-16

                            I will review.

                            And, dont forget to mention the Online Help and the Demos!

                             
                            • Boris Breuer

                              Boris Breuer - 2017-11-16

                              @Anobium: Sent you the links in private.

                               
  • William Roth

    William Roth - 2017-11-16

    Thank Boris,

    I look forward to reading the article.

    William

     
    • bed

      bed - 2017-11-16

      me too, I did know nothing about this magazine!

       
  • Boris Breuer

    Boris Breuer - 2017-11-16

    For the first one, do not excpect too much - merely a short indtroduction to GCB on Linux, a installation note and a first hello world for electronics, e. g. a blinking LED :)

    And not to mention, I do this as a hobby and have yet very much to learn ;)

     

    Last edit: Boris Breuer 2017-11-16
    • Chris Roper

      Chris Roper - 2017-11-16

      Sounds good to me Boris, I for one am looking forwared to it.

       
  • Boris Breuer

    Boris Breuer - 2017-11-24

    Update: the issue is out https://fullcirclemagazine.org/2017/11/24/full-circle-magazine-127/
    Great Cow Basicmade itto the front page :)

     
    • Anobium

      Anobium - 2017-11-25

      Nice. Well done

       
  • bed

    bed - 2017-11-25

    I read it, too.
    As a Linux Junkie I can say it is going very good in detail, hopefully we earn some new users.

     
    • Chris Roper

      Chris Roper - 2017-11-25

      I am still busy re-installing my linux Mint, but once I finish I will try
      the setup that Boris published.
      Anything we can do to get Linux users is great.
      Any suggestions for an IDE or a good editor?
      Is Notepad++ available for Linux?

      Cheers
      Chris

       
      • Boris Breuer

        Boris Breuer - 2017-11-25

        And thank you all for your kind feedback.

         
      • bed

        bed - 2017-11-25

        Yes, try Geany, Somewhere in this Forum I posted the correct setup for compile and Flash

         
        • Chris Roper

          Chris Roper - 2017-11-25

          Thanks Guys,

          Geany it is then.

          My install of mint 18.3 mate is complete and all appears to be working well.
          With the help of Boris' article I will install GCBASIC in the morning then
          test it with Geany.

          Cheers
          Chris

           
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